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This is a very good defition of just what exactly is a liberal. With all of the right-wing name calling and accusation throwing towards the Left (mostly by FOX News pundits and by Reagan and Bush-loving Neoconservatives) this article does a good job at defining the true definition of Liberalism:

http://www.gerrold.com/samizdat/2004_03_01_archive.html

This defintion will probably exclude some Liberals (such as Neoliberals).
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There has been an infuriating perversion of language by the neo-cons and the unthinking enablers in the general public. That reminds me of something I read about a member of this misadministration. He said the Chimpy White House is populated by people who "create their own reality", and regularly change it. So, by the time the rest of us "reality-based" people react to what they've created, they are already in the midst or creating a new reality.

That's pretty much what they've done to language as well; re-defined different terms and then re-defined them again.
A Liberal:

A person who in their STATED attempts to do good often will use "any means necessary" to accomplish their goals. They are on a perpetual journey, rarely ever accomplishing their goals as the UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES of their last blitz leave them with a new set of troubles for the focus of their caretaking that needs to be resolved. Thus they remain employed.


Do As I Say (Not As I Do) : Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/038551349...nce&s=books&n=507846

The left wing extremist money man George Soros who seeks believes that America should raise taxes on the rich to fund it's social programs for all HIMSELF has most of his money stashed away in off shore accounts and trust funds to avoid paying taxes that go to the poor.

The Kennedy family had over $500 million within the family transfered down throughout the year HOWEVER they escaped paying most of the "Death Taxes" on this money via the use of trust funds and other tactics. Ted Kennedy, the A+ Senator on the NAACP Legislative Report card just last year set up an off shore trust on the ISLAND OF FIJI in order to send his money overseas.

Mr. John "Two Americas" Edwards a few years ago had a windfall multimillion dollar compensation check from his law practice. Rather than take the cash and get hit with $650,000 in Federal Taxes he INSTEAD took the compensation in a different form to avoid the "tax penalty". How many poor people in his "Second America" would have received benefit from his money? This snakeoil salesman is as guilty as the other rich people that he condemns.


Let us just cut to the chase:

Liberal = Hypocrite
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

Let us just cut to the chase:

Liberal = Hypocrite


You rail against liberal wealth preservation measures. I know your mind could probably never expand to consider the possibility that they would wish to retain as much control over their wealth so as to be able to direct where their charity goes versus where a Republican administration and Congress would have it go - namely illegitmate wars and, through shill companies like Halliburton, into Republican pockets.
BTW - in what ways are conservatives NOT hypocritical?

  • They talk about limited government yet their boy George has built the largest government in history.

  • They talk about free markets yet support all manner of subsidies, protectionism, tarrifs, etc.

  • GWB campaigns specifically against "nation building" yet that is exclusively what is occurring in Iraq.

  • GWB talks about being concerned with national security, yet he lets OBL off the hook in Afghanistan and creates a bogus war in Iraq - all the while leaving our borders porous and appointing incompetent cronies to key positions that are supposed to keep Americans safe (ole Mike Brown at FEMA).

  • GWB campaigned on 'returning honor' to the White House yet his current administration is peppered with indictments and investigations that stem from their immorality and illegality.

  • GWB talks about 'no child left behind' in a program that is precisely designed to leave MOST children behind in underfunded, underperforming schools.

  • Conservatives talk about a 'culture of life' yet vigorously support the death penalty.

  • Conservatives talk about the sanctity of the Constitution and 'Original Intent' yet jam the Patriot Act down our throats - the sole purpose of which is to circumvent the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

  • Conservatives talk about the sanctity of marriage yet red states yield higher divorce rates than blue states.

  • On the one hand, conservatives cry about our loose immigration policy, yet on the other, conservative business encourages this by hiring undocumented immigrants by the millions so they can reap the profits of exploiting them at sub minimum wage and no benefit jobs.

  • Conservatives cry about what they see as 'racial preferences' - programs like affirmative action designed to counter their past and current racist discrimination - yet LOVE racial preferences to their benefit. They scream about wanting a "color blind society" - yet in reality what they want is to permanently lock in the advantages that 400 years of slavery and racism have afforded them.

  • Conservatives talk about wanting limited government - EXCEPT in the most personal of matters like who one chooses to love and marry, and how a woman chooses to govern her body.

  • Conservatives wrap themselves in sanctimonious morality yet cannot even come close to 'walking the walk': (Bush - a former drunk and druggie who never worked for anything in his life, Laura Bush - committed vehicular homocide while under the influence, Dick Cheney - kicked out of Yale three times and who also has DUI's to his "credit", etc, etc., etc.)

