Good Lord, man ...

Are you STILL ranting about Merv Dymally after all these years????

Say it isn't so.

quote:

Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Good Lord, man ...

Are you STILL ranting about Merv Dymally after all these years????

Say it isn't so.

...only because of being challenged, again, and again, by both Kweli4Real, and Kevin41. Virtually the entire group of elected Black leadership are an abysmal failure! Just so happens, thus far, there are not enough intelligent Black voters around to keep the likes of a Merv Dymally, and/or others from holding elected office!

Everyday the Black community keeps this trash in elected office, moves the Black community further, and further from any notion of prosperity!

Demographic shifts, as it relates to Hispanics, and/or other immigrants becoming U.S. citizens, will do what the Black community has yet to do, meaning holding elected officials accountable, or removing a Merv Dymally, a Brentwood Burke, etc., to vote for anyone else who is truly competent.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

Oh okay ... well, let me see if I can help ...

Not that they'll listen to me, but ....

Kevin41 and Kweli4Real

Pu-lleeeezzz stop forcing Michael to have to continue to talk about Merv Dymally after all these years!

Whoever is doing that arm-twisting ... just stop it right now, please!! I think he might want to talk about something else ... but as long as you two keep putting this kind of pressure on him, he'll never be able to get anything else out!!


::: Crossing fingers, and hoping this works! :::

quote:

Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Oh okay ... well, let me see if I can help ...

Not that they'll listen to me, but ....

Pu-lleeeezzz stop forcing Michael to have to continue to talk about Merv Dymally after all these years!

Whoever is doing that arm-twisting ... just stop it right now, please!! I think he might want to talk about something else ... but as long as you two keep putting this kind of pressure on him, he'll never be able to get anything else out!!

Crossing fingers, and hoping this works!" by Ebony Rose

This post is within the scope of issues and politics. Politics at the local, county, and state level can be just as important, if not more important than at the federal level.

.....the joke is on the Black community, most all other communities are prospering in comparison. The Black community being the "most poverty stricken, void of employment opportunity, crime infested, breaking up family structures, HIV/Aids infested, death bound, everybody on the take" set of communities in the U.S.

I'm willing to bet, Ebony Rose, as legal and/or illegal Hispanic immigrants gain influence in your neighborhood they won't be looking out for any "Ebony Rose". Texas, Arizona, and California have the largest population of Hispanic legal and illegal immigrants. The "Minute Men" along the Arizona border are exercising their right to bear arms to reduce illegal immigration, immigration that has resulted in damage to real and personal property by illegal immigrants tresspassing on, and/or destroying private property!

The La Raza Movement is Definitely not a movement to move Black people forward!

....and as Hispanics gain political power that Black people lose by being incompetent, the Hispanic elected leaders are not going to serve Black people before serving their own!

....The Black community is losing ground fast, and if our people don't get our act together the future posterity of Blacks within the U.S. will be in jeopardy!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

EbonyRose, I have to admit. I'm the one that has challenged Lofton. Lofton made an absurd accusation, based on the laws of this country. I just called him on it by having him try and prove it.

But my challenge was very specific. I challenged him to provide documentation that Merv Dymally is an illegal immigrant. Period. Not that Dymally is corrupt or unethical or a bad politician or anything else.

I challenged Lofton to either put up the proof or apologize to the board for casting such blatantly spurious accusations.

In my post, I told him that his integrity was on the line; just because he is incapable of saying, "Oops, fellow Black folks, I let my anger (i.e., dysfunction) get the best of me and posted something that I know is not true."

Lofton, if you wanted to remain in your rant and maintain your integrity, you easily could have said, "Merv Dymally is not an illegal immigrant; but he acts in the interest of illegal immigrants."

While I would have called you disingenious, with the correction (i.e., apology) you would be seen as a grown up, rather than a child, unable to admit a mistake.

But as it stands, will someone please change Lofton's pampers?

Ebony,

When people say whatever in the hell they want to me.....I reciprocate...period...sorrry I haven't mastered the art of letting people say insulting stupid schit to me without calling em out on it....people always told us as children not to stoop to another's level....i believe in doing the limbo under their level.....especially if they try to come off as insulting and degrading....rude azz people do not deserve considerate people in return...that is granting them too much of a concession...plus you may help a good person avoid having to put up with their schit........

....Merv Dymally does not serve or respect his constituency, thus his constituency do not have to respect him. Besides, since he has not proven, or shared such information with the press that he is in fact a U.S. citizen, he must be an illegal immigrant! Why don't you Kevin41, and Kweli4Real, since this is your concentration prove that he is a U.S. citizen?

.......until then.....the same response. I suppose the citizen is the servant and the elected officials are the masters????? Sorry to disappoint you, but this will not happen, be it Michael Lofton, or any other responsible voter! Last time I checked, the taxpayers are the employer, elected officials are the employee, or simply put elected officials are public servants, and not the other way around!


...I'm not about to apologize, be it to Merv Dymally or otherwise!

Merv Dymally being Typical, the Typical Black Elected Representatives, are Elected Officials in Name Only!

All elected representatives are sworn under oath to uphold the respective State and U.S. Constitutions. This is most important in any issue of truly warranted redress between a law abiding citizen, and blatant violation(s) of law, by the respective State, and/or U.S. Constitutional protections.

