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My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

By Larry Elder

Dec 29, 2005

While off for the holidays, I took my 90-year-old, former Marine, Republican dad to his inner-city barbershop. Dad goes to the same barbershop that my brothers and I went to when we were growing up. Different people now own the shop, and I hadn't set foot in there in probably 35 years. Is it still, I asked Dad, the same "afro-centric," white-man-done-me-wrong, trash-talking joint? "Yes," sighed my father, who taught my brothers and me to overcome racism through hard work and personal responsibility.

When we get there, it's packed. Two barbers, cutting hair, with about six or seven people waiting. But the walls no longer sport posters of an angry, finger-pointing Malcolm X, or Elijah Muhammad, the founder of the anti-Semitic Nation of Islam, or Marcus Garvey, who urged blacks to leave racist America and return to Africa. I remember them staring down at me as my barber ranted about how "the white man" oppresses us. But on this day, as my dad and I walk in, one of the barbers recognizes me.

Barber: Mr. Larry Elder, how you doin'?

Larry: This is my dad. (My taciturn dad never told him that the notorious Sage from South Central was his son.) How many ahead of him?

Barber: Two.

The barber offered to take my dad right away, cutting in front of others, but dad and I quickly refused. As we waited, one of the barbers and I began talking about what the barber called the "problem of racism." I argued that racism no longer posed a significant obstacle to black progress. What other country could produce a Colin Powell, a Condi Rice, an Oprah Winfrey, a Tiger Woods, a Barack Obama and a Snoop Dogg?

Larry: What about my dad? How did he manage? How do you compare what it's like now to what it was like then? He grew up in the Jim Crow South during the Depression, when black adult unemployment was 50 percent. He dropped out of school at age 13, after his mother threw him out of the house in favor of her then-boyfriend. Hard jobs followed, and he served in World War II. When he came out, he worked two full-time jobs as a janitor, cooked for a family on the weekends and went to night school to get his high school G.E.D. He saved his money and somehow managed to start a restaurant when he was in his 40s, which he ran until he was in his 80s. If racism didn't stop him then, how can racism stop you today? And he votes Republican!

Most of the customers, and the barbers, start laughing. But another customer could take it no longer.

Customer: But you have to admit, Elder, that the playing field is not level. White people have more money and more property than we do.

Larry: (Turning to him.) Let's say I'm white and I got money. (Laughter.) Either I worked for it or my dad worked for it, or my grandfather worked for it and I inherited it. Still, it's my money. And guess what -- I'm not giving it to you! I'm sorry about Rodney King. I'm sorry about Emmett Till. I'm sorry about Rosa Parks. I'm not giving you my money. I'm sorry they turned water hoses and dogs on Martin Luther King. I'm sorry about Rosewood. I'm sorry about the Tuskegee Experiment. I'm not giving you my money. I'm sorry about slavery. I'm sorry about Jim Crow. But I never owned a slave, and I don't use the 'N' word. I am not giving you my money.

The barbers laughed.

Larry: Now, what are you gonna do about it? Take it from me? Hah! I believe in the 2nd Amendment, and I own a gun. (More laughter.) Try and come and get it. (More laughter.) Try and take it from me through politics, and I'm gonna vote Republican to keep my taxes down. (More laughter.) Now I ask you again, what do you intend to do about it? Let me offer a suggestion -- invest in yourself. Get an education, learn a trade or a skill, get a job, and get your own stuff. So you can BMW -- bitch, moan and whine -- all you want. But I am not giving you my money.

By now, most of the men in the barbershop, including the barbers, laughed.

Barber: The man makes sense.

Larry: When can we blacks get to the point where you and I can have a disagreement -- about racism, affirmative action, the War in Iraq, whatever -- without someone who thinks like me being a sell-out or an Uncle Tom? Is that at all possible? Am I asking too much?

Barber: (Smiling.) No, man, that's not asking too much.

While driving home, my dad said, "That was something, Larry."

"No, Dad," I said, "you are something. Besides, I said nothing you hadn't heard before -- or said."

© MBM

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After all that, after reporting his Monologue @ The Barbershop... Why does he feel compelled to lead and beg for Black people to consider his "disagreement" in some certain way? I mean, that's clearly not something that's reciprocated. He definitely made no allowances for the sentiments, thoughts and philosophies of the barber, the clientele or "WE BLACKS."


That's one thing I'll never understand.
He wants to play [WHITE] Devil's Advocate then wants to beg people to not consider him a sell-out or Uncle Tom or a Negro In Deference? What kind of low-tech, high stink BS is that?
    "Please understand the White Man. But "you Blacks" with that ANGRY Malcolm X, "the White man" this and that... Well, there's no reason to understand or even entertain any conversation about racism, etc. since Slavery and Segregation is gone."
Roll Eyes Roll EyesRoll Eyes Roll EyesRoll Eyes Roll EyesRoll Eyes Roll Eyes
Larry Elder was clearly kidnapped by the Secret Service and had a chip planted in his ass. Never have I seen a Black man tap dance so fast and furious for white folks.



It's like he is reading directly from "The White Man's Guide to Talking Your Slave Out of Rising Up Against You."

Nmaginate, Elder is no way speaking to any of us darkies. In truth, whether or not we accept him is of no consequence to him. He wants his white buddies to see this article, pat him on his monkey head, and toss him a few spoiled bananas.
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Nmaginate, Elder is no way speaking to any of us darkies. In truth, whether or not we accept him is of no consequence to him. He wants his white buddies to see this article, pat him on his monkey head, and toss him a few spoiled bananas.


That's what I say... these people aren't concerned about US hearing their message, their goal is get more scooby snacks from their unalike handlers... that's who has to hear and approve of what they say.
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Originally posted by Frenchy:
Larry Elder was clearly kidnapped by the Secret Service and had a chip planted in his ass. Never have I seen a Black man tap dance so fast and furious for white folks.



It's like he is reading directly from "The White Man's Guide to Talking Your Slave Out of Rising Up Against You."

Nmaginate, Elder is no way speaking to any of us darkies. In truth, whether or not we accept him is of no consequence to him. He wants his white buddies to see this article, pat him on his monkey head, and toss him a few spoiled bananas.



ROTFLMAO!!!!

p.s. I almost, fell for the Elder 'okidoke', until I heard his response to an African American woman (on his recently cancelled television show), who was opining about racism in the U.S. He asked her, why did'nt she just go 'back' to Africa if the racism was so bad here!! I could'nt believe it.
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who taught my brothers and me to overcome racism through hard work and personal responsibility.


What always gets under my skin when black people prattle on like this is how blind or stupid the individual must be. I believe in one since that this is true – on an individual basis. But under the umbrella of racism it's complete bullshit. He did not overcome racism. In an oppressive society, when you belong to the group which is oppressed, YOU do not overcome anything. You are ALLOWED and GIVEN privileges which can easily be taken away. And lets be clear Colin Powell, a Condi Rice, an Oprah Winfrey, a Tiger Woods, a Barack Obama and a Snoop Dogg are where they are not by working hard. They are their because they have been allowed to be there AND had to work twice as hard to get there more then likely. Ask Micheal Jackson, O.J Simpson, Ron Brown (still think is death was suspicious)
I get so sick and tired of hearing this bs from this republican lawn jockey. He acts as if HIS father is the only Black person or Black man who did ALL these things in a racist society. Millions of Black people in America did the same things he says his father did, accomplished the same things, his father did, served in WWI/WWII/Vietnam/Etc., and did so in the mist of a racist nation with the only difference being other Black people go to work every day, graduate from school (or get a G.E.D., which by the way was not even a reality in the 1940's), etc., etc., etc., with the exception being, that all the while they are working and accomplishing something in life, they will call a spade a spade at the same time and raise hell about racism in this country and not cower down and remain silent about it like the 3 monkies: see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

What the hell is he talking about (and others like him)? Always trying to make some distinction between the Blacks in America that will raise hell about racism and the ones who won't, as if to 'propagandize' to the world(Black people) that if you cower down and don't talk about racism in America you will be successful, but if you dare speak of its existence, you will not be successfull; as if whether or not you speak out against racism and/or of the racism that exists in America makes or breaks your potential for being successful. Implying constantly, that ALL the Blacks in America that speak about, raise hell about, know for a fact that racism DOES exist and DOES have an affect on Black people's day to day lives are unemployed, don't want to work, are uneducated, or have not worked as hard as his father.

Please, most Black people that feel they are being discriminated against usually are. Most Black people will not hesitate to state when they know that racsim has nothing to do with something. And if you were to actually be in contact with Black people in America that actually do fit the sterotypes that white racsim tries to constantly shove down the throats of ALL Blacks in America, you will find that they pretty much don't have any reason to or interest in discussing racism in America, usually because, they are the ones least affected by it. When are actually trying to accomplish something, when you are actively involved in the work world, when you are actually educating yourself, when you are actually striving towards or have accomplished higher education, is where you are most likely to be confronted with racism, not in the 'hood', not on the street corner, not sitting in your own home/apartment all day watching soap operas.

So, I really don't know who (other than as Frenchy states, white people) Larry Elder is talking to, because I can assure you that most of the Blacks that actually fit some racist sterotype do not and probably will never even know who he is and are not usually the ones that engage in deep thought about racism.
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You are ALLOWED and GIVEN privileges which can easily be taken away


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Now this is what more people need to understand, especially, people like Elder and all the other Black republican lawn jockeys, as well as, any other people who live in the fantasy world that racism no longer exists, no longer plays a part in the lives of Blacks in America, can't affect you if you are 'hard working' and 'don't complain' about racism . . .
One thing to note here and in other situations when CONservatives like to speak with some perversed order in their imagined Moral Court... (like HiREZ in CON-Feed's "CONCUSSED Liberal?" quoted thread)... they claim some moral victory not by how they displayed a more reasonable or superior position to their vocational or intellectual/academic equal... they(he) tries to project a victory over men who cut hair for a living and engage in talk about life, politics and racism as a leisure type of topic - i.e. ain't much they say going to reference much but a common man's perception and interpretation. And a common man Elder, with his strange John McWhorter lispin' ass, is not.

You don't see Elder challenging his vocational/intellectual equals, like a Michael Eric Dyson or, better, more equal yet Black "LIBERAL" radio/TV commentators, columnist, academics, etc.
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You don't see Elder challenging his vocational/intellectual equals, like a Michael Eric Dyson or, better, more equal yet Black "LIBERAL" radio/TV commentators, columnist, academics, etc.


But apparently, they like to talk shit about them behind their backs:

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18040

Yet Larry Elder won't face off with him face-to-face in an intellectual/academic battle.

All he is is a convenient nigger to stick his head out and voice Massa's wishes and hold himself up as a "credit to his race" and a "vision of what Black people can become":

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/davidlimbaugh/2002/08/10/164052.html
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http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18040

All he is is a convenient nigger to stick his head out and voice Massa's wishes and hold himself up as a "credit to his race" and a "vision of what Black people can become":

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/davidlimbaugh/2002/08/10/164052.html
With all those types of appearances, with those types of associations, being published in those types of places... Then a Negro has the nerves to beg "Can WE BLACKS (Damn!!! Mimicking that too!@) disagree and ya'll not consider my buck dancin' ass a Sell-Out (though I'm getting paid for nefarious services) and/or an Uncle Tom?"

But, just as the Black CONservatives seem to love to suggest themselves, maybe this has a lot to do with the parenting and upbringing Larry Elder got. His Talk Radio show often featured his mother in occasional segments with her nodding agreement to the younger Elders diatribe. Seems like that's the difference. A family's reinforcement:
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"There came a point when I couldn't look my own people in the face," [Glenn] Loury says, explaining his evolution {{as stated in the article Glenn Loury's About Face}}.

"Everyone else had a place to go... [I could only go] back to Chicago and [I] talked to my uncle about what I was doing. There was a reproachful look in his eyes, a sadness. He said to me: "Eventually I realized I couldn't live like that."
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Sellouts all of them. I hate them, seriously. Damn them all to hell.



Yep.....it is these house negroes that make the advancement of black people harder due to the push in the opposite direction they assist the white racist CON with. What I really resent about those negroes is that they benefitted from the collective efforts of others and now want to nullify the same for those behind them.....a lower piece of shit the earth has not known......the blkCON house-negro.....sad azz bowed-head fuckers........
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Sellouts all of them. I hate them, seriously. Damn them all to hell.



Yep.....it is these house negroes that make the advancement of black people harder due to the push in the opposite direction they assist the white racist CON with. What I really resent about those negroes is that they benefitted from the collective efforts of others and now want to nullify the same for those behind them.....a lower piece of shit the earth has not known......the blkCON house-negro.....sad azz bowed-head fuckers........


Damn straight. Clarence Thomas and Ward Connerly, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BENEFICIARIES, BOTH OF THEM, seeks to dismantle Affirmative Action for other Blacks:

http://www.civilrights.org/issues/affirmative/details.cfm?id=38727

http://www.greaterdiversity.com/employers/emp_articles03/connerly_plans.html

F*ck them to death.
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Originally posted by sunnubian:


Please, most Black people that feel they are being discriminated against usually are. Most Black people will not hesitate to state when they know that racsim has nothing to do with something. And if you were to actually be in contact with Black people in America that actually do fit the sterotypes that white racsim tries to constantly shove down the throats of ALL Blacks in America, you will find that they pretty much don't have any reason to or interest in discussing racism in America, usually because, they are the ones least affected by it. When are actually trying to accomplish something, when you are actively involved in the work world, when you are actually educating yourself, when you are actually striving towards or have accomplished higher education, is where you are most likely to be confronted with racism, not in the 'hood', not on the street corner, not sitting in your own home/apartment all day watching soap operas.



