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Now, I've been following the bashing of the economy as much as anyone, and to be honest I've known for a long time there were never any 3 million jobs lost under Bush, since new unemployment conpensation claims topped out at about 800,000 new claims net, at the height of the so-called recession. So I've known for a while that the majority of those who lost jobs simply went on to new jobs, as most people usually do.

Well, here are the facts and figures for each of us to examine.

Our economy is booming at historic levels. Yet myths of a "jobless" recovery are being pushed by politicians hoping to reap votes from your misery. Before you buy into any of the dire job loss statistics reported by people running for president or their willing accomplices, check out the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics.

News Releases: Unemployment Figures Then and Now...
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
http://www.bls.gov/bls/newsrels.htm
(ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsit.02022001.news)

The employed civilian labor force had 135,999,000 workers during the early days of the recession in January 2001 when Bill Clinton left office. The employed civilian labor force at the end of last month, with the recession long over, was 138,603,000. Those raw numbers show 2.6 million MORE jobs now.

So you can see why I distrust the figures of those Democrats with a political motive for painting job loss as awful as possible, who make wild claims of 2.3 to 3.7 to 475 billion jobs lost under Bush. Besides, common sense tells us that some people who "lose" jobs actually go out and get new ones - much to the DNC's dismay.

Now, Bill Clinton left us with 135,999,000 jobs. Today there are 138,603,000 jobs. Do the math folks, its a real eye-opener.
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Hello Sergeant,

Indeed, President George Bush has been a very good President, so much so, that a good possibility exists, that George Bush will be re-elected. Why so many Black people condemn George Bush is beyond me, because he has done nothing to disrespect Black people.

Condoleeza Rice has done nothing to betray Black people. From the reaction of quite a few people on this board to disrespect Condoleeza Rice, the reader would think that those who make such statements, picture Condoleeza Rice as the greatest traitor to the Black community who ever walked.

On the other hand many Democratic leaders who have truly disrespected, cheated, deceived, and/or criminally violated the Black community, are given atta boys and girls beyond belief.

.....but Oh well, again more so than not, far too many Black people, especially as it relates to the well connected, the so called university educated, that disgraceful Black middle class, condemn those worthy of praise, and honor the truly disgraceful, sleazy, criminal, illegal immigrant, traitor, etc.

.....and the days are numbered for the many liberal Democrats of deceit who have misused tax payer's dollars to disregard the rights of the law abiding men, women, or children. The Republican Party more so than the Democratic Party, will cut funding or take action to criminally prosecute those who choose to be so un-American, criminal, sleazy, treasonous, etc.


,,,yet one more example to which Black people honor the sleazy, a liar, a fraudulent Dr. Martin Luther King, whose real name is Michael King, to which the many unsung heroes of Black America, who are truly worth honoring continue to go un-noticed or they are disrespected!

....Perhaps this is key reason as to why the Black community continues to be the most poverty stricken, deadly, clinging on to life community in the U.S. Can't support or defend perversion, treason, disgraceful or unethical activity, and expect to get ahead in the great United States of America, which continues to be the greatest, most respected, most ethical, most humane, nation on the planet.

Michael Lofton

[This message was edited by Lofton on December 15, 2003 at 08:31 AM.]
Yep, there's been this huge influx of jobs in the economy. We've replaced software designers with Starbuck servers. But a serious question is would YOU want any of them? Can anyone support a family with them?

The majority of the jobs created are minimum wage, part-time positions that usually have something to do with asking, "Do you want fries with that?"

It's shameful that culture, even in the face of all the scandals, encourages corporate execs to lay-off thousands of employees and then give themselves huge bonuses, that more than surpass any cost savings for the lay-offs. I realize that this is not the fault of the Bush administration, per se. But, one can't argue that this administration has certainly set the tone.
Yep,


with black unemployment in double digits and twice as high as white unemployment, I can see negroes lauding W. The same president who specifically spoke out against affirmative action in college admissions and obviously business/gov't contracting. You negroes(Lofton and Sgt) are not even bothered by the fact that blacks are not even making any of your tax money as others are stealing and overcharging the gov't and keeping all of the work to themselves. Yes Kweli, the jobs are all minimum wage service industry jobs as the manufacturing and even technical jobs are being farmed out elsewhere. And then you wonder why urban areas are high-crime? the direct result of a lack of jobs and educational opportunities. If that were not the case, you would find the the same behavior in middle and upper-class black communities. sorry to disappoint ya'll but it does not work like that. I really think some blacks are underacheivers, do not have any plans to get off of their lazy azzes and accomplish anything more, so they would like to see other motivated blacks in their same "boat" so they can feel better about themselves........i cannot think of any other reason to always work counter to the progress of your people. i personally would like others to share in the success that i have enjoyed, made possible because of the efforts of other blacks before me.......
Lofton posted,

Condoleeza Rice has done nothing to betray Black people. From the reaction of quite a few people on this board to disrespect Condoleeza Rice, the reader would think that those who make such statements, picture Condoleeza Rice as the greatest traitor to the Black community who ever walked.



