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Trayvon Martin Exclusive: Friend on Phone with Teen Before Death Recalls Final Moments

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In the final moments of his life, Trayvon Martin was being hounded by a strange man on a cellphone who ran after him, cornered him and confronted him, according to the teenage girl whose call logs show she was on the phone with the 17-year-old boy in the moments before neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman shot him dead.

Martin's death Feb. 26 has stirred national outrage and protests, partly prompting the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division and the FBI to open an investigation into the case.

ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump about the last moments of the teenager's life.

"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."

Eventually he would run, said the girl, thinking that he'd managed to escape. But suddenly the strange man was back, cornering Martin.

"Trayvon said, 'What, are you following me for,' and the man said, 'What are you doing here.' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again and he didn't answer the phone."

The line went dead. Besides screams heard on 911 calls that night as Martin and Zimmerman scuffled, those were the last words he said.

Trayvon's phone logs, also obtained exclusively by ABC News, show the conversation occurred five minutes before police first arrived on scene. The young woman's parents asked that her name not be used, and that only an attorney could ask her questions.

Martin's father, Tracey Martin, and mother, Sybrina Fulton, listened to the call along with ABC News, ashen-faced.

"He knew he was being followed and tried to get away from the guy, and the guy still caught up with him," Tracey Martin said. "And that's the most disturbing part. He thought he had got away from the guy and the guy back-tracked for him."

The teen was killed by Zimmerman while walking back to his father's fiancés home after stepping out to buy Skittles and some iced tea during the NBA All-Star Game. After weeks of relentless pressure, the Sanford Police have decided to release emergency and non-emergency calls placed during the incident.

"These a**holes always get away," Zimmerman says in a call to a non-emergency number.

Dispatcher: "Are you following him?"

Zimmerman: "Yeah."

Dispatcher: "We don't need you to do that."

An altercation soon ensued. A few moments later a torrent of 911 calls flooded in and Martin was killed by a single bullet. Zimmerman claimed self-defense and has yet to be arrested, stoking outrage and claims of prejudice against the police department.

"When George Zimmerman is arrested, tried and convicted I will get a little rest," Tracey Martin said.

According to a statement by the Justice Department, "The department will conduct a thorough and independent review of all of the evidence and take appropriate action and the conclusion of the investigation. … The government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person acted intentionally and with the specific intent to do something which the law forbids. Negligence, recklessness, mistakes and accidents are not prosecutable under the federal criminal civil rights laws."

Nearly half a million people have signed an online petition on change.org urging law enforcement officials to step in and arrest Zimmerman. Protests have played out in the Florida town all week with a large gathering expected Thursday.

Zimmerman violated major principles of the Neighborhood Watch manual, ABC News has learned. The manual from the Neighborhood Watch program states: "It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers. And they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles."

According to Chris Tutko, the director of the National Neighborhood Watch program, there are about 22,000 registered watch groups nationwide, and Zimmerman was not part of a registered group, which police were not aware of at the time of the incident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Yemaya:

Seems as if the police are trying to deflect all of the focus off of themselves and their screw up by continuing to release more 911 calls from Zimmerman. Though now we see his pathology, doesn't absolve the police from their responsibility for getting this nut off of the streets.

 

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The law officers are just making themselves unfit to carry a badge anywhere on the earth.  They have to be fired from the force and be charged with Obstruction.  If they refuse to arrest Zimmerman, then they need to be put under the jail with him. Period point blank.  No free passes at all.

If you see George Zimmerman: light to tan complexion, Black hair, brown/black eyes, long scar on the left side of his face, ear piercing on his left ear and a mole on the right site of his face be aware that this man is armed and dangerous and should not be approached. He may be in hiding with his wife or other family members and will probably try to alter his appearance. Since this is now a federal investigation, call 1-800 CALLFBI (1-800-225-5324) immediately if you see this criminal in your community.

Uproar grows over citizen volunteer's killing of Florida teen

 

Racial overtones emerge as protesters call for justice in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, who is black, by a neighborhood watch patroller in a gated community.

 

 

In a scene reminiscent of a 1960s civil rights rally, protesters gathered outside the Seminole County criminal courthouse Monday, sang "We Shall Overcome" and demanded the immediate arrest of a neighborhood watch volunteer who shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin to death last month.

"This is not acceptable," said Jason Reed, 25, a Florida A&M University student.

"We want justice now!" about 75 demonstrators chanted.

George Zimmerman, 28, claims self-defense, and so far police say evidence backs him up. But the case has become a cause celebre, with activist Al Sharpton scheduled to appear for a rally Thursday. And late Monday, the Justice Department said it had opened an investigation.

