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So it is my sophmore year of college and by now, I am noticing that some of the girls I know are joining sororities or are part of one already. I was thinking about joining one too, but I've never had the guts to do it.

My question is this: What is the process like for those who joined one or is joining one? Are there specific qualities that they are looking for? What can I gain from joining one?
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Deidra, if you are truly interested in joining one of the 4 BGL (black greek lettered) Sororities, you should do your research. You can start by observing the female greeks on campus and double that by researching online or in the library.

You can check out the Baird's Manual for the NPHC orgs.

Hope this helps.
D,

although I could never be in a sorority, I do have lots of friends who have gone through the process. My advice to you would be to find out 1. what they are all about 2. don't do it just because your friends are doin' it 3. observe the various orgs. and focus on the one(s) that best fits with YOUR personality (don't go strictly on the basis of a legacy)4. approach some of the sisters with questions you may have about that particular chapter 5.don't be ashamed/afraid to say no, this is not something for me.

Good luck in your quest.
I suggest you don't join. Until they are talking about upliftment of the masses of our people, destroying capitalism, and start calling themselves Africans instead of "Greek"...it's a waiste of time, unless you are in it for the strictly social reasons...of which I think you can do better...You might want to read the history of the Boule', they started it all anyhow, It's all about mimicking "Massa" and his frats...while letting "him" still maintain control...Of which "massa's" frats are bad and twisted copies of the spiritual schools of the ancient Nile Valley and Great lakes regions of Africa(In otherwords we are copying the European version of our own shit, and then giving the credit to the Greeks, at least in title)...Our ancestors societies and organizations were/are much more complex and enriching...We need to get back to our own stuff man! Personally, I don't want to trade in my African identity for a Greek one...Do you? Like Laurence Fishburn's character said in School Daze....Wake up!

http://www.daghettotymz.com/rkyvz/articles/boule'series/BCover.html

http://www.daghettotymz.com/rkyvz/articles/boule'series/boule1-3roster/boule1/boulept1.html

http://www.daghettotymz.com/rkyvz/articles/boule'series/boule1-3roster/boule2/boulept2.html

http://www.daghettotymz.com/rkyvz/articles/boule'series/boule1-3roster/boule3/boulept3.html


http://www.daghettotymz.com/rkyvz/articles/boule'series/boule1-3roster/boule3/boulept3.html

copy and paste, for some reason the whole url won't come up as a direct link...here are some others...

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/9516/boule.html

http://www.daghettotymz.com/rkyvz/articles/naacp/naacp.html

And don't freak out.,W.E.B. Dubois saw the light and became a Pan-Africanist socialist...a part of his life not much discussed. Even at his memorial in Accra, Ghana. He finally realized Garvey was correct. Notice also Martin got killed after progressing to socialism...and the one's who still hold any media power didn't progress....I see a trend.

JOIN A PROGRESSIVE ORGANIZATION!
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Glow:
Lawd, another REJECT with the same watered down response that they all use. If you don't want to be in a greek lettered organization that's on you, but don't try to knock down the next person. That crap you are pulling is tired.


I wasn't insulting the individual people who joined...we all go through stages of development...I was questioning the entire organizations purpose and ideology...This isn't a personal attack, it is ideological one...please try to argue within those realms...that is, if you have an argument within those realms...Name calling is unecessary and makes for a bad response/argument...

"Everything that touches your life must be an instrument of your liberation, or you must throw it into the trash can of history."
-John Henrik Clarke

I DON'T THINK THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE LIBERATED US ONE BIT. If anything, they have created more confusion.

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W.E.B. Dubois did see the light. He was a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte


Uhhh....yah...but did he join before or after he became a Pan-Africanist socialist and re-patriated to Accra Ghana? And wasn't he a proponent of integration and a member/leader of the N.A.A.C.P. prior to progressing to Pan-Africanism and cosialism? I also recall Malcolm X being a hustler and pimp, did he not develop past that stage(not that being a African/Black "Greek"...how crazy does that sound?...is on the same level as a pimp/hustler) What was he when he died?(he was also a Pan-Africanist by the way)....Nice quote...but the enemy is imperialism and capitalism...not another African...unless of course he/she is working for the enemy...
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I will check on the info regarding Bro. Dubois for you.

Hmmm...i should do something about my signature. It's not meant at you, it's just my signature.

....My enemy is anyone that's against me. I like to keep it simple. Smile

How do I edit my signature these days? The User CP has changed and I can't figure out how to add a line break to my signature. Please enlighten me!
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Originally posted by 00Negro:
How do I edit my signature these days? The User CP has changed and I can't figure out how to add a line break to my signature. Please enlighten me!


when you edit your signature, add your own break - something like "*************" or "++++++++++++++++++" (what ever you like) before your quote.
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Originally posted by 00Negro:
I will check on the info regarding Bro. Dubois for you.

