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Mourning Family Wants Teen's Murderer Arrested

 

 

Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
By: Glenn Minnis, BlackAmericaWeb.com

 

 

 

The grief-stricken family of a 17-year-old unarmed Florida teen shot to death near his gated community home by a self-appointed, pistol packing neighborhood watch captain is loudly questioning why the gunmen remains free to roam the streets nearly a month after his unprovoked attack.

 

Trayvon Martin died just steps away from his father's home after walking to a nearby convenience store to buy candy and juice for his younger brother. Confessed gunmen George Zimmerman, 28, called police moments before the deadly encounter to report citing a "suspicious person" near the Twin Lakes Townhouses and was immediately instructed by authorities to stop following the youth, an order he blatantly chose to ignore.

 

"For some reason, he felt that Trayvon, the way that he was walking or appeared, seemed suspicious to him," said Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee. "He called this in and was told a police officer was on the way. At some point, Trayvon noticed that he was being followed and asked, 'What's your problem?'"

 

"The bottom line is he had a gun, and Trayvon had a bag of Skittles," said lead family attorney Benjamin Crump, adding that the family has reached out to the Rev. Al Sharpton in hopes he will somehow aid them in their desperate quest for answers. "The family simply wants justice,” he said.

 

Armed with a 9mm handgun, Zimmerman tailed Martin by car for several blocks before jumping out of his vehicle on the evening of Sunday, Feb. 26, and confronting the high school junior face to face. Within moments, Martin, whose father has long lived in the area, lay bleeding to death from a gunshot blast to the chest. When police finally arrived, they found Zimmerman still standing over the youth's lifeless body, a gun visibly tucked in his waistband.

 

"What happened between him being confronted, up to the point where he got shot, nobody knows but him and that guy," Tracy Martin, the boy's father, told local reporters. "I want answers, but I don't have any to give — not for his mother, his brothers or sisters. We don't have nothing, but we want answers."

 

"As a mother, my heart is broken. My heart hurts ... I don’t understand," said a teary-eyed Sabrina Martin, Trayvon's mother. "He was just a baby."

 

According to Crump, Zimmerman, who has been described as a "loose cannon," initially claimed he shot the teen in self-defense, even though the encounter clearly ensued only after he approached Martin. Crump added that he has demanded Sanford police turn over recordings of the 911 call made by Zimmerman, as well as several others placed by witnesses, in hopes at least one of them will shed more light on what actually transpired. In one call, the deadly gunshots reportedly can be clearly heard.

 

"They say they are still investigating," said Crump. "I'm not sure what there is to investigate. What's suspicious about this kid? That's what the family is crying out, that our kid is like any other kid. The neighborhood watch was supposed to protect him, not kill him. He was a victim of racial profiling."

 

Meanwhile, reports have surfaced that Zimmerman has a history of being charged with violence, including a 2005 arrest in Orange County, where he was charged with resisting arrest with violence and battery on a law enforcement officer.

 

"When I asked the police why there's been no arrest, they told me they respected Zimmerman's background, that he studied criminal justice for four years and that he was squeaky clean," said Tracy Martin. "My question to them was, did they run my child's background check? I asked them what they came up with, and they said nothing. If the shoes were on the other foot, and my son had done the shooting, he would be locked up right now."

 

Since the shooting, a former community resident has stepped forward to describe Zimmerman and other neighborhood watch members as "drunks, trouble-makers and lunatics."

 

Given all that ammunition, Crump's resolve to get to the bottom of what really happened grows each day.

 

"They just lied to the family," he said of police. "They just couldn't see why Zimmerman would do anything wrong or be violent. But not only do you know the guy killed this kid, because he admitted to it; you knew that he has a propensity for violence because of his past record. Why would any neighborhood watchmen be carrying a loaded gun, especially one with a history of violence? They are just trying to sweep this under a rug."

 

A spokeswoman for the Seminole County State Attorney's Office said the office has not received the case from police, and until an arrest is made it, would not be involved in filing charges against Zimmerman, whose whereabouts are now said to be unknown.

 

"We have not received a case from the Sanford PD yet," said Lynn Bumpus-Hooper. "But we will give it our full consideration when we do," adding that it is not rare for several weeks to pass before the State Attorney's Office receives a homicide or murder case from the police.

 

Funeral services for Martin were held on March 3 in Miami and were attended by more than 1,000 people, including many of his high school classmates.

 
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I have been reading this story all over the internet.  There is something wrong with that police department, how the hell can you just murder a person and then tell the police that you "thought" . . . "believed" . . . or what the hell ever and not even be charged?

 

This goes back to the War on Black People in America and is tied directly to all of the new 'laws' that popped up after President Obama was elected, making is easier to be licensed to carry a 'concealed' weapon, laws that say you have the right to shoot someone if you "feel" 'threatened' . . . in other words, new laws on the books in almost every state, especially southern states, that makes it easy for them to get away with murdering Black people in this country.  

 

I guess I would be spending the rest of my life in prison if some grown assed s.o.b. murdered my 13 year old and then claimed my son did something or that he "felt" 'threatened' after he (the shooter) began to follow my son in his car, even though my son was minding his own business walking home from the store.

 

What is going on now in this country is Neo-jim crow.  Same things happening, just a different decade.

Sista ER wrote:  couldn't help myself. I sent an email to that police department and asked them how many other Black children Zimmerman was going to get to kill before they arrested him.

 

 

Good for you my sista!  That's what I'm talking about.  And what is their email?  Put out there soooooooooo others can do the same.

 

So far ... I've received no reply.

 

Oh....but!  Don't worry.  You've started somethin now.  And they won't have a CHOICE but to either reply to the thousands of emails or to arrest this murderer.  I was thinking...a letter to the city council and the commissioner's office will get their attention too.  Let's get this ball rollin  I'm in.  How 'bout yall?  But! 

Sunnubian, I feel that these online petitions being absolutely ineffective in resolving real world issues. It just offers up your personal information to an organization, who knows who is actually running it, in a database. Change.org has done several online petitions, however, I don't see the results of those individual petitions actually causing any significant change without the action of another group or a group in general. I'm not saying that change.org is bad, I'm just questioning their methodology.

Having said that, in this case of an upper class black child being killed you would think that the NAACP would've said something by now. I haven't even received any messages from them as I normally do when something pops off. But I guess they have to wait for the issue to become hot with the white liberal media before they mention anything. Useless.

I agree Yemaya.  

 

I just felt like I had to do something and that was the only thing I could think of all the way in another state.  However, I do sign many only petitions that do get results, but I can't say that Change.org is getting many results compared to the number of petitions on the site.

 

I think that I will do as ER did and write a letter and send it via their email.

 

But, the case is getting a lot of attention now, I hope the family knows that THEY will have to keep this case alive and fresh in the media or once the media attention goes away, (which is a legal tactic used by many attorneys, keep having the case put off until all media attention dies out) the police will revert back to covering up this case for Zimmerman and/or the prosecutor and judge go on through with any intentions of colluding together to make sure he gets an aquittal or the case is thrown out of court.  

  If one feels intimidated by offering unsolicited personal information when advocating an issue....... all you have to do is go to the public library and use one of their computers and creat a new email with a made-up name.  The way emails are designed now...you don't have to give up your REAL name/address/age/gender.   Your name could be "concerned about my black people" if you want.  So.  See how easy that was?  Don't let FEAR interrupt having a voice for the voiceless.  During the civil rights movement, we didn't have this protection and those folks walked the line anyway.  As a result, who benefitted?  It is wise to be protect yourself, but it is also necessary to be courageous, brave and unyielding for what you believe in.....no matter WHO may see or not see your face.  We can no longer continue to HIDE behind the mask while screaming at the top of our lungs...cuz that there is what I call ineffective!  But!   

The way I see it ... there's nothing wrong with doing "ALL OF THE ABOVE"!!!!!   

 

Send emails, sign petitions, write to NUMEROUS people/politicians/organizations when it comes to ANY or ALL issues!!

 

What we need to realize is that soooooo many of our issues - and the solutions to them - are multifaceted .... and need to be solved from different angles, through many approaches, and using a variety of methods.

 

There's no "one-solutions-fits-all" here.  I don't think we can do "too much" at this point!!    EVERY little bit can only help us. 

Witness in Trayvon Martin Murder Case Says Police Blew Her Off

 
 

Local affiliate WFTV spoke with a woman who heard night watch vigilante George Zimmerman shoot 17 year old Trayvon Martin as he walked home from a convenience store, but says she was blown off by police.

Zimmerman said he was acting in self-defense when he shot Martin, but witness Mary Cutcher contradicts Zimmerman’s account. Cutcher says when she attempted to offer the police her account of what happened, they only took a 30 second report from her, and quickly dismissed her. She said the police did not take a detailed statement from her until she repeatedly reached out to them.

So what did happen that night?

Cutcher says it was Martin, and not Zimmerman, who was screaming for help. ”The cries stopped as soon as the gun went off, so I know it was the little boy,” Cutcher said.

Cutcher said Martin was killed in her backyard, and she and others questioned Zimmerman after the shooting: “We said, ‘Is everything OK? And he just looked at us. Selma [another witness] asked him again, ‘What’s up, what’s going on, everything OK? And he just said, ‘Call the police,’ kind of nonchalantly, kind of like, ‘Leave me alone,’ ” Cutcher said.

She also said she believes Zimmerman continued to chase Martin as he tried to get home, and that she knows this wasn’t a case of self-defense.

“I know this was not self-defense. There was no punching, no hitting going on at the time, no wrestling,’” Cutcher said.

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by sunnubian:

Please go to change.org and sign Petition, "Black and suspicious", demanding that Zimmerman be charged and tried for this child's cold blooded murder.

And if he doesn't get charged, then the officers who DIDN'T arrest him, should be fired, and also be charged with conspiracy to murder, aiding and abetting AND/OR obstruction of justice.

Foolishness, anger and posturing  aside, what can be legally done to have this man arrested? I wish Vox was here to school us on some legal options. I looked over a Citizen's Arrest, but this is not an option since an arrest must happen at the time of the commission of the crime. Other than suing the police department, it seems as if there is no other legal recourse.

They can appeal to their State Attorney, considering that it is obvious that the police are colluding with this killer by not arresting or even charging him with a crime in the first place.  The best thing they can do right now is keep media attention on this case, because, really, when it comes to a crime involving White vs. Black people, the police, the courts, the prosecutor are all going to come down on the side of the White person in the matter.  

Yep ... and therein really lies the problem!!

 

At the risk of sounding like a broken record ..... (again  ) ... the fact of the matter is that the ONLY thing we - Black people - can do is to become POLITICALLY ACTIVE enough to change laws ... put people/politicians in place that actually REPRESENT us as a constituency .... HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE for what they do or don't do on our behalf .... kick them out and get somebody else when they don't do what we want.

 

Because 1) our VOTE is our ONLY real VOICE in this country (which is why White folks right now are trying to take it way from as many of us as possible!!!).  And 2) because like it or not, it's the ONE thing that "the White establishment" respects and adheres to in this country - the rule of law!!!

 

When the LAW is changed .... White people change with it.  HISTORICALLY .... if you look at the evolution of this country .... It's the way it ALWAYS has been.  And It's the way it ALWAYS will be.

 

Black people always want to WIN.  But don't want to learn HOW to play the game.   Protect your right to vote.  And USE IT ... every time you possibly can.

Originally Posted by EbonyRose:

Yep ... and therein really lies the problem!!

 

At the risk of sounding like a broken record ..... (again  ) ... the fact of the matter is that the ONLY thing we - Black people - can do is to become POLITICALLY ACTIVE enough to change laws ... put people/politicians in place that actually REPRESENT us as a constituency .... HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE for what they do or don't do on our behalf .... kick them out and get somebody else when they don't do what we want.

 

Because 1) our VOTE is our ONLY real VOICE in this country (which is why White folks right now are trying to take it way from as many of us as possible!!!).  And 2) because like it or not, it's the ONE thing that "the White establishment" respects and adheres to in this country - the rule of law!!!

 

When the LAW is changed .... White people change with it.  HISTORICALLY .... if you look at the evolution of this country .... It's the way it ALWAYS has been.  And It's the way it ALWAYS will be.

 

Black people always want to WIN.  But don't want to learn HOW to play the game.   Protect your right to vote.  And USE IT ... every time you possibly can.

Bingo!  First of all, they need to get that vigilante behind bars who shot that kid for no reason.  Then they need to fire those police officers who didn't put him in jail, and charge them with aiding and abetting, conspiracy to murder/manslaughter (b/c they aided and abetted the guy) and obstruction of justice!  That should be at least 20 years for those crooked cops.

You are absolutely right, Huey!! 

 

Because at the LOCAL level ... it was the Mayor (that was voted into office by the people  .... or, probably more aptly by the people that didn't bother to vote!! ) that appointed the police chief .... who's responsible for hiring the police in that department ,,, who are participating in this corruption scandal. 

 

We need to make sure WE are electing public officials at ALL levels of government ... including mayors, city council members, the judges that rule over our justice system, the city commissioners that decide how our tax money is spent and what our neighborhoods look like, school board members that govern the education of our children, and every other aspect of how our everyday lives are affected by politics and government!!

 

We at least need to care about ourselves enough to learn how to take care of ourselves.    But these days ... everybody just seems to want to "get over."  Which is why we haven't gotten very far in the past 50 years.

The 911 calls have been released. Now why is this man walking around free?? The police are walking around as if they can't do anything about this.

 

http://www.axiomamnesia.com/Au...-Martin-911-Call.mp3

 

http://www.axiomamnesia.com/Au...g-Gunshots-Heard.mp3

 

 

So let's rewind to a similar incident which occurred in 2007 in Pasdena, TX. Again to no charges.

 

To quote the fiery Dr. Vernon Johns whose quote is just as relevant as it was at the time he made it:

"Last week, a white man was fined for shooting a rabbit out of season. But of course, it's safe to murder Negroes.

A rabbit is better off than a Negro because in Alabama (insert your state and city here) niggers are always in season"

Militia Group Wants to Arrest Martin's Killer

 

Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 6:22 am
By: Mike Schneider, Associated Press

 

Family members said 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was visiting his father when he shot to death by a neighborhood watch leader.

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Members of a self-described black militia group will attempt a citizen's arrest on a white neighborhood watch leader who has admitted to fatally shooting an unarmed African-American teen in an Orlando suburb, but has not been charged, a leader of the group said Thursday.

Members of The New Black Liberation Militia plan next week to take 28-year-old George Zimmerman to federal authorities since local police haven't acted, said Najee Muhammad, a leader of the militia group.

"We'll find him. We've got his mug shot and everything," Muhammad said.

Sanford police did investigate but have declined for now to arrest Zimmerman who says he acted self-defense last month when he shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Police say they have no evidence to disprove his assertion. They have since turned the case over to the State Attorney's Office, and a spokeswoman said it could be weeks before a decision is made on whether to file charges or present the case to a grand jury.

An attorney for the teen's family said they are discouraging actions such as what the militia proposed.

"They want justice at the hands of authorities and nobody else," said attorney Benjamin Crump. "Everybody has a right to peacefully assemble but we certainly want to leave any kind of arrests ... to the authorities."