** Condi is a delusional fool sometimes which has nothing to do with how she performs professionally and academically. She has eluded to the civil rights movement maybe not being necessary based on being allowed to change in a white dressing room as a little girl. All of that such as the dogs, hoses and beatings and her father having to sit outside with a rifle with the other men so the klan wouldn't burn them down at night and her girlfriends getting killed by klan bombings just shows how much house negroes will deny their own reality to be in good graces with massa. Even to this day, that strange slave/massa relationship carries on..
"The employed civilian labor force had 135,999,000 workers during the early days of the recession in January 2001 when Bill Clinton left office. The employed civilian labor force at the end of last month, with the recession long over, was 138,603,000. Those raw numbers show 2.6 million MORE jobs now. "

That's a bit misleading, sarge. For starters, there's quite a difference between job growth and job demand. The job market aspect of a recession does not require that the number of jobs available drop, but that the number of available jobs grow more slowly that the number of people looking for work. So to say that there's no problem in the job market if there were 2.6 million more jobs created belies the fact that to maintain our employment rate of the Clinton years, we would have needed upwards of 4 million new jobs just to keep up.

Besides which, under Clinton (and I'm not saying democrats can take all the credit for this) the unemployment rate peaked at only 4.2% and up to 6 million people were out of work (from your bls sources). Now we are at 5.9% unemployment and 8.7 million are out of work, and that's after the 2.6 million extra jobs. That's a net loss of 2.7 million, because that's how many more people are out of work now due to lackluster job growth. Basically, what increases we have seen were not high enough to maintain our previous levels of growth, and that's one of the hallmarks of a recession. You won't find too many economists who would dispute that it was a recession at this late date.
I posted earlier:

Yes Kweli, the jobs are all minimum wage service industry jobs as the manufacturing and even technical jobs are being farmed out elsewhere.


**Below is just a tip of the iceberg...I'm just posting it to support my statement, a practice many need to learn in here.

IBM to Export Highly Paid Jobs to India, China
Mon Dec 15,12:14 AM ET


In one of the largest moves to "offshore" highly paid U.S. software jobs, International Business Machines Corp. (NYSE:IBM - News) has told its managers to plan on moving the work of as many as 4,730 programmers to India, China and elsewhere, Monday's Wall Street Journal reported.

The unannounced plan, outlined in company documents viewed by The Wall Street Journal, would replace thousands of workers at IBM facilities in Southbury, Conn., Poughkeepsie, N.Y., Raleigh, N.C., Dallas, Boulder, Colo., and elsewhere in the U.S.Already, the managers have been told, IBM has hired 500 engineers in India to take on some of the work that will be moved.


IBM calls its plan, first presented internally to some midlevel managers in October, "Global Sourcing." It involves people in its Application Management Services group, a part of IBM's giant global-services operations, which comprise more than half IBM's 315,000 employees.


IBM's plan, still under development, will take place over a number of months in stages. About 947 people are scheduled to be notified during the first half of the coming year that their work will be handled overseas in the future. It isn't yet clear how many of the other 3,700 jobs identified as "potential to move offshore" in the IBM documents will move next year or some time later.


However, the fate of some of the targeted jobs isn't certain: IBM managers still haven't figured out whether all of the work the jobs represent can be performed just as well abroad. The jobs involve updating and improving software for IBM's own business operations.


Some workers are scheduled to be informed of the plan for their jobs by the end of January. After that they will be expected to train an overseas replacement worker in the U.S. for several weeks. The IBM workers marked for replacement have 60 days to find another job inside the company, likely to be a difficult task at a time when IBM is holding down hiring.


IBM declined to comment on what it called "internal presentations."


Wall Street Journal Staff Reporters William M. Bulkeley and Peter Fritsch contributed to this article.
This is for Lofton and Sgt who like to sing that "how gud we's gots it" tune.
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Unemployment Among Latinos, Blacks Remains High
Despite the recent pronouncements in the media and by President Bush that the economy is on the road to recovery, Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Chair Elijah E. Cummings, D-Md., said unemployment among Latinos and African American remains in the double digits.