Martin's mother appeared on NBC's "Today" show, saying her son was mild-mannered, never got agitated and was followed because of "the color of his skin."

"I just don't understand why the situation got out of control," Sybrina Fulton said.

Lawyers for the victim's family have said Zimmerman fired twice, but a source close to the investigation told the Orlando Sentinel that police found a single shell casing, and the only bullet missing was the one in the handgun's chamber.

Zimmerman apparently had a habit of calling the law. Authorities released records Monday showing he made 46 calls between January 2011 and Feb. 26, when he shot Martin about 7:15 p.m. as the unarmed youth walked through a gated community, records show. He often mentioned that he was a member of neighborhood watch.

Six recordings of his calls were released Monday, and four of them concerned suspicious persons — all of whom were black. The recordings did not include the Feb. 26 call, when Zimmerman contacted a nonemergency police line to report a suspicious person: Martin.

While still on the phone with police, Zimmerman stepped out of his SUV and followed the teenager on foot. Martin had visited a 7-Eleven, where he'd bought Skittles and a can of Arizona iced tea.

They fought and Martin wound up dead, with a single gunshot to the chest. When police arrived, Zimmerman was standing nearby, blood coming from his nose and the back of his head, according to the police report.

A neighbor called 911, describing the fight as two people wrestling. A 13-year-old boy said he saw Zimmerman on the ground and heard someone calling for help.

Those cries are audible on one 911 recording. Zimmerman told police that it was him. Lawyers for Martin's family say it was the Miami high school junior.

Near the end of Monday's rally, Sanford City Commissioner Velma Williams sat wearily on a bench. She said she'd tried to convince Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee Jr. several days ago to do something to quiet the growing unrest.

"There's a train coming down the tracks at 75 mph, and it has no brakes," she said she told him. "Now the train is coming at 150 mph, and it has no brakes."

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Orlando Sentinel reporter Amy Pavuk contributed to this report.

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UPDATE 3, 9:30 p.m. EDT, Monday, March 19: Where is Trayvon Martin's cellphone?

When Trayvon Martin was killed, all he had were Skittles, iced tea...and a cellphone, authorities told the L.A. Times. The phone has been mentioned in multiple reports in recent days, and journalists and concerned citizens are starting to ask: Where is Trayvon's phone? Why did the police on the scene of the shooting not use it to identify Martin, or contact his next of kin? "Trayvon's body was bagged and taken to the morgue, where he was tagged as a John Doe," writes African American affairs blogger Sandra Rose. "No one contacted Trayvon's family even though police had Trayvon's cell phone in their possession."

The lack of information about Martin's phone is feeding further skepticism about the police's conduct, and it's led New York Times columnist Charles Blow to start a new meme on Twitter:

 

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he lack of information about Martin's phone is feeding further skepticism about the police's conduct. 
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Okay. Where is it? 
He was labeled as a 'John Doe', and he was not identified for 3 days. The phone had his parents' numbers as well as other contacts. 
Why wasn't it used to identify him? What else does it have on it? Did Zimmerman find it and keep it? 

A rally with HUNDREDS of people turned out in N.Y. today to support that racist child killer being arrested!!  That sounds soooooo much better than just the 75 people who were said to have attended a rally in Florida yesterday!!  Hopefully with Rev. Al showing up tomorrow, the protests will be even BIGGER than it was today!!

 

 

Demonstrators chant in support of slain teenager Trayvon Martin at the Million Hoodies March on March 21, 2012 in New York City.

 

 

Tracy Martin (left in orange shirt), and Sybrina Fulton,(R), parents of slain teenager Trayvon Martin, pray at a Million Hoodies March on March 21, 2012 in New York City.

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March 20, 2012 Posted by URBAN CUSP in GLOBAL MATTERSLIFEOPINIONSRACE AND IDENTITY

When confronted by an armed individual, assume that this person is the police. As such, begin by placing your hands behind your head, fingers interlaced. This will assure that in the eventuality that you are shot and executed, there will be minimum opportunity for analysts and pundits to later ponder if you were the aggressor. Keeping your fingers behind your head is key as it prevents your fingerprints from ending up on your assailant or his weapon. If at all possible, turn your back on the person (whom we will assume always to be the police). In this manner, you will be shot in the back, another telltale sign that you were the victim.

 

You will not survive your encounter, so it is important to remember to show investigators, the courts, and critics alike that you were in fact the victim. This will be difficult as the assumption is ever-present that somehow, in some way, you did something wrong. That perhaps there was something different you could have, should have done. Perhaps you should have worn something different or walked in a less suspicious manner. I assure you, my son, this is not the case. Regardless of your actions, you were not meant to survive. All you can hope for is an easier postmortem investigation. This will be of some comfort to your mother and I as we cope through your loss, and so I ask you to follow these directions carefully.