The General:

It is not a new revelation as to the failure of former Congressman, now California State Assemblyman Merv Dymally, 2nd District Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, A.K.A. "Brentwood Burke", former Los Angeles City Councilman Nate Holden, carpet-bagging 10th District Los Angeles City Councilman Martin Ludlow, former 10th District Councilman Dave Cunningham, former Assemblywoman Theresa Hughes, Congresswomen Diane Watson, Congresswoman Maxine Waters, etc.,etc., have failed to serve the communities that each of these individuals are sworn under oath and mandated by law to serve.

General and specific published information from multiple sources do exist to show that neither the Black elected leaders, Black lawyers, Black journalists, nor the so-called civil rights groups serve the inner-city:

The General:

The Urban League's campaign to keep blacks down, Black help groups don't really help poor blacks, The Squatter in L.A.s Own Back Yard: Rising Black Poverty, Cartoon and Caption: "We thought you might more easily identify with these names than names like Venice, Watts, Willowbrook, Pacoima, etc....".

The Specific:

Every Black elected official, be it within the State of California and beyond, has been petitioned for redress regarding:

A. The long standing civil suit, Los Angeles Superior Court Case #C895188, filed by Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr., against an institution of government, specifically as applied to the Los Angeles Unified School District. The defendants being the LAUSD have already admitted guilt to each and every allegation.

B. The subsequent destruction of law abiding Black families through the illegal break up of the Black family structure for profit, specifically the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr., family unit. Black Social workers, probation officers, and foster care providers, and so-called religious individuals aided and abetted in the destruction of the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr., family unit for profit, and illicit gain.

C. "Theft by Court", a publication that documents the unlawful arrest, unlawful penal incarceration, and unlawful restitution charged to truly innocent young adult Black males.

D. Lack of competent journalism, as strongly evidenced by the erroneous article, "Squatters Arrested at Courthouse", as published by the Los Angeles Sentinel, the so-called largest Black Owned newspaper on the West Coast, which publishes false information about Black people, specifically as it relates to the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr., family unit, which amounts to "Yellow Journalism".

E. Other atrocities that are also of court record.

The General:

Whenever any law abiding U.S. citizen is denied competent representation, the U.S. and respective State Constitutions, give the citizen the right to run for public office, appeal to the general public via petitions, or other forms of communication.

The Specific:

The void that exists in finding competent mandated representation regarding A, B, and D above made it possible for:

F. Leon E. Lofton, Jr., an educator-administrator to run for the 28th Congressional District against 37th Congressional Representative Yvonne B. Burke, and Tom Neddy, a CPA from Culver City. Between the three candidates, 37th Congressional Representative Yvonne B. Burke, is the only candidate who did not live in the 28th Congressional District.

Documented evidence filed in the Los Angeles County Superior Court by Leon E. Lofton, Jr., to prove that Black elected leaders play games, are truly incompetent, and refuse to honor warranted petitions for redress of a government seriously gone awry allowed Leon E. Lofton, Jr. to run for elected office without submitting a filing fee, by order of the Los Angeles Superior Court. The only additional requirement was in gaining the qualifying signatures of registered voters for his name to be placed on the ballot. Leon E. Lofton, with the support of family, and others in the community who are unsatisfied with the present elected representatives, made it possible for Leon E. Lofton to acquire the necessary signatures to run for elected office.

G. Esther M. Lofton, to run for the 10th Los Angeles City Council District on two occasions, on the platform that city institutions are "elitist and self-serving", and the indictment that the present elected officials, all Black, have failed to competently serve the residents of the 10th Los Angeles City Council District.

H. The Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr., family unit to instruct their representatives, petition government for redress of grievances, and assemble freely to consult the common good.

Any elected official who refuses to serve the law abiding when petitioned for redress for circumstances where government violates the law, is unfit for the duty of elected office holder. Elected representatives by definition are public servants. Public servants serve the people, and not special interest groups, or foreigners, at the expense of the rights of law abiding U.S. citizens. Any elected official who fails to perform the duty as mandated by the sworn under oath of office obligation to perform, is truly incompetent, a misfit, treasonous, and un-American.

Any citizen, naturalized citizen, illegal immigrant, or legal immigrant who holds elected office who fails to perform the duty as mandated by the sworn under oath of office obligation to serve the people, is truly incompetent, a misfit, treasonous, un-American, and has not earned the privileges due a U.S. citizen.

Should this individual be a naturalized citizen, legal immigrant, such an individual remains an illegal immigrant or undocumented, solely because of the tendency to serve foreign interests, at the expense of the rights of law abiding U.S. citizens. U.S. citizenship status is earned by deeds and acting like one, and not by misrepresentations of the essence of what it means to be a U.S. citizen. These individuals, as applied to a no good Merv Dymally, are legal immigrants in name only; their true character is that of an illegal immigrant and/or subversive, first and foremost.

Furthermore it has yet to be published anywhere, when Merv Dymally became a U.S. citizen. In every article it is mentioned that Merv Dymally is a native of Trinidad. Furthermore, when questioned or challenged by his constituency about proof as to if, and when he became a U.S. citizen, Merv Dymally chooses not to come clean with his constituency. Elected officials are servants of the people. Should any citizen question an elected official as to proof of U.S. citizenship status, this should be freely given, even published freely without reservation with respect to anyone who seeks to hold, or run for elected office.

References:

1. Butler, S. M. (1988). The Urban League's campaign to keep blacks down. Los Angeles Herald Examiner, January 29, 1988.

2. Baker, J. (1988). Black help groups don't really help poor blacks. Letters to the Editor. Los Angeles Herald Examiner, February 20, 1988.

