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Originally posted by jlokes:
The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want.

"Your Neighborhood"???

How the hell is it your neighborhood? Who the hell are you? And what neighborhood are you talking about?

Be specific... no more vague implications out of your stupid azz.

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Originally posted by jlokes:
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
Who died and made you the neighborhood dictator?


Thomas Jefferson

What we today call the "United States" has never and will never belong to White people alone!

Fuck you. fro
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The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want.

You also have the ability to have the neighborhood that you want. If people dont like it they can move or deal with it.

Its freedom people, use it before it is gone.


Ok....And your point is....?????
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Originally posted by Xeon:
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The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want.

You also have the ability to have the neighborhood that you want. If people dont like it they can move or deal with it.

Its freedom people, use it before it is gone.


Ok....And your point is....?????


That others should not have to pay more in taxes then others. There is no reason citizen A should pay for citizen B's children.
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Originally posted by jlokes:
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Originally posted by Xeon:
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The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want.

You also have the ability to have the neighborhood that you want. If people dont like it they can move or deal with it.

Its freedom people, use it before it is gone.


Ok....And your point is....?????


That others should not have to pay more in taxes then others. There is no reason citizen A should pay for citizen B's children.


Then you should be against most US wars. My and my parents' tax dollars are paying for those kids fighting in Iraq.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-earnedmoney.htm

"Why shouldn't the American people take half my money from me? I took all of it from them." --- Edward Albert Filene (1869-1937)

That's something that conservatives and right-wing libertarians never think about. They always complain about what someone is supposedly taking from them but they almost never stop and think "What have I taken from others?" Everytime they drive on a public road, walk on public property, call the police, use their healthcare plan, take a student loan, use a computer or the Internet or medical equipment (the technology for which origianlly came from NASA technology used for the space program and paid for by tax dollars), or even use valid legal tender they take from someone else. But no, it's all about them and their definition of "freedom". 'Freedom' and responsibility go hand in hand, freedom without responsibility is sociopathy.
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Originally posted by jlokes:
That others should not have to pay more in taxes then others. There is no reason citizen A should pay for citizen B's children.


By your logic then "citizen A" shouldn't pay for citizen B's" Social Security or health care either. We all pay taxes for government services we may not use or agree with. It's our civic responsibility.

btw:
Our tax system is based on our "ability to pay." The more money we earn, the more
taxes we pay. And the opposite is also true. If we earn a small income, we pay less
taxes.
If we take this dumb advice in this country; considering that there are far more poor white people in this country than there are poor Blacks, then his tax strategy would put at least poor African Americans at an advantage over poor whites in this country---- hell, you know that his suggestion could actually become a reality, considering that in America, the powers that BE do not give a damn about poor white people, never have, and never will.
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Originally posted by sunnubian:
This ignorant racist white trash is too ignorant of his own history or living too much in denial about it to know that he/she would have had to enter Thomas Jefferson's back door just like the slaves (and any other minorities).


I am not ignorant of the fact that there are way more poor white folks then any other demographics in the world. I am not talking about race, i am talking about personal responsibility.

It is your job to take care of your fucked up sister, it is my job to take care of my fucked up brother. There is no need for a federal agency to take money from working folks to pay for lazy bastards.

If a hard working person is in need, the community will recognize that and help them out. I am not against welfare, i am against federal welfare. States and the local community can determine need and want better then some federal government bureaucracy.

The fact that you think some assbaggs in Washington can treat people in your neighborhood better then the local community, is stupid to me.
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Originally posted by jlokes:
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Originally posted by sunnubian:
This ignorant racist white trash is too ignorant of his own history or living too much in denial about it to know that he/she would have had to enter Thomas Jefferson's back door just like the slaves (and any other minorities).


I am not ignorant of the fact that there are way more poor white folks then any other demographics in the world. I am not talking about race, i am talking about personal responsibility.

Funny how White people only start talking about "personal responsibility" after every deficit incurred by them that they expect a "pass" for.