 

Be clear and concise in your cries for help. This will not in any way add to the chance that you will survive the encounter. Instead, it serves to ensure that bystanders and anyone recording just the audio of the encounter will have a clearer depiction of what is happening. Phrases such as "help me!" are not enough. You must be clear. "Please do not shoot me! I am just a kid!" will alert others to the fact that it is you that is about to be shot, rather than your assailant. "I do NOT have a weapon! Please don't shoot me!" further emphasizes that you are unarmed (for after your death, no one is ever certain).

You may be tempted to avoid such circumstance through excessive precaution. Know that this is futile. You might choose to avoid visiting public spaces such as parks and recreational facilities to minimize your encounters with police. This automatically makes you a suspect, for the one time you do happen across a public space, you will be the unknown, an unfamiliar Black male, and a target for execution. You might also avoid after-school activities, and commute to and from school only with large numbers of people. This too is pointless, for they will come to your school and they will place guns at your temple, under the direction of your principal. Success will not be your shield, as your accomplishments hide not your race. Even with a college education, you will be subject to unreasonable circumstances, and will likely be killed.

 

Most of all, you may try to avoid driving, for this is where you will most likely be stopped, and possibly killed. This may offer some limited comfort. In my teen years, by not having a car I avoided many of the humiliations endured by my cousins and friends. One of my cousins, a doctor whose father is a diplomat, can tell you of the time he was told to get out of his father’s vehicle (which bore a diplomatic license plate) and lie face down, spread eagle on the side of the highway. He was on his way home from a residency interview. The same police officers came to the other side of the van and asked his white brother-in-law if everything was okay.

 

Know that we have already tried to take these precautions for you. We agonized daily over what neighborhood to raise you in and what schools you should attend. We thought about being actively involved in your afterschool activities and your PTA. In the end, we realized none of it mattered. Your greatest achievements will be fluff for your eulogy.

My son, you will die. You will perish at the hands of those who fear you. Your death will be likened to a hunting accident. The best you can hope for is that it is not your body that dies, only your spirit, as has been the case with me, your father. When you are older, you will know that you were never meant to be a man. Your very existence, your lifespan and quality of life, are indeed not determined by a heavenly Father, but by the complex societal trappings that deem you, somehow, to be faulty, potentially dangerous, and ill-equipped to exist on equal footing. My son, how could you ever be a man? My prayer for you is that you will grow to adulthood and you will have a family of your own, but know that even in adulthood (should you ever make it there) manhood is a plateau upon which you will never stand.

 

A man holds at least some sway over his fate, for this is God-given. A man is free to protect his person and his loved ones, for this is just. Most of all, a man is granted autonomy. My son, in this country you were never meant to be a man. From the moment you adjust your behavior to avoid being perceived as a threat (walking with extra precision in a white neighborhood or carefully avoiding walking too close to a white person), you have been stripped of the opportunity to define your own existence, of the opportunity to be a man.

 

You will read that slaves sometimes spared their children from the cruelty of their condition by ending the child's life. It is out of my own vanity that your mother and I could not do this. I need your inevitable suffering to be witnessed by many. I need you to feel the confusion and helplessness I felt everyday growing up, and continue to feel now. At times, I truly felt I was going mad witnessing the consistent assault against and eradication of us. I need you to experience this abomination so that I know I am not riddled with insanity, but that in fact what I have seen over so many years, the clear and concentrated intent to eradicate masculinity from Black males, is real. Perhaps it is merely for selfish reasons that I hoped to have a son, so that I might observe firsthand what has been weighed upon me all these years. For my vanity, for my selfishness, I apologize. You will needlessly suffer in this world for no other reason than you were brought into it by a Black mother and father. All I can leave you with is what Rudyard Kipling wrote to his unborn son:

 

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute
with sixty seconds worth of distance run
Yours is the earth and all that's in it
And what's more you'll be a man my son"

His words are inspiring, but the expanse of their promise is not meant for you. My words to you are much more simple, more appropriate for your lot in life:

Live with humility, that you may die with grace, for this is all we have been allowed on this earth, in this country.

Police chief steps down temporarily over handling of Trayvon Martin case

Bill Lee, chief of police in Sanford, Florida, announces that he will be temporarily stepping down from his position as the investigation into the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is conducted.

Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee Jr. said Thursday that he would temporarily step down from his position over how the Trayvon Martin shooting case was handled.


Police Capt. Scott O'Connor will run the department until an interim chief is appointed, City Manager Norton Bonaparte said.

Lee and his department have come under withering criticism from Martin's family and their supporters, who have demanded the arrest of George Zimmerman in the Feb. 26 incident.