A spokesman for Sanford police didn't return an email seeking comment about the militia group's plans. Zimmerman has a disconnected number and couldn't be reached for comment.

Moments before the shooting, Zimmerman had called police to report a suspicious person in the neighborhood. After a confrontation, he shot and killed Martin who was walking back from a convenience store to a house in the Sanford neighborhood where the teen's father's fiancée lived.

Out of a population of 54,000, about 57 percent of Sanford residents are white and 31 percent are black, according to the 2010 U.S. Census. The median income is about $43,000.

Martin's family has criticized police for not arresting Zimmerman. They filed a lawsuit asking that the 911 tapes be released, but police have said the tapes are part of the investigation and will only be released once the State Attorney's Office is done evaluating the case.

A spokeswoman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights group that monitors hate groups, said her organization didn't have any information on The New Black Liberation Militia. The group describes itself on its website as "Developing and Teaching Spiritual, Psychological, Social, Holistic and Scientific Methods and Techniques to ensure the survival of black people in the 21st century and beyond."

Photos on the site show men dressed in fatigues and berets.

There is no mention of citizen's arrests in Florida's criminal statutes but state courts have cited common law in establishing when such an arrest can be made. The crime has to be a felony. It has to be witnessed by the citizen making the arrest or the citizen has to have probable cause that the person being arrested is guilty of a felony.

Orlando criminal defense attorney Patrick Cairns said members of the militia face a high legal hurdle in taking such action since they didn't witness a crime. They could be charged with false imprisonment if they detain Zimmerman.

"You do a citizen's arrest only if you think the cops aren't going to get there in time and you're afraid somebody is going to leave the scene," Cairns said.

The family started an online petition for the State Attorney's Office, demanding an arrest.

"Trayvon was unarmed when he was shot by Zimmerman," said the online petition, which has been signed by almost 215,000 people. "Please uphold justice."

I don't think that is a good idea either because it would probably wind up overshadowing what Zimmerman is guilty of.  Also, I hate to say it, but, the Martins need another lawyer to handle this; the attorney that appeared with them on NBC will be chewed up and spit out by prosecutors trying to cover up the Obstruction of Justice for the police department and the Lynching that Zimmerman has committed on this child.

You're right Yemaya.  I think that the only time you can make a citizen's arrest is at the time something occurs.  

 

I could clearly hear Trayvon yelling "Help" several times on the recording.  I just hope that everyone is able to keep this case in the media and continue to sign any and all petitions that are circulating the internet, as well as write the Florida State Attorney because this case has been handed to the State Attorney who has already predicted that it will take "weeks" before he could either get to the case or could make a decision, and that is only a stalling tactic; i.e., put it on ice until the uproar grows cold.  I hope that African Americans, Americans in general will not let that happen.

Originally Posted by sunnubian:

You're right Yemaya.  I think that the only time you can make a citizen's arrest is at the time something occurs.  

 

I could clearly hear Trayvon yelling "Help" several times on the recording.  I just hope that everyone is able to keep this case in the media and continue to sign any and all petitions that are circulating the internet, as well as write the Florida State Attorney because this case has been handed to the State Attorney who has already predicted that it will take "weeks" before he could either get to the case or could make a decision, and that is only a stalling tactic; i.e., put it on ice until the uproar grows cold.  I hope that African Americans, Americans in general will not let that happen.

Considering all of the evidence released, George Zimmerman should be in jail. For public safety and for the safety of himself and his family. Because the death threats are coming fast and furious. There were not just these two calls, there were a total of 7 calls made to the police that night about this incident from the housing area about this incident.

 

 

The attorney is the same one who assisted the family of Martin Lee Anderson, the black florida teen who was killed by bootcamp staff stuffing ammonia capsules up his nose after he complained of not being able to do exercises.  The incident was caught on video tape and they still got off, however the state had to pay out a huge sum to the family.  The Martin Lee Anderson case affected me greatly and is one i will never forget.  I hope Ben Crump is able to affect a better outcome on this case. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...on_death_controversy

What Everyone Should Know About Trayvon Martin (1995-2012)
By Judd Legum on Mar 18, 2012 at 6:19 pm

On February 26, 2012, a 17-year-old African-American named Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in Sanford, Florida. The shooter was George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old white man. Zimmerman admits killing Martin, but claims he was acting in self-defense. Three weeks after Martin’s death, no arrests have been made and Zimmerman remains free.

Here is what everyone should know about the case:

 

1. Zimmerman called the police to report Martin’s “suspicious” behavior, which he described as “just walking around looking about.” Zimmerman was in his car when he saw Martin walking on the street. He called the police and said: “There’s a real suspicious guy. This guy looks like he’s up to no good, on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about… These a**holes always get away” [Orlando Sentinel]

 

2. Zimmerman pursued Martin against the explicit instructions of the police dispatcher:

Dispatcher: “Are you following him?”
Zimmerman: “Yeah”

Dispatcher: “OK, we don’t need you to do that.”

[Orlando Sentinel]

 

3. Prior to the release of the 911 tapes, Zimmerman’s father released a statement claiming “[a]t no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin.” [Sun Sentinel]

 

4. Zimmerman was carrying a a 9 millimeter handgun. Martin was carrying a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. [ABC News]

 

5. Martin weighed 140 pounds. Zimmerman weighs 250 pounds. [Orlando Sentinel; WDBO]

 

6. Martin’s English teacher described him as “as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness.” [Orlando Sentinel]

 

7. Martin had no criminal record. [New York Times]

 

8. Zimmerman “was charged in July 2005 with resisting arrest with violence and battery on an officer. The charges appear to have been dropped.” [Huffington Post]

 

9. Zimmerman called the police 46 times since Jan. 1, 2011. [Miami Herald]

 

10. According to neighbors, Zimmerman was “fixated on crime and focused on young, black males.” [Miami Herald]

 

11. Zimmerman “had been the subject of complaints by neighbors in his gated community for aggressive tactics” [Huffington Post]

 

12. A police officer “corrected” a key witness. “The officer told the witness, a long-time teacher, it was Zimmerman who cried for help, said the witness. ABC News has spoken to the teacher and she confirmed that the officer corrected her when she said she heard the teenager shout for help.” [ABC News]

 

13. Three witnesses say they heard a boy cry for help before a shot was fired. “Three witnesses contacted by The Miami Herald say they saw or heard the moments before and after the Miami Gardens teenager’s killing. All three said they heard the last howl for help from a despondent boy.” [Miami Herald]

 

14. The officer in charge of the crime scene also received criticism in 2010 when he initially failed to arrest a lieutenant’s son who was videotaped attacking a homeless black man. [New York Times]

 

15. The police did not test Zimmerman for drugs or alcohol. A law enforcement expert told ABC that Zimmerman sounds intoxicated on the 911 tapes. Drug and alcohol testing is “standard procedure in most homicide investigations.” [ABC News]

The Martin case had been turned over to the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office. Martin’s family has asked for the FBI to investigate.

http://thinkprogress.org/justi...

The more info that comes out about this a$$clown the worse he and the poklice are looking every minute. With all these witnesses coming forward and saying they heard a boy yelling for help, the inconsistent story this boob is givinvg and of course, how can you run someone down and claim self defense? Now I hear they have a witness that told the dective that they heard the young man screaming for help, but the dectetive said she was mistaken.

Death penalty please.


Originally Posted by Yemaya:

Its clear by now that there will be no legal justice forthcoming from this police department OR from the State's attorney's office. The question is now, what are we as a people going to do?"
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They may no other choice but to be forthcoming if all of this support for the Martin's continue, provided that the Martin's retain themselves another attorney to handle this case, then there is always the FBI, on up. 



But, that is why I am hoping that the people will not let this case die out in the media or on the internet, because that is exactly what the police and the state Attorney is doing with this case as we speak, attempting to sit on it, put it on ice until it goes cold in the media and on the internet, so they can quietly never give the Martins the justice they deserve or quietly try the case for show, with every intention that this creep gets off scott-free.

 

I hope this family gets justice, which should include the termination of ANYONE that has tried to obstruct justice in any way.

 

http://www.cfnews13.com/conten...trayvon_martin_fbi_l

 

FBI is now investigating this case. hmph. It really shouldn't have gone that far. It should have gone no further than the city level, but since the city and state are acting incompetent.

 

 

FBI investigates Trayvon Martin's death

A memorial in Sanford grows for Trayvon Martin [left), the 17-year-old who was shot and killed in February by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman (right) - Monday, March 19, 2012.

A memorial in Sanford grows for Trayvon Martin (left), the 17-year-old who was shot and killed in February by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman (right) - Monday, March 19, 2012.

By Amanda Evans, Reporter
Last Updated: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 @ 05:08AM

 

The deadly shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin by a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford has gotten the attention of federal officials and investigators.

Late Monday night, the FBI announced it is opening an investigation into the shooting.

The Justice Department also said it is sending a team to Sanford to investigate and address tensions in the community.

(first of all...)

 

Really?

I'm stunned.

 

A spokeswoman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights group that monitors hate groups, said her organization didn't have any information on The New Black Liberation Militia.

(retract sarcasm ---but it ain't like Kahlid Muhammad had ever kept his agenda a big secret...bottom line is...krakkkas just don't see Black Folk as any 'real' threat anyhow...and THAT'S just 'keepin it real'.)

 

Also, because of Florida's 'stand your ground' law of 2005, even with federal pressures 'posturing', I'm afraid that the psychopaths of that right-wing agenda may have muddied the waters just enough to drag this thing out for years and years before any real remedy may ever even be realized.

   

When will our people actually wake up or, at least...stand up?

 

And for informational purposes...

 

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The New Black Liberation Militia

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We've been conditioned to make too many concessions.

 

Trayvon Martin Exclusive: Friend on Phone with Teen Before Death Recalls Final Moments

<cite class="byline vcard">By MATT GUTMAN and SENI TIENABESO | Good Morning America – <abbr title="2012-03-20T06:32:43Z">5 hours ago</abbr></cite>

In the final moments of his life, Trayvon Martin was being hounded by a strange man on a cellphone who ran after him, cornered him and confronted him, according to the teenage girl whose call logs show she was on the phone with the 17-year-old boy in the moments before neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman shot him dead.

Martin's death Feb. 26 has stirred national outrage and protests, partly prompting the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division and the FBI to open an investigation into the case.

ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump about the last moments of the teenager's life.

"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."

Eventually he would run, said the girl, thinking that he'd managed to escape. But suddenly the strange man was back, cornering Martin.

"Trayvon said, 'What, are you following me for,' and the man said, 'What are you doing here.' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn't answer the phone."

The line went dead. Besides screams heard on 911 calls that night as Martin and Zimmerman scuffled, those were the last words he said.

Trayvon's phone logs, also obtained exclusively by ABC News, show the conversation occurred five minutes before police first arrived on scene. The young woman's parents asked that her name not be used, and that only an attorney could ask her questions.

Martin's father, Tracey Martin, and mother, Sybrina Fulton, listened to the call along with ABC News, ashen-faced.

"He knew he was being followed and tried to get away from the guy, and the guy still caught up with him," Tracey Martin said. "And that's the most disturbing part. He thought he had got away from the guy and the guy back-tracked for him."

The teen was killed by Zimmerman while walking back to his father's fiancés home after stepping out to buy Skittles and some iced tea during the NBA All-Star Game. After weeks of relentless pressure, the Sanford Police have decided to release emergency and non-emergency calls placed during the incident.

"These a**holes always get away," Zimmerman says in a call to a non-emergency number.

Dispatcher: "Are you following him?"

Zimmerman: "Yeah."

Dispatcher: "We don't need you to do that."

An altercation soon ensued. A few moments later a torrent of 911 calls flooded in and Martin was killed by a single bullet. Zimmerman claimed self-defense and has yet to be arrested, stoking outrage and claims of prejudice against the police department.

"When George Zimmerman is arrested, tried and convicted I will get a little rest," Tracey Martin said.

According to a statement by the Justice Department, "The department will conduct a thorough and independent review of all of the evidence and take appropriate action and the conclusion of the investigation. … The government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person acted intentionally and with the specific intent to do something which the law forbids. Negligence, recklessness, mistakes and accidents are not prosecutable under the federal criminal civil rights laws."

Nearly half a million people have signed an online petition on change.org urging law enforcement officials to step in and arrest Zimmerman. Protests have played out in the Florida town all week with a large gathering expected Thursday.

Zimmerman violated major principles of the Neighborhood Watch manual, ABC News has learned. The manual from the Neighborhood Watch program states: "It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers. And they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles."

According to Chris Tutko, the director of the National Neighborhood Watch program, there are about 22,000 registered watch groups nationwide, and Zimmerman was not part of a registered group, which police were not aware of at the time of the incident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Yemaya:

Seems as if the police are trying to deflect all of the focus off of themselves and their screw up by continuing to release more 911 calls from Zimmerman. Though now we see his pathology, doesn't absolve the police from their responsibility for getting this nut off of the streets.

 

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The law officers are just making themselves unfit to carry a badge anywhere on the earth.  They have to be fired from the force and be charged with Obstruction.  If they refuse to arrest Zimmerman, then they need to be put under the jail with him. Period point blank.  No free passes at all.

If you see George Zimmerman: light to tan complexion, Black hair, brown/black eyes, long scar on the left side of his face, ear piercing on his left ear and a mole on the right site of his face be aware that this man is armed and dangerous and should not be approached. He may be in hiding with his wife or other family members and will probably try to alter his appearance. Since this is now a federal investigation, call 1-800 CALLFBI (1-800-225-5324) immediately if you see this criminal in your community.

Uproar grows over citizen volunteer's killing of Florida teen

 

Racial overtones emerge as protesters call for justice in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, who is black, by a neighborhood watch patroller in a gated community.

 

 

In a scene reminiscent of a 1960s civil rights rally, protesters gathered outside the Seminole County criminal courthouse Monday, sang "We Shall Overcome" and demanded the immediate arrest of a neighborhood watch volunteer who shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin to death last month.

"This is not acceptable," said Jason Reed, 25, a Florida A&M University student.

"We want justice now!" about 75 demonstrators chanted.

George Zimmerman, 28, claims self-defense, and so far police say evidence backs him up. But the case has become a cause celebre, with activist Al Sharpton scheduled to appear for a rally Thursday. And late Monday, the Justice Department said it had opened an investigation.

Martin's mother appeared on NBC's "Today" show, saying her son was mild-mannered, never got agitated and was followed because of "the color of his skin."

"I just don't understand why the situation got out of control," Sybrina Fulton said.

Lawyers for the victim's family have said Zimmerman fired twice, but a source close to the investigation told the Orlando Sentinel that police found a single shell casing, and the only bullet missing was the one in the handgun's chamber.

Zimmerman apparently had a habit of calling the law. Authorities released records Monday showing he made 46 calls between January 2011 and Feb. 26, when he shot Martin about 7:15 p.m. as the unarmed youth walked through a gated community, records show. He often mentioned that he was a member of neighborhood watch.