    It just goes on and on . . .
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    FUCK a Democrat and MotherFUCK a Got-Damn Republican. And I most definitely mean that for WHITE Liberals and WHITE CONservatives...

    THEY ARE IN CAHOOTS!! (or at the very least playing the same game).



    No Thank You... No interest in the WHO'S THE BETTER WHITE MAN game, CON-Feed. I thought you knew.

    And, really, this BS proves you're not "Black." So, I do thank you for exposing yourself with every POSE.
    quote:
    Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

    Whewwwww Good one MBM.


    CF, why is it hypocritical for liberals to take advantage of provisions in the law designed to protect wealth? In your opinion, what is the connection in your mind between that and their commitment to progressive causes? So being wealthy is somehow diametrically opposed to having a progressive personal political outlook?
    lol

    Beyond this, I anxiously await your response to my post on conservative hypocrisy. You conveniently neglected to respond to that.
    lol
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    And, really, this BS proves you're not "Black."


    You know, Nmaginate ...

    I was thinking the same thing. I'm beginning to suspect [or rather, have been suspecting for a while] that CF is, in fact, not Black. I'm not saying "he/she is not Black enough", I'm saying that "He/she is not born of and/or raised by parents of African Descent."

    I base this on his frequent references to "negro", when speaking of Black people, in general. He does this in the same manner as those on white supremacist site that I've visited.
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    CF, why is it hypocritical for liberals to take advantage of provisions in the law designed to protect wealth?


    You are kidding right?

    Jesse Jackson and other Quasi-Socialist Progressives have been talking for the longest about how on 1% of the nation's wealth is not tied up in the estate of the long time wealthy. He has proposed a WEALTH TAX in order to get after these funds that Edwards, Kennedy and others are able to side step because they don't receive it as income.

    It is the height of hypocracy to be these two men (Teddy and Johnny) who have spent so much time in railing against the FINANCES OF THE RICH and how Bush's policies are favorable to them but harmful to the poor AND THEY DO THE VERY SAME THING THAT THEY ARE CRITICAL OF.

    You see just like ENVIRONMENTALISTS (who on this board recently blamed conservatives for Global Warming??? One of the usual suspectes) WHY DO YOU NEED TO WAIT FOR GOVERNMENT MANDATE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW YOUR CONSCIOUS?

    If you believe that driving a car is leading to the warming of the Earth TO DRIVING!!! You will be the first of many who will follow you.

    Instead of "Following Their Convictions" too often these hypocrites get exposed "FOLLOWING their CONVICTION in court in which it all comes out in the open".
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    Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
    You are kidding right?

    Jesse Jackson and other Quasi-Socialist Progressives


    Quasi-Socialist? Do you ever make any sense?

    And what's wrong with being a Progressive? Are you anti-Progress?

    quote:
    have been talking for the longest about how on 1% of the nation's wealth is not tied up in the estate of the long time wealthy. He has proposed a WEALTH TAX in order to get after these funds that Edwards, Kennedy and others are able to side step because they don't receive it as income.


    And we are supposed to care because....?

    Why should we care if the rich get taxed? They deserve to be taxed because they make the most money. Have you ever heard of the old saying, "Those who receive the most are also required to give the most"?

    How does money staying in the hands of the rich help us any? Do you actually believe that people who are rich earned every dollar they make? I'm afraid not, more often than not, they simply build a business and then work to manage it. They receive alot of the money but do little of the real work to earn it, they just earn money simply because of the fact that their name is on the products, that's it.

    I advocate a society where people can strike it rich by hard work and because they make something of critical value and work with their workers to manage and produce.

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    It is the height of hypocracy to be these two men (Teddy and Johnny) who have spent so much time in railing against the FINANCES OF THE RICH and how Bush's policies are favorable to them but harmful to the poor AND THEY DO THE VERY SAME THING THAT THEY ARE CRITICAL OF.


    Yes, it is hypocritical to do the same thing you accuse others of.

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    You see just like ENVIRONMENTALISTS (who on this board recently blamed conservatives for Global Warming??? One of the usual suspectes) WHY DO YOU NEED TO WAIT FOR GOVERNMENT MANDATE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW YOUR CONSCIOUS?


    There is a logical reason why Environmentalists usually blame Cosnervatives and corporations. Do you know why? Because Conservatives, more often than not, are the ones who vote against restrictions on pollution production and vote against enforcing higher environmental standards.