"While it is welcome news that some Americans are finding work, these new numbers are disappointing when one considers the record growth in the gross domestic product recently announced by the U.S. Department of Commerce," said Cummings in a written statement. The job report also indicates that while the African-American unemployment rate fell to 10.1 percent in November, down from 10.9 in October, the Latino unemployment rose to 7.4 percent, up from 5.8 percent during the same period.

Overall, the economy is showing signs of a recovery, and there is reason for optimism Bush said in his weekly radio address on Saturday. "The American economy continues on a solid path of recovery. With strong sales and improving profits, companies will continue to hire new workers in the coming year."

According to figures released by the U.S. Department of Labor, as of November, the national unemployment rate stands at 5.9 percent, with the economy creating 57,000 new jobs. In addition, 328,000 jobs have been added over the last four months – the most robust four-month job growth record in nearly three years.

Still, Cummings said with so many Americans out of work, there isn't much to celebrate. "When we consider that over 2 million Americans have been unemployed for more than six months, and that about 3 million Americans have lost their jobs since January 2001, and close to 9 million Americans will wake up tomorrow morning without a job, now is not the time to celebrate or pat ourselves on the back."
"Lofton and Sgt who like to sing that "how gud we's gots it" tune." by Kevin41

.......and this is for those who may not know but need to know, the Kevin41's input don't count for anything, because such information is a misrepresentation of the reality of it.

Well,

Unemployment has always been high in the Black community. It was high during the Clinton, Nixon, LBJ, Reagon, Bush, administrations, etc., etc.

Besides, the amount of money given to the many jackleg poverty pimping Black preachers in our own community alone, would provide the funding for numerous business opportunities to lower the unemployment rate in our own community.

There is really no excuse for the level of unemployment in the Black community considering the reality of what truly goes on, with regard to blatant sleaze, wastefulness, gross incompetence, greed beyond belief, etc., on the part of our own preachers, elected officials, the Black middle class, etc.

...and our Black elected leadership, in deceitful many times using false pretenses to hold elected office, Congressional Black Caucus, hold policy making positions, which make it possible for numerous business opportunities should these individuals exercise the power vested in any elected office holder to serve the people, and not special or foreign interests. Civil lawsuit for damages alone, would bring in an enormous amount of economic resources to provide a much needed economic base in the Black community.

The many atrocities perpetrated by the illegal and unwarranted actions of police officers, other government employees, etc., against the truly innocent of Black America, are worth dollars signs in the U.S., as applied to using the court system for redress,......

......but Oh Well......... this very deceitful bunch of no good Black elected officials choose to play games, look out for their personal friends, or paint the picture that is all Caucasian America's fault that numerous Black men and women fill the unemployment lines, as it pertains to those who have not given up, while they themselves bend over backwards to serve every other community but the Black community.

Unlike Condoleeza Rice, who is employee of the President George Bush Administration, the elected leadership of the CBC have the power and freedom to make things happen.

Elected officials are bound by law and sworn in under oath to serve the people of the communities within the jurisdictions to which they hold elected office. Instead of making things happen, to improve the quality of life within the inner-city, and/or within the jurisdiction sworn under oath to serve, our own Black elected leadership and/or many of the so-called Black middle class, choose to promote social welfare, the destruction of the traditional Black family unit, and/or penal incarceration for profit, so that they can send their kids to Caucasian run private schools, purchase property in an exclusive affluent Caucasian community, buy luxury vehicles, etc.

I'm sure that sergeant and/or those who truly look at the reality, would have an entirely different view, than a Kevin41, and/or the rest of the blame Caucasian America, the Republican Party, or the Bush Administration, etc., for demise of the Black community, be it employment issues or otherwise.

Those who need to get off their tailbone, because they are truly lazy, are in fact our own elected leadership, and the Black middleclass, who continue to feed the Black community all this garbage, that the dismal conditions that exist in the Black community are a result of "Racist Caucasians, the Republicans, etc., which is very far from the reality of it. Our own Black elected leadership, and/or the Democratic Party have been large and in charge of the Black community for well over thirty years, to which high unemployment is not some new found revelation as it pertains to the unemployed, the disenfranchised, the unrepresented, the sick, the elderly, the disabled, the homeless, heads of households, etc.