Hmmm...i should do something about my signature. It's not meant at you, it's just my signature.

....My enemy is anyone that's against me. I like to keep it simple. Smile

How do I edit my signature these days? The User CP has changed and I can't figure out how to add a line break to my signature. Please enlighten me!


My bad. It's actually a good signature you should keep it. I just accidentally thought it was directed to my post. Self criticism: I took it personally when it was ideological. Smile
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Originally posted by Deidra:
So it is my sophmore year of college and by now, I am noticing that some of the girls I know are joining sororities or are part of one already. I was thinking about joining one too, but I've never had the guts to do it.

My question is this: What is the process like for those who joined one or is joining one? Are there specific qualities that they are looking for? What can I gain from joining one?


if you dont pledge Zeta, you aint pledged ish!!! Big Grin


on the real, all lines in all groups are different...some you may juss sign your name and pay dues...others, it's like training for the olympics. My advice, study the Greek 'ZETAabet' [forward and backwards], get into shape [treadmill and other cardio], prestudy all the history you can online, take a lighter coursework that semester [or pledge in the summer], and be ready to work!!! Good luck


GOMAB
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Glow:
Lawd, another REJECT with the same watered down response that they all use. If you don't want to be in a greek lettered organization that's on you, but don't try to knock down the next person. That crap you are pulling is tired.


I wasn't insulting the individual people who joined...we all go through stages of development...I was questioning the entire organizations purpose and ideology...This isn't a personal attack, it is ideological one...please try to argue within those realms...that is, if you have an argument within those realms...Name calling is unecessary and makes for a bad response/argument...

"Everything that touches your life must be an instrument of your liberation, or you must throw it into the trash can of history."
-John Henrik Clarke

I DON'T THINK THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE LIBERATED US ONE BIT. If anything, they have created more confusion.

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W.E.B. Dubois did see the light. He was a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte


Uhhh....yah...but did he join before or after he became a Pan-Africanist socialist and re-patriated to Accra Ghana? And wasn't he a proponent of integration and a member/leader of the N.A.A.C.P. prior to progressing to Pan-Africanism and cosialism? I also recall Malcolm X being a hustler and pimp, did he not develop past that stage(not that being a African/Black "Greek"...how crazy does that sound?...is on the same level as a pimp/hustler) What was he when he died?(he was also a Pan-Africanist by the way)....Nice quote...but the enemy is imperialism and capitalism...not another African...unless of course he/she is working for the enemy...



Yeah, right whatever! That's your opinion, so you DO YOU. There is no need to debate b/c there isn't one going on.

It's funny that folks like you seek out to knock down organizations, but MIGHTY funny we have been around longer than a lot of other black organizations.

To the end, people see what they want to see; and the way that you perceive BGLO's it's your opinion, NOT a fact.

Thanks for playing.
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Yeah, right whatever! That's your opinion, so you DO YOU. There is no need to debate b/c there isn't one going on.

It's funny that folks like you seek out to knock down organizations, but MIGHTY funny we have been around longer than a lot of other black organizations.

To the end, people see what they want to see; and the way that you perceive BGLO's it's your opinion, NOT a fact.

Thanks for playing.


O.K...I see you still aren't coming with any FACTS to change or contradict the one's I have posted, that led to my opinion. Length of time an organization has been around means very little if it is not liberating the people. Just to inform you, the Pan-African struggle has been going on for 100+ years, so these organizations do have a little time under their belt also. Maybe if you present some liberation struggles these organizations have been involved in or contributed to, I will change my opinion, until then, your comments remain empty when directed towards my posts. My opinion is not a fixed one. People get new information every day to add and develop their opinions. You just haven't presented anything that contradicts my opinion or teaches me something. Just angry "You want to tear down my organization" comments. Since you are a member and a supporter of Greek organizations, I would think you would have a better defense for them than that. It's not a debate. Just a form....chill out man, and give me some info!
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Yeah, right whatever! That's your opinion, so you DO YOU. There is no need to debate b/c there isn't one going on.

It's funny that folks like you seek out to knock down organizations, but MIGHTY funny we have been around longer than a lot of other black organizations.

To the end, people see what they want to see; and the way that you perceive BGLO's it's your opinion, NOT a fact.

Thanks for playing.


O.K...I see you still aren't coming with any FACTS to change or contradict the one's I have posted, that led to my opinion. Length of time an organization has been around means very little if it is not liberating the people. Just to inform you, the Pan-African struggle has been going on for 100+ years, so these organizations do have a little time under their belt also. Maybe if you present some liberation struggles these organizations have been involved in or contributed to, I will change my opinion, until then, your comments remain empty when directed towards my posts. My opinion is not a fixed one. People get new information every day to add and develop their opinions. You just haven't presented anything that contradicts my opinion or teaches me something. Just angry "You want to tear down my organization" comments. Since you are a member and a supporter of Greek organizations, I would think you would have a better defense for them than that. It's not a debate. Just a form....chill out man, and give me some info!


