I do not use any commercial deodorant...

I wipe down with alcohol twice a day... and apply a dab of tea tree oil...

I do not have a problem with odor...

However,

right after I abandoned the standard deodorants... I began to use Toms of Main deodorant.... and/or Arm & Hammer

I used these for a short time (appx. a year), then one day I'd run out without applying deodorant... it was a hot day and was unable to return home or purchase a rescue container.... I sweated that day and had no odor... before this I used deodorant because everyone else did... I never thought about whether or not I actually needed it...

I believe it has much to do with my diet... which heavily consists of fresh fruits,cooked vegetables... beans, occasional rice and small amounts of toasted home made bread... I eat one meal a day... I drink a pint of water daily... fast once a month... plus I dance, and hike...

when I'm dancing/hiking... I perspire a lot... so throughout my work week... I just don't do a lot of perspiring... and when I do... its manageable...


It sounds more complicated than it is... its my life and I am comfortable with it.... but I just explained it because I think it has much to do with my non reliance on commercial deodorants...
@folobatuyi: I have been using the crystal. I just don't like the sticky film that never comes off and enlarges my follicles. Also, I'm sensitive to chemicals, and the crystal has absolutely NO smell whatsoever. For the stick deo/antiperspirant, even the unscented variety has a smell to it.

But, this will be my first full summer in Houston, so round about August the tale will be told. 1

@Khalliqa: I never thought of using tea tree under my arms. That sounds like a good idea. I've only been using it on my scalp and locs. I typically mix it with some almond, rosemary, and sage.
I've been looking for a natural alternative to commercial deodorants. I've noticed that if I go more than two days without using commercial deodorants, I develop a rash under my arms, as if I'm going through withdrawal or something. EekFrown

I understand this to be my body's way of warning me that that stuff ain't right.
I only sweat in the most humid of conditions, and I used to use some natural deoderants, but they are somewhat unavailable in this country. I try to stick to things now that are more environmentally friendly.

You can eliminate body odour by simply changing your diet. Eating more fibrous / dark leafy vegetables, cutting down on meat products, and drinking plenty of water helps. For the really brave, try a spirulina or chorella product for a month.
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@folobatuyi: I have been using the crystal. I just don't like the sticky film that never comes off and enlarges my follicles. Also, I'm sensitive to chemicals, and the crystal has absolutely NO smell whatsoever. For the stick deo/antiperspirant, even the unscented variety has a smell to it.

But, this will be my first full summer in Houston, so round about August the tale will be told. 1

@Khalliqa: I never thought of using tea tree under my arms. That sounds like a good idea. I've only been using it on my scalp and locs. I typically mix it with some almond, rosemary, and sage.



My question to you, ATPWordPro, is this: do you use crystal deodorants to avoid the aluminum that is in commercial and what is your crystal deodorant made of? ..potassium alum or some other crystal salt?
Good Morning Folobatuyi:

Um, yes and no. 1

I've seen blurbs that have debunked the aluminum risk, but since my mother had breast cancer and I've already been biopsied for "calcifications", I figure that it doesn't hurt to use something else. Who knows when the next study will come out that says the first guy was right and we ARE giving ourselves cancer.

I'm using the crystal roll-on. Here are the ingredients: Purified Water, Mineral Salts, Potassium Alum, Celquat.

http://www.thecrystal.com/index.cfm

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Originally posted by ATPWordPro:
Good Morning Folobatuyi:

Um, yes and no. 1

I've seen blurbs that have debunked the aluminum risk, but since my mother had breast cancer and I've already been biopsied for "calcifications", I figure that it doesn't hurt to use something else. Who knows when the next study will come out that says the first guy was right and we ARE giving ourselves cancer.

I'm using the crystal roll-on. Here are the ingredients: Purified Water, Mineral Salts, Potassium Alum, Celquat.

http://www.thecrystal.com/index.cfm



You confirmed my suspicions. From my days of general inorganic chemistry, I remember that potassium alum is a double salt consisting of potassium sulfate and aluminum sulfate. My concern is that the crystal can release aluminum in form of ions in the skin like the conventional types. I could be overcalling it but it is hard for me to ignore the chemical makeup of potassium alum.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Chemistry-including-Biochemi...5/Potassium-Alum.htm
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Originally posted by folobatuyi:
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Originally posted by ATPWordPro:
Good Morning Folobatuyi:

Um, yes and no. 1

I've seen blurbs that have debunked the aluminum risk, but since my mother had breast cancer and I've already been biopsied for "calcifications", I figure that it doesn't hurt to use something else. Who knows when the next study will come out that says the first guy was right and we ARE giving ourselves cancer.