    Corporations also usually have lobbyists on Capital Hill that give money to Republican Congressman to vote against environmental standards bills.

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    If you believe that driving a car is leading to the warming of the Earth TO DRIVING!!! You will be the first of many who will follow you.


    Do you mean "stop driving"?

    Anyway, that is a false dichotomy. There is an alternative, you can by a hybrid car. There are ways to drive and cut down on pollution.

    Sadly, I'm an SUV-owner (I own a 1997 Tahoe). Next year, I'm trading it in for a hybrid car. It's a good deal, you should try it. The hybrid car is only $20,000 and I get a government discount on it if for "Buying Green" (environmental). It only holds 11 gallons of gas, but it gets 55 miles to the gallon and only pollutes 10% as much as a regular car.
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    Originally posted by Kweli4Real:

    quote:
    And, really, this BS proves you're not "Black."


    You know, Nmaginate ...

    I was thinking the same thing. I'm beginning to suspect [or rather, have been suspecting for a while] that CF is, in fact, not Black. I'm not saying "he/she is not Black enough", I'm saying that "He/she is not born of and/or raised by parents of African Descent."

    I base this on his frequent references to "negro", when speaking of Black people, in general. He does this in the same manner as those on white supremacist site that I've visited.


    Quoted from another thread . . .

    quote:
    Originally posted by MBM:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

    You CLAIM that I am a "respector" of White Supremacy yet when one listens to most of the plans that you and Kevin put forth with regard to the salvation of the Black man - the White man is the main character in your play. So much focus is given on what the WHITE MAN is going to have to do in the way of change for the comfort of Black people.

    How is it then that you can fix your mouth to talk about ME and White supremacy? What a joke.


    You know - you completely ignore the extraordinarily obvious fact that - whether we like it or not - the institutions of this nation - which create the laws and the economic infrastructure - are white. AMERICA IS A WHITE NATION RUN BY WHITE PEOPLE FOR WHITE INTERESTS. Again, whether we like it or not, any black progress comes through strategic interaction with white America. What is so freakin' hard to understand about that?
    Confused

    We may not like it. It may hurt our feelings. It may make us feel emasculated, but that is the reality the we are born into.

    CF - either you are a stormfronter/kkk/skinhead who advocates complete racial separation (and you're at AA.org merely to obfuscate and spread your white supremacist venom) or - respectfully - you are insane.

    I'd have much more respect for you if maintained just a thread of integrity in your positions. If you advocated complete racial separation in America then there would at least be logic in your argument. Either that, or if you advocated that African America go back to Africa or take over Haiti or something where black people would gain power over the broad infrastructure of our lives - then your position would at least make a little sense. It might still be nonsensical - but there might be a strand of logic within it.

    Your argument, within the context of the US of A, though, is absolutely NONSENSICAL. It is beyond neurotic, it appears to be psychotic in the most profound way - as if you are schizophrenic and have lost a command of your "reality".

    You make NO sense CF. td6
    quote:
    Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

    quote:
    CF, why is it hypocritical for liberals to take advantage of provisions in the law designed to protect wealth?


    You are kidding right?

    Jesse Jackson and other Quasi-Socialist Progressives have been talking for the longest about how on 1% of the nation's wealth is not tied up in the estate of the long time wealthy. He has proposed a WEALTH TAX in order to get after these funds that Edwards, Kennedy and others are able to side step because they don't receive it as income.


    You make no sense. One can support a tax and not advocate giving up everything one has.
    nono

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    It is the height of hypocracy to be these two men (Teddy and Johnny) who have spent so much time in railing against the FINANCES OF THE RICH and how Bush's policies are favorable to them but harmful to the poor AND THEY DO THE VERY SAME THING THAT THEY ARE CRITICAL OF.


    First - you've not proven that they have done anything hypocritical. Second, respond to my post about conservative hypocrisy. Your ideology is laden with double standards and lies.
    td6

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    WHY DO YOU NEED TO WAIT FOR GOVERNMENT MANDATE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW YOUR CONSCIOUS?


    laugh
    You know - you must live in a very small bubble. Take the liberals who you have just attacked as hypocrites. Compare their records on supporting issues that are in the best interests of 'the people' versus the average Republican. What do you think you'll find ole CF? For example, there are 40 MILLION Americans who have no healthcare. Kennedy has been trying for a generation to get this country to ante up for a universal health care program. So what he's rich. His heart is in the right place - helping people: something that the greedy conservatives could care less about.
    upset

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    If you believe that driving a car is leading to the warming of the Earth TO DRIVING!!! You will be the first of many who will follow you.


