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I can't stand this man, but I just wanted to post this.

Black support for Bush drops to two percent
Nov 17, 2005
by Larry Elder

So much for the Republican "outreach" to black voters, with only 2 percent of blacks "approving" of the president's performance.

If only blacks knew of the true history of the Democratic Party.

"Black History Month" has been observed for 29 years, yet many blacks know little to nothing about the parties' respective roles in advancing or hindering the civil rights of blacks. How many blacks know that following the Civil War, 23 blacks -- 13 of them ex-slaves -- were elected to Congress, all as Republicans? The first black Democrat was not elected to Congress until 1935, from the state of Illinois. The first black congressional Democrat from a Southern state was not elected until 1973.


Democrats, in 1854, passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act. This overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories. Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party -- not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.

How many blacks know that blacks founded the Texas Republican Party? On July 4, 1867, in Houston, Texas, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed the party. No, not the Black Texas Republican Party, they founded the Texas Republican Party. Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.

Fugitive slave laws? In 1850, Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. If merely accused of being a slave, even if the person enjoyed freedom all of his or her life (as approximately 11 percent of blacks did just before the Civil War), the person lost the right to representation by an attorney, the right to trial by jury, and the right to habeas corpus.

Emancipation? Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, 3 of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.

Civil rights laws? In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 -- with 6 not voting -- in the House, and 30 of 32 -- with 2 not voting -- in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.

Right to vote? When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.

Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS' "American Experience" notes, "In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865." Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.

Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.

Civil rights in the '60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act.

What about the reviled, allegedly anti-black, Republican "Southern strategy"? Pat Buchanan, writing for Richard Nixon (who became the Republican Party candidate two years later) coined the term "Southern strategy." They expected the "strategy" to ultimately result in the complete marginalization of racist Southern Democrats. "We would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states' rights, human rights, small government, and a strong national defense," said Buchanan, "and leave it to the 'party of [Democratic Georgia Gov. Lester] Maddox, [1966 Democratic challenger against Spiro Agnew for Maryland governor George] Mahoney, and [Democratic Alabama Gov. George] Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice.'" And President Richard Nixon, Republican, implemented the first federal affirmative action (race-based preference) laws with goals and timetables.

So next "Black History Month," pass some of this stuff along.



Larry Elder is a nationally syndicated newspaper columnist and publishes a monthly newsletter entitled "The Elder Statement."

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/larryelder/2005/11/17/175888.html
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Is Larry Elder high or drunk? Doesn't he know that the reason why blacks don't vote Republican by the masses is because we were Republicans first. The same Republican party that brought on Reconstruction also gotten rid of it? What's that all about?

Plus, Elder fails to bring up was that those Southern Democrats of the '50s and '60s are the '80s Reagan Democrats and Republican neocons of today.
Elder is high, drunk, pimp-slapped, etc. because of the disconnect.

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  • So much for the Republican "outreach" to black voters, with only 2 percent of blacks "approving" of the president's performance.

  • If only blacks knew of the true history of the Democratic Party.
  • He knows the rule. Politics is all about "What Have You Done For Me Lately." What the hell is he talking about the history? Like there is a BETTER WHITE MAN or something?

    Silly BASTARD!! Last time, at The Barbershop, this mf was thumbing his nose at history:
    quote:
    My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

    Dad goes to the same barbershop that my brothers and I went to when we were growing up. Different people now own the shop, and I hadn't set foot in there in probably 35 years. Is it still, I asked Dad, the same "afro-centric," white-man-done-me-wrong, trash-talking joint? "Yes," sighed my father...

    ...But the walls no longer sport posters of an angry, finger-pointing Malcolm X, or Elijah Muhammad, the founder of the anti-Semitic Nation of Islam, or Marcus Garvey, who urged blacks to leave racist America and return to Africa. I remember them staring down at me as my barber ranted about how "the white man" oppresses us...
    Funny how he showed right awful disdain for history there and never even came close to casting that history in a positive light, let alone putting a hellified spin on it.

    I mean, here it is this mf is trying to rehabilitate the image of the Republican party when, even after we grant his BETTER WHITE MAN spin, it wasn't like they were going John Brown on the vile and racist White Democrats. How come our "good brother" who is so moved to speak about the NOI's "anti-Semitism" (and that without much of any actual terrorism, acts of violence or materially harmful discrimination involved, comparatively) can't muster or mutter the thought of talking about the racist and unsavory history of Racism & the Republican Party?

    Notice the sucker stopped counting dates in the 60's. (Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed... Civil rights in the '60s?...) Notice the theme of RACE-BASED remedies in both eras he tries to play up. Oh but what about the 70's and the Reagan 80's and the Republican Congress 90's and the present? Anything RACE-BASED sponsored by Republicans you want to tell us about Larry (since you think that resonates)??

    And this shit is just too funny:
    They expected the "strategy" to ultimately result in the complete marginalization of racist Southern Democrats.

    Okay, I guess they get Brownie Points for "good intentions", huh? Yeah, those racist Southern Democrats were in the margins all right. The top, left, right and bottom 2" inch margins of the Republican Party!! lol

    Dude is trying to play up the Republican Party where he shares a "big tent" with the most blatant of [Southern] racists and knows it. The Democrats today, with all their racism (and, yes, them too, like that's a secret), isn't the Rebel Flag party the Republicans know they are. Now.

    Which party has openly racist candidates claiming their party label during elections?

    Oh but let's look at the history. Now, I wonder how come Larry didn't recommend Black History like that told the story of Garvey and the NOI, etc. from a Black... from a Black... (let me repeat)... from a Black perspective. (Note: "Angry" is not... anyway.)

    One wonders why he didn't recommend any particular books or articles even this primer:
    A Brief History of Civil Rights in the United States of America

    quote:
    ....As Republican fortunes continued to wane in the late 1870s and the 1880s, the Republican Party became less and less interested in protecting black civil rights in the South and more and more interested in winning white votes anywhere they could be found. This problem was further complicated by the fact that the more "civil rights oriented" Republicans of the Civil War period, those most committed to the cause of the recently freed slaves, were growing old and retiring from active politics. The younger members of the Grand Old Party simply did not share their deep devotion to protecting black civil rights in the South.

    ...The change in the Republican Party attitude toward black Americans that occurred in the late 1870s was an important event in the history of civil rights in the United States. It marked the beginning of a long period of time in which the interests of black Americans were made secondary to the needs of the two major political parties to win national elections. Time and again over the following 90 years, both the Republican and Democratic parties would sacrifice civil rights programs and civil rights bills on the altar of "not losing white votes" in the next election.

    ...The political power to pass civil rights laws rested with the two major political parties - the Republicans and the Democrats - but both parties had more to gain by appealing to the votes of enfranchised segregationist southern whites rather than the non-votes of disenfranchised southern blacks.

    ...Franklin D. Roosevelt won the election, however, and went on to institute a broad program of economic reforms known as the New Deal. The economic benefits of the New Deal were distributed more-or-less equally to blacks and whites, and by January of 1935 more than 3 million blacks, one-fifth of the black labor force, were employed on relief projects instituted by the United States Government.

    ...Roosevelt used his executive powers of appointment to name large numbers of blacks to United States Government jobs

    ...Roosevelt bypassed Congress and, by executive order, established the Civil Rights Section of the Justice Department.

    ...President Roosevelt agreed to create a Fair Employment Practices Committee (FEPC) and ban discrimination in defense plants [in lieu of A. Philip Randolph's threatened "March on Washington"].

    ...Harry S. Truman continued the use of executive action as the principal means of furthering black civil rights... [and] in 1948 issued an executive order that integrated the Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps and specifically banned "separate but equal" recruiting, training, and service.

    ...Truman also appointed a presidential Committee on Civil Rights. The committee issued a lengthy report, To Secure These Rights (a Declaration of Independence theme LBJ would more or less pick up on later), which presented factual data and gripping personal testimony on the denial of black civil rights in the South.

    [.... more ....]
    So, with all that history, the good and the bad, in better perspective... No Thanks!! No Thanks, I don't much feel like playing the "Who's The BETTER White Man" Game.

    But go ahead, talk about the RACE-BASED, Southern Racist Repelling legislation/policy Republicans have supported since the 60's. Okay, 70's... All right, 80's... Ummm, the 90's. Since 2000? Umm... What did Pres. Bush & Party do when the UofM case was being heard? Where did his/their cast their virtual vote then? FOR or AGAINST?

    Thank you, Larry. Thank for this excellent display.
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    Sweetwuzzy:

    During this same time in which you document the fall the regard for Bush in the Black community what ACTIONS can you document that have been done by the leaders who they favor to change anything about their condition?

    It seems to me that some of you REST COMFORTABLY that YOU HAVE A POPULAR VIEW HELD BY OTHER BLACKS. Whoopiieeee!

    When we translate this ANGER OR HATRED to more meaningful measures I am left wondering "What does it matter"?

    I am more concerned about the RECORDED MEASURE OF:
    * Academic Attainment
    * Black GDP
    * Black Owned Businesses
    * The Above entities funded by Black owned banks


    Bush might have 000000000.000000000% OF Black support (and you might cheer). He just got HIS SUPREME COURT CHOICE to sit on the bench. He got REELECTED WITHOUT YOUR HELP.

    Most Blacks live in the Sourthern states. These states are increasingly RED STATES.


    Do you get the picture?

    Maybe it is time to SHIFT from your current strategy of telling folks "Bush Don't Like Black People" over to some more effective strategy IN WHICH THOSE WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY PROVE BY THEIR OWN ACTIONS THAT THEY LOVE BLACK PEOPLE AND WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK TO BUSH OR ANY OTHER IMPERIALIST LEADER THAT SITS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
    quote:
    Do you get the picture?

    Maybe it is time to SHIFT from your current strategy of telling folks "Bush Don't Like Black People" over to some more effective strategy IN WHICH THOSE WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY PROVE BY THEIR OWN ACTIONS THAT THEY LOVE BLACK PEOPLE AND WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK TO BUSH OR ANY OTHER IMPERIALIST LEADER THAT SITS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
    I'm sure you get the picture that FAKE mf's gets no play. In other words, STFU!!!
    Constructive Feedback,

    I think I have been quite clear on my views on both the democrats and republicans. I believe neither of them are in black peoples corner.

    Now the reason I posted this was not only to just spark conversation, but because Republicans are obsessed with talking about 200 year old achievements they did for blacks, instead of having a real discussion on why blacks should be republican now.

    I believe it would be to blacks benefit to spread our vote, but republicans(or conservatives) are doing a poor job at convincing blacks to spread our vote. And the sad thing is that I don't think republicans even care to attract black support. I can't blame them exactly.

    Characters like Larry Elder, clearly have a disdain for blacks, and it shows, and this is losing black support for republicans.

    Look at what Elder wrote."yet many blacks know little to nothing about the parties' respective roles in advancing or hindering the civil rights of blacks."

    Now, I am not going to lie. Many blacks are stubborn into believing republicans/ conservatives are all racist. And a black republican is a "sell out." But not all blacks are closed minded like this.
    Elder is a disgrace. It's easy for him to excuse the past, since he was born and raised in South Central L.A. instead of the Deep South. He never faced hardcore racism in California, like many faced in Alabama and Mississippi. It's a shame a black man in his 50s can disregard Jim Crow, who was alive to see Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, can still act racially naive.
    I came out of retirement like MJ and Deion. Or more like Puxtauny Phil of Ground Hog Fame.

    I came out of my hole in the ground and I saw the same thing.

    Larry Elder, just like me, was raised in South Central. Location of birth or living has nothing to do with facts.

    Let's put forth the following premise: 80% of what Larry Wrote is true. This doesn't justify me becoming a republican. But what does, is what the Democrats/Liberals have done for Los Angeles, Atlanta, Chicago, Oakland, New Fallujah Michigan, Washington DC, and other liberal democratic meccas.
    In my 40 years of living in Maxine Water's district, I have seen Democrats, Liberals, Whites, and Blacks leading LA. From Mayor Bradley to Supervisor Burke, and the only politician I have respect for is Kenneth Hahn.

    Los Angeles should be the shining city on mountain top with all the federal aid coming into the city in the form of Welfare. Yet, Jordan High may be the worse high school in America and the projects Nickerson Gardens and Imperial Courts, each about 1/2 mile from the Watts tower, are only outpaced in violence by Sadr City, Iraq or the Gaza Strip. And LA is just 7.6 earthquake away from being just like the other LA on the gulf coast.

    But this come back to one of my previous post, dependance on the Great Democratic Party, is not good and not in our as a people best interest.

    Many treat the Republican Party like "brussel sprouts" or "spinach." Everyone says these veggies taste nasty and not good for anyone, but no one has ever tried them. And those of us who have tried are considered one or all of the following: Uncle Tom, Self-Loathing, and/or Not Black.

    Freedom Must Be Used Wisely to Ensure that other will benefit from our captivity

    MAJ Barber
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Major Barber:

    Many treat the Republican Party like "brussel sprouts" or "spinach." Everyone says these veggies taste nasty and not good for anyone, but no one has ever tried them. And those of us who have tried are considered one or all of the following: Uncle Tom, Self-Loathing, and/or Not Black.


    Mr. Barber - I appreciate your perspective, but doesn't support have to be earned? In the same way that the Democrat Party earned African American support in the past (we were once ALL Republican you know), what has the current incarnation of the Republican Party done to attract and earn African American votes? In what way is the conservative agenda in my best interests? Conservatism has been against African America's quest for rights and full citizenship at every turn. How is it now a place that is in my best interests?

    Lastly, where are the black conservative leaders? Where is the black conservative agenda? I am not aware of any African American Republicans who embrace African America as their primary concnern. The argument is always that the Republican agneda is "best" for black folks.

    Interested in your response . . .
    quote:
    Everyone says these [REPUBLICANS like] veggies taste nasty and not good for anyone, but no one has ever tried them no one has ever tried them

    What the fuck is this??
    The world pre-Scientific Method??

    You know, TRIAL & ERROR.

    Hey! Let's try it. See how it works...td6

    Seriously, you have got to be kidding me. nono

    Also, you need a much better analogy.
    Veggies are suppose "to be good for you." FYI...
    quote:
    Originally posted by Nmaginate:
    quote:
    Everyone says these [REPUBLICANS like] veggies taste nasty and not good for anyone, but no one has ever tried them no one has ever tried them

    What the fuck is this??
    The world pre-Scientific Method??

    You know, TRIAL & ERROR.

    Hey! Let's try it. See how it works...td6

    Seriously, you have got to be kidding me. nono

    Also, you need a much better analogy.
    Veggies are suppose "to be good for you." FYI...


    Well, technically, the Scientific Method itself is Trial and Error. The method is "I think such and such", the try it out, and then make a conclusion based on the facts gathered from experimentation (trial and error). Democracy was a trial and error form of goverment when tried by the Europeans (they had not had it since Greek times).


    But, I get the intention of your post. bump
    If another Republican, black or white or whatever says that Republicans helped free slaves or was on the vanguard of civil rights, I'm gonna slap them so hard that Jesus Christ himself will feel it! Mad
    To keep emphasizing this point is a downright insult! It implies that African-Americans, as well as this entire article by L. Elder, are politically unsophisticated, immature and just plain dumb! It is not an accident that only 2% of our people support Republicans. They know why, but want to dwell on their party's past, which is radically different than what they've done in the last 40 plus years. However, you will never hear them talk about that.

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