3. Anderson, S. (1987). The Squatter in L.A.s Own Back Yard: Rising Black Poverty. Los Angeles Herald Examiner, April 5, 1987.

4. Conrad (1969). Cartoon and Caption: "We thought you might more easily identify with these names than names like Venice, Watts, Willowbrook, Pacoima, etc." Los Angeles Times. March 19, 1969.

5. Los Angeles Times (1974). 3 Candidates Vie for 28th District Congressional Seat. Los Angeles Times, June 2, 1974.

6. Prichard, R. (1987). Candidates bid for hot seat in 10th. Westlake Post City News City Press, April 1, 1987.

7. Keller, D. (1991). A rematch in name only: Holden, Lofton face off for 10th District council seat. Los Angeles Times.

8. The Los Angeles Sentinel (1976). Squatters Arrested at Courthouse. Los Angeles Sentinel, February 19, 1976.

9. Lofton, L.E., Lofton, E.M. (1976). Telegram both wired, and delivered by U.S. mail for redress of serious atrocities that occur in former Congressman Merv Dymally's district.

10. Dymally, M. (1987). Letter by Congressman Merv Dymally addressed to Mrs. Esther M. Lofton, which amounts to an excuse to do nothing but condemn a constituent who petitions his or her elected representative for redress of a government seriously gone awry. Congress of the United States, House of Representatives. April 2, 1987.

11. California Constitution. Retrieved May 2, 2005. Article 1, Sections 1, 2, 3, 7, 9, 13, 17, 19, 22, 24, 26, 28. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_1

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

quote:

Besides, since he has not proven, or shared such information with the press that he is in fact a U.S. citizen, he must be an illegal immigrant!

by Lofton

So, since I've never published in the press that I am human, I must be a duck, Right? That's a fine example of your idiotic thinking. Get a grip. You're losing it.

The fact that he is a elected official, for better or for worse, belies your contention, since citizenship is a prerequiste to holding office.

No person has to prove that they are US Citizens, unless they happen to be brown and live in Texas, Arizona or California.

quote:

Besides, since he has not proven, or shared such information with the press that he is in fact a U.S. citizen, he must be an illegal immigrant! by Lofton

"So, since I've never published in the press that I am human, I must be a duck, Right? That's a fine example of your idiotic thinking. Get a grip. You're losing it.

The fact that he is a elected official, for better or for worse, belies your contention, since citizenship is a prerequiste to holding office.

No person has to prove that they are US Citizens, unless they happen to be brown and live in Texas, Arizona or California." by Kweli4Real

Heck, following standards, obeying the law, respecting the rights of others, respect for the ten commandments, practicing what is preached instead of being no good sacrilegious clergy persons, mean very little in the Black community. Proof that Merv Dymally is a citizen would have to be published, or proven before I would believe that Merv Dymally is not an illegal immigrant. Be it university educated or otherwise, virtually anything goes in the Black community.

Heck, liberal Caucasians and that treasonous Black middle class, don't mind this at all,...... pertaining to an illegal immigrant misfit and treasonous Merv Dymally holding elected office over South Central, Compton, etc., because many times a Merv Dymally, etc., etc., are "puppets" controlled by liberal Caucasians, a treasonous Black middle class, and/or other outsiders, at the expense of "inner-city" residents. Liberal Caucasians, the treasonous Black middle class, and/or others derive benefits they are not entitled to behind these misfits, in a no good misrepresention of the essence of being an elected office holder in a no good illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of inner-city residents sleazy Merv Dymally, "Brentwood Burke", "Nate Holden", etc., etc., that Black people promote.

.....same response:

"Merv Dymally being Typical, the Typical Black Elected Representatives, are Elected Officials in Name Only!

All elected representatives are sworn under oath to uphold the respective State and U.S. Constitutions. This is most important in any issue of truly warranted redress between a law abiding citizen, and blatant violation(s) of law, by the respective State, and/or U.S. Constitutional protections."

Elected officials are public servants. illegal immigrant unfit for public office Merv Dymally is not worthy of respect, and this being said no apology is necessary!

Rules and standards are meaningless in the Black community, thus it would be necessary for a Merv Dymally to show proof that he is in fact a U.S. citizen, for me to believe that he truly is!

Rules and laws are made to be broken in the typical Black community! This is a key reason as to why criminals walk free daily, while truly innocent individuals lose property rights, their freedom, the right to be together as a family,........all with the blessing of the so-called university educated of Black America!

Kweli4Real, Kevin41, and ricardomath can have your own conversation together, because again I'm not about to flip this script!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

No! Not Merv Dymally again!!!

quote:

.....the joke is on the Black community, most all other communities are prospering in comparison. The Black community being the "most poverty stricken, void of employment opportunity, crime infested, breaking up family structures, HIV/Aids infested, death bound, everybody on the take" set of communities in the U.S.