On Wednesday, the Sanford City Commission voted 3-2 that it had no confidence in Lee over how the case has been handled.

Velma Williams, the city’s only black commissioner, said she spent 15 years trying to bring together the black community and white community, and the Martin episode has taken an emotional toll. “And now this. It’s a national embarrassment," she said.

Commissioners Patty Mahany and Randy Jones supported the police chief, who came on the job last May.

"I would not want to see someone tried in the court of public opinion without all the facts," Jones said.

Mayor Jeff Triplett sounded a similar theme, though he voted against Lee. "We only have a very small piece of the puzzle right now," he said.

Commissioners cannot fire Lee, as he reports to City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr.

Amid growing outrage over Trayvon Martin, Sanford's city council passed a vote of no confidence in Police Chief Bill Lee for his handling of the murder investigation. MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell asks Sandford city manager Norton Bonaparte if he plans to fire him. Plus, MSNBC's Al Sharpton weighs in.

Williams implied that if Bonaparte doesn't fire Lee, she would review his contract the next time it comes up for renewal.

More from NBCMiami.com on the no-confidence vote

She nearly fainted after the vote because she became so emotional, and had to be treated by a paramedic.

Residents then took to the podium to say their piece.

"So what does this vote of no confidence mean?" Oscar Reden Jr. asked. "It means that that man right there ... Bonaparte, has to make a choice. You got to make a choice. He works for you!"

Bonaparte said Wednesday that he wanted to wait for the Department of Justice and the Brevard-Seminole State Attorney's Office to finish their investigations before he acts, the Orlando Sentinel reported Wednesday.

Hundreds march in support of Martin family in Miami, New York

The man who fatally shot Miami Gardens teen Martin was not arrested the night of the incident because his self-defense claim “was supported by physical evidence and testimony,” according to Lee.

Police were thus prohibited from arresting Zimmerman, 28, “based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time,” Lee said, as he answered six questions about the case in a statement that was posted on the city's website.

Bonaparte released his statement in response to media attention and “a flood of questions and strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation” about Zimmerman’s shooting of Martin, Bonaparte said.

Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter

Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, shot Martin during a confrontation in a gated community in Sanford on Feb. 26. Martin was returning from a 7-Eleven to his father’s girlfriend’s home at The Retreat at Twin Lakes when the shooting happened.

In his explanation, Lee referred to the “stand your ground” provisions of state law. They say that Floridians have the right “to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force" if they feel threatened. Lee pointed to a part of the statute that says “the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.”

'Stand Your Ground' law could complicate Martin case

Lee said that Zimmerman has a concealed weapon permit, so he was authorized and legally able to carry the gun he used to shoot Martin as a neighborhood watch volunteer.

The Sanford City Commission passed a vote of "no confidence" in police Chief Bill Lee Wednesday night over his handling of the Trayvon Martin shooting. Meanwhile, hundreds of demonstrators assembled a "Million Hoodie March" in New York City to call for the arrest of Martin's killer. NBC's Lilia Luciano reports.

Sanford's neighborhood watch handbook, which is also posted on the city's site, says that program participants' main role is to "observe and report suspicious activities" happening in their neighborhood to police.

"What you will not do is get physically involved with any activity you report or apprehension of any suspicious persons. This is the job of the law enforcement agency," it says in bold.

On another page that spells out watch members' responsibilities, the handbook says, "Remember always that your responsibility is to report crime. Do not take any risks to prevent a crime or try to make an arrest. The responsibility for apprehending criminals belongs to the police department."

Zimmerman did not follow those instructions, according to police and Martin's family members and attorneys. Instead, he followed Martin on that night, disregarding a dispatcher's statement that "you don't need to do that," Lee said.

But that suggestion was "not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow," Lee said.

Martin's final phone call with his girlfriend painted a starker picture, according to Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump.

He said that Martin got caught in the rain, put on his hoodie and was running to take cover, and then noticed, as he told his girlfriend, that "this dude is following me."

She told him to be careful and run home, and he momentarily lost Zimmerman. But then he told her that Zimmerman was right behind him again, and she told him to run, Crump said.

"He says 'I'm not gonna run, I'm just gonna walk fast,'" Crump said.

The fatal confrontation that ended Martin's life happened moments later.

Msnbc.com staff contributed to this report from NBCMiami.com.

Thousands attend Sanford rally for Trayvon Martin

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Sanford, Florida -- Thursday evening Reverend Al Sharpton, the President of the National Action Network, was part of a National Rally for Justice in memory of Trayvon Martin. 

The rally was going to be held at a church but it wasn't large enough to accommodate the thousands of people who wanted to attend.  Instead, the event was held near downtown Sanford at Ft. Mellon Park.