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It is your job to take care of your fucked up sister, it is my job to take care of my fucked up brother.

There's some typical White entitlement for ya...

Who the fuck are you to decide what my job is???

I'll make that decision myself... if your high-and-mighty-white-azz doesn't mind.
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There is no need for a federal agency to take money from working folks to pay for lazy bastards.

Who are these "lazy bastards"?

Name them... and supply your judgment with some facts.

Fake-azz implications from you will not be accepted.
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Originally posted by jlokes:
I am not against welfare, i am against federal welfare. States and the local community can determine need and want better then some federal government bureaucracy.

The fact that you think some assbaggs in Washington can treat people in your neighborhood better then the local community, is stupid to me.


You should be concerned about and how those "assbaggs in Washington" favor corporations:

"The largest corporate-welfare payments go to the wealthiest corporations. These corporations are often among the biggest campaign donors to candidates of both major political parties."

Source.
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You also have the ability to have the neighborhood that you want. If people dont like it they can move or deal with it.


How much control do most people have over their neighborhood?

Usually all they can do is move. But if someone moves into your neighborhood doesn't that demonstrate a lack of control on your part. If you had control you would be able to decide whether to let them in or keep them out.

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Funny how White people only start talking about "personal responsibility" after every deficit incurred by them that they expect a "pass" for.


No BV ... They talk about "Personal Responsibility" BEFORE, DURUNG and AFTER they ask for the pass to not have to display personal responsibility. It's just that it never occurs to them that it should apply to them. And why should it? When you are used to making and changing the rules to suit you ... why should you think that the rules apply also to you?
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Originally posted by jlokes:
The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want.

You also have the ability to have the neighborhood that you want. If people dont like it they can move or deal with it.

Its freedom people, use it before it is gone.


This may be the dumbest topic I've ever seen on this site. It baffles me that anybody is bothering to address this foolishness. Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want


LJokes, er JLokes ... what are you, like 12? That comment right there is a pretty juvenile view of freedom.


LOL... He sounds like CONFEED's 10 year old son, doesn't he? But y'all are killin' me by engaging in actual substantive discussion with him on this goofy topic!
Confused
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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Funny how White people only start talking about "personal responsibility" after every deficit incurred by them that they expect a "pass" for.


No BV ... They talk about "Personal Responsibility" BEFORE, DURUNG and AFTER they ask for the pass to not have to display personal responsibility. It's just that it never occurs to them that it should apply to them. And why should it? When you are used to making and changing the rules to suit you ... why should you think that the rules apply also to you?


That is an excellent point.

Those who are against college affirmative action never take in account unqualified students who are admitted because of legacy polices displace more qualified students than minority students by a very wide margin. Yet these same people would protest school admittance policies that show grace for students of color who do not meet every academic standard.

Like you said they don't apply their own protest to themselves.
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Originally posted by Momentum:
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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Funny how White people only start talking about "personal responsibility" after every deficit incurred by them that they expect a "pass" for.


No BV ... They talk about "Personal Responsibility" BEFORE, DURUNG and AFTER they ask for the pass to not have to display personal responsibility. It's just that it never occurs to them that it should apply to them. And why should it? When you are used to making and changing the rules to suit you ... why should you think that the rules apply also to you?


That is an excellent point.

Those who are against college affirmative action never take in account unqualified students who are admitted because of legacy polices displace more qualified students than minority students by a very wide margin. Yet these same people would protest school admittance policies that show grace for students of color who do not meet every academic standard.

Like you said they don't apply their own protest to themselves.


That, and (now get this, sit down while reading this if you aren't already) they don't talk about personal responsibility for themselves because they believe/assume all or most white people are already completely personally responsible by default and that non-white peoples, especially black people, have no sense of personal responsibility before that white person "told" them about it. They believe that black people float through life with no worries or cares on welfare money without having to excersize any restraint and no one ever holds them responsible because of "political correctness". lol

I always envision that white people like that believe that the typical black person gets $10,000/month of tax-free welfare money and floats around the street listening to crappy modern hip-hop dancing and shouting in slang and indulges in every single whim that comes to them at a moment's notice. No other black people complain and the police simply stand by and watch helplessly. Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Momentum:
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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Funny how White people only start talking about "personal responsibility" after every deficit incurred by them that they expect a "pass" for.