* So this is a joke to you huh Lofton? You celebrate the tragedies of the black community/race daily. I really am coming to believe you are a racist white full of hatred for blacks and self-inadequacy...but if this is how you see it...maybe you'll spend the rest of your life as the miserble f-k you are stewing in your own juices....because if anyone can take such tragedies and speak of it as a joke...then they are hateful sonofabitch who really need to take a self-examination.......but i'm kool.....i'm black and progressive, and proud of it. I do not hate black people at all....and even though i've been through schit with some.....I have seen the full spectrum of what black folks are doing...and much of it is good also.....so in your quest to try and make everyone as miserable and irritated as you are......continue to be narrow-minded and by focusing only on celebrating the bad without offering any solutions, effort or resources..you are a part of the problem also....just imagine how damaging a person like you could be to a black kid's self-perception.....they would grow up with a lack of motivation to be anything listening to you rant and rave about black people....many of my black academic journals have discussed people like you as another one of the pathologies that exist in our race.....you are one fo the kind that will also plant hopelessness in the young with your negativity...you are similar to the kids that say being smart is "acting white"...which just means that the default value os black people to you...is just that we are all f-ked up and incapable of anything worthy....you rail on blacks daily as if everything f-ked up is exclusive to black people and no one else...but hey, that's you...i'm moving on, moning up and trying to take as many brothers and sisters with me as I can.....and f-k the people like you, the other cancers to the black race and the good ole amerikkan racist......

quote:

quote:

.....the joke is on the Black community, most all other communities are prospering in comparison. The Black community being the "most poverty stricken, void of employment opportunity, crime infested, breaking up family structures, HIV/Aids infested, death bound, everybody on the take" set of communities in the U.S." by Lofton

"* So this is a joke to you huh Lofton? You celebrate the tragedies of the black community/race daily. I really am coming to believe you are a racist white full of hatred for blacks and self-inadequacy...but if this is how you see it...maybe you'll spend the rest of your life as the miserble f-k you are stewing in your own juices....because if anyone can take such tragedies and speak of it as a joke...then they are hateful sonofabitch who really need to take a self-examination.......but i'm kool.....i'm black and progressive, and proud of it. I do not hate black people at all....and even though i've been through schit with some.....I have seen the full spectrum of what black folks are doing...and much of it is good also.....so in your quest to try and make everyone as miserable and irritated as you are......continue to be narrow-minded and by focusing only on celebrating the bad without offering any solutions, effort or resources..you are a part of the problem also....just imagine how damaging a person like you could be to a black kid's self-perception.....they would grow up with a lack of motivation to be anything listening to you rant and rave about black people....many of my black academic journals have discussed people like you as another one of the pathologies that exist in our race.....you are one fo the kind that will also plant hopelessness in the young with your negativity...you are similar to the kids that say being smart is "acting white"...which just means that the default value os black people to you...is just that we are all f-ked up and incapable of anything worthy....you rail on blacks daily as if everything f-ked up is exclusive to black people and no one else...but hey, that's you...i'm moving on, moning up and trying to take as many brothers and sisters with me as I can.....and f-k the people like you, the other cancers to the black race and the good ole amerikkan racist......" by Kevin42

.....closer to the reality of it far too many Black people hate themselves and are their own worse enemies!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

Oh well ... guess there's not much I can do, Lofton!

However, answer me this, please ..

Regarding this statement that you made:

quote:

....The Black community is losing ground fast, and if our people don't get our act together the future posterity of Blacks within the U.S. will be in jeopardy!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

What would propose the Black community do to get our act to get together?

quote:

Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Oh well ... guess there's not much I can do, Lofton!

However, answer me this, please ..

Regarding this statement that you made:

quote:

....The Black community is losing ground fast, and if our people don't get our act together the future posterity of Blacks within the U.S. will be in jeopardy!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

What would propose the Black community do to get our act to get together?

stop promoting misfits would be a good start.

.....and it is not just me saying so!

Okay... anything else?

quote:

Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Okay... anything else?

....that is a huge step in the right direction.....

....A successful and prosperous community and an incompetent or misfit leadership are not compatable!

.....and it is not just me saying so!

quote:

Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Oh well ... guess there's not much I can do, Lofton!

However, answer me this, please ..

Regarding this statement that you made:

quote:

....The Black community is losing ground fast, and if our people don't get our act together the future posterity of Blacks within the U.S. will be in jeopardy!

What would propose the Black community do to get our act to get together?

Wow, the world is going mad. Fingers being found in food... Kansas having a court trial on evolution... they're selling 15 pound cheeseburgers... and people here are bothering to ask honest, serious questions of Michael Lofton.

The end of days must be near. The prophecies foretold these signs. All that's left is that Kevin 41 hug Jesse Lee Peterson, and Audio Guy purchase a Li'l Bow-Wow CD. It's time to repent!

Sorry, Vox ...

That "optimistic" thing came over me again. I be trying to make it calm down and be realistic ... but it rears it's ugly head on me now and again!

I apologize for any Armageddon thing I might have put into motion ...

quote:

Originally posted by EbonyRose:
Sorry, Vox ...

That "optimistic" thing came over me again. I be trying to make it calm down and be realistic ... but it rears it's ugly head on me now and again!

I apologize for any Armageddon thing I might have put into motion ...

Ahh, but alas, the forces that thou hast unleashed, once loosed upon us, can never be undone. Even as we write these words, RicardoMath is committing an act of gay bashing, and EgbertSouse has joined the Rainbow-PUSH Coalition. There is nothing left to do now save the waiting...

Sike. I hear you. And sometimes you want to hear what exactly these people haeve to say for themselves, because often their lame commentary can make your point for you better than you could've. Already that seems to be happening here.

Lofton,

You consistently rile against the Black middle-class. But if memory serves me, you claim to be Black. You also claim to be a journeyman electrician. [Median wage: >$50K/yr (source: Dept. of Labor Statistics)] You, therefore, would be a member of both groups you resent. How sick is that?