Please do you.

There is no need for me to SWAY or convince you of anything. I'm not here to be a historian for you. If you feel you want to join a Sorority, please peruse the library and research for yourself...I know I did. Or, you can always come to our interest meeting (since you seem to be thristy). Then again you can get up on a saturday morning and see what we do in the community. If you'd like to join us you can always call your local chapter and see what type of service projects we have in store for the up-coming months.

I know I'm done wasting time with you,
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chill out man, and give me some info!
, I'm not a man. Get your mind right!

And I hope that you don't feel that this is an upsetting topic for me; b/c if you do, you are SADLY mistaken.


Back to work for me, seeing that I have some to do and I'm not here for dissertations.
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Originally posted by Glow:
Please do you.

There is no need for me to SWAY or convince you of anything. I'm not here to be a historian for you. If you feel you want to join a Sorority, please peruse the library and research for yourself...I know I did. Or, you can always come to our interest meeting (since you seem to be thristy). Then again you can get up on a saturday morning and see what we do in the community. If you'd like to join us you can always call your local chapter and see what type of service projects we have in store for the up-coming months.

I know I'm done wasting time with you,
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chill out man, and give me some info!
, I'm not a man. Get your mind right!

And I hope that you don't feel that this is an upsetting topic for me; b/c if you do, you are SADLY mistaken.


Back to work for me, seeing that I have some to do and I'm not here for dissertations.


Some more empty comments...predictable... I've done my research, as my posts have stated. That is why I am a Pan-Africanist. You were dissagreeing with me, all I was asking was for some good information on why. I guess you can't provide a reason. The facts speak for themsleves. No liberation in changing your ethnic title from African to "Greek". I get up on Saturday mornings and protest in my community against whatever oppression is occuring and work to organize my people on a global level...I haven't ran into too may Greeks doing this in our streets or abroad in Africa...So I know your organizations works...or lack thereof. That is the entire basis of my humble opinion.
Hey folks, wrong fight here ...

Just about any pro-Black organization operated by Black folk is a positive for our struggle. This is not the zero sum game that some would have us believe.

Divide and conquer is the tactic of those that work to oppress us. In this case it is former BGLOs v. BGLOs. Neither position is superior because the focus is somewhat different. But, as a BGLO member, for someone to tell me that the service I put into the Black community is invalid because of the letters I proudly wear ... I don't know ...
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
Hey folks, wrong fight here ...

Just about any pro-Black organization operated by Black folk is a positive for our struggle. This is not the zero sum game that some would have us believe.

Divide and conquer is the tactic of those that work to oppress us. In this case it is former BGLOs v. BGLOs. Neither position is superior because the focus is somewhat different. But, as a BGLO member, for someone to tell me that the service I put into the Black community is invalid because of the letters I proudly wear ... I don't know ...


I'm not saying any service put in is invalid just because the person doing it has pledged. I am saying that I'm not seeing large amounts of service put in. Most people I see that are "Greek" are caught up into materialism/consumerism and not challenging the imperialist/capitalist system that oppresses us as Africans the world over. In fact most look like they are trying their hardest to become part of the oppressors plan(although they might not be conscious of it) I know a few people who joined Greek organizations that moved on to Pan-Africansim or African cenetered organizations and are activivists in the community, but they have left the "Greek" stuff behind and identify as Africans, some are ashamed they pledged and have said "it happened when they didn't know any better".

How can an organization be seperate from it's ideology? The entire ideology behind the Greek organizations stems from their Boule' foundations. These motives are not progressive. I don't mean to offend so many people by being critical of these organization's but that is the only way we as a people can grow, constructive criticism. I live in the South currently and was raised outside of L.A. I don't see any(or very few...I remember once or twice being hapilly surprised) people sporting their Greek letters at the soup kitchens, homeless shelters, African centered activities or educational centers, War protests, police protests, anti-globalism(WTO) protest, N'Cobra functions(National Coalition of Blacks for Reperations), or any of the other activism or activites going on locally, around this country, and/or globally. But I can't tell you how many "Greek" lincense plates I see on a daily basis. Or my personal favorite, if I go to a club or "purely" social function, then ALL are present and representing. I went to a historically Black University and was in the minority of people who didn't pledge.(I was already an African-centered person) I also see NONE of the majority who did pledge at ANY of the formerly mentioned activities, and yet I always here them talking about how they do work in the community. There may be a small few who actually participate in the community, but most are in it these organizations for social and/or professional "hook up" reasons during and after their college years.