No BV ... They talk about "Personal Responsibility" BEFORE, DURUNG and AFTER they ask for the pass to not have to display personal responsibility. It's just that it never occurs to them that it should apply to them. And why should it? When you are used to making and changing the rules to suit you ... why should you think that the rules apply also to you?


That is an excellent point.

Those who are against college affirmative action never take in account unqualified students who are admitted because of legacy polices displace more qualified students than minority students by a very wide margin. Yet these same people would protest school admittance policies that show grace for students of color who do not meet every academic standard.

Like you said they don't apply their own protest to themselves.


That, and (now get this, sit down while reading this if you aren't already) they don't talk about personal responsibility for themselves because they believe/assume all or most white people are already completely personally responsible by default and that non-white peoples, especially black people, have no sense of personal responsibility before that white person "told" them about it.



Naaah. I don't believe it.

They don't talk about personal responsibility for themselves principally because they're lacking in moral intelligence.

This is what makes them so dangerous as a group.

They're quick to moral outrage ... but are lacking in moral intelligence ... including cognizance of the simple idea that a "universal" principle applies to everyone .. including the person who wishes to apply the principle.

This is the same group that spread Christianity around the globe ... killing people the whole time ....
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Naaah. I don't believe it.

They don't talk about personal responsibility for themselves principally because they're lacking in moral intelligence.


You think so? You're a less cynical man than I am. I tend to think many of them really do have this idiotic, unrealistic view of the world where most White men are like Beaver Cleaver's dad and most Black men are like Martin Lawerence's movie characters or like Lil' Wayne. When you sit down and talk to these idiots they always seem (or at least act) like they assume most White people are resposible people as a given and assume most Black people are irresponsible.

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This is what makes them so dangerous as a group.

They're quick to moral outrage ... but are lacking in moral intelligence


Many of them seem to think whatever crimes their ancestors committed was:

1) Bad but long gone and no longer having an effect or

2) Actually not as bad as people describe it

Many seem to think their own present sins (like foreign wars and racial profiling) are completely justified because the people they harmed "deserved it anyway". That's how they rationalize it to themselves.

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... including cognizance of the simple idea that a "universal" principle applies to everyone .. including the person who wishes to apply the principle.

This is the same group that spread Christianity around the globe ... killing people the whole time ....


But hey, those people needed to be converted. Sure it wasn't nice but it was for their own good. Wink
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I am not ignorant of the fact that there are way more poor white folks then any other demographics in the world. I am not talking about race, i am talking about personal responsibility.

It is your job to take care of your fucked up sister, it is my job to take care of my fucked up brother. There is no need for a federal agency to take money from working folks to pay for lazy bastards.

If a hard working person is in need, the community will recognize that and help them out. I am not against welfare, i am against federal welfare. States and the local community can determine need and want better then some federal government bureaucracy.

The fact that you think some assbaggs in Washington can treat people in your neighborhood better then the local community, is stupid to me.

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Well, when the Federal Government stops taking tax dollars from its citizens, then you premise might be warranted, but until they do, people would be stupid as hell to give money to any government that is going to hord it all to itself and politicians' chosen few 'special interest' groups.
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Originally posted by jlokes:
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
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Thomas Jefferson
aka racist fuck


20 Read dude, read and inform yourself


Like I said...

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A black, after hard labour through the day, will be induced by the slightest amusements to sit up till midnight, or later, though knowing he must be out with the first dawn of the morning. They are at least as brave, and more adventuresome. But this may perhaps proceed from a want of forethought, which prevents their seeing a danger till it be present. When present, they do not go through it with more coolness or steadiness than the whites. They are more ardent after their female: but love seems with them to be more an eager desire, than a tender delicate mixture of sentiment and sensation. Their griefs are transient. Those numberless afflictions, which render it doubtful whether heaven has given life to us in mercy or in wrath, are less felt, and sooner forgotten with them.