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Inspectors Rebuke King/Drew
Report says nurses are lax in giving basic care, accuses county of failing to fix problems.
By Charles Ornstein and Tracy Weber
Times Staff Writers

December 9, 2003

Government health inspectors have delivered a harsh broadside to Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center, saying that its nurses shirk basic patient care, doctors allow known problems to fester and county officials provide poor oversight.

The findings, outlined Monday in a memo by Los Angeles County's health chief to the Board of Supervisors, stem from the most far-reaching investigation of the hospital in years, extending well beyond its ongoing troubles with its physician training programs. If uncorrected, the violations could lead to the loss of federal funding, although such a move would be unusual.

Acting on behalf of the federal government, state inspectors delivered their preliminary findings to local health officials Friday after a four-day surprise visit. Their inspection was triggered by a state inquiry into the recent deaths of two King/Drew patients, both of whom deteriorated undetected despite being connected to cardiac monitors. The U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services will issue a formal report on the latest review as early as next month.

With these findings, King/Drew is under attack by agencies from the local to the national levels. In recent months, an accrediting group stripped the county-owned hospital of its ability to train aspiring surgeons and radiologists, and recommended closing the neonatology training program. The loss of physician training programs is already a potentially crippling blow to a hospital that serves a largely minority and impoverished community.

"We have a mess on our hands, without a doubt," said Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, who has been on the board nine years. "King/Drew has been a bottomless pit of problems that have in large measure been inadequately addressed. And now the cumulative effect of this decades-long neglect is that the whole institution is threatened."

According to the memo prepared by health department Director Dr. Thomas Garthwaite, the inspectors found:

"¢ Nurses are not meeting fundamental expectations for care "” showing a serious lack of attention to patients when they are first examined, while they are being treated at the hospital and specifically when they are in pain. They also are responsible for errors and omissions in patient records.

"¢ Problems with patient care and physicians are identified but changes are not made.

"¢ The hospital's governing body, which is ultimately the Board of Supervisors, will probably be cited for its lack of oversight, which means it must come up with a plan of correction. The supervisors delegate their authority over health care to the health department director.

Previously, Garthwaite has defended the quality of care provided at King/Drew, saying that it was comparable to other county hospitals. But in an interview Monday, he said he could no longer provide that assurance.

"I certainly feel less comfortable saying anything about the quality of care until we get additional studies done, additional actions taken," he said.

Garthwaite went on to say that the outside inspectors are looking into the death of another patient, this time because of a possible prescription drug error. He said he did not yet know the identity of the patient or the circumstances.

As a result of his uneasiness with the state of the hospital, Garthwaite said he continues to move new managers from the health department into all areas of King/Drew to find problems and fix them.

Under the current leadership, he said, "I couldn't assure myself that the right decisions were being made and that people were taking accountability for their actions and for the quality of care," he said.

Yaroslavsky said he also questions whether King/Drew patients receive comparable care to that delivered at other county hospitals.

"It's a disaster when people are not being adequately cared for," he said. "People who are taken to Martin Luther King deserve the same quality of care as when they are taking to L.A. County-USC [Medical Center].... That obviously has not been the case."

Supervisor Yvonne Brathwaite Burke, who represents the district that includes the hospital, called the latest inspection "absolutely troubling." She conceded that she and fellow supervisors bore some of the responsibility for not addressing the problems sooner and more aggressively.

"I think that we have dropped the ball in the sense that we have not demanded corrective action and immediate action as we've heard each one of these things," she said.

She added, however, that she was hoping that "the board doesn't take the position that we have to give up on King."

Dr. Alfred Forrest, the hospital's interim medical director, said the hospital will fix any problems identified by the inspectors. "Whatever their concerns are, we will address them. We have to," he said.

While county officials do not yet know the details of last week's inspection, a state report into the two deaths last summer found clear fault with the care delivered by nurses and other employees.

According to a report issued last month by the state Department of Health Services, nurses failed to notice over a 45-minute period that one patient's heart had slowed and then stopped. Also, some nurses apparently had never been taught to use new bedside monitors and one nurse lied about performing crucial tests ordered by a doctor. After being questioned, that nurse never returned to the hospital and was fired.

In both patients' cases, a technician assigned to watch a central monitor displaying patients' vital signs was also given other duties. It is unclear if anyone was watching the monitor when the women needed emergency attention.

Yesenia Reyes, a critical-care nurse at King/Drew, defended the quality of the nursing staff and said the staff is trying to deliver "caring, compassionate and competent care to our culturally diverse community."

Reyes said that nursing cuts, however, have at times hindered providing the best care. "At times we have to assist with basic care, do the bedpans and also give our medications.... We are working very hard."

The problems at King/Drew are prompting health officials and county supervisors to question the hospital's ability to serve its core community. Garthwaite said it may be time to cut back the number of specialty services offered at King/Drew in order to focus on basic medical care.

And Yaroslavsky said it may be time to reconsider whether the county should be contracting with Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science to run its doctor training programs at King/Drew.

"How long should the community wait when lives are hanging in the balance, literally hanging in the balance?" he asked.


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The published factual accounting as shown above is an example where Black doctors, nurses, administrators, elected officials in using false pretenses to hold elected office....don't intend to serve the people who live in the community no good 2nd District Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, are large and in charge. Their greed to make money, took precedence over their actions to do the right thing. More so than any action or inaction on the part of Caucasians, the Republican Party, President Bush, Condoleeza Rice, each of these individuals have contributed to their own firing, unemployment, the prospect of closing down Martin Luther King County...A.K.A......"Butcher King"..."Killer King".....Hospital.

"You negroes(Lofton and Sgt) are not even bothered by the fact that blacks are not even making any of your tax money as others are stealing and overcharging the gov't and keeping all of the work to themselves." by Kevin41

....and if this is in fact the case, it means our own Black elected officials are in on the take too, while they deceive the Black community into believing that it is all Caucasian America's doing. Believe it, or not, elected officials have control over government assets, tax payers dollars that are earmarked for the jurisdiction to which they are bound by law to represent.

Like usual, it is so much easier to blame the Bush Administration, Condoleeza Rice, the Republican Party, because passing the "Buck" gives our own elected officials, Black lawyers, the so-called Black middle class, an excuse to do nothing, except point the finger at everyone else except themselves.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

[This message was edited by Lofton on December 15, 2003 at 07:20 PM.]
The issue of high black unemployment during this time is truthful and cannot be attributed to actions directly associated with blacks themselves.



Statement from an article I read

*Already the black unemployment rate - which declined every year that Bill Clinton was in the White House - has risen 25 percent since Bush because the nation's chief executive.

** The recent National Urban League report, "The State of Black America 2000," said black unemployment, though still twice that of whites, was at an all- time low, with a corresponding uptick in college enrollment and housing ownership.

From an article written by Julius Wilson

**We're experiencing an unemployment rate that has plummeted to 4.2 percent. The black unemployment rate is now the lowest since the Bureau of Labor Statistics started collecting that data in 1972.


From another article:

Black Unemployment Rises Faster
(July 13, 2003)
Unemployment among blacks is rising at a faster pace than in any similar period since the mid-1970's, and the jobs lost have been mostly in manufacturing, where the pay for blacks has historically been higher than in many other fields.

Nearly 2.6 million jobs have disappeared over all during the last 28 months, which began with a brief recession that has faded into a weak recovery. Nearly 90 percent of those lost jobs were in manufacturing, according to government data, with blacks hit disproportionately harder than whites.

**Go figure......
quote:
Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
Kevin, One more time, DAMMIT.

It's our fault that we have a higher unemployment rate, because we ... because we ... because ... because White folks say it's not their fault. Discrimination has nothing to do with it. After all, White folks should be free to hire anyone that they like. bs
Kweli...

You forgot:
White folks by the force of history should have been free to basically monopolize all of America's enterprises so that today (as they pass down their inheritance via heirs or sell their fortunes to "people they like") they can still do what they like!

They can have their cake (and everybody else's as it were/is historically) and eat them all too!

Yeah! The fact that they dominate industry by hook or more specifically CROOK doesn't matter. They dominate it and it's their right to... it's... theirs... to... do... as they... wish... Confused

Yeah! Next time a thief breaks into your house while you're gone or forcibly seizes it and hold you hostage... I can see how they have a right to do with that house whatever they want to do. It's theirs now since they've claimed and passed it down to their heirs. That gives their heirs even more rights to that "stolen" property!

You know they "improved" it so much!

Their entitled to it all now!
Ahhh Kweli and Nmaginate,

My bad....I don't know why i keep fighting Lofton's effort to change my thinking from the way "dem black folk" think. I need to realize that the white man is good and in the image of God and that blacks like myself are just ungrateful and unappreciative. as a black man, i should be happy for any job..cuz dey really don't have to GIVE me one in the first place.