    Huh? Confused

    Are you drinking? Are you on drugs? Can you write a coherent sentence?
    laugh

    quote:
    Instead of "Following Their Convictions" too often these hypocrites get exposed "FOLLOWING their CONVICTION in court in which it all comes out in the open".


    Court? LOL - isn't that where a lot of Republicans are spending their time these days?
    lol
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    CF - either you are a stormfronter/kkk/skinhead who advocates complete racial separation (and you're at AA.org merely to obfuscate and spread your white supremacist venom) or - respectfully - you are insane.


    They simply CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES!!!!

    As they search their souls, attempting to figure out........Why does this man THINK so differently than I do??? HE CAN'T BE BLACK!!!!

    I only ask you NOT to just "consider how ITHINK. I ask that YOU consider how YOU LIVE and how DEPENDENT you are on this "White man's system" despite your constant rantings.

    You can't even heal yourself from this drug because you don't even realize that you have an addiction problem. You have LIED to yourself for so long that you can't even tell when you are being truthful to your own way.

    I don't fall for the GRAVITATIONAL PULL that you put forth with respect to BLACKNESS. If you want to draw me in then atleast have some INTEGRITY in your measure.
    Sadly you don't question if the SAMBO Entertainers who are putting forth images of Black people for the world to consume are Black. You don't ever STRIP the Blackness from those who are committing crimes in our community EVEN WHEN IT IS BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE THE DISPROPORTIONATE VICTIM.

    The Black man will get locked up for the INDIVIDUAL crime that he has committed. In 5 years from now his INDIVIDUALITY will be stripped away from him and in your mind he will be "Yet another Nigger in Jail", locked up by this UNJUST JUSTICE system, despite HIS OFFENSE.

    Your biggest hear HAS TO BE that you will one day be off on your own having to run your own system in which YOU are charged with balancing the never ending pursuit of ABSOLUTE JUSTICE versus your need to RUN A PRODUCTIVE SOCIETY. NO LONGER will the GOAT that you "scape" so frequently be running around for you to blame everything upon.

    This is the only situation that I can see that will FORCE THE BULK OF YOU TO CHANGE, to TRANSFORM into TRUTHFUL people at the core. Right now you are about as prejudiced and subjective and conditional as the White folks that you dispise so.
    Either answer the questions posed to you, or STFU.

    I can't stand your endless spinning, changing the subject and cherry-picking certain parts of responses for you to build into a strawman, then freak the hell out and go through this "I'm such a fucking martyr" routine.

    JUST ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTIONS OR STFU. YOU HAVE YET TO ANSWER ANY DIRECT QUESTION I'VE EVER SEEN POSED TO YOU, YOU SIMPLY RESPOND BY ASKING QUESTIONS BACK ON A DIFFEENT SUBJECT, OR MAKING STRAWMEN OF CERTAIN COMMENTS.
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    And what's wrong with being a Progressive? Are you anti-Progress?


    I take it that THIS was your question that you wanted answered (lest I be banned).

    The label "progressive" is no different than the label "The US PATRIOT" act. Who is going to say that they are NOT a patriot?

    In the case of the progressive I look at the results and not just the label.

    From a historical stand point I give praise to the "progressives" who took part in the labor movement of the past. 40 hour work week, child labor laws and union representation is what makes us different from the sweatshop countries around the world.

    Just as YOU don't agree with everything that corporations do yet you would be offended if someone called you anti-corporate the same is the case with my view of "progressives".

    I also am not blinded by the UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES that are brought about when you wage an endless struggle against the 'System' but when it is your turn to RUN the "SYSTEM" in a given city because the "system" that you struggled against for so long pulls up stakes and leaves town you are beside yourself to recover.

    Clearly it takes more than PROGRESSIVES to have a well rounded society.

    We need OWNERS and Management in addition to a Progressive labor force.
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    Black conservatives believe in bulding a "A New Negro". The intention of improving Black people is noble, but I disagree with the way Black conservatives plan to go about it. They believe in building "A New Negro" by ignoring the fact that racist institutions are in place and working around them and trying to use the system to our favor.
    by EP

    If CF is Black, this explains him.
    quote:
    Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
    I take it that THIS was your question that you wanted answered (lest I be banned).

    The label "progressive" is no different than the label "The US PATRIOT" act. Who is going to say that they are NOT a patriot?