Or, are you lying about your race and/or career. Could be, (since you've never caused it to be published) you are a white female day laborer that knows how to plug something in.

quote:

Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
Lofton,

You consistently rile against the Black middle-class. But if memory serves me, you claim to be Black. You also claim to be a journeyman electrician. [Median wage: >$50K/yr (source: Dept. of Labor Statistics)] You, therefore, would be a member of both groups you resent. How sick is that?

Or, are you lying about your race and/or career. Could be, (since you've never caused it to be published) you are a white female day laborer that knows how to plug something in.

....still not flipping this script. The only Black middleclass targeted are those who fit the description!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

quote:

These individuals, as applied to a no good Merv Dymally, are legal immigrants in name only; their true character is that of an illegal immigrant and/or subversive, first and foremost.

SO LOFTY....YOU SLID THE TRUTH IN THERE AFTER ALL HUH? SO PEOPLE WHO COME HERE TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THEMSELVES ARE BAD...BUT THE GOOD OLE WHITE MAN WHO STILL PUSHES LEGISLATION THAT IS DETREMENTAL TO YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY IS A OKAY....I HEAR YA....

VOX,

I GIVE UP......I'M JOINING WARD CONNERLY...TOO MANY BLACKS ON CAMPUS FOR ME (SARCASM)....

"SO LOFTY....YOU SLID THE TRUTH IN THERE AFTER ALL HUH? SO PEOPLE WHO COME HERE TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THEMSELVES ARE BAD...BUT THE GOOD OLE WHITE MAN WHO STILL PUSHES LEGISLATION THAT IS DETREMENTAL TO YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY IS A OKAY....I HEAR YA....by Kevin41"

Well Kevin41......


.....making it better for yourself is one thing,

.......misusing the position of elected office to benefit foreign interests, personal friends, self, at the expense of the people you are sworn in under oath of office is another. Illegal immigrant no good treasonous Merv Dymally is not worthy of any respect in any regard!

....The most direct elected officials over a South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Inglewood, etc., are in fact Black people. Again, Caucasians are not responsible for the wrath that Black people perpetrate on each other!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

quote:

Lofton,

You consistently rile against the Black middle-class. But if memory serves me, you claim to be Black. You also claim to be a journeyman electrician. [Median wage: >$50K/yr (source: Dept. of Labor Statistics)] You, therefore, would be a member of both groups you resent. How sick is that?

Or, are you lying about your race and/or career. Could be, (since you've never caused it to be published) you are a white female day laborer that knows how to plug something in. by Kweli4Real

"Fail to accept the challenge and I will start a thread entitled, "Lofton is a lying back-tracking cowardly liar." by Kweli4Real

"However, this can be avoided by clearly posting that you were/are mistaken. You might lose a little face, but at least you will gain the reputation as a man of integrity, strong enough to admit an error." by Kweli4Real

....still waiting Kweli4Real. I want you to start this thread, so that I can put the angle of truth on it. Come with it Kweli4Real. It will give me yet one more opportunity to circulate the reality of it!

"I'm not asking that you apologize to Dymally. I would have ask anyone to apologize for their opinions of an elected official.

However, your statement [that Dymally is an illegal immigrant] was presented as a statement of fact.

I've challenged you to apology to the members of this board FOR your spurious allegation that Dymally is an illegal immigrant.

An opinion is one thing; but a statement of fact is quite another. Opinions require nothing more the the breathe to make them; however, statements may require support.

Do you see the difference?" by Kweli4Real

....again, I'm not about to flip this script.

Furthermore no good illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of South Central Los Angeles no good Merv Dymally, is not worthy of any respect, nor is it worthy of apologizing to any member of this board to retract anything said about no good Merv Dymally!

Since you admire him, or otherwise, maybe you should apologize for having the gall to even consider asking for any apology from me, for a Merv Dymally, Brentwood Burke, etc, etc., who are definitely unfit for elected office!

Make your move, because again I'm not changing anything!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

nothing is worse than a fool but a fool that is determined to remain one.......Lofton...you should apologize to your damn self for being how you are....hate-filled and inaccurate....but hey...better you than me.....

So is there any documentation to prove that Dymally is an illegal immigrant? I would think that since you hate him so......you could prove it yourself and have him kicked out of office....that is what I would do if I was that disturbed by him being in office and I had such facts that show he is not qualified to hold the office....but I guess since you will never find any facts that you cannot do anything but rant on and on in this message board in this tiny little corner of the Internet......wow

quote:

Originally posted by Kevin41:
nothing is worse than a fool but a fool that is determined to remain one.......Lofton...you should apologize to your damn self for being how you are....hate-filled and inaccurate....but hey...better you than me.....

So is there any documentation to prove that Dymally is an illegal immigrant? I would think that since you hate him so......you could prove it yourself and have him kicked out of office....that is what I would do if I was that disturbed by him being in office and I had such facts that show he is not qualified to hold the office....but I guess since you will never find any facts that you cannot do anything but rant on and on in this message board in this tiny little corner of the Internet......wow

....same response!!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

Same question Lofty......So is there any documentation to prove that Dymally is an illegal immigrant?

quote:

Originally posted by Kevin41:
Same question Lofty......So is there any documentation to prove that Dymally is an illegal immigrant?