** damn....my apologies
"My bad....I don't know why i keep fighting Lofton's effort to change my thinking from the way "dem black folk" think. I need to realize that the white man is good and in the image of God and that blacks like myself are just ungrateful and unappreciative. as a black man, i should be happy for any job..cuz dey really don't have to GIVE me one in the first place." by Kevin41

...and I'm not about to change my ways to give respect to individuals who are treasonous, sleazy, incompetent, sacrilegious, criminal, unethical, immoral, etc., over others truly deserving of admiration and respect. You go your way, and I'll go my way, .....but guess what, believe it or not, there are far more people in my camp than in yours.

Any preacher who does not practice what he preaches is not worth the time of day. Since these truths have been exposed about Michael King on numerous occasions, many individuals who previously respected Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., have truly lost all respect for him.

I don't owe you an answer to your question because Michael King is not worth my respect.

As for struggling academically, I've done very well, Thank You, to which your imagination, pompousness, etc., to erroneously brand me as otherwise, is as you've put it to me, truly irrelevant.


Heck, I would do the same to my grandfather, my grandfather being a Methodist preacher, should he be that preacher who cheats on his wife, lies about himself, plagiarizes the work of others to receive that doctorate degree, etc.

Since my grandfather was honorable, and did not do the things that a disgraceful Michael King has done, he will always have my respect, until I die.

I'm not about to flip this script for anyone, including my own immediate family or relatives, because respect is earned and not given away, like giving away candy to children on Halloween night.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton


[This message was edited by Lofton on December 17, 2003 at 11:20 AM.]
Lofton,

I see you did not respond to anything that related to the post.....jobs and the high black unemployment. Since you like to divert from the topic and repeat yourself across threads, i'll just pot my reply again from the other thread.

**Too bad negroes like you benefitted from the eforts of MLK. I am going to quit wasting my time with you because you are very small-minded and your priorities are all screwed up Lofton. Go ahead and continue to hate everything and everyone black and finish buck-dancing for whites over at PW. I am just glad I am proud to be a black person, comfortable with who I am and place as much criticism on myself as I do others. You are a very troubled man and do not really embrace logical thinking. I used to really resent guys like you but now I pity you more than anything. Whatever you are trying to get out of your system at the expense of black people, I hope you purge yourself accordingly. Your dialogue is very useless as it is filled fulled of ranting with no substance whatsoever. from now on, I'll only deal with negroes like you in person, because you coud be anyone behind a keyboard playing the racial antagonist role. You have come in here and spread many many lies and exaggerations that you could not substantiate. I see that many of the progressive blacks in here do not really respond to your nonsense. I hope I become as smart as they are....so i will not go back and forth with you......I just present questions to you which I know you will sidestep and divert. Obviously you are not that acacdemically inclined, because if you were, you would include more facts in your postings, be able to back up what you say in a factual manner.....and leave the emotional PMS-sounding diatribe out. So knock yourself out......because if you think these dignified and accomplished black people give a f-ck what a lunatic hood rat thinks or what he respects....then you are waaaay out there......
I see you did not respond to anything that related to the post.....jobs and the high black unemployment. Since you like to divert from the topic and repeat yourself across threads, i'll just pot my reply again from the other thread.

**Too bad negroes like you benefitted from the eforts of MLK. I am going to quit wasting my time with you because you are very small-minded and your priorities are all screwed up Lofton. Go ahead and continue to hate everything and everyone black and finish buck-dancing for whites over at PW. I am just glad I am proud to be a black person, comfortable with who I am and place as much criticism on myself as I do others. You are a very troubled man and do not really embrace logical thinking. I used to really resent guys like you but now I pity you more than anything. Whatever you are trying to get out of your system at the expense of black people, I hope you purge yourself accordingly. Your dialogue is very useless as it is filled fulled of ranting with no substance whatsoever. from now on, I'll only deal with negroes like you in person, because you coud be anyone behind a keyboard playing the racial antagonist role. You have come in here and spread many many lies and exaggerations that you could not substantiate. I see that many of the progressive blacks in here do not really respond to your nonsense. I hope I become as smart as they are....so i will not go back and forth with you......I just present questions to you which I know you will sidestep and divert. Obviously you are not that acacdemically inclined, because if you were, you would include more facts in your postings, be able to back up what you say in a factual manner.....and leave the emotional PMS-sounding diatribe out. So knock yourself out......because if you think these dignified and accomplished black people give a f-ck what a lunatic hood rat thinks or what he respects....then you are waaaay out there......


That was easy,

MLL

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