I'm using the crystal roll-on. Here are the ingredients: Purified Water, Mineral Salts, Potassium Alum, Celquat.

http://www.thecrystal.com/index.cfm


You confirmed my suspicions. From my days of general inorganic chemistry, I remember that potassium alum is a double salt consisting of potassium sulfate and aluminum sulfate. My concern is that the crystal can release aluminum in form of ions in the skin like the conventional types. I could be overcalling it but it is hard for me to ignore the chemical makeup of potassium alum.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Chemistry-including-Biochemi...5/Potassium-Alum.htm


Wow. I'm going to check out your link. Um, help a sista out who never really buckled down in science class. 1 Do I need to leave this stuff alone too?

Edit: Never mind. Your link explained all. In nice laymen's terms I might add.
Oh, Folobatuyi:

A related but sort of off question.

My sister has a friend who DOUCHES with alum. When her friend told her this, she called me and I immediately told her it was a BAD idea since I recall alum as being some substance that draws up your tissues.

Personally, I don't advocate douching at all, but have you EVER heard of such a thing? Supposedly this friend's family has been douching with alum for generations.
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Oh, Folobatuyi:

A related but sort of off question.

My sister has a friend who DOUCHES with alum. When her friend told her this, she called me and I immediately told her it was a BAD idea since I recall alum as being some substance that draws up your tissues.

Personally, I don't advocate douching at all, but have you EVER heard of such a thing? Supposedly this friend's family has been douching with alum for generations.


Yes, alum is a very good drying agent. We used it in our well water we collected in large 55 gallon drums while I was in Nigeria to help with the silt sediments. Once you put a piece of the crystal in, it would dissolve and cause all the silt to clump together and settle at the bottom.
fro Wow! I remember alum... it used to be the "thang" for some women [in my community] after childbirth...not directly after childbirth but was known to tighten up the loose "ends" for sexual purposes. One time, a friend of my mom's put some on her breasts because of its fullest of milk [and the pain associated with it]...big mistake! It not only caused her breasts to draw up, it also made the condition permanent. Life lessons huh?Smile Alum is an old remedy folks back in the day used to use....however, lately I haven't heard mention of women using it anymore to tighten up those "vagina muscles"...well.... until now! fro
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Originally posted by folobatuyi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ATPWordPro:
Good Morning Folobatuyi:

Um, yes and no. 1

I've seen blurbs that have debunked the aluminum risk, but since my mother had breast cancer and I've already been biopsied for "calcifications", I figure that it doesn't hurt to use something else. Who knows when the next study will come out that says the first guy was right and we ARE giving ourselves cancer.

I'm using the crystal roll-on. Here are the ingredients: Purified Water, Mineral Salts, Potassium Alum, Celquat.

http://www.thecrystal.com/index.cfm

{SNIP THE PIC}

You confirmed my suspicions. From my days of general inorganic chemistry, I remember that potassium alum is a double salt consisting of potassium sulfate and aluminum sulfate. My concern is that the crystal can release aluminum in form of ions in the skin like the conventional types. I could be overcalling it but it is hard for me to ignore the chemical makeup of potassium alum.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Chemistry-including-Biochemi...5/Potassium-Alum.htm

Hello Folobatuyi:

I'm done with the crystal and have moved on to try something else. I'm going with Khalliqa's idea of tea tree and lavender, but I'm lazy so I purchased it pre-made. I went with Desert Essence because I've used other stuff from them. Here's the info. I'm most suspicious of the cocamide dea. My dictionary says it shouldn't be combined with "nitrosating" agents. Pray tell, what is a nitrosating agent in plain language?

Thanks for your help.

Aluminum Free Tea Tree Oil Deo

^^ Here's another idea ...

If you do not perspire much... sew in, pin in or glue in underarm shields...


Some are disposable for special occasions... many are machine washable and they are inexpensive... Here is a store link for you to browse:

Kleinertsshields.com




Information on sewing message board as to how to make your own dress shields...


Dress shields combined with alcohol and a drop of tea tree oil... is extremely inexpensive.. and completely organic....

I like not having to replenish anything but a bottle of alcohol and 1 bottle of tea trea oil a year... Big Grin



But I support whatever works for you that keeps you safe, clean, healthy and happy!

Smile



Salaam...
Also, your sweat is odorless, it's the bacteria that feeds on your oils etc.. that causes odor...


you can also successfully use lemon juice, which has the added benefit of lightening dark areas...

if alcohol or lemon juice acid stings... make sure you dilute it a little or do not apply directly after shaving (shaving the pits before bed is a good idea)...


alternatively you can also use apple cider vinegar (you will not smell like a pickle, the smell dissipates quickly)

you can use baking soda.. add a bit of water to make a paste apply on a washcloth and dab lightly....



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