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As one who carries the appellation of Scrooge (seasonally and theologically) it is refreshing to see that I am not the only one.

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Truth is undoubtedly the sort of error that cannot be refuted because it was hardened into an unalterable form in the long baking process of history... Michel Foucault Hope begets many children illegitimately and prematurely. Allie M. Frazier Beware the terrible simplifiers... Jacob Burckhardt

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Kresge...My favorite Christian! Big Grin

The Paganism doesn't bother me since I am one(a pagan). It's the domination and acceptance of Euro-Paganism that drives me nuts...and the commercialism. If we are gonna be ok with, and enjoy, a fat man and deer flying in the sky, trimming trees, and the yule log, then we should also be fine with our own(and other people's/cultures) historical/cultural paganism. An Egungun(ancestor) costume and few chicken sacrifices...and/or burn some ancestrally empowered Ta Chiu paper horses and fast for a month while reading a religious book...while spinning a dradle...something other than Euro-peganism{Saturnalia, Mithraism}..every culture has it's pagan winter solstice celebration...Let's have a multi-cultural Pagan one for the Gods' sakes!...At least it would be fair, politically correct, and well balanced!

Happy ChristmaTaChiuHanuRamadaKwanzaaakka everyone!

And as the ancient African multi-genious Imhotep said...

"Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow you will die!"


P.S. My favorite Euro-Pagan contradiction of "the season" is Nativity sceens that simultaneousely include palm trees and SNOW!(let alone the white Jesus, Mary, and Joseph)

{Paganism, in the broadest sense includes all religions other than Christianity, Judaism, and Mohammedanism. The term is also used as the equivalent of Polytheism (q.v.). It is derived from the Latin pagus, whence pagani (i. e. those who live in the country), a name given to the country folk who remained heathen after the cities had become Christian. Various forms of Paganism exist(e.g. Brahminism, Buddhism, Mithraism)
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When people celebrate Christmas, in essence, what they are really celebrating is Mary, Jospeph, and the immaculate conception of the birth of Jesus. According to Yosef A.A. ben-Jochannan, the author of The Nile Civilization and the Spread of African Culture (1986), the Mary, Joseph, and Jesus triology is derived from the African Egyptian Isis, Osiris, and their immaculately conceived son Horus. Therefore, according to Jochannan, there is no "pagan" relationship to this Christian (Jewish) translation of Egyptian Mythology. Any other activties contributed toward this celebration are only done to make the holiday more festive and exciting. Would you attend a birthday party for example, just to tell someone Happy Birthday, then leave? And not participate in the "extra" activities that goes along with the celebration, such as socializing, presenting gifts to the guest of honor, and the tasting of food? I too become frustrated around holiday times and distrubed by all of the hooplah surrounding the holiday, but then I remember that everything that the Christian knows about religion, spirituality, and a Higher being was handed down to him from earlier African Civilizations. We know that Africans are a very old and ancient people and so it would unrealistic to have the expectation for their original conceptions of God and religion to have remained in tact. Therefore, should we be disturbed or suprised by the fact that Arabs, Jews, and Europeans (all late arriving people), have taken these spiritual concepts and translated them in ways that they can identify with, placing the major figures of modern biblical scripts in their image and likeness, in order to satisfy the needs of the members of their culture?



All faith is FALSE, all faith is TRUE
TRUTH is the shattered mirrors strewn
In myriad bits; while each BELIEVES
his LITTLE BIT the whole to own
(From: "The Kasidah of Haji Abu el-Yezdi"; as translated by Sir Richard F. Burton)
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
Kresge...My favorite Christian! Big Grin

The Paganism doesn't bother me since I am one(a pagan). It's the domination and acceptance of Euro-Paganism that drives me nuts...and the commercialism. If _we_ are gonna be ok with, and enjoy, a fat man and deer flying in the sky, trimming trees, and the yule log, then we should also be fine with our own(and other people's/cultures) historical/cultural paganism. An Egungun(ancestor) costume and few chicken sacrifices...and/or burn some ancestrally empowered Ta Chiu paper horses and fast for a month while reading a religious book...while spinning a dradle..._something_ other than Euro-peganism{Saturnalia, Mithraism}..every culture has it's pagan winter solstice celebration...Let's have a multi-cultural Pagan one for the Gods' sakes!...At least it would be fair, politically correct, and well balanced!

Happy ChristmaTaChiuHanuRamadaKwanzaaakka everyone!

And as the ancient African multi-genious Imhotep said...

_"Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow you will die!"_


P.S. My favorite Euro-Pagan contradiction of "the season" is Nativity sceens that simultaneousely include palm trees and SNOW!(let alone the white Jesus, Mary, and Joseph)

_{Paganism, in the broadest sense includes all religions other than Christianity, Judaism, and Mohammedanism. The term is also used as the equivalent of Polytheism (q.v.). It is derived from the Latin pagus, whence pagani (i. e. those who live in the country), a name given to the country folk who remained heathen after the cities had become Christian. Various forms of Paganism exist(e.g. Brahminism, Buddhism, Mithraism)_


You are a pagan? What's your religion?

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