    Thank you, you answered just like I would expect a Neocon to. Now I'm going to have a logical field day with you...

    quote:
    In the case of the progressive I look at the results and not just the label.

    From a historical stand point I give praise to the "progressives" who took part in the labor movement of the past. 40 hour work week, child labor laws and union representation is what makes us different from the sweatshop countries around the world.


    Okay...

    quote:
    Just as YOU don't agree with everything that corporations do yet you would be offended if someone called you anti-corporate the same is the case with my view of "progressives".


    Actually, I wouldn't be all that offended. I'm anti-private corporate. I'm pro-social (not nationalized) corporate.

    quote:
    I also am not blinded by the UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES that are brought about when you wage an endless struggle against the 'System'


    It's not so much struggling "against the System". It's struggling to change the System. You think in too many Black & White terms.

    quote:
    but when it is your turn to RUN the "SYSTEM" in a given city because the "system" that you struggled against for so long pulls up stakes and leaves town you are beside yourself to recover.


    Like I said, I'm not against the System, I'm a Reformist.

    quote:
    Clearly it takes more than PROGRESSIVES to have a well rounded society.


    What do you mean?

    quote:
    We need OWNERS and Management in addition to a Progressive labor force.


    I see no reason why the labor force cannot be the management. All you would need is an educated, skilled worker to start a business, then gather partners. When they gather parters, as the business grows and expands, they manage the business through economic democracy. They determine the needs of the business by making direct, informed decisions through majority vote on the best decision.

    With the managers also being the workers, they are at a grassroot level to know the needs of the workers and the people to make decisions on fair prices and wages based on need, supply and demand, and accessability.

    That's a better way to manage a business rather than having some elite manager who is far-removed from the working people and is ignorant and unsympathetic to their needs. The only people who benefit from elite management are the managers. They don't even deserve much of the money they earn, they simply do meetings and make executive decisions that can be isolated and uninformed.

    Economically, having a bunch of money in the hands of private plutocrats does not ultimately work out. They DON'T give anything back to the community, and they often become greedy and raise prices and stomp out competition and become monopolies. Only to eventually crash and put hundreds of thousands out of work and ruining the economy (look at the Great Depression).
    lol
    What is a Liberal?

    Liberals are against the War on Terror, but are only too happy to make millions of dollars by making movies, writing books, and going on the talk circuit.

    Liberals preach about the evils of Capitalism from the comfort of Beverly Hills estates, and every hood across this nation. YET! they dream and try anything to be invloved with CApitalism.

    Liberals' think trees are precious, felons are precious, and are worth saving, but innocent un-born children are not. Over 40 million black babies have been killed in the womb.

    Liberals'think "tolerance" is reserved for those who share your opinions, views, and ideals.
    Funny how BLack Liberals hve more tolerance for
    STupid white folks then they have for Black COnservtives.

    Liberals' think the name of God / Jesus should be banned and censored, except when spoken in profanity. They want the likes of the Jerry F. band the Chirstian Right to be banned, and jailed. YET ...not Jackson or Sharpton.

    Liberals' think the term "illegal alien" is a bad word. Until they start to infulence thier commuinties.

    Liberals' believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding, instead of Sick HOmosexual acts.

    Liberals' think girls should be allowed to go to an all-boy school, but not the other way around
    Look at what Sistas did to the all boys school in NEW YORK?

    Liberals' think Fox News distorts the truth, but Dan Rather reports "honest journalism".

    Liberals' think racial hatred is wrong, but "class hatred" is acceptable.

    Liberals' think that every misbehaving Black male child has ADD and needs to be doped-up on Ritalin.Look at what Liberals have done to our chidlren?

    Liberals' think lawsuits that deny any personal responsibility on the part of the plantiff is justified.

    Liberals' would rather defend Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Saddam and Castro before they would defend the US.

    Liberals' think if a person makes more than $50,000/year, then he/she is cheating people and ripping them off.

    Liberals' think that poverty is caused by the wealthy.

    Liberals' protested American intervention in the Middle-East, because we did not have UN approval, but supported American intervention in Haiti, Somalia, and Bosnia, even though we did not have UN approval.

    Liberals' think having an open-mind means being "pro-Gay", "pro-Abortion", "anti-Christian", "anti-Business", and "anti-Conservative"

    Liberals' think that tax cuts hurt poor people and are uncompassionate but taking 30% from their paychecks is compassionate

    Liberals' think the answer to ANY crime no matter how henious or serious, is counseling.