This is really where the rubber meets the road. Not to disrupt the Larry Elder feeding-fest, but I thought he was making some good points right up until he gives the "suggestion" to invest in yourself. Obviously, if your not trying to better yourself than none of this matters. It never hits home. How can you be held down by racism if your not trying to go anywhere? I think the reason that this idiot is a conservative is because he has bought the party line of the "pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps" rugged-individualism crap. bang In fact, when your dealing with a problem that affects an entire community, such as racism, than the community has to pull-up together. Someone facing racism is already investing in himself. After that the solution becomes investing in your community.
I wonder if CF is his son or little brother? I wonder if my spam alert disconnected the program that we thought was self-hater#1..I haven't seen a post od his...and do not get me wrong...I do not miss his azz........at all......

read this bullschit:


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The (Blue) State Of The Union Address

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Posted: February 2, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: The following column is intended as satire.

By Larry Elder



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© 2006 Laurence A. Elder

My fellow Americans, I am evil.

I only care about rich people, and rich people only care about other rich people – unless, of course, your name is Kennedy. In fact, it is misleading to say that I only care about the rich. I truly only care about Republican, white, Christian males who are rich.

I would say that I am truly the president of Halliburton, except I'm having the darndest time spelling the word "Halliburton." I'm corrupt, incompetent and racist. Oh, sure, in order to help deal with the problem of illegal aliens, I have offered a guest-worker program, but "guest-worker program" spelled backward means "shoot to kill." Or at least I think it does.


The black Democratic congressman from New York, Charlie Rangel, nailed it when he called me "our Bull Connor." Donna Brazile, the black lady who ran the presidential campaign for Al Gore, also got it right: I am the titular head of the Republican Party, the party of the "white boys."

I stole the election in 2000. I conspired with the governor of Florida to steal votes. The governor of Florida just happens to be my brother. I stole the election in Ohio in 2004 by conspiring with my buddies at Diebold, who make the voting machines, which they rigged in my favor. When you think about it, those white boys at Diebold, well, they're my brothers, too.

Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation is Islam is right. I ordered the Army Corps of Engineers to blow up the levee in New Orleans in order to flood and kill black people. Oh, sure, we snagged a lot of whites – that's why they came up with the term "collateral damage."

I'm pretty stupid. Martin Sheen, the man who played a real president on "West Wing," got it right – I am a "moron." Aaron McGruder, who illustrates the comic strip "The Boondocks," also got it right when he called me "functionally illiterate." Maybe someday I'll wake up from this dream in which I make an SAT verbal score higher than Rhodes Scholar Bill Bradley, get better college grades than Al Gore, graduate from Yale, and get an MBA from Harvard.

I've been a lousy economic steward. I came into office with an economy headed toward recession, and shortly thereafter we endured the 9-11 terrorist attacks. We then invaded two countries, Iraq and Afghanistan. And, most recently, our economy endured hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Since I've been in office, our productivity growth has averaged over 3.5 percent per year, with inflation remaining low. Unemployment stands at 4.9 percent, 400,000 new jobs were created in the last two months, and homeownership is at an all-time high. But, I agree with nearly half of Americans who believe we are already in a recession. And I expect to go down in history – as I should – as presiding over the worst economy since Herbert Hoover.

I agree with Harry Belafonte and Cindy Sheehan that I am the world's greatest terrorist. I'd have to go some to emulate my idols – Joe, Mao and Adolf – but a fella's gotta start somewhere.

Sen. Ted Kennedy is right. I lied us into the war. Repeatedly. I intentionally sent men and women in harm's way, so that I could be a wartime president, because – unlike Michael Dukakis – I sure look spiffy in a flight suit. As Sen. John Kerry puts it, our military terrorizes Iraqi civilians. Meanwhile, I should tell you the real reasons for going into the war: to steer defense contracts to my buddies; to get the SOBs who tried to kill my daddy; to engage in torture; to find a justification to spy on American citizens who have no connection to terrorism whatsoever; and to send soldiers into the field with no body armor and no exit strategy.

How our military managed to topple two governments and free 55 million people just beats the dickens out of me. How Iraq and Afghanistan managed to hold free elections – well, that's a head-scratcher. And how about that Oxford Research International poll showing almost 71 percent of Iraqis say their own life is "good"? Boy, I could use numbers like that. And even though I'm a warmonger, polls show support for terrorism is falling in the Arab world.


Yep, I not only lied, I got the British to lie. I also got the worldwide intelligence community – the United Nations, the French, the Germans, the Egyptians, the Jordanians and the Russians – all to deceive the world by agreeing that Saddam possessed WMD. And who says I can't bring the world together?

I would recommend impeachment, but then you'd just get Cheney. I would go to my White House bedroom and kill myself, but then you'd just get Cheney. Oh, if only I hadn't been born. But then, as my daddy used to say, if a dog's butt were square, he'd poop bricks.

Thank you, and God bless.

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