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Comparing them by their faculties of memory, reason, and imagination, it appears to me, that in memory they are equal to the whites; in reason much inferior, as I think one could scarcely be found capable of tracing and comprehending the investigations of Euclid; and that in imagination they are dull, tasteless, and anomalous. It would be unfair to follow them to Africa for this investigation. We will consider them here, on the same stage with the whites, and where the facts are not apocryphal on which a judgment is to be formed. It will be right to make great allowances for the difference of condition, of education, of conversation, of the sphere in which they move. Many millions of them have been brought to, and born in America. Most of them indeed have been confined to tillage, to their own homes, and their own society: yet many have been so situated, that they might have availed themselves of the conversation of their masters; many have been brought up to the handicraft arts, and from that circumstance have always been associated with the whites. Some have been liberally educated, and all have lived in countries where the arts and sciences are cultivated to a considerable degree, and have had before their eyes samples of the best works from abroad. The Indians, with no advantages of this kind, will often carve figures on their pipes not destitute of design and merit. They will crayon out an animal, a plant, or a country, so as to prove the existence of a germ in their minds which only wants cultivation. They astonish you with strokes of the most sublime oratory; such as prove their reason and sentiment strong, their imagination glowing and elevated. But never yet could I find that a black had uttered a thought above the level of plain narration; never see even an elementary trait of painting or sculpture.


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To our reproach it must be said, that though for a century and a half we have had under our eyes the races of black and of red men, they have never yet been viewed by us as subjects of natural history. advance it therefore as a suspicion only, that the blacks, whether originally a distinct race, or made distinct by time and circumstances, are inferior to the whites in the endowments both of body and mind. It is not against experience to suppose, that different species of the same genus, or varieties of the same species, may possess different qualifications.




http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=JefVirg...art=14&division=div1


Racist fuck.
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by jlokes:
The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want.

You also have the ability to have the neighborhood that you want. If people dont like it they can move or deal with it.

Its freedom people, use it before it is gone.


This may be the dumbest topic I've ever seen on this site. It baffles me that anybody is bothering to address this foolishness. Roll Eyes



Co-sign...

His responses and logic read like he is a child...
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Originally posted by Khalliqa:
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by jlokes:
The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want.

You also have the ability to have the neighborhood that you want. If people dont like it they can move or deal with it.

Its freedom people, use it before it is gone.


This may be the dumbest topic I've ever seen on this site. It baffles me that anybody is bothering to address this foolishness. Roll Eyes



Co-sign...

His responses and logic read like he is a child...



What else would you expect from a crackhead?
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Originally posted by Black Viking:
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
They don't talk about personal responsibility for themselves principally because they're lacking in moral intelligence.

Compounded by a lack of intellectual integrity.

That's what allows them to continue lacking in moral intelligence and never having to truly face it.


Which as a result, both historically and currently, they wrongly prefer to choose white stupidity over black intelligence, and then have the nerve to blame US for their bad, foolish judgment.
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Originally posted by jlokes:
The whole point of the freedom we got is that i have the right to piss you off and have my neighborhood as i want.

You also have the ability to have the neighborhood that you want. If people dont like it they can move or deal with it.

Its freedom people, use it before it is gone.


jlokes,

We are alike in that we both treasure individual freedom. However, you sem to miss the fact that freedoms are not absolute, no matter how much we'd like them to be. Take our freedom of speech, for example. The First Amendment of the Constitution guarantees us our freedom of speech, however you can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded venue, and if you intentionally spread false information about a person that harms their professional reputation, you can be subjected to a slander suit.

The point to take away from this is that your rights end where another's rights begin. That being said, what exactly is your point? Your opening post is ambiguously worded, and the poor grammar does not help in clarifying matters

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