    Liberals' hear a news report of a man beat nearly to death because he is a minority or gay and you rally about punishing the bigot who committed the terrible act BUT, if you hear a news report of a man beat nearly to death for his money, and you start talking about the poor disadvantaged person who is forced to commit such acts to survive.

    Liberals' think it takes a village, instead of parents, to raise a child.

    Liberals' think every problem can be solved by simply throwing money at it.

    Liberals' think more taxes are an ecomomic cure-all.

    Liberals' feel people should "share the wealth" (as long as your money is not the one being "shared")

    Liberals' think people should be rewarded for laziness, but hard-working people should be taxed dry

    Librals' frown upon self-thought and independent thought.

    Liberbals' believe that people should not have to be expected to take responsibility for their

    Liberals' believe that people should not have to be expected to take responsibility for their actions.
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    Originally posted by Nmaginate:
    SHADOW...

    Take the Dumb White Shit to them White forums and message boards.


    lol

    Don't like the truth Huh?
    Get use to it' You condition of 'Maschalephidrosis" can be cured by thinking.
    'Shadow' will be providing superabsorbent panty liners so you won't be scare when you realize the truth.

    "I do take the relatively scientific approach to politics...I always do research. People don't always tell you the whole story, so you have to research.:Ethel Allen
    quote:
    Don't like the truth Huh?
    sck


    lol lol lol lol lol lol

    quote:
    Liberals'think "tolerance" is reserved for those who share your opinions, views, and ideals.
    Funny how BLack Liberals hve more tolerance for
    STupid white folks then they have for Black COnservtives.
    DUMB WHITE SHIT.
    My Motto: FUCK THEM ALL... Stupid White Liberal RACISTS and Stupid White CONservative Racists.

    You should know this New Jack.
    But, go ahead, "Truth"-MAN... find the topics here where Stupid White folks are "tolerated" more than PUNK ASS Black Conservatives (not to be confused with principled Blacks who are Conservative, politically or socially).

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    Liberals' think racial hatred is wrong, but "class hatred" is acceptable.
    You're one stupid, dumbass CON-servative, Black, Brown, White, Houndstooth, whatever...

    Ummmm.... Obviously, your New Jack ass haven't been involved or observed the Bill Cosby debates here. That is, if you actually think this board and [all] the members here, me included, somehow fit into this idiotic grouping of "LIBERALS."

    HINT: Refer to Michael Eric Dyson's theme about Losing Their Got-Damn Minds...

    Note: One decidely "Liberal" brother, none other the Moderator himself (amongst others) voiced strong disagreement with Cosby's "classism", etc. But you can check with him (MBM) about how he would characterize it. My views, I'm afraid are too well pronounced for you to even do anything but invoke loud, unrestrainted, continuous and breathtaking laughter... lol Again, if you've trying to include me in that grouping MR. TRUTH.

    quote:
  • Liberals preach about the evils of Capitalism from the comfort of Beverly Hills estates, and every hood across this nation. YET! they dream and try anything to be invloved with CApitalism.

  • Liberals' would rather defend Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Saddam and Castro before they would defend the US.
  • One of these things is Not like the Other. One of these things just doesn't belong! Big Grin

    MAKE UP YOU DAMN MIND!

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    Librals' frown upon self-thought and independent thought.
    And that's why the [Black] Conservatives who come here have a whole repetoire of rhetoric filled with cliches', generic, unthinking generalities that can be found at your local Dime of Dozen discount (dollar) store.

    New Jack... engage the actual thoughts of people here instead of echoing this WHITE SHIT!
    Shadow - you are on a roll bro

    quote:
    Liberals' would rather defend Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Saddam and Castro before they would defend the US.

    Liberals' think that poverty is caused by the wealthy.


    CLEARLY this is the case on this board. You got them "read" and they don't like you for it.

    Better watch it - there will be calls to have you BANNED from the board.

    I do have to correct you on one point though.

    You said: "Liberals' believe that people should not have to be expected to take responsibility for their actions."

    I must add: "Liberals believe that CORPORATIONS should be held responsible for their actions even if it was an INDIVIDUAL employee who did the misdeed. If the INDIVIDUAL did the same thing while not wearing his uniform your rule above would kick in".
    CF - Shadow isn't on SHIT. That laundry list of his was just one long list of stereotypes and strawmen. I could easily make a similar laundry list of stupid stereotypes and strawmen of all Conservatives. It doesn't take much brain power to stereotype.


    I'm awaiting a CONSTRUCTIVEresponse "Constructive" Feedback. Please come up with something real, not stupid effigies.

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