Trayvon Martin is the unarmed Black teenager who was shot and killed in a gated community in Sanford nearly a month ago by a White neighborhood watch captain, 28-year-old George Zimmerman.

Despite Rev. Sharpton learning of his mother's death Thursday morning, he told the crowd he had to attend because she would have wanted that.

He said, "One side of me said don't come but the other side of me said my mother raised me to stand up for justice. My mother would have been ashamed of me if I wasn't here. This mother has to bury her son that is unnatural."

Sharpton brought politicians, civil rights activists and celebrities with him and he didn't just talk to the crowd he encouraged them to donate thousands of dollars to Trayvon Martin's family. He said Trayvon's mother and father have missed a lot of work in the days after their son's death and they need financial help.

The crowd slipped checks and cash into bright orange buckets that were passed throughout the crowd. Many of the lawmakers and celebrities donated thousands of dollars from the stage.

Sharpton said, "We're going to finance our own movement."

A hush fell over the crowd and some cried as Trayvon's mother Sybrina Fulton spoke at

the podium. She poured her heart out to the crowd. 

With tears in her eyes Fulton said, "I stand up before you today not knowing how I'm walking right now because my heart hurts for my son. Trayvon is my son. Trayvon is your son. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for all your support."

Many people in the audience wore hoodies while others brought Skittles candies with them.

Reverend Sharpton told the crowd, "You cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don't talk to us like we're stupid. Don't talk to us like we're ignorant. We love our children just like you love yours. Lock him up!"

There were Blacks and Whites at the rally with one goal in mind. They are demanding the arrest of George Zimmerman. U.S.

"What has happened here is not acceptable here, nowhere in Florida, nowhere in the country, and nowhere in the world. I only want one thing and it's real simple. I want an arrest," said Representative Corrine Brown, (D) Florida District 3.

When the crowd started to boo and yell "liar" when Sanford's Mayor, Jeff Triplett, spoke to the crowd giving his condolences to Trayvon's family, Congresswoman Brown asked him to come back to the stage.  She told the crowd to respect Triplett because after a 5-hour meeting with him he agreed to release the 9-1-1 tapes.

She also praised Mayor Triplett for flying out to Washington, D.C. the next day to meet with her and other lawmakers along with the Department of Justice.

Michael Baisden, host of the Michael Baisden Show, told the crowd, "You can lock up Michael Vick for killing dog and we can't get justice for a young black boy. That ain't right."

Civil Rights activist, Martin Luther King, III told the crowd, "This is not a one-day event but we will continue to come until justice is done." 

Organizers of the rally say this is really just the beginning, they plan to attend a city commissioners meeting on Monday, with Baltimore Ravens football player Ray Lewis, retired Hall of Fame NBA player Patrick Ewing and civil rights leader Jesse Jackson.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skittles For TrayvonIn the wake of the growing social media campaign to inundate the Sanford Police Department with Skittles to protest the killing of  17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was armed with a menacing pack of Skittles when he was gunned downed by neighborhood vigilante-murderer, George Zimmerman, a spokesperson for the company has issued a statement regarding the tragedy, reports MSNBC.

 

SEE ALSO: Trayvon Mom: ‘Someone Must Be Punished’

We are deeply saddened by the news of Trayvon Martin’s death and express our sincere condolences to his family and friends. We also respect their privacy and feel it inappropriate to get involved or comment further as we would never wish for our actions to be perceived as an attempt of commercial gain following this tragedy.”

Extremely classy and appropriate statement Skittles. The candy is currently produced and marketed by the Wm. Wrigley Jr. Company, a division of Mars, Inc.

Though there is growing backlash to the campaign, with many concerned supporters saying that the candy will do nothing but provide a snack for the Sanford PD, if you would still like to send an empty pack of Skittles to the police department, send it here:


Bill Lee
Chief of Police
815 West 13th Street
Sanford, Florida 32771
Phone: 407-688-5070
Fax: 407-688-5071






Obama: ‘If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.’

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President Barack Obama

 

 

President Barack Obama made a searingly personal plea on Friday for Americans to come together and do some "soul searching" after the shooting death of African-American Florida teenager Trayvon Martin by a neighborhood watchman, noting: "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."

 

"My main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. And you know, I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and that we're get to the bottom of exactly what happened," Obama said in response to a shouted question in the White House Rose Garden.

 

Amid angry charges that race played a central role in the tragedy, Obama said "all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happenand that means that we examine the laws and the context for what happened as well as the specifics of the incident."

 

The U.S. Justice Department has announced that it's conducting its own investigation into whether Zimmerman, whose father is white and whose mother is from Peru, is guilty of a hate crime by targeting Martin, an African-American, on the basis of his race."I'm the head of the executive branch, and the attorney general reports to me so I've got to be careful about my statements to make sure that we're not impairing any investigation that's taking place right now," the president said.

 

"Obviously this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids. And I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this and that everybody pulls together, federal, state and local to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened," the president said.

 

Obama's comments came just days after his chief spokesman, Jay Carney, had deflected questions about the incident, telling reporters "we're not going to wade into a local law-enforcement matter."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Online Hoodie Photos Show Anger, Solidarity

 

Date: Friday, March 23, 2012, 5:01 am
By: Leanne Italie, Associated Press

 

"I wanted to stand with all the young people who are standing up for justice for Trayvon Martin," said Marian Wright Edelman.

NEW YORK (AP) — The famous and the unsung took to Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr in hooded sweatshirts Thursday in solidarity with the family of a black teenager shot to death by a Hispanic neighborhood watch captain in Florida.

The spontaneous social media effort by dozens came a day after a few hundred people joined the Million Hoodie March on Wednesday night to protest the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

They changed their profile pictures and tweeted photos of themselves wearing hoodies, many also posing the question: "Do I look suspicious?" or using the Twitter hashtag "IAmTrayvonMartin" in a show of frustration and outrage.

Former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm and Marian Wright Edelman, who heads the Children's Defense Fund, joined the fray, which included everyone from grandmothers to a group of law students from Howard University.

"I wanted to stand with all the young people who are standing up for justice for Trayvon Martin," Edelman said in a statement. "I wanted to protest that Walking While Black and wearing a hoodie should lead to a death sentence in America."

No arrests have been made in the case, angering Trayvon's father, Tracy Martin, and the family's supporters.

More than 100 commenters on Facebook cheered the photo posted by Granholm, host of "The War Room" on the progressive cable network Current TV. She served two terms as governor before term limits ended her administration.

"The hoodie is a way of expressing support for the Martin family, and for all the sons of African-American families who bear the heavy burden of other people's negative assumptions," Granholm said in an email.

Trayvon died Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla. He was returning to the home of his father's fiancée in a gated community in the city after buying candy at a convenience store. He was unarmed and was wearing a hoodie.

The neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, has not been charged in the shooting. Zimmerman has said the teen attacked him and he shot him in self-defense.

Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee, who has been excoriated for not arresting Zimmerman, temporarily stepped down Thursday, saying he had become a distraction to the investigation.

Adrienne Garrett, 37, a family and community involvement coordinator for a middle school in St. Petersburg, Fla., said she tweeted herself with dark hood up and bangs peeking out to support Trayvon's mother and family.

"I feel for her," Garrett said. "Being in the school system and seeing these young boys, it's hard for them to go out and be safe without being profiled. It's just frustrating, and it's been going on for years and years."

There are so many people trying to pimp this issue. Mars candy company is making money hand over fist and idiots are giving them their money in the name of protest. Then you have the people who are hosting a Hoodies and Heels event at a night club in Orlando. Everyone is trying to turn a profit on this. If people wanted to help, instead of buying Skittles or a new hoodie send that $1 or $40 to an African American organization of your choice, send the money to the Martin/Fulton family. Stop throwing the money away.

Originally Posted by nuggyt:

Btw, it really has become tiring to say Vick went to prison for killing dogs.  He didn't it was for  Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities and to Sponsor a Dog in an Animal Fighting Venture 

Its so tiring to see your silly points. Basically no matter how the law is dressed up, bottom line is Michael Vick did go to jail for killing dogs through dog fighting on his property, he was held responsible. 

Also fact of the matter is, he went to jail for harming animals, while George Zimmerman is walking free for killing a human.

 

Now if you can justify that, please give it your best shot. Pun intended.

Originally Posted by Yemaya:

"There are so many people trying to pimp this issue. Mars candy company is making money hand over fist and idiots are giving them their money in the name of protest. Then you have the people who are hosting a Hoodies and Heels event at a night club in Orlando. Everyone is trying to turn a profit on this. If people wanted to help, instead of buying Skittles or a new hoodie send that $1 or $40 to an African American organization of your choice, send the money to the Martin/Fulton family. Stop throwing the money away."

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I feel you Yemaya, and you are right.  But, I guess we have to see it as a good omen, in that, as long as people are out there doing Something, or as long a there are people out there trying capitalize on it, the longer what happened to Trayvon, and countless others will stay in the news and on people's minds.

Originally Posted by Yemaya:

There are so many people trying to pimp this issue. Mars candy company is making money hand over fist and idiots are giving them their money in the name of protest. Then you have the people who are hosting a Hoodies and Heels event at a night club in Orlando. Everyone is trying to turn a profit on this. If people wanted to help, instead of buying Skittles or a new hoodie send that $1 or $40 to an African American organization of your choice, send the money to the Martin/Fulton family. Stop throwing the money away.