......same response,

.....nor has it been proven where illegal immigrant-serving-foreign-interests-at-the- expense-of-South-Central-Los-Angeles-unfit-to-hold-the-position-of-so-much-as-"dog catcher"-let-alone-California-State-Assemblyman, in no good Merv Dymally.

It has yet to be proven where he is a citizen. Even if it was proven that he is a citizen, he is still a misfit, and unfit to hold elected office, in any capacity.

....but I suppose, speaking of a no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally

.....serving foreign interests at the expense of the residents of a Compton, South Central Los Angeles, etc., the 52nd State Assembly District in a Compton, or South Central Los Angeles, would include Africa, Asia, the Caribbeans, or other foreign countries??

Enough of no good illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of South Central Los Angeles no good Merv Dymally. I've condemned many of the so-called Black elected leaders, the Black middle class, etc., etc., with good reason for doing so!

One need not look far for new material as applied to Ghettopoly in Real Life, than to observe the actions of no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, "Brentwood" Burke, Reverend Jesse Jackson, Ambulance Chasing Attorney Johnny Cochran, "Kerosene" Waters, Killer/Butcher King Hospital, "Little Napoleon" Marc Ridley Thomas, "Always Missing in Action" Congresswoman Diane Watson, the Felon turned Preacher former Congressman Walter Tucker, in a class of poverty pimps beyond all others no good Poverty Pimping Danny Bakewell, etc., etc., etc., and the so-called Black middleclass and/or university educated who protect, defend, serve, and praise this trash!

....and to think, the Felony Cocaine Snorting former Washington D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, topped it all. Marion Barry would be a "Saint" when compared to these individuals!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

quote:

It has yet to be proven where he is a citizen. Even if it was proven that he is a citizen, he is still a misfit, and unfit to hold elected office, in any capacity.

* Ah...i see you are trying to open a backdoor to weasel out of since you cannot prove your statement......there is nothing more pitiful as an intellectual coward......people who say shit, try to be vain and stick to it.....and then try to disguise their distancing from THEIR very own original statment...please lofton....org behavior and industrial psychology discusses such tactics on the part of individuals...classic textbook behavior patterns.....wow.....you do make good case study material for class discussion though......

Mervyn M. Dymally, Ph.D. (born May 12, 1926 in Cedros, Trinidad and Tobago) is a California politician. Currently a member of the California State Assembly, Dymally was previously a member of the United States House of Representatives, Lieutenant Governor of California and the first African American to serve in the California State Senate. As a member of the House of Representative, he was the first foreign-born black Member of Congress and the first Person of Indian Origin to serve in the U.S. Congress.



IV MEMBERSHIP


The House and the Senate have similar membership requirements. The Senate includes two senators from each of the 50 states, elected for six-year terms. To be a senator, a person must be at least 30 years old, a citizen for nine years, and a resident of the state from which he or she is elected. Most members of Congress have served in state legislatures, city councils, or other elected bodies

Are there requirements to become a Member of the House of Representatives?
Requirements for membership in the House of Representatives are provided in Article I, Section 2 of the US Constitution:

"No person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen."
These requirements cannot be changed without a constitutional amendment.

quote:

Originally posted by Kevin41:
Are there requirements to become a Member of the House of Representatives?
Requirements for membership in the House of Representatives are provided in Article I, Section 2 of the US Constitution:

"No person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen."
These requirements cannot be changed without a constitutional amendment.

......same response,

.....nor has it been proven where illegal immigrant-serving-foreign-interests-at-the- expense-of-South-Central-Los-Angeles-unfit-to-hold-the-position-of-so-much-as-"dog catcher"-let-alone-California-State-Assemblyman, in no good Merv Dymally.

It has yet to be proven where he is a citizen. Even if it was proven that he is a citizen, he is still a misfit, and unfit to hold elected office, in any capacity.

....but I suppose, speaking of a no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally

.....serving foreign interests at the expense of the residents of a Compton, South Central Los Angeles, etc., the 52nd State Assembly District in a Compton, or South Central Los Angeles, would include Africa, Asia, the Caribbeans, or other foreign countries??

Enough of no good illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of South Central Los Angeles no good Merv Dymally. I've condemned many of the so-called Black elected leaders, the Black middle class, etc., etc., with good reason for doing so!

One need not look far for new material as applied to Ghettopoly in Real Life, than to observe the actions of no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, "Brentwood" Burke, Reverend Jesse Jackson, Ambulance Chasing Attorney Johnny Cochran, "Kerosene" Waters, Killer/Butcher King Hospital, "Little Napoleon" Marc Ridley Thomas, "Always Missing in Action" Congresswoman Diane Watson, the Felon turned Preacher former Congressman Walter Tucker, in a class of poverty pimps beyond all others no good Poverty Pimping Danny Bakewell, etc., etc., etc., and the so-called Black middleclass and/or university educated who protect, defend, serve, and praise this trash!

....and to think, the Felony Cocaine Snorting former Washington D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, topped it all. Marion Barry would be a "Saint" when compared to these individuals!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

Now Lofton....it takes 9 or 7 years of citizenship to be a member of the Senate and House, respectively....now do you really think a foreign-born black man would get to bypass those requirements and get in Congress anyway?

This is what I mean by intellectual laziness.......you were lazy to even say that shit without looking it up.....but to continuously defend the statement without looking it up after being challenged on its validity makes you downright arrogantly stupid......but you have the nerve to call me pompous.....if i'm pompous, what do you call a person who thinks something is right just because THEY said it? now that buddy is POMPOUS...

