Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xADKtEHjixI

My video on the issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eNkAH4z5G4


My email to Bill O'Reilly:
Bill-O,

I am not too crazy about most of your views, but however I have to agree with you for once on the issue with that sign that the Atheist put up to the Christ Nativity scene in the Washington capital building. After all, if there was a sign next to that stating all Atheist practice Beastality and were all evil, how would they feel about that? If they were to have "Atheist Day", their own "Holy Day" and I decided to walk around wearing a shirt of Stalin holding a gun to a woman head while she was praying with the words "morally superior" on it, my wouldn't they be just offended.

However, if it's going to be fair, the sign should not state that "all religion is evil" and so forth. It could just state, "Peace to all". I mean since they do not care for Christmas which is a federal holiday, why don't they just work on Christmas day then? I mean to them, it's "so stupid", so it won't be sooo stupid to work on Christmas then, would it? Keith Olbermann in this situation is wrong, you have a point and I can not believe I am saying this.
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But it IS the celebration of the Winter Solstice... and literalist exclusivism, seperating the myth from the cycles of nature(external and internal) they are clearly a metaphor for(religion rather than spirituality) DOES enslave... Confused
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
But it IS the celebration of the Winter Solstice... and literalist exclusivism, seperating the myth from the cycles of nature(external and internal) they are clearly a metaphor for(religion rather than spirituality) DOES enslave... Confused


Who allows that to enslave them? People, and I can go all day about a lack of belief being forced on folks to, enslaving the mind. I won't because if some one is claiming to promote PEACE, the words should actually PROMOTE PEACE on that sign.
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
But it IS the celebration of the Winter Solstice... and literalist exclusivism, seperating the myth from the cycles of nature(external and internal) they are clearly a metaphor for(religion rather than spirituality) DOES enslave... Confused


Who allows that to enslave them?


When has slavery been 'allowed' by the enslaved? It's a state of being people are forced into...

Religion, not spirituallity, has been used as a tool of empire and social control for centuries...

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People, and I can go all day about a lack of belief being forced on folks to, enslaving the mind. I won't because if some one is claiming to promote PEACE, the words should actually PROMOTE PEACE on that sign.


Confused

The Chi Rho Cross (or Constantine's Cross) - a sigla, forming a warrior's cross



The labarum, as a monogram engraved on soldiers' shields, is a military emblem.

Familiar?
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
But it IS the celebration of the Winter Solstice... and literalist exclusivism, seperating the myth from the cycles of nature(external and internal) they are clearly a metaphor for(religion rather than spirituality) DOES enslave... Confused


Who allows that to enslave them?


When has slavery been 'allowed' by the enslaved? It's a state of being people are forced into...

Religion, not spirituallity, has been used as a tool of empire and social control for centuries...

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People, and I can go all day about a lack of belief being forced on folks to, enslaving the mind. I won't because if some one is claiming to promote PEACE, the words should actually PROMOTE PEACE on that sign.


Confused

The Chi Rho Cross (or Constantine's Cross) - a sigla, forming a warrior's cross



The labarum, as a monogram engraved on soldiers' shields, is a military emblem.

Familiar?


Constantine used that image on his men's shields because he saw the cross appear to him in the sky and heard a voice telling him to do so for it would grant him victory. That is the story behind how that came about. The cross is a symbol of the crucifixion of Jesus, not the Roman empire.

Enslaved? I am not understanding how one can allow themselves to be "enslaved", then if that is the case, we "enslave" ourselves with everything then.

It's just called following your belief in God, not the church.
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
But it IS the celebration of the Winter Solstice... and literalist exclusivism, seperating the myth from the cycles of nature(external and internal) they are clearly a metaphor for(religion rather than spirituality) DOES enslave... Confused


Who allows that to enslave them?


When has slavery been 'allowed' by the enslaved? It's a state of being people are forced into...

Religion, not spirituallity, has been used as a tool of empire and social control for centuries...