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This makes a good point to what the lady whose family went on the "Buy Black" campaign wrote in her book and said in her interview that I watched recently .... about "not circulating our Black dollars with the Black community."

 

The makers of Skittles and Hoodies are NOT Black!!  That money is leaving our communities never to return again. 

 

And that IS something we DO need to think about in times like this.

 

However ... I do agree with Sunnubian ... keeping this issue 'front and center' is extremely important!!!  Unfortunately, we had a case here recently where several Houston police officers did a "Rodney King" on a young teenaged boy accused of trying to break into a storage facility.  It took months to get the video of that beating released ... but, it was found that the Mayor, the Police Chief, the DA's office and the court system hid/buried/covered up this tape to protect the officers and themselves.

 

Public outcry made the "Feds" agree to investigate.  There hasn't been one word said about this travesty of justice ever since. 

VERY INTERESTING ..... I was watching an international news program last night .... and they identified Mr. Zimmerman as "half-Hispanic" instead of just "White"!!! 

 

Now ... that was one of the first things I noticed about his picture when I first saw it!!  I thought he was Hispanic, too!!  But, our media only calls him "White." (No doubt because it enhances the sensationalism of the story to make it a 'Black vs. White" thing.  Or maybe it's a 'reverse one-drop-rule' thing (new to the scene) that's now being applied.  Or maybe it's just not supposed to matter. 

 

However .... considering the fact that it's more and more been coming to light that Hispanics really don't like us any better than White people do ... that they're just as violent towards us as White people have always been ... and that their prejudices and stereotypes against us are just as strong ... aside from the fact that we don't need that kind of 'race war' jumping off here right now ... (we have enough problems as it is! ) ....

 

I'm wondering if we shouldn't be a little more concerned about this??  We're blaming the old, tried-and-true, Black vs. White 'race war' for what happened .. but, in reality, the facts are a lot less 'cut-and-dried' than they appear to be.  And we (Black people) may not be dealing with or seeing this situation as it truly is.

Black people have GOT to REALIZE and ACCEPT that American/Western White racist have thoroughly brainwashed and socially conditioned EVERY race of people on earth to either hate Black people or believe that they should hate Black people or believe that they are somehow superior to Black people.  

 

In Zimmerman's case, I believe that he had some obsession with being a cop wannabee, and I believe that since he is "half-White" (now that Jews are considered White in this country), he was trying to get a pat on the head from White people by showing that he is racist against Black people, as it is with all other minorities in America that have some 'hatred' for Black people.  

 

Funny, how the majority of Black people in America don't really even know any or many other minorities, even Latinos/Hispanics in a lot of parts of the country, yet, even though non of these minorities have ever really had any contact with or problem from any Black people, they somehow do not like Black people.  That alone tells you that Racist Whites have socially conditioned these people with their media/Hollywood stereotyping propaganda machine to feel that way in the first place.  It also tells anyone with any sense, that people who blindly jump on someone's bandwagon of hatred against another group for no other reason than to get brownie points or as a virtual beg for those people with all the hatred to like or accept them, they, themselves have a problem and should not be trusted any farther than you can see and hear them.  

 

Another thing, in my opinion is that most of the minorities that come to this country that automatically side with racist against Black people, usually come from countries where they have been under oppressive governments or religious dogma for so long that it is all they know, i.e., bow down to and kiss the ass of the one(s) that have the power, and in this case, would be White people in America, many of whom are racists against Black people.

 

The reason that what I have said is true is the fact that even though any given minority in America that has had some problem with a Black person or even some Black people, out of the 40+Million Black people in this country, they always come away with some 'hatred' for or 'dislike' or 'disrespect' for ALL Black people because of it.  However, these same people many of whom come from countries that America/the West/White people has/have inflicted devastating harm on or attempted to take over their country, and/or had their people living as servants to Whites in their own land or were treated by Westerners the same way that Black people were at one time treated in this country, these same minorities will come to this country and attempt to perpetrate the same racism and hatred, etc., on Blacks that those same Whites have on their own people at one time or another in history:

 

North and South America:

We all know the affect of Imperialism on these continents


Japan:  

Hiroshima 

Japan forced to enter into trade with the United States on behalf of the U.S. government

forced to sign a treaty permitting trade and the opening of Japanese ports to U.S. merchant ships


          

China:  

The British forced China to open itself to the Opium trade in the 1840's

i.e., the British bogarded China in order to take over their Opium Trade(can you say Afghanistan?) 