On a more surface level, How can an organization or it's members really free our minds, let alone liberate anyone, when so many of it's members haven't even gotten past the Euro-centric version of beauty. The majority of the sisters still perm their hair! The guys are running after "yellow bones" or people with "good hair"(the same self-hatred problems the larger non-Greek community suffers from)...Come on now, this kind of stuff is "level one" when it comes to African centered consciousness....We have to draw the line somewhere. A contradiction is a contradiction. We aren't Greek, and neither is the organization "Greek" in origin...They are copies of White/European people's distorted and hijacked versions of the Ancient Nile Valley and Great Lakes region "mystery systems" in Africa (A mystery system to the Greeks that is, hence the title)....If this isn't even being acknowledges in the title....How progressive, African-centered, and mentally freeing can it be for the people? All I can do is call it how I see it.

Correction: I should actually have called a "perm" a "temporary chemical straightener". If it was permanent we wouldn't have to get it redone every 6 weeks, our African roots always kreep back in Smile...The enemy wants us to think our current condition is permanent...when it is only a temporary, just like the chemical hair straightenener.
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I did pledge a sorority. I was very much into "the organization" and into the "community service" when I was younger. But come to think of it, weren't we told being in a sorority would help us throughout our lives and the ubiquitous "what if you get an interview with a soror and she puts in that good word for you"? LOL

Although I have positive thoughts about my sorority, I seem to have not kept up to date with it. I am no longer active and I find myself pre-occupied with other organizations. I would like to see my sorority doing things like helping out in New Orleans or feeding children in Africa or urging folk to get HIV tests. These orgs. say they're "all about community service", but beyond a bake sale, or car wash or winter coat drive, are they really? Either I'm aging or my expectations are too great. I do see 100 Black Men and 100 Black women doing good works..
I'm a Delta, I loved being in a sorority in college. No one can tell you what the pledge process will be for you because it has changed in the 19 years since I pledged.

I have gotten jobs because I am a Delta, I have gotten into parties. I have gotten jobs becaus I attended a historically Black College. I have gotten jobs because I am qualified.

My best friends are my line sisters. I would not give them up for the world. In college you make friends that last a life time. While I have remained in contact with two of my many roommates tangential ally ,my line sisters and I make a point of calling each other and spending time together on a yearly basis. We talk on the phone regulary and have a email chain. So I would say do it. Sorority is a part of college life.
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I go to a school where there are no black sororities. I am interested in a black sorority. Can I pledge at another school.My schhol is an University but it is like a private school.


It all depends what is in your area...you will have to do your research on this one. If you already have an idea of what organization you will like to join then you can see if the org. has a city chapter where your school is located. But if that is not the case, you can forget being able to join during your undergraduate time. Unless you manage to get in touch with a graduate chapter that will not mind sposoring the chapter. But most black greek letter orgs. undergrads are pretty heavily watched over by the graduate chapters. If you want anymore info please feel free to hit me up....

Oh yeah I forgot to add...AKA is the one and only way for me.....
I recently joined a sorrority on my university's campus and I am a proud member of sigma sigma sigma sorrority.On my campus here we have a zero tolerance for hazing which is why we've already lost a few sorrorities and fraternities within the past year. Black sorrority wise we have zeta phi beta, and the deltas. We did have Alpha Kappa Alpha but they were kicked off campus recently for hazing which left a girl injured and hurt. The black sorrorities on my campus don't hold a rush which is what the other sorrorites do where you visit each house in small groups and you get invites back and you chose the hosue you want. I had offers to join the black zeta phi beta sorrority but I wanted to go through rush to see everything for myself before I chose which house I wanted and I'm glad I joined the house I did because the other house who wanted me is big into hazing. If your interested in going greek check it out for yourself and see what they have to offer, but going greek isn't for anyone like you can still have fun and all without joining a club or group of people to do it.
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I know a few people who joined Greek organizations that moved on to Pan-Africansim or African cenetered organizations and are activivists in the community, but they have left the "Greek" stuff behind and identify as Africans, some are ashamed they pledged and have said "it happened when they didn't know any better".

I am one of those people.

In following my father's footsteps, I had no idea what I was doing as a college frosh. I played ball and dreamed of being a professional. To a young dude, the Black men on my campus seemed distinguished and pops was in my ears about getting it done - so I did it. I didn't even know Pan Africanism existed. After I returned from my first trip to Africa and reading "The Stolen Legacy" I knew I had made the wrong decision. I am an African and I will never wear Greek letters again.

I am no longer active but I am part of a brotherhood... and we meet every year, break bread, and reflect. They have their own community agenda - and I have mines.
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Originally posted by rochelle:
I go to a school where there are no black sororities. I am interested in a black sorority. Can I pledge at another school.My schhol is an University but it is like a private school.

If you are going to pledge, please find a local chapter. Call the headquarters and do the research.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... don't pledge with white women. You will be twisted for life.

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