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 5 EXECUTIVE


SEC. 2. The Governor shall be an elector who has been a citizen of the United States and a resident of this State for 5 years immediately preceding the Governor's election.

SEC. 9. The Lieutenant Governor shall have the same qualifications as the Governor.


Mervyn M. Dymally, Ph.D. (born May 12, 1926 in Cedros, Trinidad and Tobago) is a California politician. Currently a member of the California State Assembly, Dymally was previously a member of the United States House of Representatives, Lieutenant Governor of California and the first African American to serve in the California State Senate. As a member of the House of Representative, he was the first foreign-born black Member of Congress and the first Person of Indian Origin to serve in the U.S. Congress.

quote:

Originally posted by Kevin41:
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 5 EXECUTIVE


SEC. 2. The Governor shall be an elector who has been a citizen of the United States and a resident of this State for 5 years immediately preceding the Governor's election.

SEC. 9. The Lieutenant Governor shall have the same qualifications as the Governor.


Mervyn M. Dymally, Ph.D. (born May 12, 1926 in Cedros, Trinidad and Tobago) is a California politician. Currently a member of the California State Assembly, Dymally was previously a member of the United States House of Representatives, Lieutenant Governor of California and the first African American to serve in the California State Senate. As a member of the House of Representative, he was the first foreign-born black Member of Congress and the first Person of Indian Origin to serve in the U.S. Congress.

....again, seeing is believing because following rules, respect for law, being ethical, although stressed in most every other community, continue to miss the mark in the typical Black community, South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Oakland, Inglewood, etc., being typical!!


......same response,

.....nor has it been proven where illegal immigrant-serving-foreign-interests-at-the- expense-of-South-Central-Los-Angeles-unfit-to-hold-the-position-of-so-much-as-"dog catcher"-let-alone-California-State-Assemblyman, in no good Merv Dymally.

It has yet to be proven where he is a citizen. Even if it was proven that he is a citizen, he is still a misfit, and unfit to hold elected office, in any capacity.

"The presumed front-runner in the race for this Compton-area seat was first elected to the state Assembly some 40 years ago. Mervyn Dymally, a onetime pioneer of black politics in California, is not just a former assemblyman, but also a former lieutenant governor of the state and a former U.S. congressman. Now, at 75, he's seeking office yet again.

Not that Dymally hasn't kept busy during his decade in retirement. La-mentably, he's sold himself again and again to some of the most morally repugnant entities on the planet. He's been the registered lobbyist for two nations under attack for permitting the practice of slavery: Sudan and Mauritania. He's also lobbied for the People's Mujahedeen, the Iraqi-funded underground in Iran. Closer to home, he's signed an amicus brief for Lyndon LaRouche against the Democratic National Committee, and a petition urging Bill Clinton to hire LaRouche as an economic adviser. Closer still, he was a front man for the Cato School of Reason, a chain of charter schools that collapsed in scandal after the Weekly disclosed in 1998 that it was collecting public-education funds for students who were actually paying to attend private schools.

Dymally could win this election because black voters are loyal and because Dymally remains active and respected in the community. More amazing still, the Democratic Party seems unconcerned that Dymally might win. Fortunately, there's a clear alternative. Alexandra "Alex" Gallardo-Rooker is a 23-year activist in (and now vice president of) Communications Workers of America Local 9400. In that capacity, she helped coordinate the remarkable effort of harbor truckers to win recognition from the steamship companies, and has run a number of successful organizing drives and political campaigns. She'd bring to the Legislature a keen sensitivity to the needs of California workers. We shudder to think what Merv Dymally would bring." LA Weekly, March 1-7, 2002.

....but I suppose, speaking of a no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally

.....serving foreign interests at the expense of the residents of a Compton, South Central Los Angeles, etc., the 52nd State Assembly District in a Compton, or South Central Los Angeles, would include Africa, Asia, the Caribbeans, or other foreign countries??

Enough of no good illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of South Central Los Angeles no good Merv Dymally. I've condemned many of the so-called Black elected leaders, the Black middle class, etc., etc., with good reason for doing so!

One need not look far for new material as applied to Ghettopoly in Real Life, than to observe the actions of no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, "Brentwood" Burke, Reverend Jesse Jackson, Ambulance Chasing Attorney Johnny Cochran, "Kerosene" Waters, Killer/Butcher King Hospital, "Little Napoleon" Marc Ridley Thomas, "Always Missing in Action" Congresswoman Diane Watson, the Felon turned Preacher former Congressman Walter Tucker, in a class of poverty pimps beyond all others no good Poverty Pimping Danny Bakewell, etc., etc., etc., and the so-called Black middleclass and/or university educated who protect, defend, serve, and praise this trash!

....and to think, the Felony Cocaine Snorting former Washington D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, topped it all. Marion Barry would be a "Saint" when compared to these individuals!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 5 EXECUTIVE


SEC. 2. The Governor shall be an elector who has been a citizen of the United States and a resident of this State for 5 years immediately preceding the Governor's election.

SEC. 9. The Lieutenant Governor shall have the same qualifications as the Governor.