 

 

Middle East:

"The Middle East, a region of substantial wealth and resources at the turn of the 19th century became a prime target.

The British and French practiced a foreign policy throughout the Middle East that not only disrupted the economies of the said countries, but created a system whereby the European powers extracted raw materials and opened markets throughout the region. The system was protected through political diplomacy which took place under the shadow of British and French military forces."

 

India:

Ruled by the British for 90 years . . .

 

Africa:

We all know what happened to Africa, and why, and what is still happening to Africa.

 

 

 

In other words:  and, other minorities have the nerve to hate Black people?

 

I have been trying to post an ABC (local) News video where the reporter states that Trayvon made a 911 call himself right before he died.  I don't know why its not taking the embed code now, but the website is:  http://abclocal.go.com/wls/html5/video?id=8593399&pid=null&section=null
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally Posted by sunnubian:

Black people have GOT to REALIZE and ACCEPT that American/Western White racist have thoroughly brainwashed and socially conditioned EVERY race of people on earth to either hate Black people or believe that they should hate Black people or believe that they are somehow superior to Black people.  

 

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This is true!!!  But I would also add that, unfortunately, it's not JUST Americans ... or JUST in America where Black people are vilified, devalued, degraded, or discriminated against.

 

It is all over the world.  And even in AFRICA.

 

In the countries where these other minorities come from to America, the Black/African-descended people are ALWAYS considered on the bottom rung, second-class citizens ... where they lack rights or a political voice or even the human respect not to be tortured and abused.  The Black citizens in their countries are always the majority of the poverty and illiteracy rates.  They're the section of the citizenry that nobody cares about or respects or are afforded civil rights.

 

In Mexico, all down through South America, Africa, Asia (remember the story of the half-Black, half-Asian teenaged singer who won a TV show competition but was called racial slurs by the press that hurt her little feelings??), Europe (they just had a Trayvon Martin moment not too long ago that resulted in violent protest and rioting) ... it doesn't matter WHERE you go!!

 

The Black population there is marginalized.  And so these people come over here with ALREADY negative preconceived notions.  And the White supremacy machine only reinforces already-unjustified racial hatred and attitudes against us as African Americans through the images seen on TV and in videos. and things like the proliferation of racist laws that cause unjustified high incarceration rates among our people.

 

The United States is probably the most advanced when it comes to Black civil rights ... as helluv scary as that may sound!! 

 

@ Ebony Rose.  You are sooooo right my sista.  America is extremely advance in its thinking with it relates to black people.  And that’s because, despite its ongoing racism, it is evolving into a consciousness that includes all people-a real life reflection of what the world truly is.  And black people set the stage for that.  Not so for other countries who continue to struggle with human rights as if they are above being human-this just shows how inhumane, primitive in their thinking....many folks in other countries are.  Totally unfortunate.  Cuz as long as they continue to be this way....they will continue to have an intellectual blockage that will affect their social development and they will have to continue to look for other countries for human advancement:  in technological, quality of life, literacy and just pure awareness of what’s going on in the world.  These folks will continue to trapped with their savage mindset that says it is okay to enslave, encroach, mistreat and bully another human being simple cuz they do not WANT to evolve out that simpleton flintstone mentality [that’s  thousands of years old]that continues to burden their progress and growth.  History shows as long as we have folks in other countries with blind eyes...they will NEVER see the light of freedom....that includes freedom for themselves as human beings.  But! This won’t last too much longer, cuz we are currently experiencing the shift.  It’s here.  But!   

 

BTW:  I'm sooooooo glad to see such an outpour.  Even though I did my part on this young man's behalf, I have deliberately stayed in the back ground of this cuz it is a deep reminder of what happened to my son-making it extremely difficult to engage in the convo on this forum.  However, I am totally speechless and grateful at the same time that currently black folks [especially-thank God!] didn't turn their heads the other way and say that's the way of the world as some usually do.  Trayvon represents ALL young black men[young women too] who were killed for years as a result of stupidity, arrogance, the mental illness of racism and societal avoidance.   This is the spark that will finally STOP the senseless killings of our youth.  Again.  Finally!  But! 

  Oh...yall know I am completely happy that my President acknowledge the tragedy of Trayvon Martin.  His personal statement by saying "if I had a son, he would look like Trayon," assures me of the dynamic-in-touch-with-what's-going-on-in-HIS-country type of President he is.  Yall naysayers can say whatcha want....but!  This is testimony of how remarkable this man is in light of what the media and the haters may say...his comments loudly indicates that he is STILL a black man...first!  And understands the depth of the murder of Trayvon.  As I understand it.  We may never have another opportunity like this to have a black president....but!  I am SOOOOOOOO glad he is my president NOW! So glad.      

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