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People, and I can go all day about a lack of belief being forced on folks to, enslaving the mind. I won't because if some one is claiming to promote PEACE, the words should actually PROMOTE PEACE on that sign.


Confused

The Chi Rho Cross (or Constantine's Cross) - a sigla, forming a warrior's cross



The labarum, as a monogram engraved on soldiers' shields, is a military emblem.

Familiar?


Constantine used that image on his men's shields because he saw the cross appear to him in the sky and heard a voice telling him to do so for it would grant him victory. That is the story behind how that came about. The cross is a symbol of the crucifixion of Jesus, not the Roman empire.*

Enslaved? I am not understanding how one can allow themselves to be "enslaved", then if that is the case, we "enslave" ourselves with everything then.

It's just called following your belief in God, not the church.


*You may already know this, but isn't Constantine the Roman Empire who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire?
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Originally posted by Huey:
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
But it IS the celebration of the Winter Solstice... and literalist exclusivism, seperating the myth from the cycles of nature(external and internal) they are clearly a metaphor for(religion rather than spirituality) DOES enslave... Confused


Who allows that to enslave them?


When has slavery been 'allowed' by the enslaved? It's a state of being people are forced into...

Religion, not spirituallity, has been used as a tool of empire and social control for centuries...

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People, and I can go all day about a lack of belief being forced on folks to, enslaving the mind. I won't because if some one is claiming to promote PEACE, the words should actually PROMOTE PEACE on that sign.


Confused

The Chi Rho Cross (or Constantine's Cross) - a sigla, forming a warrior's cross



The labarum, as a monogram engraved on soldiers' shields, is a military emblem.

Familiar?


Constantine used that image on his men's shields because he saw the cross appear to him in the sky and heard a voice telling him to do so for it would grant him victory. That is the story behind how that came about. The cross is a symbol of the crucifixion of Jesus, not the Roman empire.*

Enslaved? I am not understanding how one can allow themselves to be "enslaved", then if that is the case, we "enslave" ourselves with everything then.

It's just called following your belief in God, not the church.


*You may already know this, but isn't Constantine the Roman Empire who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire?


He did do that, but only because of him winning the war against that other Roman. Yet Constantine would not stay a Christian (not that he really converted to the religion, but accepted the ideas and people) too long, he would revert back to his Pagan ways and boil his wife to death in a oil bath. Even before Christianity was made legal in Rome, the old Pagan ways were still keeping the empire control. But why allow Christianity if the old Pagan ways still controlled his people?
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But why allow Christianity if the old Pagan ways still controlled his people?


But why allow scientology if old xian ways "still controlled" american people?
People overuse "religion as a control mechanism" which is simply the reguritation of various forms of "nietzchism".

A few points, religion has been used as a control mechanism, but it has also been used as a tool for liberation. The most dominant modern "control" philosophies have not been based upon religion, but communist atheism. Finally I still find it difficult to believe that individuals are so willing to deny "individaul culpability" in favor of a dominant oppressive philosophy. By that I mean that in all of these conversations we minimize individual choice in favor of forced group think in regard to faith.

Can you force faith? I don't think so. You can force behavior, and practice under threat, but belief is a self-determined choice.

Finally, in regard to Christmas, I really don't mind if people want to harshly criticize its practice in America because it should be. It is one more event countermanded by our harsh corporatist consumption based system which wants to exploit everything for increased shareholder value.
IMHO, this whole issue is such a waste of time, on both sides. People who get bent out of shape about this issue would be doing a tremendous service to this world if they'd devote that energy instead to some other cause. Think how many HIV transmissions we'd prevent if that movement could harness the passions these guys have for this bullcrap non-issue.

Atheists are allowed to thrive in this country; Christianity is allowed to thrive in this country. People in other parts of the world get strung up and burned alive over their religions, and knuckleheads here are crying "religious oppression" because there's a nativity scene outside City Hall, or because Wal-Mart sells "Holiday Trees" instead of Christmas trees. What an insult to Iraqi Christians, or Afghan Hindus, and what they've gone through. Get over it already.

Christmas, especially in this country, is more of a cultural holiday than a religious one anyway.
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Originally posted by Raptor:
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But why allow Christianity if the old Pagan ways still controlled his people?


But why allow scientology if old xian ways "still controlled" american people?


Why do we allow any religion, it's called a choice and that word, TOLERANCES!!! How does Christianity control people?
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Originally posted by Vox:
IMHO, this whole issue is such a waste of time, on both sides. People who get bent out of shape about this issue would be doing a tremendous service to this world if they'd devote that energy instead to some other cause. Think how many HIV transmissions we'd prevent if that movement could harness the passions these guys have for this bullcrap non-issue.

Atheists are allowed to thrive in this country; Christianity is allowed to thrive in this country. People in other parts of the world get strung up and burned alive over their religions, and knuckleheads here are crying "religious oppression" because there's a nativity scene outside City Hall, or because Wal-Mart sells "Holiday Trees" instead of Christmas trees. What an insult to Iraqi Christians, or Afghan Hindus, and what they've gone through. Get over it already.

Christmas, especially in this country, is more of a cultural holiday than a religious one anyway.


That does sound poetically nice and all, but do not claim to promote peace when it actually promotes intolerances. What is the Navity scene of Jesus doing to piss people off? Tell me that, and also, when you go around and bash others beliefs on a cultural holiday, that is suppose to promote peace, is that peace or stating some shitty opinion.

So if Christmas is Bull crap, then you shouldn't celebrate such a "bull shit" season. Oh you know what that means? No presents and you have to work then. Wait, but we're picking and chosen now. Of course...typical. Although Jesus was not born on December 25th, this is a federal holiday to celebrate nonetheless.

My, quite the narrowed minds we have on here to look pass that. It's not freedom of speech if it preaches intolerances. I mean would we all feel the same way if we allowed the KKK to march up and down the street of MLK Jr. Birthday saying, "Death to all niggers, and MLK is burning in hell"? Yes, that's a cultural day too.
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Raptor:
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But why allow Christianity if the old Pagan ways still controlled his people?


But why allow scientology if old xian ways "still controlled" american people?


Why do we allow any religion, it's called a choice. How does Christianity control people?


I think you've answered your own question.

Remember, rome wasn't trippin off of what its new conquered region faith was, so long as it payed taxes and recognized roman rule/authority...
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Originally posted by Raptor:
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Raptor:
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But why allow Christianity if the old Pagan ways still controlled his people?


But why allow scientology if old xian ways "still controlled" american people?


Why do we allow any religion, it's called a choice. How does Christianity control people?


I think you've answered your own question.

Remember, rome wasn't trippin off of what its new conquered region faith was, so long as it payed taxes and recognized roman rule/authority...


That does not control people because of some region faith was conquered. They were all practicing their Pagans way before Christianity was made legal, because it went against their views. The question is, why allow Christianity in the first place if you already have control of your empire? You missed that.
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Vox:
IMHO, this whole issue is such a waste of time, on both sides. People who get bent out of shape about this issue would be doing a tremendous service to this world if they'd devote that energy instead to some other cause. Think how many HIV transmissions we'd prevent if that movement could harness the passions these guys have for this bullcrap non-issue.

Atheists are allowed to thrive in this country; Christianity is allowed to thrive in this country. People in other parts of the world get strung up and burned alive over their religions, and knuckleheads here are crying "religious oppression" because there's a nativity scene outside City Hall, or because Wal-Mart sells "Holiday Trees" instead of Christmas trees. What an insult to Iraqi Christians, or Afghan Hindus, and what they've gone through. Get over it already.

Christmas, especially in this country, is more of a cultural holiday than a religious one anyway.


That does sound poetically nice and all, but do not claim to promote peace when it actually promotes intolerances. What is the Navity scene of Jesus doing to piss people off? Tell me that, and also, when you go around and bash others beliefs on a cultural holiday, that is suppose to promote peace, is that peace or stating some shitty opinion.

So if Christmas is Bull crap, then you shouldn't celebrate such a "bull shit" season. Oh you know what that means? No presents and you have to work then. Wait, but we're picking and chosen now. Of course...typical. Although Jesus was not born on December 25th, this is a federal holiday to celebrate nonetheless.

My, quite the narrowed minds we have on here to look pass that. It's not freedom of speech if it preaches intolerances. I mean would we all feel the same way if we allowed the KKK to march up and down the street of MLK Jr. Birthday saying, "Death to all niggers, and MLK is burning in hell"? Yes, that's a cultural day too.


Eek
Wow, dude, you're WAYYY off the deep end, if you read in my post ANY of the stuff you think you're responding to. For example, if you thought I said Christmas was bullcrap, then you've got some reading comprehension problems that are so profound that I don't even think it would be worthwhile to clarify my post for you. OMG!!
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Originally posted by urbansun:
People overuse "religion as a control mechanism" which is simply the reguritation of various forms of "nietzchism".[/quiote]

Your opinion, but we tend to disagree, conmsidering you 'base' and mine, that's understandable...

[quote]A few points, religion has been used as a control mechanism, but it has also been used as a tool for liberation. The most dominant modern "control" philosophies have not been based upon religion, but communist atheism.


I also disagree... The most OVERT forms of control maybe...

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Finally I still find it difficult to believe that individuals are so willing to deny "individaul culpability" in favor of a dominant oppressive philosophy. By that I mean that in all of these conversations we minimize individual choice in favor of forced group think in regard to faith.


But 'faith' is largely 'forced' group think, most people are born into a religion and indoctrinated as children. I agree people do have a 'choice' when they become adults in 'this' society... but I also think that that choice often largely is based on exposure to different thought processes, which as I get older, I realize most do not experience, and are 'trained' to avoid...

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Can you force faith? I don't think so. You can force behavior, and practice under threat, but belief is a self-determined choice.


True for the initial 'forcing', but one generation in and it's usually on auto-pilot.

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Finally, in regard to Christmas, I really don't mind if people want to harshly criticize its practice in America because it should be. It is one more event countermanded by our harsh corporatist consumption based system which wants to exploit everything for increased shareholder value.


I completely agree....
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Vox:
IMHO, this whole issue is such a waste of time, on both sides. People who get bent out of shape about this issue would be doing a tremendous service to this world if they'd devote that energy instead to some other cause. Think how many HIV transmissions we'd prevent if that movement could harness the passions these guys have for this bullcrap non-issue.

Atheists are allowed to thrive in this country; Christianity is allowed to thrive in this country. People in other parts of the world get strung up and burned alive over their religions, and knuckleheads here are crying "religious oppression" because there's a nativity scene outside City Hall, or because Wal-Mart sells "Holiday Trees" instead of Christmas trees. What an insult to Iraqi Christians, or Afghan Hindus, and what they've gone through. Get over it already.

Christmas, especially in this country, is more of a cultural holiday than a religious one anyway.


That does sound poetically nice and all, but do not claim to promote peace when it actually promotes intolerances. What is the Navity scene of Jesus doing to piss people off? Tell me that, and also, when you go around and bash others beliefs on a cultural holiday, that is suppose to promote peace, is that peace or stating some shitty opinion.

So if Christmas is Bull crap, then you shouldn't celebrate such a "bull shit" season. Oh you know what that means? No presents and you have to work then. Wait, but we're picking and chosen now. Of course...typical. Although Jesus was not born on December 25th, this is a federal holiday to celebrate nonetheless.

My, quite the narrowed minds we have on here to look pass that. It's not freedom of speech if it preaches intolerances. I mean would we all feel the same way if we allowed the KKK to march up and down the street of MLK Jr. Birthday saying, "Death to all niggers, and MLK is burning in hell"? Yes, that's a cultural day too.


Eek
Wow, dude, you're WAYYY off the deep end, if you read in my post ANY of the stuff you think you're responding to. For example, if you thought I said Christmas was bullcrap, then you've got some reading comprehension problems that are so profound that I don't even think it would be worthwhile to clarify my post for you. OMG!!


lol Basically...
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Vox:
IMHO, this whole issue is such a waste of time, on both sides. People who get bent out of shape about this issue would be doing a tremendous service to this world if they'd devote that energy instead to some other cause. Think how many HIV transmissions we'd prevent if that movement could harness the passions these guys have for this bullcrap non-issue.

Atheists are allowed to thrive in this country; Christianity is allowed to thrive in this country. People in other parts of the world get strung up and burned alive over their religions, and knuckleheads here are crying "religious oppression" because there's a nativity scene outside City Hall, or because Wal-Mart sells "Holiday Trees" instead of Christmas trees. What an insult to Iraqi Christians, or Afghan Hindus, and what they've gone through. Get over it already.

Christmas, especially in this country, is more of a cultural holiday than a religious one anyway.


That does sound poetically nice and all, but do not claim to promote peace when it actually promotes intolerances. What is the Navity scene of Jesus doing to piss people off? Tell me that, and also, when you go around and bash others beliefs on a cultural holiday, that is suppose to promote peace, is that peace or stating some shitty opinion.

So if Christmas is Bull crap, then you shouldn't celebrate such a "bull shit" season. Oh you know what that means? No presents and you have to work then. Wait, but we're picking and chosen now. Of course...typical. Although Jesus was not born on December 25th, this is a federal holiday to celebrate nonetheless.

My, quite the narrowed minds we have on here to look pass that. It's not freedom of speech if it preaches intolerances. I mean would we all feel the same way if we allowed the KKK to march up and down the street of MLK Jr. Birthday saying, "Death to all niggers, and MLK is burning in hell"? Yes, that's a cultural day too.


Eek
Wow, dude, you're WAYYY off the deep end, if you read in my post ANY of the stuff you think you're responding to. For example, if you thought I said Christmas was bullcrap, then you've got some reading comprehension problems that are so profound that I don't even think it would be worthwhile to clarify my post for you. OMG!!


lol Basically...


You did just say that the whole concept of Jesus being born on that day is bull crap, therefore making the whole celebration itself along with the gift receiving and day off being BULL SHIT itself, well you just proved me that EVERYTHING you just said is a contradiction and picking and chosen of course. No, that's a OMG! I surely do hate a those who claim to promote peace and turn around and speak nothing but pure intolerances. That's another OMG and you've been called out on that by agreeing to the words on that sign. The sign can stay up, but the wording (if you are to truly promote peace) should change. If not, let the men in the white hoods run wild on MLK Jr. Birthday then...they have freedom of speech too, but that wouldn't be tolerated would it. No DUDE! Big Grin
Come MLK Jr. day if there are some KKK fools running around saying death to Niggers and they are worthless, don't any of you complain then. My what a double standard. lol laugh

Trust me, I may want to complain, but freedom of speech taken a little far on a cultural holiday.
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Vox:

Eek
Wow, dude, you couldn't possibly be sane if you read in my post ANY of the stuff you think you're responding to. For example, if you thought I said Christmas was bullcrap, then you've got some reading comprehension problems that are so profound that I don't even think it would be worthwhile to clarify for you. OMG!!


You did just say that the whole concept of Jesus being born on that day is bull crap,
No, I absolutely did not. You must be insane. You must absolutely have something seriously wrong with you.
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Vox:
Wow, dude, you're WAYYY off the deep end, if you read in my post ANY of the stuff you think you're responding to. For example, if you thought I said Christmas was bullcrap, then you've got some reading comprehension problems that are so profound that I don't even think it would be worthwhile to clarify my post for you. OMG!!


lol Basically...
I mean, do you believe this guy? This may be the most outrageous misread of a post, at least a post I wrote, that I've ever seen. And I don't think he's intentionally lying, I think he actually thinks I said the stuff he's claiming I said! Eek

And I could get into the usual routine: tell him to paste the exact quote, etc., but what's the point, if his reading comp is that horrendous?
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Vox:
Wow, dude, you're WAYYY off the deep end, if you read in my post ANY of the stuff you think you're responding to. For example, if you thought I said Christmas was bullcrap, then you've got some reading comprehension problems that are so profound that I don't even think it would be worthwhile to clarify my post for you. OMG!!


lol Basically...
I mean, do you believe this guy? This may be the most outrageous misread of a post, at least a post I wrote, that I've ever seen. And I don't think he's intentionally lying, I think he actually thinks I said the stuff he's claiming I said! Eek


Yup... It would be frightenning if it wasn't so damned funny!
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Vox:
I mean, do you believe this guy? This may be the most outrageous misread of a post, at least a post I wrote, that I've ever seen. And I don't think he's intentionally lying, I think he actually thinks I said the stuff he's claiming I said! Eek


Yup... It would be frightenning if it wasn't so damned funny!
Actually, I find it pretty frightening! More frightening than funny! And you know me, I'm always looking for the entertainment value in things. I'm quite shaken by this experience!
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Originally posted by Vox:
IMHO, this whole issue is such a waste of time, on both sides. People who get bent out of shape about this issue would be doing a tremendous service to this world if they'd devote that energy instead to some other cause. Think how many HIV transmissions we'd prevent if that movement could harness the passions these guys have for this bullcrap non-issue.



Did you notice that last part, it's bull crap non-issue? Yes, it's funny to me too and shaken, as much as the KKK prancing around on MLK Jr. Birthday as well. LOL Hope you're entertained?
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Vox:
I mean, do you believe this guy? This may be the most outrageous misread of a post, at least a post I wrote, that I've ever seen. And I don't think he's intentionally lying, I think he actually thinks I said the stuff he's claiming I said! Eek


Yup... It would be frightenning if it wasn't so damned funny!
Actually, I find it pretty frightening! More frightening than funny! And you know me, I'm always looking for the entertainment value in things. I'm quite shaken by this experience!


Yes, a "mis-read" when the thing is in quotations there. No excuses now, and when it comes MLK Jr. Birthday (I use to this day importantly to make a point) we can divert our attention elsewhere right? Who cares what the racist crackers have to say, right? I mean that is what this board is about some of the time, what the racist White man has to say? Hmm? Is this still funny? Double----Standard. I'm entertained, are you? Respect is needed, that is all.
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Vox:
I mean, do you believe this guy? This may be the most outrageous misread of a post, at least a post I wrote, that I've ever seen. And I don't think he's intentionally lying, I think he actually thinks I said the stuff he's claiming I said! Eek


Yup... It would be frightenning if it wasn't so damned funny!
Actually, I find it pretty frightening! More frightening than funny! And you know me, I'm always looking for the entertainment value in things. I'm quite shaken by this experience!


laugh You're killing me! No need to be afraid Vox. He has a plastic kiddy pail on his head...
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Vox:
I mean, do you believe this guy? This may be the most outrageous misread of a post, at least a post I wrote, that I've ever seen. And I don't think he's intentionally lying, I think he actually thinks I said the stuff he's claiming I said! Eek


Yup... It would be frightenning if it wasn't so damned funny!
Actually, I find it pretty frightening! More frightening than funny! And you know me, I'm always looking for the entertainment value in things. I'm quite shaken by this experience!


laugh You're killing me! No need to be afraid Vox. He has a plastic kiddy pail on his head...


I may have a plastic bucket on my head yes, but I mean you have some action figures as an avatar there. Toys. Who could you take more seriously? lol No, you're killing me. What next, G.I Joes? Do they come along with a baking set as well? dance
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
I may have a plastic bucket on my head yes, but I mean you have some action figures as an avatar there. Toys. Who could you take more seriously? lol No, you're killing me. What next, G.I Joes? Do they come along with a baking set as well? dance


That's Yoruba iconography genius... You are crazy and stupid.

Black Gods: Ancient African Pathways to Wisdom & Power


No, just some toys or a ancient color book. LOL See I can be quite silly too.
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But why allow Christianity if the old Pagan ways still controlled his people?


But why allow scientology if old xian ways "still controlled" american people?


Why do we allow any religion, it's called a choice and that word, TOLERANCES!!! How does Christianity control people?


The same way scientology "controlled" people.
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... and when it comes MLK Jr. Birthday (I use to this day importantly to make a point) we can divert our attention elsewhere right?


Speaking of mlk holiday:

I remember working for this cabinet making company down in macon, ga. Bassett furniture, to be exact. We actually worked on mlk's birthday.
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
laugh You're killing me! No need to be afraid Vox. He has a plastic kiddy pail on his head...
Good point. While he's at it, he needs to put See Spot Run in front of his eyes and learn to read.
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Raptor:
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But why allow Christianity if the old Pagan ways still controlled his people?


But why allow scientology if old xian ways "still controlled" american people?


Why do we allow any religion, it's called a choice and that word, TOLERANCES!!! How does Christianity control people?


The same way scientology "controlled" people.


Yes Scientology does control people, its called by duping them into giving up their life savings to build some space ship along with the wonderful "reward" of having your soul scanned with an answering machine device. LOL I can't say Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other religion does this. No, they don't. If they are to give money, you guess it, because they chose to do so for their church, NOT by force. I say, if one is to be enslaved, that must make you a slave by force? Too bad that just doesn't imply here, huh? No then we go back to having a choice, so how does that make one a "slave"? Just like Scientology????
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
laugh You're killing me! No need to be afraid Vox. He has a plastic kiddy pail on his head...
Good point. While he's at it, he needs to put See Spot Run in front of his eyes and learn to read.


I got to say, I have more education probably than yourself. Why do I say this? Well Vox, reading websites and believing half-truths doesn't just count it. I do see spot run, and spot runs pretty well...just like you from the police. lol 20 That is what you consider a cheap shot, racist and PRETTY FUNNY! Don't worry, the cops aren't that fast, I would know.
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Originally posted by Raptor:
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... and when it comes MLK Jr. Birthday (I use to this day importantly to make a point) we can divert our attention elsewhere right?


Speaking of mlk holiday:

I remember working for this cabinet making company down in macon, ga. Bassett furniture, to be exact. We actually worked on mlk's birthday.


All you had to say was Georgia...no wonder why.
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Originally posted by Willywill3:
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Originally posted by Vox:
Good point. While he's at it, he needs to put See Spot Run in front of his eyes and learn to read.


I got to say, I have more education probably than yourself. Why do I say this? Well Vox, reading websites and believing half-truths doesn't just count it. I do see spot run, and spot runs pretty well...just like you from the police. lol 20 That is what you consider a cheap shot, racist and PRETTY FUNNY! Don't worry, the cops aren't that fast, I would know.
17 LOL, whatever u say, bro. lol
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its called by duping them into giving up their life savings


I take it WillyWill3 never heard of jim jones...

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I can't say Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other religion does this. No, they don't.


Which is it? You "can't say", or "No they don't"? nono
Oshun, you idea of 'forcing faith' has a mixed historical record. There are still Jews inspite of persecution, there are still Christians in spite of persecution, there are still Muslims in spite of persecution.

Our experience is definitely unique in that we were defragmented in our first generations by language, tribe, etc. and so theoretically this coupled with other aspects of slavery and racism maybe made the Christian blueprint easier to impose. But I don't think that you can make a blanket historical statement that the second generation has auto buy in, because history doesn't reflect that.
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Originally posted by urbansun:
But I don't think that you can make a blanket historical statement that the second generation has auto buy in, because history doesn't reflect that.


I would say that it is the case the majority of the time... When I make statements of this kind they are rarely absolute in nature...

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