IV MEMBERSHIP


The House and the Senate have similar membership requirements. The Senate includes two senators from each of the 50 states, elected for six-year terms. To be a senator, a person must be at least 30 years old, a citizen for nine years, and a resident of the state from which he or she is elected. Most members of Congress have served in state legislatures, city councils, or other elected bodies


Are there requirements to become a Member of the House of Representatives?
Requirements for membership in the House of Representatives are provided in Article I, Section 2 of the US Constitution:

"No person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen."
These



Mervyn M. Dymally, Ph.D. (born May 12, 1926 in Cedros, Trinidad and Tobago) is a California politician. Currently a member of the California State Assembly, Dymally was previously a member of the United States House of Representatives, Lieutenant Governor of California and the first African American to serve in the California State Senate. As a member of the House of Representative, he was the first foreign-born black Member of Congress and the first Person of Indian Origin to serve in the U.S. Congress.

....again, seeing is believing because following rules, respect for law, being ethical, although stressed in most every other community, continue to miss the mark in the typical Black community, South Central Los Angeles, Compton, Oakland, Inglewood, etc., being typical!!


......same response,

.....nor has it been proven where illegal immigrant-serving-foreign-interests-at-the- expense-of-South-Central-Los-Angeles-unfit-to-hold-the-position-of-so-much-as-"dog catcher"-let-alone-California-State-Assemblyman, in no good Merv Dymally.

It has yet to be proven where he is a citizen. Even if it was proven that he is a citizen, he is still a misfit, and unfit to hold elected office, in any capacity.

"The presumed front-runner in the race for this Compton-area seat was first elected to the state Assembly some 40 years ago. Mervyn Dymally, a onetime pioneer of black politics in California, is not just a former assemblyman, but also a former lieutenant governor of the state and a former U.S. congressman. Now, at 75, he's seeking office yet again.

Not that Dymally hasn't kept busy during his decade in retirement. La-mentably, he's sold himself again and again to some of the most morally repugnant entities on the planet. He's been the registered lobbyist for two nations under attack for permitting the practice of slavery: Sudan and Mauritania. He's also lobbied for the People's Mujahedeen, the Iraqi-funded underground in Iran. Closer to home, he's signed an amicus brief for Lyndon LaRouche against the Democratic National Committee, and a petition urging Bill Clinton to hire LaRouche as an economic adviser. Closer still, he was a front man for the Cato School of Reason, a chain of charter schools that collapsed in scandal after the Weekly disclosed in 1998 that it was collecting public-education funds for students who were actually paying to attend private schools.

Dymally could win this election because black voters are loyal and because Dymally remains active and respected in the community. More amazing still, the Democratic Party seems unconcerned that Dymally might win. Fortunately, there's a clear alternative. Alexandra "Alex" Gallardo-Rooker is a 23-year activist in (and now vice president of) Communications Workers of America Local 9400. In that capacity, she helped coordinate the remarkable effort of harbor truckers to win recognition from the steamship companies, and has run a number of successful organizing drives and political campaigns. She'd bring to the Legislature a keen sensitivity to the needs of California workers. We shudder to think what Merv Dymally would bring." LA Weekly, March 1-7, 2002.

....but I suppose, speaking of a no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally

.....serving foreign interests at the expense of the residents of a Compton, South Central Los Angeles, etc., the 52nd State Assembly District in a Compton, or South Central Los Angeles, would include Africa, Asia, the Caribbeans, or other foreign countries??

Enough of no good illegal immigrant serving foreign interests at the expense of South Central Los Angeles no good Merv Dymally. I've condemned many of the so-called Black elected leaders, the Black middle class, etc., etc., with good reason for doing so!

One need not look far for new material as applied to Ghettopoly in Real Life, than to observe the actions of no good illegal immigrant Merv Dymally, "Brentwood" Burke, Reverend Jesse Jackson, Ambulance Chasing Attorney Johnny Cochran, "Kerosene" Waters, Killer/Butcher King Hospital, "Little Napoleon" Marc Ridley Thomas, "Always Missing in Action" Congresswoman Diane Watson, the Felon turned Preacher former Congressman Walter Tucker, in a class of poverty pimps beyond all others no good Poverty Pimping Danny Bakewell, etc., etc., etc., and the so-called Black middleclass and/or university educated who protect, defend, serve, and praise this trash!

....and to think, the Felony Cocaine Snorting former Washington D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, topped it all. Marion Barry would be a "Saint" when compared to these individuals!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

Hey, Lofton

Remember the time that you claimed that Congresswoman Shirley Chisolm was not a US citizen, and that she held her office illegally?

quote:

Originally posted by Kevin41:
It sure would be nice if someone contacted Dymally and he sued your azz for lying on him....

....same response. What is the matter Kevin41 are you afraid that your threat, etc., will backfire. I have assets worth suing for, should you make this move.

....The same for you as well ricardomath. Join up with Kevin41. It will be the "salt and pepper" tag team, wishing upon a star that they can convict Michael Lofton of anything!

I'll give those who choose to do this all the time and energy needed to contact no good illegal immigrant representing foreign interests at the expense of the resident of Compton, South Central Los Angeles, etc. no good Merv Dymally?

Get the ball rolling Kevin41, or Ricardomath, to start legal action against me! Remember now the other guy or gal can't have any skeletons in the closet if they expect to win. Can't go into any court room with dirty hands, and expect to win.

Oh, for that matter, please call them all in, "Brentwood Burke", Nate Holden, Danny Bakewell, Walter Tucker, Kerosene Waters, no good carpetbagging Martin LudLow, Missing in action Diane Watson, etc., etc......and if it were possible to bring the deceased back to life, you can add no good ambulance chasing attorney Johnny Cochran to this list!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton