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How many folks saw the special on M. Jackson. That poor guy really missed out on getting some serious therapy when he was young. And the statement that he had only two operations on his nose and nothing on his face. The dude needs to pull out the photo album and take another look at what he used to look like.

Talking about self hate, even the plastic surgeon that came on after the special said it looked like Mike was trying to be white. Its just not his fault, some of it has to be tossed on the back of his father if you believe all the stories about the abuse the kids suffer through.

Its really sad.
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Yes the man said that! First he said that he had only one nose job, then he corrected himself and said that he had two nose jobs but that was it. In fact the plastic surgeon who looked at Mike said that his nose was past the point of no return, that there was absolutely nothing else that could be done to his nose including any operation to make it look normal.

They actually showed a computer image of what he might have looked like if he had not had any of the operations. The program they used must have been a beta program in testing because it make the dude look bad.

Of course there are the now famous statements that he made that when children sometimes stay at his house he sleeps in the bed with them. Now considering that he paid off some kid and his family after allegrations of sexual abuse, you would think that would be the last thing the man would admit to, but nope he said and he meant it.

Can you imagine if he decided to get therapy now, whoever he saw could probably publish a paper called "Inside the Mind of Michael Jackson" and it would probably be the most read paper of the decade.
I saw that painful interview. I was extremely saddened by most of it. I think that he definitely needs psychiatric help. He has quite a bit of self hate going on, largely due to his up bringing. All of the Jackson's have had plastic surgery, not just Michael. That let's me know that something wasn't right in the Jackson household. Even Michael's so called children look white. They need to take those children out of his custody and give them to their mothers. I just feel really sorry for him.
Explain this to me somebody isn't child abuse just like domestic assualt even if the victim choses not to press charges the state can still press charges and take the offender to jail. All MJ did was pay the kid off but if they had actually swoan statement it seems to me that MJ should have done some jail time even if the kid did not want to press charges because he got paid off. What's going on here with our justice system.
Personally, I did not see anything really disturbing about the interview. To me, he looked more like a human being after seeing the interview-I saw a different side of him-him climbing trees, him laughing with his kids. The only thing I saw was a very lonely, bored man. While he may need some therapy to help deal with his family issues( who doesn't have family issues) besides that I didn't see anything wrong. The interviewer attempted to make Mike look bad and made the interview seem more "disturbing" than it really was. I don't understand why people feel the need to destroy mike emotionally, he is a human being with feelings. Now I don't believe for a second that he has only had two nose jobs, but hey that's his nose he has the right to do what he wants to do with it-who am I to ridicule him for how he decides he wants his nose to look. That whole special dedicated to his various noses was very ignorant to me! This man has made great strides in the music industry, he has crossed color barriers across the globe, and has been known to give large sums of money to charities and organizations everywhere-BUT ALL PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK ABOUT IT HIS NOSE!

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The Lord is on my side;I will not fear:what can man do unto me?
(Psalms 118:6)


If God brings you to it - He will bring you through it.
i didnt see the interview, but the opinions i've heard side with MPG. that mike is a product of his upbringing. his childhood was NOTHING like any of ours--so how can we expect his adulthood to be like ours? people label him crazy or weird because he's different. and yes i agree with that--he's VERY DIFFERENT..but that doesnt make him a freak.
imagine for one day that you were the most famous person rich person in the world. and while that may sound appealing right off the bat--imagine how lonely it would be. not being able to go anywhere without throngs of cameras. not being able to take a walk on your own grounds without being spied on. imagine anything and everything you do or say ending up in print with other people's opinions given about it.
its no wonder he surrounds himself with children and animals. children are pure--they know no opinion, no judgement. animals are even purer. not to mention the fact that he never had the need to move past childhood--everything has always been taken care of for him--so he's really just a 10 yr old in an adult body.
why fault him or call him crazy for the way he came up in the world??

i dont have a problem with mike--he was in fact my first boyfriend (at the age of 6) and he was going to marry me--even though he didn't know it Smile

if you don't know your options, you don't have any!
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people label him crazy or weird because he's different. and yes i agree with that--he's VERY DIFFERENT..but that doesnt make him a freak.


Are we talking about the same Michael Jackson here? The singer? "Stop, the love you save may be your own . . . ." That Michael Jackson? Doesn't one look at him confirm that he's a FREAK?

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imagine for one day that you were the most famous person rich person in the world. and while that may sound appealing right off the bat--imagine how lonely it would be. not being able to go anywhere without throngs of cameras. not being able to take a walk on your own grounds without being spied on. imagine anything and everything you do or say ending up in print with other people's opinions given about it.


Does Bill Gates live in a place called Neverland? Does he sleep with little children? Has he morphed himself to a completely different race (and maybe gender - who knows)? Has he gone through so many plastic surgeries that his face is falling apart?


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not to mention the fact that he never had the need to move past childhood--everything has always been taken care of for him--so he's really just a 10 yr old in an adult body.


Is Michael the only person on earth that has been a child prodigy? You seem to dismiss away a very crucial point. That he perhaps has the emotional maturity of a 10 year old. For someone who is in his mid 40s - isn't that a problem? Sure - let's give him our sympathy, but "let there be no mistake" - he's a freak!

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why fault him or call him crazy for the way he came up in the world??


Because he is the only person in the world that is responsible for his own actions now.

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i dont have a problem with mike--he was in fact my first boyfriend (at the age of 6) and he was going to marry me--even though he didn't know it Smile


You two would have made the perfect couple then too! (at 6 years old!!!) Wink
Does anyone plan on watching Micheal's outakes of the interview on thursday? I saw a clip of it where the man who interviewed him, told him that he was a excellent father. I definetely will be watching it.

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The Lord is on my side;I will not fear:what can man do unto me?
(Psalms 118:6)


If God brings you to it - He will bring you through it.

I want to know...why anyone haven't talked to the parents of these children?

Neverland isn't a daycare center, it's Michael's home. No parent in his/her right mind is going to let their child sleepover at a celebrity's house and be tucked in by the celebrity himself. Not even if it was in the Osbourne's household.
Now hold on, you doubters..leave the King of Pop alone. Smile See you people spoke too soon as didn't you catch the follow up documentary, called "Michael Jackson, The things they didn't let you see" or sumptin' like that?

Michael well defended himself against the betrayal. He fought back and in my opinion destroyed the reporter, old what's his name? He showed him up as one who was kissing Michael's you know what, and then turned on him.
I like Michael's ability to fight back. I also on the one hand, like how his family stands by him against the white racist onslaught, yet, on the other hand, hope in privacy they are imploring him to seek help for his damaged outlook on life.

See, I truly think Mike is just a unique asexual person. After all, he is the first CHILD mega-superstar to have gotten all that world attention. The Beatles and Elvis, the only other 2 to excel that height were older young men, with formed personalities whereas Mike was a boy of 7 or 8. Besides that, has anyone noticed how the entire family of Jackson males are real soft spoken and demure? Well, that coupled with Mike's withdrawn personality is what aids in making him look odd.

Of course, buying the elephant man's bones or at least looking into it, makes him look a little wacky. He explained his pre-occupation with his 'chimp' so all you dirty minded people can put that awwwwwwful thought out of your heads... Big Grin

Now as for the 'vigalogo?' Well, I don't believe that at all. I just think the boy wants to be white because he felt himself un-attractive in that beautiful, black walnut skin of his. Actually, Mike is in actuality a self-loathing Negro. How sad! If you'll notice all the little boys around him are 'white.' And then again, why no little girls?

There is something ghastly askew with Michael and I do think his family should quit trying to defend that part of him, and have him get some help. I mean, he himself said, "he's troubled on missing out on a normal boyhood" so it would stand to reason he would need to talk about the anguish to someone who can help him develop himself right.

As for his admission that he does let little boys sleep in his bed, well, he needs to quit that. He also needs to tan himself, because even if he had 'vigalogo?' he could have choosen to put 'black' make-up on but did not. Also Michael, is surrounded with whiteness, and he likes it like that. How sick is that? Eek

All in all, my impression of Michael is that he needs to come hang around some regular black men, and learn how to be 'normal.' However, he chooses 'whiteness' and whiteness is paying him back with this onslaught of hate that is in that racist batch of loons. All I can say is, he is a Confused madman, and in fact his choices are an insult to black women. However, he's just more proof that black women, go it alone. We've got to unite and become a matriarchy unto ourselves with God, and the few righteous black men, on our side, working to liberate ourselves from white racism for we can see, some black males aren't thinking about anything but white girls and how to look and be like the white males who have conquered, oppressed and violated black humanity. Sheeeeeesh! Roll Eyes

[This message was edited by LoveHappiness on February 23, 2003 at 01:21 PM.]

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