Six recordings of his calls were released Monday, and four of them concerned suspicious persons — all of whom were black. The recordings did not include the Feb. 26 call, when Zimmerman contacted a nonemergency police line to report a suspicious person: Martin.

While still on the phone with police, Zimmerman stepped out of his SUV and followed the teenager on foot. Martin had visited a 7-Eleven, where he'd bought Skittles and a can of Arizona iced tea.

They fought and Martin wound up dead, with a single gunshot to the chest. When police arrived, Zimmerman was standing nearby, blood coming from his nose and the back of his head, according to the police report.

A neighbor called 911, describing the fight as two people wrestling. A 13-year-old boy said he saw Zimmerman on the ground and heard someone calling for help.

Those cries are audible on one 911 recording. Zimmerman told police that it was him. Lawyers for Martin's family say it was the Miami high school junior.

Near the end of Monday's rally, Sanford City Commissioner Velma Williams sat wearily on a bench. She said she'd tried to convince Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee Jr. several days ago to do something to quiet the growing unrest.

"There's a train coming down the tracks at 75 mph, and it has no brakes," she said she told him. "Now the train is coming at 150 mph, and it has no brakes."

gstutzman@orlandosentinel.com

bprieto@orlandosentinel.com

Orlando Sentinel reporter Amy Pavuk contributed to this report.

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UPDATE 3, 9:30 p.m. EDT, Monday, March 19: Where is Trayvon Martin's cellphone?

When Trayvon Martin was killed, all he had were Skittles, iced tea...and a cellphone, authorities told the L.A. Times. The phone has been mentioned in multiple reports in recent days, and journalists and concerned citizens are starting to ask: Where is Trayvon's phone? Why did the police on the scene of the shooting not use it to identify Martin, or contact his next of kin? "Trayvon's body was bagged and taken to the morgue, where he was tagged as a John Doe," writes African American affairs blogger Sandra Rose. "No one contacted Trayvon's family even though police had Trayvon's cell phone in their possession."

The lack of information about Martin's phone is feeding further skepticism about the police's conduct, and it's led New York Times columnist Charles Blow to start a new meme on Twitter:

 

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he lack of information about Martin's phone is feeding further skepticism about the police's conduct. 
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Okay. Where is it? 
He was labeled as a 'John Doe', and he was not identified for 3 days. The phone had his parents' numbers as well as other contacts. 
Why wasn't it used to identify him? What else does it have on it? Did Zimmerman find it and keep it? 

A rally with HUNDREDS of people turned out in N.Y. today to support that racist child killer being arrested!!  That sounds soooooo much better than just the 75 people who were said to have attended a rally in Florida yesterday!!  Hopefully with Rev. Al showing up tomorrow, the protests will be even BIGGER than it was today!!

 

 

Demonstrators chant in support of slain teenager Trayvon Martin at the Million Hoodies March on March 21, 2012 in New York City.

 

 

Tracy Martin (left in orange shirt), and Sybrina Fulton,(R), parents of slain teenager Trayvon Martin, pray at a Million Hoodies March on March 21, 2012 in New York City.

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March 20, 2012 Posted by URBAN CUSP in GLOBAL MATTERSLIFEOPINIONSRACE AND IDENTITY

When confronted by an armed individual, assume that this person is the police. As such, begin by placing your hands behind your head, fingers interlaced. This will assure that in the eventuality that you are shot and executed, there will be minimum opportunity for analysts and pundits to later ponder if you were the aggressor. Keeping your fingers behind your head is key as it prevents your fingerprints from ending up on your assailant or his weapon. If at all possible, turn your back on the person (whom we will assume always to be the police). In this manner, you will be shot in the back, another telltale sign that you were the victim.

 

You will not survive your encounter, so it is important to remember to show investigators, the courts, and critics alike that you were in fact the victim. This will be difficult as the assumption is ever-present that somehow, in some way, you did something wrong. That perhaps there was something different you could have, should have done. Perhaps you should have worn something different or walked in a less suspicious manner. I assure you, my son, this is not the case. Regardless of your actions, you were not meant to survive. All you can hope for is an easier postmortem investigation. This will be of some comfort to your mother and I as we cope through your loss, and so I ask you to follow these directions carefully.

 

Be clear and concise in your cries for help. This will not in any way add to the chance that you will survive the encounter. Instead, it serves to ensure that bystanders and anyone recording just the audio of the encounter will have a clearer depiction of what is happening. Phrases such as "help me!" are not enough. You must be clear. "Please do not shoot me! I am just a kid!" will alert others to the fact that it is you that is about to be shot, rather than your assailant. "I do NOT have a weapon! Please don't shoot me!" further emphasizes that you are unarmed (for after your death, no one is ever certain).

You may be tempted to avoid such circumstance through excessive precaution. Know that this is futile. You might choose to avoid visiting public spaces such as parks and recreational facilities to minimize your encounters with police. This automatically makes you a suspect, for the one time you do happen across a public space, you will be the unknown, an unfamiliar Black male, and a target for execution. You might also avoid after-school activities, and commute to and from school only with large numbers of people. This too is pointless, for they will come to your school and they will place guns at your temple, under the direction of your principal. Success will not be your shield, as your accomplishments hide not your race. Even with a college education, you will be subject to unreasonable circumstances, and will likely be killed.

 

Most of all, you may try to avoid driving, for this is where you will most likely be stopped, and possibly killed. This may offer some limited comfort. In my teen years, by not having a car I avoided many of the humiliations endured by my cousins and friends. One of my cousins, a doctor whose father is a diplomat, can tell you of the time he was told to get out of his father’s vehicle (which bore a diplomatic license plate) and lie face down, spread eagle on the side of the highway. He was on his way home from a residency interview. The same police officers came to the other side of the van and asked his white brother-in-law if everything was okay.

 

Know that we have already tried to take these precautions for you. We agonized daily over what neighborhood to raise you in and what schools you should attend. We thought about being actively involved in your afterschool activities and your PTA. In the end, we realized none of it mattered. Your greatest achievements will be fluff for your eulogy.

My son, you will die. You will perish at the hands of those who fear you. Your death will be likened to a hunting accident. The best you can hope for is that it is not your body that dies, only your spirit, as has been the case with me, your father. When you are older, you will know that you were never meant to be a man. Your very existence, your lifespan and quality of life, are indeed not determined by a heavenly Father, but by the complex societal trappings that deem you, somehow, to be faulty, potentially dangerous, and ill-equipped to exist on equal footing. My son, how could you ever be a man? My prayer for you is that you will grow to adulthood and you will have a family of your own, but know that even in adulthood (should you ever make it there) manhood is a plateau upon which you will never stand.

 

A man holds at least some sway over his fate, for this is God-given. A man is free to protect his person and his loved ones, for this is just. Most of all, a man is granted autonomy. My son, in this country you were never meant to be a man. From the moment you adjust your behavior to avoid being perceived as a threat (walking with extra precision in a white neighborhood or carefully avoiding walking too close to a white person), you have been stripped of the opportunity to define your own existence, of the opportunity to be a man.

 

You will read that slaves sometimes spared their children from the cruelty of their condition by ending the child's life. It is out of my own vanity that your mother and I could not do this. I need your inevitable suffering to be witnessed by many. I need you to feel the confusion and helplessness I felt everyday growing up, and continue to feel now. At times, I truly felt I was going mad witnessing the consistent assault against and eradication of us. I need you to experience this abomination so that I know I am not riddled with insanity, but that in fact what I have seen over so many years, the clear and concentrated intent to eradicate masculinity from Black males, is real. Perhaps it is merely for selfish reasons that I hoped to have a son, so that I might observe firsthand what has been weighed upon me all these years. For my vanity, for my selfishness, I apologize. You will needlessly suffer in this world for no other reason than you were brought into it by a Black mother and father. All I can leave you with is what Rudyard Kipling wrote to his unborn son:

 

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute
with sixty seconds worth of distance run
Yours is the earth and all that's in it
And what's more you'll be a man my son"

His words are inspiring, but the expanse of their promise is not meant for you. My words to you are much more simple, more appropriate for your lot in life:

Live with humility, that you may die with grace, for this is all we have been allowed on this earth, in this country.

Police chief steps down temporarily over handling of Trayvon Martin case

Bill Lee, chief of police in Sanford, Florida, announces that he will be temporarily stepping down from his position as the investigation into the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is conducted.

Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee Jr. said Thursday that he would temporarily step down from his position over how the Trayvon Martin shooting case was handled.


Police Capt. Scott O'Connor will run the department until an interim chief is appointed, City Manager Norton Bonaparte said.

Lee and his department have come under withering criticism from Martin's family and their supporters, who have demanded the arrest of George Zimmerman in the Feb. 26 incident.

On Wednesday, the Sanford City Commission voted 3-2 that it had no confidence in Lee over how the case has been handled.

Velma Williams, the city’s only black commissioner, said she spent 15 years trying to bring together the black community and white community, and the Martin episode has taken an emotional toll. “And now this. It’s a national embarrassment," she said.

Commissioners Patty Mahany and Randy Jones supported the police chief, who came on the job last May.

"I would not want to see someone tried in the court of public opinion without all the facts," Jones said.

Mayor Jeff Triplett sounded a similar theme, though he voted against Lee. "We only have a very small piece of the puzzle right now," he said.

Commissioners cannot fire Lee, as he reports to City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr.

Amid growing outrage over Trayvon Martin, Sanford's city council passed a vote of no confidence in Police Chief Bill Lee for his handling of the murder investigation. MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell asks Sandford city manager Norton Bonaparte if he plans to fire him. Plus, MSNBC's Al Sharpton weighs in.

Williams implied that if Bonaparte doesn't fire Lee, she would review his contract the next time it comes up for renewal.

More from NBCMiami.com on the no-confidence vote

She nearly fainted after the vote because she became so emotional, and had to be treated by a paramedic.

Residents then took to the podium to say their piece.

"So what does this vote of no confidence mean?" Oscar Reden Jr. asked. "It means that that man right there ... Bonaparte, has to make a choice. You got to make a choice. He works for you!"

Bonaparte said Wednesday that he wanted to wait for the Department of Justice and the Brevard-Seminole State Attorney's Office to finish their investigations before he acts, the Orlando Sentinel reported Wednesday.

Hundreds march in support of Martin family in Miami, New York

The man who fatally shot Miami Gardens teen Martin was not arrested the night of the incident because his self-defense claim “was supported by physical evidence and testimony,” according to Lee.

Police were thus prohibited from arresting Zimmerman, 28, “based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time,” Lee said, as he answered six questions about the case in a statement that was posted on the city's website.

Bonaparte released his statement in response to media attention and “a flood of questions and strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation” about Zimmerman’s shooting of Martin, Bonaparte said.

Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, shot Martin during a confrontation in a gated community in Sanford on Feb. 26. Martin was returning from a 7-Eleven to his father’s girlfriend’s home at The Retreat at Twin Lakes when the shooting happened.

In his explanation, Lee referred to the “stand your ground” provisions of state law. They say that Floridians have the right “to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force" if they feel threatened. Lee pointed to a part of the statute that says “the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.”

'Stand Your Ground' law could complicate Martin case

Lee said that Zimmerman has a concealed weapon permit, so he was authorized and legally able to carry the gun he used to shoot Martin as a neighborhood watch volunteer.

The Sanford City Commission passed a vote of "no confidence" in police Chief Bill Lee Wednesday night over his handling of the Trayvon Martin shooting. Meanwhile, hundreds of demonstrators assembled a "Million Hoodie March" in New York City to call for the arrest of Martin's killer. NBC's Lilia Luciano reports.

Sanford's neighborhood watch handbook, which is also posted on the city's site, says that program participants' main role is to "observe and report suspicious activities" happening in their neighborhood to police.

"What you will not do is get physically involved with any activity you report or apprehension of any suspicious persons. This is the job of the law enforcement agency," it says in bold.

On another page that spells out watch members' responsibilities, the handbook says, "Remember always that your responsibility is to report crime. Do not take any risks to prevent a crime or try to make an arrest. The responsibility for apprehending criminals belongs to the police department."

Zimmerman did not follow those instructions, according to police and Martin's family members and attorneys. Instead, he followed Martin on that night, disregarding a dispatcher's statement that "you don't need to do that," Lee said.

But that suggestion was "not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow," Lee said.

Martin's final phone call with his girlfriend painted a starker picture, according to Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump.

He said that Martin got caught in the rain, put on his hoodie and was running to take cover, and then noticed, as he told his girlfriend, that "this dude is following me."

She told him to be careful and run home, and he momentarily lost Zimmerman. But then he told her that Zimmerman was right behind him again, and she told him to run, Crump said.

"He says 'I'm not gonna run, I'm just gonna walk fast,'" Crump said.

The fatal confrontation that ended Martin's life happened moments later.

Msnbc.com staff contributed to this report from NBCMiami.com.

Thousands attend Sanford rally for Trayvon Martin

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Sanford, Florida -- Thursday evening Reverend Al Sharpton, the President of the National Action Network, was part of a National Rally for Justice in memory of Trayvon Martin. 

The rally was going to be held at a church but it wasn't large enough to accommodate the thousands of people who wanted to attend.  Instead, the event was held near downtown Sanford at Ft. Mellon Park.

Trayvon Martin is the unarmed Black teenager who was shot and killed in a gated community in Sanford nearly a month ago by a White neighborhood watch captain, 28-year-old George Zimmerman.

Despite Rev. Sharpton learning of his mother's death Thursday morning, he told the crowd he had to attend because she would have wanted that.

He said, "One side of me said don't come but the other side of me said my mother raised me to stand up for justice. My mother would have been ashamed of me if I wasn't here. This mother has to bury her son that is unnatural."

Sharpton brought politicians, civil rights activists and celebrities with him and he didn't just talk to the crowd he encouraged them to donate thousands of dollars to Trayvon Martin's family. He said Trayvon's mother and father have missed a lot of work in the days after their son's death and they need financial help.

The crowd slipped checks and cash into bright orange buckets that were passed throughout the crowd. Many of the lawmakers and celebrities donated thousands of dollars from the stage.

Sharpton said, "We're going to finance our own movement."

A hush fell over the crowd and some cried as Trayvon's mother Sybrina Fulton spoke at

the podium. She poured her heart out to the crowd. 

With tears in her eyes Fulton said, "I stand up before you today not knowing how I'm walking right now because my heart hurts for my son. Trayvon is my son. Trayvon is your son. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for all your support."

Many people in the audience wore hoodies while others brought Skittles candies with them.

Reverend Sharpton told the crowd, "You cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don't talk to us like we're stupid. Don't talk to us like we're ignorant. We love our children just like you love yours. Lock him up!"

There were Blacks and Whites at the rally with one goal in mind. They are demanding the arrest of George Zimmerman. U.S.

"What has happened here is not acceptable here, nowhere in Florida, nowhere in the country, and nowhere in the world. I only want one thing and it's real simple. I want an arrest," said Representative Corrine Brown, (D) Florida District 3.

When the crowd started to boo and yell "liar" when Sanford's Mayor, Jeff Triplett, spoke to the crowd giving his condolences to Trayvon's family, Congresswoman Brown asked him to come back to the stage.  She told the crowd to respect Triplett because after a 5-hour meeting with him he agreed to release the 9-1-1 tapes.

She also praised Mayor Triplett for flying out to Washington, D.C. the next day to meet with her and other lawmakers along with the Department of Justice.

Michael Baisden, host of the Michael Baisden Show, told the crowd, "You can lock up Michael Vick for killing dog and we can't get justice for a young black boy. That ain't right."

Civil Rights activist, Martin Luther King, III told the crowd, "This is not a one-day event but we will continue to come until justice is done." 

Organizers of the rally say this is really just the beginning, they plan to attend a city commissioners meeting on Monday, with Baltimore Ravens football player Ray Lewis, retired Hall of Fame NBA player Patrick Ewing and civil rights leader Jesse Jackson.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skittles For TrayvonIn the wake of the growing social media campaign to inundate the Sanford Police Department with Skittles to protest the killing of  17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was armed with a menacing pack of Skittles when he was gunned downed by neighborhood vigilante-murderer, George Zimmerman, a spokesperson for the company has issued a statement regarding the tragedy, reports MSNBC.

 

SEE ALSO: Trayvon Mom: ‘Someone Must Be Punished’

We are deeply saddened by the news of Trayvon Martin’s death and express our sincere condolences to his family and friends. We also respect their privacy and feel it inappropriate to get involved or comment further as we would never wish for our actions to be perceived as an attempt of commercial gain following this tragedy.”

Extremely classy and appropriate statement Skittles. The candy is currently produced and marketed by the Wm. Wrigley Jr. Company, a division of Mars, Inc.

Though there is growing backlash to the campaign, with many concerned supporters saying that the candy will do nothing but provide a snack for the Sanford PD, if you would still like to send an empty pack of Skittles to the police department, send it here:


Bill Lee
Chief of Police
815 West 13th Street
Sanford, Florida 32771
Phone: 407-688-5070
Fax: 407-688-5071






Obama: ‘If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.’

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President Barack Obama

 

 

President Barack Obama made a searingly personal plea on Friday for Americans to come together and do some "soul searching" after the shooting death of African-American Florida teenager Trayvon Martin by a neighborhood watchman, noting: "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."

 

"My main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. And you know, I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and that we're get to the bottom of exactly what happened," Obama said in response to a shouted question in the White House Rose Garden.

 

Amid angry charges that race played a central role in the tragedy, Obama said "all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happenand that means that we examine the laws and the context for what happened as well as the specifics of the incident."

 

The U.S. Justice Department has announced that it's conducting its own investigation into whether Zimmerman, whose father is white and whose mother is from Peru, is guilty of a hate crime by targeting Martin, an African-American, on the basis of his race."I'm the head of the executive branch, and the attorney general reports to me so I've got to be careful about my statements to make sure that we're not impairing any investigation that's taking place right now," the president said.

 

"Obviously this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids. And I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this and that everybody pulls together, federal, state and local to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened," the president said.

 

Obama's comments came just days after his chief spokesman, Jay Carney, had deflected questions about the incident, telling reporters "we're not going to wade into a local law-enforcement matter."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Online Hoodie Photos Show Anger, Solidarity

 

Date: Friday, March 23, 2012, 5:01 am
By: Leanne Italie, Associated Press

 

"I wanted to stand with all the young people who are standing up for justice for Trayvon Martin," said Marian Wright Edelman.

NEW YORK (AP) — The famous and the unsung took to Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr in hooded sweatshirts Thursday in solidarity with the family of a black teenager shot to death by a Hispanic neighborhood watch captain in Florida.

The spontaneous social media effort by dozens came a day after a few hundred people joined the Million Hoodie March on Wednesday night to protest the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

They changed their profile pictures and tweeted photos of themselves wearing hoodies, many also posing the question: "Do I look suspicious?" or using the Twitter hashtag "IAmTrayvonMartin" in a show of frustration and outrage.

Former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm and Marian Wright Edelman, who heads the Children's Defense Fund, joined the fray, which included everyone from grandmothers to a group of law students from Howard University.

"I wanted to stand with all the young people who are standing up for justice for Trayvon Martin," Edelman said in a statement. "I wanted to protest that Walking While Black and wearing a hoodie should lead to a death sentence in America."

No arrests have been made in the case, angering Trayvon's father, Tracy Martin, and the family's supporters.

More than 100 commenters on Facebook cheered the photo posted by Granholm, host of "The War Room" on the progressive cable network Current TV. She served two terms as governor before term limits ended her administration.

"The hoodie is a way of expressing support for the Martin family, and for all the sons of African-American families who bear the heavy burden of other people's negative assumptions," Granholm said in an email.

Trayvon died Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla. He was returning to the home of his father's fiancée in a gated community in the city after buying candy at a convenience store. He was unarmed and was wearing a hoodie.

The neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, has not been charged in the shooting. Zimmerman has said the teen attacked him and he shot him in self-defense.

Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee, who has been excoriated for not arresting Zimmerman, temporarily stepped down Thursday, saying he had become a distraction to the investigation.

Adrienne Garrett, 37, a family and community involvement coordinator for a middle school in St. Petersburg, Fla., said she tweeted herself with dark hood up and bangs peeking out to support Trayvon's mother and family.

"I feel for her," Garrett said. "Being in the school system and seeing these young boys, it's hard for them to go out and be safe without being profiled. It's just frustrating, and it's been going on for years and years."

There are so many people trying to pimp this issue. Mars candy company is making money hand over fist and idiots are giving them their money in the name of protest. Then you have the people who are hosting a Hoodies and Heels event at a night club in Orlando. Everyone is trying to turn a profit on this. If people wanted to help, instead of buying Skittles or a new hoodie send that $1 or $40 to an African American organization of your choice, send the money to the Martin/Fulton family. Stop throwing the money away.

Originally Posted by nuggyt:

Btw, it really has become tiring to say Vick went to prison for killing dogs.  He didn't it was for  Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities and to Sponsor a Dog in an Animal Fighting Venture 

Its so tiring to see your silly points. Basically no matter how the law is dressed up, bottom line is Michael Vick did go to jail for killing dogs through dog fighting on his property, he was held responsible. 

Also fact of the matter is, he went to jail for harming animals, while George Zimmerman is walking free for killing a human.

 

Now if you can justify that, please give it your best shot. Pun intended.

Originally Posted by Yemaya:

"There are so many people trying to pimp this issue. Mars candy company is making money hand over fist and idiots are giving them their money in the name of protest. Then you have the people who are hosting a Hoodies and Heels event at a night club in Orlando. Everyone is trying to turn a profit on this. If people wanted to help, instead of buying Skittles or a new hoodie send that $1 or $40 to an African American organization of your choice, send the money to the Martin/Fulton family. Stop throwing the money away."

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I feel you Yemaya, and you are right.  But, I guess we have to see it as a good omen, in that, as long as people are out there doing Something, or as long a there are people out there trying capitalize on it, the longer what happened to Trayvon, and countless others will stay in the news and on people's minds.

Originally Posted by Yemaya:

There are so many people trying to pimp this issue. Mars candy company is making money hand over fist and idiots are giving them their money in the name of protest. Then you have the people who are hosting a Hoodies and Heels event at a night club in Orlando. Everyone is trying to turn a profit on this. If people wanted to help, instead of buying Skittles or a new hoodie send that $1 or $40 to an African American organization of your choice, send the money to the Martin/Fulton family. Stop throwing the money away.

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This makes a good point to what the lady whose family went on the "Buy Black" campaign wrote in her book and said in her interview that I watched recently .... about "not circulating our Black dollars with the Black community."

 

The makers of Skittles and Hoodies are NOT Black!!  That money is leaving our communities never to return again. 

 

And that IS something we DO need to think about in times like this.

 

However ... I do agree with Sunnubian ... keeping this issue 'front and center' is extremely important!!!  Unfortunately, we had a case here recently where several Houston police officers did a "Rodney King" on a young teenaged boy accused of trying to break into a storage facility.  It took months to get the video of that beating released ... but, it was found that the Mayor, the Police Chief, the DA's office and the court system hid/buried/covered up this tape to protect the officers and themselves.

 

Public outcry made the "Feds" agree to investigate.  There hasn't been one word said about this travesty of justice ever since. 

VERY INTERESTING ..... I was watching an international news program last night .... and they identified Mr. Zimmerman as "half-Hispanic" instead of just "White"!!! 

 

Now ... that was one of the first things I noticed about his picture when I first saw it!!  I thought he was Hispanic, too!!  But, our media only calls him "White." (No doubt because it enhances the sensationalism of the story to make it a 'Black vs. White" thing.  Or maybe it's a 'reverse one-drop-rule' thing (new to the scene) that's now being applied.  Or maybe it's just not supposed to matter. 

 

However .... considering the fact that it's more and more been coming to light that Hispanics really don't like us any better than White people do ... that they're just as violent towards us as White people have always been ... and that their prejudices and stereotypes against us are just as strong ... aside from the fact that we don't need that kind of 'race war' jumping off here right now ... (we have enough problems as it is! ) ....

 

I'm wondering if we shouldn't be a little more concerned about this??  We're blaming the old, tried-and-true, Black vs. White 'race war' for what happened .. but, in reality, the facts are a lot less 'cut-and-dried' than they appear to be.  And we (Black people) may not be dealing with or seeing this situation as it truly is.

Black people have GOT to REALIZE and ACCEPT that American/Western White racist have thoroughly brainwashed and socially conditioned EVERY race of people on earth to either hate Black people or believe that they should hate Black people or believe that they are somehow superior to Black people.  

 

In Zimmerman's case, I believe that he had some obsession with being a cop wannabee, and I believe that since he is "half-White" (now that Jews are considered White in this country), he was trying to get a pat on the head from White people by showing that he is racist against Black people, as it is with all other minorities in America that have some 'hatred' for Black people.  

 

Funny, how the majority of Black people in America don't really even know any or many other minorities, even Latinos/Hispanics in a lot of parts of the country, yet, even though non of these minorities have ever really had any contact with or problem from any Black people, they somehow do not like Black people.  That alone tells you that Racist Whites have socially conditioned these people with their media/Hollywood stereotyping propaganda machine to feel that way in the first place.  It also tells anyone with any sense, that people who blindly jump on someone's bandwagon of hatred against another group for no other reason than to get brownie points or as a virtual beg for those people with all the hatred to like or accept them, they, themselves have a problem and should not be trusted any farther than you can see and hear them.  

 

Another thing, in my opinion is that most of the minorities that come to this country that automatically side with racist against Black people, usually come from countries where they have been under oppressive governments or religious dogma for so long that it is all they know, i.e., bow down to and kiss the ass of the one(s) that have the power, and in this case, would be White people in America, many of whom are racists against Black people.

 

The reason that what I have said is true is the fact that even though any given minority in America that has had some problem with a Black person or even some Black people, out of the 40+Million Black people in this country, they always come away with some 'hatred' for or 'dislike' or 'disrespect' for ALL Black people because of it.  However, these same people many of whom come from countries that America/the West/White people has/have inflicted devastating harm on or attempted to take over their country, and/or had their people living as servants to Whites in their own land or were treated by Westerners the same way that Black people were at one time treated in this country, these same minorities will come to this country and attempt to perpetrate the same racism and hatred, etc., on Blacks that those same Whites have on their own people at one time or another in history:

 

North and South America:

We all know the affect of Imperialism on these continents


Japan:  

Hiroshima 

Japan forced to enter into trade with the United States on behalf of the U.S. government

forced to sign a treaty permitting trade and the opening of Japanese ports to U.S. merchant ships


          

China:  

The British forced China to open itself to the Opium trade in the 1840's

i.e., the British bogarded China in order to take over their Opium Trade(can you say Afghanistan?) 

 

 

Middle East:

"The Middle East, a region of substantial wealth and resources at the turn of the 19th century became a prime target.

The British and French practiced a foreign policy throughout the Middle East that not only disrupted the economies of the said countries, but created a system whereby the European powers extracted raw materials and opened markets throughout the region. The system was protected through political diplomacy which took place under the shadow of British and French military forces."

 

India:

Ruled by the British for 90 years . . .

 

Africa:

We all know what happened to Africa, and why, and what is still happening to Africa.

 

 

 

In other words:  and, other minorities have the nerve to hate Black people?

 

I have been trying to post an ABC (local) News video where the reporter states that Trayvon made a 911 call himself right before he died.  I don't know why its not taking the embed code now, but the website is:  http://abclocal.go.com/wls/html5/video?id=8593399&pid=null&section=null
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally Posted by sunnubian:

Black people have GOT to REALIZE and ACCEPT that American/Western White racist have thoroughly brainwashed and socially conditioned EVERY race of people on earth to either hate Black people or believe that they should hate Black people or believe that they are somehow superior to Black people.  

 

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This is true!!!  But I would also add that, unfortunately, it's not JUST Americans ... or JUST in America where Black people are vilified, devalued, degraded, or discriminated against.

 

It is all over the world.  And even in AFRICA.

 

In the countries where these other minorities come from to America, the Black/African-descended people are ALWAYS considered on the bottom rung, second-class citizens ... where they lack rights or a political voice or even the human respect not to be tortured and abused.  The Black citizens in their countries are always the majority of the poverty and illiteracy rates.  They're the section of the citizenry that nobody cares about or respects or are afforded civil rights.

 

In Mexico, all down through South America, Africa, Asia (remember the story of the half-Black, half-Asian teenaged singer who won a TV show competition but was called racial slurs by the press that hurt her little feelings??), Europe (they just had a Trayvon Martin moment not too long ago that resulted in violent protest and rioting) ... it doesn't matter WHERE you go!!

 

The Black population there is marginalized.  And so these people come over here with ALREADY negative preconceived notions.  And the White supremacy machine only reinforces already-unjustified racial hatred and attitudes against us as African Americans through the images seen on TV and in videos. and things like the proliferation of racist laws that cause unjustified high incarceration rates among our people.

 

The United States is probably the most advanced when it comes to Black civil rights ... as helluv scary as that may sound!! 

 

@ Ebony Rose.  You are sooooo right my sista.  America is extremely advance in its thinking with it relates to black people.  And that’s because, despite its ongoing racism, it is evolving into a consciousness that includes all people-a real life reflection of what the world truly is.  And black people set the stage for that.  Not so for other countries who continue to struggle with human rights as if they are above being human-this just shows how inhumane, primitive in their thinking....many folks in other countries are.  Totally unfortunate.  Cuz as long as they continue to be this way....they will continue to have an intellectual blockage that will affect their social development and they will have to continue to look for other countries for human advancement:  in technological, quality of life, literacy and just pure awareness of what’s going on in the world.  These folks will continue to trapped with their savage mindset that says it is okay to enslave, encroach, mistreat and bully another human being simple cuz they do not WANT to evolve out that simpleton flintstone mentality [that’s  thousands of years old]that continues to burden their progress and growth.  History shows as long as we have folks in other countries with blind eyes...they will NEVER see the light of freedom....that includes freedom for themselves as human beings.  But! This won’t last too much longer, cuz we are currently experiencing the shift.  It’s here.  But!   

 

BTW:  I'm sooooooo glad to see such an outpour.  Even though I did my part on this young man's behalf, I have deliberately stayed in the back ground of this cuz it is a deep reminder of what happened to my son-making it extremely difficult to engage in the convo on this forum.  However, I am totally speechless and grateful at the same time that currently black folks [especially-thank God!] didn't turn their heads the other way and say that's the way of the world as some usually do.  Trayvon represents ALL young black men[young women too] who were killed for years as a result of stupidity, arrogance, the mental illness of racism and societal avoidance.   This is the spark that will finally STOP the senseless killings of our youth.  Again.  Finally!  But! 

  Oh...yall know I am completely happy that my President acknowledge the tragedy of Trayvon Martin.  His personal statement by saying "if I had a son, he would look like Trayon," assures me of the dynamic-in-touch-with-what's-going-on-in-HIS-country type of President he is.  Yall naysayers can say whatcha want....but!  This is testimony of how remarkable this man is in light of what the media and the haters may say...his comments loudly indicates that he is STILL a black man...first!  And understands the depth of the murder of Trayvon.  As I understand it.  We may never have another opportunity like this to have a black president....but!  I am SOOOOOOOO glad he is my president NOW! So glad.      

Trayvon Martin Shooter Told Cops Teenager Went For His Gun

(SANFORD, Fla.) — George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written statement that Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a police source told ABC News.

Zimmerman had claimed he had called police about Martin, whom he found suspicious, then went back to his car when Martin attacked him, punching him.

The new information is the most complete version yet of what Zimmerman claims happened on the night of Feb. 26 when he shot and killed the teenager.

In addition, an eyewitness, 13-year-old Austin Brown, told police he saw a man fitting Zimmerman’s description lying on the grass moaning and crying for help just seconds before he heard the gunshot that killed Martin.

The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning. He was not arrested.

Martin’s girlfriend had said in a recording obtained exclusively by ABC News that she heard Martin ask Zimmerman “why are your following me, and then the man asked, what are you doing around here.” She then heard a scuffle break out and the line went dead.

Phone records obtained by ABC News show that the girl, who is 16 and asked to remain anonymous, called Martin at 7:12 p.m., five minutes before police arrived, and remained on the phone with Martin until moments before he was shot.

ABC News has also learned that Martin was staying in Sanford at the time because he’d been suspended from Krop High School in Miami after being found with an empty bag of marijuana. He was staying at his father’s fiancé’s house in Sanford.

Family spokesperson Ryan Julison confirmed to ABC News that Martin was suspended for an “empty baggy that had contained pot.”

“It’s irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not left his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher’s guidance, we wouldn’t be here today,” Julison said.

During Zimmerman’s call to 911, the dispatcher asked him if he was following the teen. When Zimmerman replied that he was, the dispatcher said, “We don’t need you to do that.”

The new information in the emotionally charged case could complicate pressing charges against Zimmerman.

Zimmerman shot Martin dead the night of Feb. 26 after following him for several minutes. Zimmerman told police Martin looked suspicious because he was wearing a hoodie, and when he confronted him the two fought — ultimately resulting in a single bullet in Martin’s chest.

Zimmerman claimed self defense and this weekend the lawyer counseling him, Craig Sonner, told ABC News that he was likely to invoke Florida’s controversial stand-your-ground law in his defense.

The law affords people leeway to use deadly force if they feel their life is seriously endangered. Sonner said Zimmerman felt “one of them was going to die that night,” when he pulled the trigger.

ABC News has learned there is tremendous pressure from local and state authorities for an arrest.

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Originally Posted by Yemaya:

"Now you know I don't believe that for one moment."

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Neither do I, Yemaya.  Zimmerman and the police had THREE DAYS to make up lies for him, you know, the THREE DAYS that Trayvon's body lay in the morgue and Trayvon's cell phone was in possession of the police, as his father repeatedly called, over and over and over, and not one time did the police call a single number in Trayvon's phone to try to locate and notify his parents of his demise, as if the dog catcher had picked up a dead dog on the streets. 

 

So, I'm wondering why is Zimmerman the only name we keep hearing, when the officers that arrived at the scene should be terminated and charged with Obstruction of Justice.

 

What happened to Trayvon was a Lynching.

 

Melissa Harris-Perry mocks Geraldo's comments with 'dress code for black safety'

 
Melissa Harris-Perry mocks Geraldo's comments with 'dress code for black safety'
 

Melissa Harris-Perry. (MSNBC)

Melissa Harris-Perry didn't take kindly to Geraldo Rivera's remarks on the death of Trayvon Martin. On her show Saturday, Harris-Perry's commentary took a turn toward the sarcastic when she debuted her "MHP Dress Code for Black Safety" in response to Rivera's assertion that Martin's hooded sweatshirt was as much to blame for his death as, George Zimmerman, the shooter.

WATCH THE SEGMENT OF THE 'MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY' PROGRAM:

 

She began with an image of the sitcom character Steve Urkel then gave advice on what young black men should wear to avoid trouble. The rap song "Colors" by Ice-T dictated her rule to avoid gang-associated red and blue. Harris-Perry's home state of Louisiana provided another rule: no sagging pants. She detailed laws in La. towns and other places in the American South that have racked up thousands of dollars in fines.

 

Ga. city gets nearly $4,000 from sagging pants ban

"Last but not least are those pesky hoodies," said Harris-Perry. "That's a no-no for MHP's guide to black safety."

 

After showing the clip of Rivera's statements, Perry sarcastically agreed, saying that if young men want to "play it safe" they should dress like Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates -- who wasarrested on his own porch in Cambridge, Massachusetts after a neighbor reported a possible break-in to police.

Now these fakes, the man posing as a lawyer for George Zimmerman and his so called friend Joe Oliver, have been exposed as such. I wonder where they came from and who was paying them to do this OR are they justCRAZY. The press should've done an EXTENSIVE background check on these two clowns. Apparently there are no lengths Americans won't go through to discredit Black people. Be AWARE.

 

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Now for those of you who claim confusion about the guilt of this man. Listen to this cock and bull story about what George Zimmerman said. Joe Oliver says that he said "Goon" and not "Coon" and that Goon is a term of endearment. Now tell me why would you call someone a 'f*kcing Goon' a term of endearment while you in the same breath tell the police that they are suspicious and make comments like 'they always get away', before you shoot them to death because you are afraid for your life.  This is the conservative way of spinning this. We need to use our critical thinking skills at this point. Clearly this man is guilty. There are no hospital records to substantiate any of Zimmerman's injuries. The police did a piss poor job and should be held accountable for their failings and George Michael Zimmerman should be in jail and these sell outs Joe Oliver and Craig Sonner should be exposed and jailed for some type of fraud.

 

 

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Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted Manslaughter Charge

 

The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.

But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.

Police brought Zimmerman into the station for questioning for a few hours on the night of the shooting, said Zimmerman's attorney, despite his request for medical attention first. Ultimately they had to accept Zimmerman's claim of self defense. He was never charged with a crime.

Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.

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Originally Posted by roarin1:

Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted Manslaughter Charge

 

The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.

But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.

Police brought Zimmerman into the station for questioning for a few hours on the night of the shooting, said Zimmerman's attorney, despite his request for medical attention first. Ultimately they had to accept Zimmerman's claim of self defense. He was never charged with a crime.

Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.

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You know what, this is how this incident is going to go down. Because the police failed to act in collecting evidence or photos from the scene and just completely messed up the investigation, George Michael Zimmerman most likely will not be charged with a crime. This is the conclusion I've come to. So this case will have to be handled by the federal government. Consequently I believe that they too will come up and say that they don't have enough evidence.

Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman

PHOTO: Trayvon Martin, 17, was fatally shot by neighborhood watch leader George Zimmerman.
 

 

 

 

A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain who says he shot Martin after he was punched in the nose, knocked down and had his head slammed into the ground.

The surveillance video, which was obtained exclusively by ABC News, shows Zimmerman arriving in a police cruiser. As he exits the car, his hands are cuffed behind his back. Zimmerman is frisked and then led down a series of hallways, still cuffed.

Zimmerman, 28, is wearing a red and black fleece and his face and head are cleanly shaven. He appears well built, hardly the portly young man depicted in a 2005 mug shot that until a two days ago was the single image the media had of Zimmerman.

Police Video Surveillance of George Zimmerman

The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning.

His lawyer later insisted that Zimmerman's nose had been broken in his scuffle with 17-year-old Martin.

In the video an officer is seen pausing to look at the back of Zimmerman's head, but no abrasions or blood can be seen in the video and he did not check into the emergency room following the police questioning.

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Zimmerman was not arrested although ABC News has learned that the lead homicide investigator filed an affidavit urging Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter. The prosecutor, however, told the officer to not file the charge because there was not enough evidence for conviction.

Zimmerman said he was heading back to his car when Martin attacked him. His lawyer, Craig Sonner, said his client felt "one of them was going to die that night," when he pulled the trigger.

Martin's girlfriend, who was on the phone with him in his final moments, told ABC News in an exclusive interview that she has not been interviewed by police, despite Martin telling her he was being followed.

The 16-year-old girl, who is only being identified as DeeDee, recounted the final moments of her conversation with Martin before the line went dead.

"When he saw the man behind him again he said this man is going to do something to him. And then he said this man is still behind him and I said run," she said.

Phone records obtained by ABC News show that the girl called Martin at 7:12 p.m., five minutes before police arrived, and remained on the phone with Martin until moments before he was shot.

DeeDee said Martin turned around and asked Zimmerman why he was following him.

"The man said what are you doing around here?" DeeDee recalled Zimmerman saying.

She said she heard someone pushed into the grass before the call was dropped.

Zimmerman, who had called 911, was asked by the dispatcher if he was following the teen. When Zimmerman replied that he was, the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that."

Martin's death has sparked protests across the country and prompted President Obama to say that if he had a son, he would look like Martin.

Over the past few days, leaks have emerged suggesting Martin was dogged by discipline problems.

Martin had been slapped with a 10 day school suspension after a bag with suspected marijuana was found in his backpack, Benjamin Crump, the family's attorney, said.

Last year the teen was suspended for spraying graffiti on school grounds. The Miami Herald reported that the school guard who stopped him searched his backpack and found 12 items of women's jewelry and a flathead screw driver that the guard believed to be a "burglary implement." But Martin was never charged or specifically disciplined for the incident.

Crump alleged that the Sanford police had leaked damaging information about Martin in order to muddy the case, calling it a "conspiracy." Crump called the school disciplinary problems "irrelevant" to the case that "an unarmed 17 year kid was killed."

 

 

 

I'm so glad to see we're keeping the heat on this case. I just hope we don't get weary and loose interest. If you haven't signed a legal petition, do it. If you can avoid buying products from Florida, do it. If you can donate funds to the Martin family legal team, do it.

 

Now, assholes shooting off their mouth saying Trayvon must of had a gun or weapon of some kind is BS. Fuck You! You're no better than Zimmerman. If this were the case the pigs in Sanford would reveal this evidence in a matter of minutes. It's been over a month. There was no weapon. This sad and tragic case is another example why we will always have to fight hard to get anything in this damn country, let alone justice. These die hard "try to fit in" minorites with their "cant beat em join em" mentality are the main reason why AAs are marginalized. The only way this law will be changed is when minorities with valid gun permits walk around and start killing the self righteous gun toters for "standing their ground" and claiming self defense while using the very law they are protecting against them. Only then will you see an ammendment to that ridiculous law. It never fails as soon as AAs use the same laws in any way to benefit us, then all of a sudden "we need to change the law". We see it everywhere; voters laws, tax laws, social programs etc. It never ends and I'm sick of it! And people please stop regurgitating the medias chariacterzation of Zimmerman being white. The only thing white about Zimmerman is his psychosis - his mentality is that of a white supremacist. This murderer looks like the typical hispanic of mexican decent I see everyday in Southern California. And believe me when i say many hispanics are just as bad if not worse than whites pertaining to their own colorism and negative attitudes towards AAs. Apologist want to excuse this illness on the underclass black and brown street culture. Truth of the matter is hispanic racism toward AAs permeates from the streets to executive personell. 


"These die hard "try to fit in" minorites with their "cant beat em join em" mentality are the main reason why AAs are marginalized."

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This is it exactly!

 

Minorities in this country, particularly, recent immigrants, believe that houseniggering to Whites in America is what it takes for them to make it or be accepted by Whites in America.  What they fail to realize is, White people that are racist will NEVER REALLY accept them anymore than those types of Whites will accept Blacks.  These type minorities confuse being a White person's 'pet minority' or a White person's 'curio' with being accepted by White people.  Of course, they are gullible and willing enough actually believe White people when they tell them that they will be accepted if they too hate Black people, act racist toward Black people, and have nothing to do with Black people.  All the while, it is White people that do not want them in this country, that are protesting immigrants being here (under the guise of protesting 'illegal immigration'), and it is White people that are voting in office as many politicians as they can that will make life hard for minorities, immigrants, illegal or not.  It is White people that hold Legislative positions in America where they vote against any and all legislation that will help minorities in America and legislation that will assist or allow any amnesty to illegal immigrants.  It  is the very White people whose ass these minorities love to kiss that are trying to strike down any laws, or policies already in place that may assist immigrants in America, especially those not legally citizens of America.  It is White people in America that have time after time vilified one minority group after another, including Latinos/Hispanics.  Yet, it is Black people that these minorities have a desire to discriminate against, disassociate themselves from, and to go after with violence.

 

I'm hard pressed to see what White butt kissing has done for these minorities in America lately.  

 

And, don't get me wrong now, I'm not implying that ALL minorities in America should be our friends, hang out with Black people, or whatever, all I'm saying is that THEY need to to leave US the hell alone in their quest to kiss White ass in America, and that goes double where our children are concerned.

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George Zimmerman’s “black friend,” Joe Oliver appeared on MSNBC’s The Last Word to once again defend Zimmerman’s honor. Ever since this man stepped forward on Zimmerman’s behalf, I’ve been so confused as to why he even has anything to do with the Trayvon Martin murder case.

Oliver doesn’t know how to answer questions and it’s mostly because he’s exaggerating his connection to Zimmerman. He’s explained why he’s sticking his neck out like this for the neighborhood watchman turned murderer and even that reasoning is ridiculous. So here’s five quotes from Joe Oliver that make you say, “WTF?”

1. “I am not working right now, as I am trying to help George. No one is paying me to do this for George. I’ve been trying to contact George in order to offer my help because of my experience in the media.”

 

2. “Whatever happened with George before I met him–for me, that’s irrelevant. Because whatever happened before I met him, he grew immensely to be a kind, caring and giving individual.”

3. “Being an African American male and trying to understand what’s going on with George’s involvement with this and my experience. First of all, I had to ask myself, ‘What am I going to do for this person that I consider as a friend. I was going to go off with just the information that was being fed out there that all we knew about what happened–which, if I didn’t know George Zimmerman, I’d be outraged myself.”

4. “I’m not a stupid man either. I know what I’m putting myself up against. I know the reprecussions of this. I’m stepping forward for George because this is not a racial incident. I’m stepping forward for George because of how it has ignited all the racial tension we’ve had here for years. I understand everything that everybody is out there marching about because I’ve experienced it myself. I wouldn’t put myself on the line like this if I didn’t know that George Zimmerman was in a life or death struggle…Have you ever had a gut feeling?”

5. “There’s a lot of parts of this country where people call themselves ‘coon asses,’ like in Louisiana. I don’t know too many people, younger than 40, who use that term [coon] as a racial slur. I’ve been informed by my 17 year-old daughter that the term ‘goon’ is a term of endearment amongst peers.”

What do you think about Joe Oliver’s involvement with George Zimmerman? Let’s discuss on Twitter@Rhapsodani.

 

 

 

 

It was interesting to see all of these distractions, Craig Sonner the lawyer, Taffe the man who lived in the gated community, Joe Oliver the paid publicist, even Robert Zimmerman Jr. & Sr. all come to the defense of a murderer George Zimmerman. All of that mess that they put into the consciousness of the world.

Now  "When will George Zimmerman be arrested??" is the only question I want positive action on. I honestly don't give a damn what other foolishness the media has going on. Just arrest him and take it to the courts.

My Son Doesn’t Look Like Trayvon

 

by Dan Cantor

 

You’ve heard the story already.  A young, unarmed black man was shot and killed, in a place he had every right to be. The tears of parents and friends flow.

But I’m not talking about the murder of Trayvon Martin in Florida. This story is closer to home.

 

A few weeks before Trayvon was killed, Ramarley Graham was killed in the Bronx. He was all of 18. The NYPD saw a black teenager “adjusting his waistband,” saw something that seemed to their eyes suspicious, and ended up chasing him into his own home. He was shot to death attempting to flush a bag of marijuana down the toilet. The police thought he had a gun. But like Trayvon Martin in Florida, Ramarley Graham was unarmed.

 

I’m a 56 year-old white man with a 20 year-old son. My son spent his high school years traveling around New York City at all hours, and never once was he stopped and frisked. He always wore hoodies. I always told him to “keep safe,” but if I’m telling the truth, it never occurred to me to worry that he might be stopped and questioned and frisked. I never thought for a second that he might fall victim to a police “mistake.” And I never gave him a lecture about how to be deferential to the police. Not so for black and brown parents. Every parent loves and wants to protect his children, but the ability to do so is not equal.

 

One of the reasons that we created the WFP was to tell the truth, as we saw it, about our society and economy. The truth is, Trayvon Martin’s death wasn’t an isolated act of vigilantism. And Ramarley Graham didn’t die because of a mistake. They died because we live in a nation where young men of color are stopped, and sometimes killed, because somebody decides they look suspicious. It is hardly news to say this, and of-color leaders and activists across the country are mobilizing with a sense of anger and righteousness that is entirely warranted. But what is new and welcome is that more and more white people are reminded or learning for the first time what the persistent existence of the color line means to millions of our fellow Americans.

It’s two different worlds. If a middle-class white teenager visiting his father were shot to death by an African- American “neighborhood watch” leader, would an arrest be likely? Or, as in Florida, would the shooter walk free and be allowed to keep his concealed carry permit?

 

Public safety is crucial to every community — black, white, Latino, Asian — and we need a vigilant, well-trained police force. But there is a law-and-order culture in our nation that has crossed the line. The dominant society is afraid of young of-color men, and instead of asking ourselves why and what might be done about it, we endorse policies that keep the problem under control. Until it isn’t.

 

In New York City, Police Commissioner Kelly defends his policies aggressively. He argues that “stop, question and frisk” has taken guns off the street. He says that it has helped reduced crime, and that communities of color are the main beneficiaries.

 

But Kelly’s line of argument is a dead-end. It’s a vision of a society that will never deal with racism – not just the individual prejudice and preconceptions of the Florida “watchman,” but the ingrained structures of a society in which life chances are determined at birth. It’s not Kelly’s fault; we ask the police to deal with problems the rest of us want to ignore. We have decided that there is no way for our society to create job opportunities, education and healthy families that will set young men down a promising path to adulthood, so we focus immense resources on policing and jailing them instead. We stop-and-frisk because we aren’t able to educate-and-employ.

 

There are a lot of young men growing up in tough circumstances, but – again, let’s tell the truth – it seems toughest in the black community. Deindustrialization. Residential segregation. The lure of the informal economy. A prison-industrial complex that requires ever more prisoners and lobbies for absurdly harsh sentencing laws. It’s a toxic combination, and the results are not surprising: there are now more African-American men in prison or on parole than were held as slaves. America’s “original sin” has not been expiated.

 

This is a serious challenge. At the Working Families Party, we spend much of our  energy on the shared interests of people of all races. We ask working-class and middle-class people – white and of-color, citizen and immigrant – to unite and work together. We want a society in which all people have a chance at a decent, productive life. That means excellent schools, jobs that pay living wages, parents with the time and inner resources to raise healthy children, taxes that stop the obscene selfishness that now characterizes American society. But we’re kidding ourselves if we don’t acknowledge the serious and exceptional problems faced by of-color Americans.

 

New York City Council Members Jumaane Williams, Melissa Mark Viverito and Brad Lander have concrete proposals to reform stop-and-frisk that deserve support. And it may sound utopian, but Mayor Bloomberg should convene public hearings in which young people, beat cops, social scientists, employers, unions and elected leaders come and testify about their experience and their ideas on ways to reduce crime and increase opportunity. It won’t be perfect, but it can be a step forward.

The killings of Trayvon Martin and Ramarley Graham and too many others to name are a stain on our nation’s honor. Let’s learn from it, and act on it.

 

Dan Cantor is the Executive Director of the Working Families Party

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Playing the Violence Card

<h6 class="byline">By KHALIL GIBRAN MUHAMMAD</h6><h6 class="dateline">Published: April 5, 2012</h6>

 

EVER since the culture wars of the 1980s, Americans have been familiar with “the race card” — an epithet used to discredit real and imagined cries of racism. Less familiar, however, is an equally cynical rhetorical tactic that I call “the violence card.”

Here’s how it works. When confronted with an instance of racially charged violence against a black person, a commentator draws attention to the fact that there is much more black-on-black violence than white-on-black violence. To play the violence card — as many criminal-justice advocates have done since the Rodney King police brutality case of the early 1990s — is to suggest that black people should worry more about the harm they do to themselves and less about how victimized they are by others.

The national outrage over the Trayvon Martin case has prompted some recent examples. Last week, the journalist Juan Williams wrote in The Wall Street Journal of the “tragedy” of Trayvon’s death but wondered “what about all the other young black murder victims? Nationally, nearly half of all murder victims are black. And the overwhelming majority of those black people are killed by other black people.” During a debate about the case on Sunday on an ABC News program, the commentator George F. Will argued that the “root fact” is that “about 150 black men are killed every week in this country — and 94 percent of them by other black men.”

For Mr. Williams, Mr. Will and countless others playing the violence card, the real issue has little to do with racist fears or police practices — even though those would seem to be the very issues at hand.

It’s true that black-on-black violence is an exceptionally grave problem. But this does not explain the allure of the violence card, which perpetuates the reassuring notion that violence against black people is not society’s concern but rather a problem for black people to fix on their own. The implication is that the violence that afflicts black America reflects a failure of lower-class black culture, a breakdown of personal responsibility, a pathological trait of a criminally inclined subgroup — not a problem with social and institutional roots that needs to be addressed through collective effort well beyond the boundaries of black communities.

But perhaps the large scale of black-on-black violence justifies playing the violence card? Not if you recall how Americans responded to high levels of white-on-white violence in the past.

Consider the crime waves of 1890 to 1930, when millions of poor European immigrants came to America only to be trapped in inner-city slums, suffering the effects of severe economic inequality and social marginalization. Around the turn of the century, the Harvard economist William Ripley described the national scene: “The horde now descending upon our shores is densely ignorant, yet dull and superstitious withal; lawless, with a disposition to criminality.” But the solution, Ripley argued, was not stigma, isolation and the promotion of fear. “They are fellow passengers on our ship of state,” he wrote, “and the health of the nation depends upon the preservation of the vitality of the lower classes.”

As a spokesman for saving white immigrant communities from the violence within, Ripley was part of a national progressive movement led by Jane Addams, the influential social worker of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. In the face of grisly, gang-related youth shootings — “duplicated almost every morning,” Addams wrote — she insisted that everyone from the elite to community organizers to police officers had a part to play.

She and other progressives mobilized institutional resources to save killers and the future victims of killers. Violent white neighborhoods were flooded with social workers, police reformers and labor activists committed to creating better jobs and building a social welfare net. White-on-white violence fell slowly but steadily in proportion to economic development and crime prevention.

In almost every way the opposite situation applied to black Americans. Instead of provoking a steady dose of compassionate progressivism, crime and violence in black communities fueled the racist belief that, as numerous contemporaries stated, blacks were their “own worst enemies” — an early version of the violence card. Black people were “criminalized” through various institutions and practices, whether Southern chain gangs, prison farms, convict lease camps and lynching bees or Northern anti-black neighborhood violence and race riots.

Racial criminalization has continued to this day, stigmatizing black people as dangerous, legitimizing or excusing white-on-black violence, conflating crime and poverty with blackness, and perpetuating punitive notions of “justice” — vigilante violence, stop-and-frisk racial profiling and mass incarceration — as the only legitimate responses.

But the past does not have to be the future. The violence card is a cynical ploy that will only contribute to more fear, more black alienation and more violence. Rejecting its skewed logic and embracing a compassionate progressive solution for black crime is our best hope for saving lives and ensuring that young men like Trayvon Martin do not die in vain.

Khalil Gibran Muhammad, director of the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture at the New York Public Library, is the author of “The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime, and the Making of Modern Urban America.”

Trayvon Martin: The Latest, Week 5

Trayvon Martin: The Latest, Week 5
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Friday, April 6, 9:20 a.m. EDT: College students to begin 40-mile march: A coalition of Florida college students from Tallahassee, Gainesville, Miami and Orlando will spend the next three days marching about 40 miles between Daytona Beach and Sanford to protest the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. The group, which calls itself the Dream Defenders, said the march is a "stand against racial profiling, institutional racism and the legacy of violence that continues to plague young people of color," the Orlando Sentinelreports. It's scheduled to begin at 2 p.m. on Friday.

 

Thursday, April 5, 1:57 p.m. EDT: Audio expert says Zimmerman said "punks," not "coons": A forensic audio expert who analyzed 911 recordings disagrees with speculation that George Zimmerman uttered a racial slur moments before shooting Trayvon Martin to death, CNN reports. The word uttered was "punks," not "coons," according to the conclusion reached by Tom Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence.

 

Thursday, April 5, 9:23 a.m. EDT: Rallies continue; new defense lawyer hired: While protests and rallies continued in Miami and Tallahassee, Fla., demanding an arrest and murder charges, the teen's shooter, George Zimmerman, bolstered his legal defense by hiring another veteran attorney to represent him, the Miami Herald reports.

 

Wednesday, April 4, 12:05 p.m. EDT: CBC introduces resolution calling for justice: Members of the Congressional Black Caucus, led by Chairman Emanuel Cleaver and Reps. Alcee Hastings, Corrine Brown and Frederica Wilson, introduced a congressional resolution today on the death of Trayvon Martin and the controversial gun laws surrounding his death. In comments on H. Res. 612, Cleaver said, "As the Department of Justice continues its thorough investigation into Trayvon Martin's untimely death, it is time for us as legislators to look at the troubling 'Stand your ground' law, which has enabled George Zimmerman to remain free. To honor Trayvon's life and protect others, it is imperative that we shine a light on this controversial, dangerous and sometimes deadly law that has been adopted in over 20 states, to protect our communities and the integrity of  our nation's legal system."

 

Wednesday, April 4, 10:03 a.m. EDT: NBC apologizes for Zimmerman tape editing: NBC has apologized for an error in the production process that caused the Today show to misrepresent a segment of George Zimmerman's conversation with a 911 operator, the Washington Post reports. The program portrayed that conversation as follows:

 

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

The conversation that actually took place was:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy -- is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.


Wednesday, April 4, 9 a.m. EDT: Too much coverage? More Republicans and whites say yes: A majority of Republicans say the media coverage of the Trayvon Martin slaying has been excessive, and 43 percent of whites say it's gone overboard, according to a new survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, the Los Angeles Times reports. The survey found that 56 percent of Republicans are fed up with the amount of coverage. By contrast, 25 percent of Democrats (and 33 percent of Democrats who identify themselves as white) surveyed say there has been too much coverage.

 

Meanwhile, 16 percent of African Americans polled say they've had enough.

 

Tuesday, April 3, 9:50 a.m. EDT: Enhanced Zimmerman video shows possible head wound: ABC Newsreports that a newly enhanced version of surveillance video from the night Trayvon Martin was shot in Sanford more clearly shows a possible gash or injury on the back of shooter George Zimmerman's head.

 

Monday, April 2, 12:30 p.m. EDT: Recordings reveal ambulance for Zimmerman was canceled: On a recording of a fire-rescue dispatch from the night Trayvon was killed, a rescue worker says, "You can cancel the second rescue," adding that the second patient, Zimmerman, didn't have a gunshot wound. A Martin family spokesperson says that the new information is just another reason Zimmerman should be arrested, WKMG Orlando reports.

 

Monday, April 2, 9:05 a.m. EDT: Clinton hopes case leads to reappraisal of "Stand your ground" laws:In an interview with ABC News, former President Bill Clinton called Trayvon Martin's death an "incredible personal tragedy" but also a reason to re-examine the Florida legislation at the center of the case. "So I hope this will lead to a reappraisal of the 'Stand your ground' laws," President Clinton said, "and I hope that the truth will come out and that the tragedy of this young man's loss will not be in vain. It's just terrible. Whatever the facts were -- all these people trying to jump on him and talking about some mistake he made in his life -- that's irrelevant because unarmed person who was killed on the street by a gun. And so I hope justice will be done in this case, but I hope that the larger justice that would somehow redeem a portion of this terrible loss."

 

Read more of The Root's coverage of the Trayvon Martin case here.


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(Evidently, they have already made a decision to NOT charge Zimmerman):


 

 

 

City of Sanford prepares for response to George Zimmerman decision

Zimmerman shot, killed Trayvon Martin in February

Published On: Apr 05 2012 06:11:38 PM EDT  Updated On: Apr 05 2012 08:08:06 PM EDT

Sanford preps for decision on Zimmerman

SANFORD, Fla. -

 

The city of Sanford is preparing for the outcome of the special prosecutor's decision about George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watchman who shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin but has not been charged.

 

Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett said on Thursday that the city's emergency management team has met regularly with the U.S Department of Justice to construct a plan. Officials said extra police officers and fire department officials are on standby. Neighboring agencies have also been asked to assist, if needed.

 

"You always prepare for the worst and hope for the best," Triplett said. "We're planning for the 'what-if' case scenario, and that would be to make sure that all of our citizens get the protection they pay their taxes for."

 

Triplett noted that previous protests have been peaceful, and he hopes that trend continues.

 

"Those that would like to make this a defining moment for the city of Sanford are wrong, and we just have to make sure that we do a good job of making sure that that's not our lasting image," Triplett said.

 

It's not known when Angela Corey, a state attorney appointed as the special prosecutor by Gov. Rick Scott, will make a ruling.

 

Residents said they feel the pressure of the decision looming over the community.

"Sanford is still a good little town," said Jimbo Carter of McRoberts Auto Center. Carter has been working at the auto center in Sanford for 30 years and he said the outcome of the decision could hurt the town.

 

"Yeah, I'm worried if he's not charged (that) we're gonna have trouble in this town," Carter said.

 

But Tommy Oliver, who was born and raised in Sanford, said he isn't concerned at all.

"People march, but this a new day and age and not too much is going to happen," Oliver said.

 

Zimmerman, 28, hasn't been arrested or charged in the Feb. 26 shooting death of Martin, sparking outrage across the nation.

 

Zimmerman claims the shooting was in self-defense after he was attacked by Martin. Martin's parents say their son was the victim of an attack fueled by racial profiling.

 

 

 

 

 

UN Human Rights Chief: Investigate Trayvon Martin Killing Immediately

Navi Pillay: "It calls into question the delivery of justice in all situations like this."

- Common Dreams staff
 

The United Nations human rights chief has called for an "immediate investigation" into the killing of Trayvon Martin.

 

Navi Pillay, the UN human rights chief, made the comments at a press conference in Barbados.

Trayvon Martin Protest - Sanford(photo: Werth Media)

 

She also expressed concern over Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law, which has come under scrutiny since the killing of Martin by "neighborhood watchman" George Zimmerman.

 

"As High Commissioner for Human Rights, I call for an immediate investigation," Pillay told reporters.

 

"Justice must be done for the victim. It's not just this individual case. It calls into question the delivery of justice in all situations like this."

 

"The law should operate equally in respect of all violations. I will be awaiting an investigation and prosecution and trial and of course reparations for the victims concerned," Pillay said.

 

The ACLU has also called for an investigation into Martin's killing. Dennis Parker, director of the ACLU Racial Justice Program, stated, “Trayvon’s family and the nation deserve a full and fair investigation of the killing, as well as a thorough examination of the fatal effects that racial discrimination has in our country. The failure to take decisive steps now will only ensure that this tragedy will be repeated.”

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Agence France-Presse: UN rights chief calls for Trayvon Martin probe

BRIDGETOWN — UN rights chief Navi Pillay on Thursday called for an "immediate investigation" into the circumstances surrounding the February death of an unarmed black US teen, shot by a neighborhood watchman.

Pillay made the comments about the controversial Trayvon Martin case at a press conference in Barbados, as she wrapped up a three-day visit to the Caribbean island nation. [...]

The case has unleashed a national uproar over race relations and the right to self-defense in the United States.

Pillay expressed shock that Zimmerman was not arrested right away, and expressed concern about Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, which allows the use of deadly force in situations where there is a belief of a threat.

Trayvon Martin case: Florida college students plan 3-day march to Sanford to protest corruption

 

A memorial for Trayvon Martin, near where he was shot, continues to be a gathering place for prayer on April 6, 2012 in Sanford, Florida. Martin was killed by George Michael Zimmerman who was on neighborhood watch patrol in the gated community of The Retreat at Twin Lakes. (Photo by Roberto Gonzalez/Getty IMages)

Students from Bethune-Cookman University among other colleges in Florida have embarked on a three-day, 41-mile journey from Daytona Beach to Sanford, Fla. to protest what they perceive as the improper handling of the Trayvon Martin case by Sanford authorities.

Organized under an umbrella organization called The Dream Defenders, the students have organized the march to pay respectful homage to the historic event in which Dr. Martin Luther King led a contingent of civil rights activists on a journey from Selma to Montgomery, Ala.

The Dream Defenders coordinated the three-day protest via Facebook and Twitter. Their logo features an image of Martin Luther King wearing a hoodie.

"The group began assembling at Daisy Stocking Park on Third Street in Daytona Beach about noon Friday and set out on the first led of the march [at] about 2:40 p.m.," the Orlando Sentinelreports.

March coordinator Gabriel Pendas, who is an alumnus of Florida State University, told the paper that the marchers will rest at churches during the night.

The march will end on April 8 at about 7 p.m., where students will convene at the Allen ChapelAME Church, which has hosted many protests regarding the Trayvon Martin incident.

About 40 students from Gainesville, Tallahassee, Miami and Daytona Beach kicked off the march, but organizers hope that more students will join along the way, and that students will be galvanized to engage in concurrent political action in other locations. An influx of additional march participants is expected on Saturday.

To participating students, the death of Trayvon Martin is an assault on Dr. King's dream of equality for all.

One participant said: "We're looking to defend the dream that a lot of youths have about equality and fairness, for all that we're not seeing."

Trayvon Martin, 17, was killed on February 26 in Sanford, Fla. while unarmed by an unregistered neighborhood watch captain who claimed he shot in self-defense. The fact that the shooter remains uncharged and free has inspired a wave of protests demanding that Martin's killer be arrested. Many believe that Martin's death was not investigated thoroughly due to racial bias.

Follow Alexis Garrett Stodghill on Twitter at @lexisb

Tell Your Sons About Trayvon Martin

By now we imagine you are well aware that Black teenager Trayvon Martin was shot and killed by white Hispanic neighborhood crime watch volunteer George Zimmerman while Martin walked unarmed and alone in a residential neighborhood in Sanford, Florida, and that the Sanford police department has refused to arrest Zimmerman, accepting his claims that he was acting in self-defense under Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law.

You are probably following on the Martin case, but are your sons? Tell your sons about the Trayvon Martin story as it is unfolding.

Tell your sons that even though the Sanford police department accepted Zimmerman’s claims of self-defense under a Florida law, the state legislator who was the prime sponsor of this legislation in the Florida House has written a statement found here in which he clarifies that this law does not seem to be applicable to the tragedy that happened in Sanford.

Tell them that even though the Sanford police won’t press charges, the Seminole County State Attorney is convening a grand jury investigation and the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division has opened an inquiry into the shooting. Tell them these state and federal investigations were opened because people nationwide are horrified and outraged by this tragedy, and their calls for action have been heard.

Tell your sons that Zimmerman called 911 and reported that a “real suspicious guy” was walking around the neighborhood. Tell them that the image of a young Black man as a threat pervades our society, and is promoted in the media, in movies, on television, in videos, and in music. Tell them when young Black men are regularly and primarily depicted in the media as criminals it helps people like George Zimmerman feel justified in believing that a Black boy walking down the street is looking for trouble and deserves to be shot in cold blood.

Tell them the New York Times chose to run an unsmiling picture of Trayvon in a hoodie with the hood up next to a picture of George Zimmerman on the first page of an early article about this killing instead of the picture of Trayvon smiling which they ran on the second page of the article. (The online version of this article has been edited to only show the smiling Trayvon picture.)

Tell your sons to read Charles Blow’s op-ed piece “The Curious Case of Trayvon Martin” found here in which Blow talks about “the burden of black boys in America and the people that love them: running the risk of being descended upon in the dark and caught in the cross-hairs of someone who crosses the line”.

Tell your sons that this story is every Black parent’s vivid nightmare.

Tell your sons not to be surprised if you hug them a little tighter when you send them out into the world these days, or if you stay in a bit closer touch by phone or text.

Tell them to keep Trayvon Martin and his family in their thoughts and prayers.

Tell your sons to keep their heads high, but to always watch their backs.

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The Curious Case of Trayvon Martin

<h6 class="byline">By CHARLES M. BLOW</h6><h6 class="dateline">Published: March 16, 2012</h6>
 

“He said that Tray was gone.”

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That’s how Sybrina Fulton, her voice full of ache, told me she found out that her 17-year-old son, Trayvon Martin, had died. In a wrenching telephone call, the boy’s father, who had taken him to visit a friend, told her that Trayvon had been gunned down in a gated townhouse community in Sanford, Fla., outside Orlando.

“He said, ‘Somebody shot Trayvon and killed him.’ And I was like, ‘Are you sure?’ ” Fulton continued in disbelief. “I said ‘How do you know that’s Trayvon?’ And he said because they showed him a picture.”

That was Feb. 27, one day after Trayvon was shot. The father thought that he was missing, according to the family’s lawyer, Benjamin Crump, but the boy’s body had actually been taken to the medical examiner’s office and listed as a John Doe.

The father called the Missing Persons Unit. No luck. Then he called 911. The police asked the father to describe the boy, after which they sent officers to the house where the father was staying. There they showed him a picture of the boy with blood coming out of his mouth.

This is a nightmare scenario for any parent, and the events leading to Trayvon’s death offer little comfort — and pose many questions.

Trayvon had left the house he and his father were visiting to walk to the local 7-Eleven. On his way back, he caught the attention of George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain, who was in a sport-utility vehicle. Zimmerman called the police because the boy looked “real suspicious,” according to a 911 call released late Friday. The operator told Zimmerman that officers were being dispatched and not to pursue the boy.

Zimmerman apparently pursued him anyway, at some point getting out of his car and confronting the boy. Trayvon had a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. Zimmerman had a 9 millimeter handgun.

The two allegedly engaged in a physical altercation. There was yelling, and then a gunshot.

When police arrived, Trayvon was face down in the grass with a fatal bullet wound to the chest. Zimmerman was standing with blood on his face and the back of his head and grass stains on his back, according to The Orlando Sentinel.

Trayvon’s lifeless body was taken away, tagged and held. Zimmerman was taken into custody, questioned and released. Zimmerman said he was the one yelling for help. He said that he acted in self-defense. The police say that they have found no evidence to dispute Zimmerman’s claim.

One other point: Trayvon is black. Zimmerman is not.

Trayvon was buried on March 3. Zimmerman is still free and has not been arrested or charged with a crime.

Yet the questions remain: Why did Zimmerman find Trayvon suspicious? Why did he pursue the boy when the 911 operator instructed him not to? Why did he get out of the car, and why did he take his gun when he did? How is it self-defense when you are the one in pursuit? Who initiated the altercation? Who cried for help? Did Trayvon’s body show evidence of a struggle? What moved Zimmerman to use lethal force?

This case has reignited a furor about vigilante justice, racial-profiling and equitable treatment under the law, and it has stirred the pot of racial strife.

As the father of two black teenage boys, this case hits close to home. This is the fear that seizes me whenever my boys are out in the world: that a man with a gun and an itchy finger will find them “suspicious.” That passions may run hot and blood run cold. That it might all end with a hole in their chest and hole in my heart. That the law might prove insufficient to salve my loss.

That is the burden of black boys in America and the people that love them: running the risk of being descended upon in the dark and caught in the cross-hairs of someone who crosses the line.

The racial sensitivity of this case is heavy. Trayvon’s parents have said their son was murdered. Crump, the family’s lawyer, told me, “You know, if Trayvon would have been the triggerman, it’s nothing Trayvon Martin could have said to keep police from arresting him Day 1, Hour 1.” Even the police chief recognizes this reality, even while disputing claims of racial bias in the investigation: “Our investigation is color blind and based on the facts and circumstances, not color. I know I can say that until I am blue in the face, but, as a white man in a uniform, I know it doesn’t mean anything to anybody.”

Zimmerman has not released a statement, but his father delivered a one-page letter to The Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. According to the newspaper, the statement said that Zimmerman is “Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.” The paper quotes the letter as reading, “He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever” and continues, “The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth.” And disclosures made since the shooting complicate people’s perception of fairness in the case.

According to Crump, the father was told that one of the reasons Zimmerman wasn’t arrested was because he had a “squeaky clean” record. It wasn’t. According to the local news station WFTV, Zimmerman was arrested in 2005 for “battery on a law enforcement officer.”

Furthermore, ABC News reported on Tuesday that one of the responding officers “corrected a witness after she told him that she heard the teen cry for help.” And The Miami Herald published an article on Thursday that said three witnesses had heard the “desperate wail of a child, a gunshot, and then silence.”

WFTV also reported this week that the officer in charge of the scene when Trayvon was shot was also in charge of another controversial case. In 2010, a lieutenant’s son was videotaped attacking a black homeless man. The officer’s son also was not initially arrested in that case. He was later arrested when the television station broke the news.

Although we must wait to get the results from all the investigations into Trayvon’s killing, it is clear that it is a tragedy. If no wrongdoing of any sort is ascribed to the incident, it will be an even greater tragedy.

One of the witnesses was a 13-year-old black boy who recorded a video for The Orlando Sentinel recounting what he saw. The boy is wearing a striped polo shirt, holding a microphone, speaking low and deliberately and has the heavy look of worry and sadness in his eyes. He describes hearing screaming, seeing someone on the ground and hearing gunshots. The video ends with the boy saying, “I just think that sometimes people get stereotyped, and I fit into the stereotype as the person who got shot.”

And that is the burden of black boys, and this case can either ease or exacerbate it.

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  This is one of the reasons why I engage less and less with this story cuz of the starling similarities.  My son wasn't given his NAME until the preliminary hearing months after his funeral.  I had to fight tooth and nail to make sure that the court system returned his name to him.  Before, or at the time of his death he became case number 12121212 and the only reasons why he was identified in the coroner's office of a local hospital was because a colleague of mine going for her medical degree RECOGNIZED him and call my office.  Otherwise, I would've continued searching for him in every alley way, street corner, trash can-the whole nine yards.

 

The darting pain the family is currently going through is beyond numbing-I've been right where they are....in the center of it all screaming at the top of my lungs...but the difference is back then black people were afraid of retaliation and wouldn't get involved.  So I became the lone ranger...cuz I would die before I would EVER be afraid of my own people and let them intimidate me.  Hell no! And because of this stubborness I put myself at risk many many many times-but my son deserved his life and that's what kept me going....and the HATRED I had for black people [committing self-genocide] at the time was my fuel.  But!  I'm passed that.  Thank God.  Took a long time.  But! I came through it with social scars and whole!  Today I am soooooooo proud of my people right NOW.  Who are standing up....standing tall...standing strong....for our BLACK youth.  I guess the blood stains of many years and tears of grieving parents, family members and communities have finally paved the way for societal UNITY.  In this moment, in this time...I couldn't be more prouder than I am right now from those courageous and BRAVE folks from the hood. To be from the "hood" wearing a "hoodie" presently means something very VALUABLE!!!  And because of this unyeilding unmoved determination the world is witnessing....change is acoming....soon.    

SO, WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THAT IF ZIMMERMAN IS CHARGED AT ALL, HE WILL NOT BE CHARGED WITH MURDER!

 

 

Trayvon Martin death won't go to Fla. grand jury

 

 

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Special prosecutor Angela Corey said Monday she will not take the Trayvon Martin shooting death before a grand jury.

 

Corey said she continues to investigate the case and will not involve a grand jury that had been set to meet Tuesday in Sanford, Fla.

 

Corey said her decision to skip the grand jury shouldn't be considered a factor in determining whether charges will be filed against George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who has admitted to fatally shooting the unarmed Martin.

 

The announcement means the decision on charges now rests solely with Corey, who had a reputation for not presenting cases before grand juries if it wasn't required. Under Florida law, only first-degree murder cases require the use of grand juries.

 

Corey took over the case last month after the prosecutor who normally handles cases out of Sanford recused himself. That prosecutor, Norm Wolfinger, had originally called for the case to be presented before a grand jury.

 

"From the moment she was assigned, Ms. Corey noted she may not need a grand jury," said a statement from Corey's office.

 

Martin was killed Feb. 26 during a confrontation with Zimmerman in a gated community in Sanford.

 

The case has led to protests across the nation and spurred a debate about race and the laws of self-defense. Martin was black; Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

Zimmerman has claimed self-defense, and Florida's self-defense law gives wide leeway to use deadly force and eliminates a person's duty to retreat in the face of danger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Special Prosecutor; States Attorney Ms. Angela B. Corey

 

By Jueseppi B.

 

 

 

 

Most times when a special prosecutor is appointed to head an investigation, you breath a sigh of relief.  In the case of Special Prosecutor States Attorney Ms. Angela B. Corey, I would not breath just yet. She has a propensity for trying children as adults in her prosecution duties as states attorney.

 

Angela B. Corey (born October 31, 1954) is an American lawyer currently serving as the State Attorney in Florida‘s Fourth Judicial Circuit Court, which includes Duval,Nassau and Clay counties. The first woman to hold the position, she was elected in 2008. On March 22, 2012, Florida Governor Rick Scott announced that she would be the newly Assigned State Attorney investigating the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, replacing State Attorney Norm Wolfinger.

 

 

Background

 

Corey was born and grew up in Jacksonville, Florida, where she attended Englewood High School. After graduation, she majored in Marketing at Florida State Universitybefore being convinced by professors to try a Legal career. She applied to University of Florida‘s Levin College of Law and was accepted. After completing her Juris Doctordegree, she did legal research while preparing for the Florida Bar examination, then spent 18 months defending medical malpractice lawsuits with Howell & Howell, PA. She later became board certified in criminal trial law.

 

 

Prosecutions

 

She was hired by Ed Austin in 1981 during his tenure as State Attorney from 1975 to 1991, and remained an Assistant State Attorney after Harry Shorstein was appointed by Governor Lawton Chiles in 1991. During her 26 years as a prosecutor, she tried several hundred cases, which included 54 homicides.

 

In 1996, her primary responsibility became homicide prosecutions, but she also supervised lawyers in the Felony division. Shorstein changed Corey’s work assignment in 2005 from director of the Gun Crime Unit to director of the County Court, which handles misdemeanors. In that position, she trained newly hired lawyers to be prosecutors. She previously served as Juvenile division supervisor.

 

 

State Attorney

 

Corey made the decision to run for the office of State Attorney in 2006. After her candidacy became known, her working relationship with Shorstein became difficult. He terminated her employment in November 2006. Afterwards, she was hired by John Tanner, State Attorney for the Seventh Judicial Circuit, to perform the same job functions she did in Jacksonville, working homicide cases in St. Johns County.

 

The following day, Shorstein called a news conference and announced that he would retire at the end of his current term and not run for re-election in 2008. In the following election, Shorstein supported his chief assistant, Jay Plotkin. On August 26, 2008, Corey defeated Plotkin with more than 64% of the votes cast.

 

Upon taking office, Corey terminated 10 assistant state attorneys, over half of the investigators, and 48 support employees. In 2010, the Florida Times-Union reported that Corey sent 230 juvenile felony cases to adult court in 2009. This amounted to twice the number of juvenile felony cases placed in adult court in the years prior to Corey becoming State Attorney.

 

 

Cristian Fernandez case

 

In 2011 Corey’s office oversaw a case in which 12-year-old Cristian Fernandez was accused of killing his two-year-old brother. Corey sought and received a grand jury indictment Fernandez on charges of homicide and aggravated child abuse, and decided to try him as an adult. This move, which made Fernandez the youngest person ever to face a murder charge in Jacksonville’s history, drew criticism and protests to send the case to juvenile court instead, but Corey held that the juvenile system was inadequate to handle a crime of this magnitude. However, Corey stated she did not intend for Fernandez to stand trial or serve a life sentence, but would rather accept a plea deal.As of February 1, 2012 the defense and prosecution had not agreed to a plea deal, but were still in discussion. A trial is scheduled for February 27, 2012.

No trial date has been set in the murder case, for which speedy trial has been waived. The next pre-trial hearing for this case is scheduled for April 19th, 2012.

 
"As I said, this special prosecutor may not be the best person to investigate the caucasian George Zimmerman in his slaying of Black youth Trayvon Martin. We will just have to wait and see."--(theobamacrat.com)
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Source: NBC Producer Fired Over Zimmerman 911 Call

 

Date: Sunday, April 08, 2012, 11:53 pm
By: Frazier Moore, AP Television Writer

 

NBC News has fired a producer for editing a recording of George Zimmerman's call to police. (Photo: AP)

NEW YORK (AP) — NBC News has fired a producer for editing a recording of George Zimmerman's call to police the night he shot Trayvon Martin, a person with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.

The person was not authorized to talk about the situation publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity. The identity of the producer was not disclosed.

An NBC spokeswoman declined to comment.

The producer's dismissal followed an internal investigation that led to NBC apologizing for having aired the misleading audio.

NBC's "Today" show first aired the edited version of Zimmerman's call on March 27. The recording viewers heard was trimmed to suggest that Zimmerman volunteered to police, with no prompting, that Martin was black: "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."

But the portion of the tape that was deleted had the 911 dispatcher asking Zimmerman if the person who had raised his suspicion was "black, white or Hispanic," to which Zimmerman responded, "He looks black."

Later that night of Feb. 26, the 17-year-old Martin was fatally shot by Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford, Fla. Though Martin was unarmed, Zimmerman told police he fired in self-defense after Martin attacked him.

Questions subsequently have arisen over whether Zimmerman was racially profiling the teen, a theory the edited version of the tape seemed to support.

On Tuesday, NBC said its investigation turned up "an error made in the production process that we deeply regret." It promised that "necessary steps" would be taken "to prevent this from happening in the future" and apologized to viewers.

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Ya know, let's be honest here...PLEASE. If Trayvon had been shot by another black young (or black adult), the story would have never gotten out of Florida. YOU KNOW THIS IS TRUE. But since the alleged perpetrator is not black and the victim is black, it must somehow have racial implications, failure of a proper police investigation (which is true) and another example of a biased justice system. I think the death of this young man is very tragic and the alleged shooter should be investigated and prosecuted to the letter of the law if found culpable. The surroundings of this shooting, from what I see, do sound questionable. But with no eye witnesses (one said they saw something and then disappeared) other than those who said they “heard” something, I have no idea how this case can be successfully prosecuted. Legally, from what I see at this point, it doesn’t look good for a prosecution given the nature of the law that allowed this to happen.  But I guess we’ll know before the end of the week…..?

Not really. Yes, the police did a poor job of investigation but the prosecuting  attorneys hands are tied. As I said before, while the death of this young man is tragic and sad, there is no criminal case that probably can be successfully pursued given the fact there are no witnesses, collaborating, compelling or circumstantial evidence. Had this happened in New York, yes. But in Florida, no. It's the nature of the state law.

 

Sad as it is, the exculpatory evidence for Zimmerman is his story of self defense. I personally don't buy it but in a court of law, it’s not what you think, believe or feel -it's what you can prove. The state of Florida generally allows its citizens to own, possess and carry guns with very few restrictions (except for convicted felons) and to use the weapons in self defense. Since Zimmerman said he used it in self defense and no one can refute this (other than the dead young man)…well….not much the state can do. Again, you can't prosecute someone because you feel it's the right thing to do -you have to prove the person violated the law and commited an illegal act. Perhaps maybe a civil suit…..?

  Now that they are gonna FINALLY arrest him for this heinous crime...let's the party get started.  Cuz this is gonna be some interesting sh*t and a hellva justice ride.  I have NEVER heard of a lawyer not being able to get in contact with his own client face to face.  Have yall?  It appears that daddy former judge is behind all these legal games.  Cuz WHO else would have the GALL to do this?   So that tells you WHO his REAL counsel is?  His father!!!  I guess he has ran out of political strings.  Good! Cuz his son's azz should have been in JAIL day one.  Now....let's just see what unfolds....  And how fast they get this murderer behind bars.  Let's just see....hum?

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  Now that they are gonna FINALLY arrest him for this heinous crime...let's the party get started.  Cuz this is gonna be some interesting sh*t and a hellva justice ride.  I have NEVER heard of a lawyer not being able to get in contact with his own client face to face.  Have yall?  It appears that daddy former judge is behind all these legal games.  Cuz WHO else would have the GALL to do this?   So that tells you WHO his REAL counsel is?  His father!!!  I guess he has ran out of political strings.  Good! Cuz his son's azz should have been in JAIL day one.  Now....let's just see what unfolds....  And how fast they get this murderer behind bars.  Let's just see....hum?

 

Not only Zimmerman needs to be behind bars...don't forget those DUMB AZZ police officers who dropped the damn ball by letting Zimmerman go in the first place.  And they let him KEEP THE GUN...the actual murder weapon.  WTF?  What cop does that?!  Those cops need to be fired and put under the jailhouse for obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting, and conspiracy to manslaugher/murder/deadly assault. 

 

I know I keep repeating the charges, but we can't just rest and just be satisfied with only Zimmerman behind bars.  Put those sorry cops behind bars also, because they did a piss poor job, DOING THEIR JOB.  They should never be able to get a job in law enforcement or even hold or possess a gun and/or a badge for the rest of their lives.  They shouldn't even be able to legally posses a slingshot.

I am so glad that they charged Zimmerman, and I hope that Trayvon Martin's family will get Justice for the murder of their son.  I hope that this case has served as the turning point for African Americans to revive the Civil Rights Movement, and to continue to demand Justice.  

 

This case should also signal the need for all of the ridiculous and dangerous laws that have been enacted in almost every state, to revisit these rash laws so that they can be abolished altogether or at least made perfectly clear and without loop holes in them for people to be able to get away with murder.  This case, and really, thousands of others, should cause the Justice Department to investigate police departments all other the country, police corruption, police obstruction of justice, dirty prosecutors and judges.  

 

There are just too many Trayvon Martins in this country, every day, and what's worst is the fact that the majority of the time it is the police that are murdering our children, our teenagers, young Black males, Black people in general, and the same for Brown people, with absolute impunity.

 

Either way it's going to be the point of no return for America; either America is going to stand up and say America is what America purports itself to be, or that it has all been an illusion and that anyone that is Black, Brown, non-White, poor, non-White, non-connected, have no Civil Rights, are NOT protected under the Constitution of the United States, and can be murdered at any time by anyone, especially the police, without consequences. 

..... This is GREAT news!!!    The first step towards justice for Trayvon Martin was taken today!!! 

 

I DO have to disagree with Rev. Al that today was not a day for celebration.  It most certainly was!!  He acts like this wasn't a victory!!  Like it couldn't have gone the other way.  When he, of all people, knows damn well that a different prosecutor  could have easily decided to let that fool go!!  In fact, the original state attorney DID!! 

 

So, I absolutely celebrate today's charge and arrest of George Zimmerman!!  And hope for many more victories to come until he is serving a life sentence for the second-degree murder that he committed.

 

I'm also really not wit Trayvon's mom and dad's insistence that ALL they were/are asking for (or need to be asking for) is "an arrest."  "An arrest" is not good enough!!     An "arrest" is not the end.  An "arrest" is NOT justice. 

 

I'm sure there's probably a strategy behind it ... but I'm not liking it none!!    The LAST thing we need to be is complacent.  Although I can totally understand a call for "calm" ... everybody has been calm up to this point ... all protests have been peaceful, as far as I know.  No need to get all 'pacifist' now. 

 

As we see with the Jennifer Hudson trial ... it could take YEARS before a trial in this matter is conducted.  And I think we all can be understanding of that.  But Trayvon deserves far, FAR more in the name of justice than merely an arrest.  and justice demands that that can't be all his family is asking for ... not even now.

 

But, again ... TODAY'S developments mean A LOT ... for a whole lot of reasons!!  Not  just because it was the just and right thing.  And not just because George Zimmerman is finally in jail for his crime.  But also because of the way it happened ... the protest and demand for justice by sooooo many people that was rightly heard and acted upon.

 

We did good! 

Originally Posted by Xeon:

 

Sad as it is, the exculpatory evidence for Zimmerman is his story of self defense. I personally don't buy it but in a court of law, it’s not what you think, believe or feel -it's what you can prove. The state of Florida generally allows its citizens to own, possess and carry guns with very few restrictions (except for convicted felons) and to use the weapons in self defense. Since Zimmerman said he used it in self defense and no one can refute this (other than the dead young man)…well….not much the state can do. Again, you can't prosecute someone because you feel it's the right thing to do -you have to prove the person violated the law and commited an illegal act. Perhaps maybe a civil suit…..?

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This may not necessarily be true.  There may be criminal culpability just in the fact that there's OBVIOUS evidence that points to George Zimmerman acting as a "pursuer" of Trayvon Martin .... due to the fact that he admitted to police that he was watching and 'following' Martin during his 911 call ... he was told NOT to do even that .. let alone confront the boy .. and he has also admitted that he did BOTH of those things by confessing that he got out of his car specifically to look for him.

 

Seems to me there's an argument against "self-defense" just based on the fact that Zimmerman was the initial aggressor. He disobeyed a law enforcement order/request that was designed to keep EVERYONE safe and alive that night. If George Zimmerman had stayed in his car, Trayvon would be alive right now.

 

Seems to me, it wouldn't be all that hard to prove to a jury that it was more likely that Trayvon Martin was the one needing to 'defend' himself.   If aynybody sounds like they had a reason to be scared it would be Trayvon... since he was the one who was being stalked!!    Don'tcha think??  

 

And if you can prove that to a jury from the get-go ... you're pretty much halfway home-free from there!!!

You're right ER, there is no way in hell you can stalk someone, then jump out of your car at them, (with a gun), and that person takes off running in an attempt to get away from you, and then you go even further, and chase after that person, you and that person get into a physical struggle, and that person winds up shot in the chest, (after you shoot that person, with your gun going off more that once, mind you) that you can then say that it was "self-defense".  You would have forfeited the claim to self defense the moment you started stalking that person, let alone after you chased after that person.  Even if you gun discharged by "accident", that person is dead because of your actions, but for the fact that you ever stalked that person, "confronted" that person, and then chased after that person to wind up in the physical altercation with that person in the first place, that person would still be alive.  

 

Self-defense only applies when you are not the aggressor.  

 

 

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  I didn't know that popo allowed him to KEEP the gun!!!!  WTF!!!!  Wow.  They dropped the ball on this....big time.   Will see if heads are gonna roll on this.   

Only if the people continue to pressure. Because at this stage the only true demand was to arrest Zimmerman and hold him accountable. No one has protested the Sanford Police and demanded that they be held accountable for this. The police chief has only stepped aside.

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