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Internet dating is a new phenomenon that I don't really get. Back when chat and stuff popped off I did mack a few girls online but even back then it was considered weird, here are a few questions about it. I had a former boss that is in a strong relationship found through a dating site, I have two cousins, one of whom got married who went the same route. Here we go:
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Personally - as a busy adult/parent - I had no time for chasing women in a club/bar scene etc. In fact, I've never had a serious relationship with someone who I met in that kind of social setting. I worked crazy hours and my opportunities to meet a variety of women was limited. Online dating was a way to connect and at least get interesting new introductions.

In thinking about it, I'm not sure how the use of technology/the web to connect people got the stigma it has/had. To me, the stigma seems foolish in the way that if talking to someone on a cell phone had a stigma versus on a land line. It's just another way to connect, right? Who cares that one uses one form of technology versus another? Confused
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If you are single, or if you WERE single would you date someone off the internet or through a internet based dating site?

Definitely... I have and will continue to do so. I find internet dating to be highly preferable to the bar/club scene. I'm just too old for that shit. I hate clubs because they're too loud for me to actually talk to any women (which I really enjoy doing). Bars are a little better on noise, but typically any woman I meet in a bar isn't likely to be my type.

On the other hand, the internet is an excellent way to to meet a large number of new people with a wide variety of interests/backrounds/situations... but within certain parameters. For example, I absolutely refuse to date any woman under the age of 24 under any circumstances. An internet dating site can allow me to connect with variety of women using parameters that are important to me.

Also, along the same lines as MBM... my schedule is just off the wall crazy. It's a monumental task to meet anyone at all outside of a business environment (and I never shit where I sleep).

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Have you ever been attracted to someone purely through an online connection - IE a message board, dating site, chat room.

I vote yes... but honestly it's conditional. I've never been attracted to someone "purely" through on-line connection. However, I've found myself in varying degrees of relationships with several people that started on-line.

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Are net based romances equal to to in person romances.

Only if it's a net-based romance that becomes an in-person romance. The internet is a excellent tool for meeting people... but if you never actually meet it can hardly qualify as a romance.
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Originally posted by Black Viking:
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If you are single, or if you WERE single would you date someone off the internet or through a internet based dating site?

Definitely... I have and will continue to do so.


yeah

The Internet, as a tool for dating, is a wonderful way to meet people and eventually date.

However, it certainly isn't for everyone ... and I don't think, generally speaking, that it's something that most people can negotiate in a positive manner! Wink
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If you are single, or if you WERE single would you date someone off the internet or through a internet based dating site?


Beyond my antagonism for dating in general... Big Grin, it seems the primarily lure of dating sites is the physical "hook up".... or the lure is physical attraction via photo... this seems shallow and possibly dangerous...


Although I am only commenting because I do find that the internet is excellent for engaging someone without having them lust for you physically.. though flirting happens.. one can easily avert this... in person it is a little more difficult...

when on the internet.. the physical form is moot and the person's mind/thinking is on display....

I like this...
Meeting men in my area/city, has always been a challenge, for various reasons. Therefore using the internet, has always been good.......because i was able to meet a lot of decent men, outside of my area/city.

Oddly enough, i've dated a couple of men, (from my area) that i met online.

Although it takes getting use to, it opens the door, to a large variety of people in which to network, date, etc.
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Originally posted by ddouble:
Unless things have changed since the late 90s, in my experience, only 2 out of every 10 women were exactly what they claimed to be (age, profession, size, looks, etc.).

That 20% though.... eyes


You know, I have never understood this! Why front about something that could be so easily proven to be false if the two of you ever were to actually meet in person?? 19

Have you ever asked any one of those women what would make them do a thing like that? sck Confused
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by ddouble:
Unless things have changed since the late 90s, in my experience, only 2 out of every 10 women were exactly what they claimed to be (age, profession, size, looks, etc.).

That 20% though.... eyes


You know, I have never understood this! Why front about something that could be so easily proven to be false if the two of you ever were to actually meet in person?? 19

Have you ever asked any one of those women what would make them do a thing like that? sck Confused


Hell no! A face-to-face meeting was considered the start to a more serious relationship for some. Usually the deceptive ones were prematurely clingy or possessive, so my first order of business was to make a clean, safe getaway!
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Wow...

Like Wiz, I never had any luck with internet dating. I usually wouldn't get responses when I e-mailed a woman I was interested in. And I got plenty of e-mails from women I wasn't interested in (who were usually waaayyy outside of my listed parameters on age, children, etc.). Obviously, whatever it is about me that women offline like, it doesn't translate well on the internet dating sites.

My experience, though, is that a lot of women who should have checked off "a few extra pounds" or "large" would check off "curvy" or "average" instead. I wanted to reach through the internet wires and grab them and say, "look, @$#%@, who the hell is a few extra pounds if YOU'RE AVERAGE!!"

So basically I see it as a bunch of phonies on the one hand, and unrealistic super-picky people who will NEVER be happy on the other.
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Originally posted by Vox:
Wow...

Like Wiz, I never had any luck with internet dating. I usually wouldn't get responses when I e-mailed a woman I was interested in. And I got plenty of e-mails from women I wasn't interested in (who were usually waaayyy outside of my listed parameters on age, children, etc.). Obviously, whatever it is about me that women offline like, it doesn't translate well on the internet dating sites.

My experience, though, is that a lot of women who should have checked off "a few extra pounds" or "large" would check off "curvy" or "average" instead. I wanted to reach through the internet wires and grab them and say, "look, @$#%@, who the hell is a few extra pounds if YOU'RE AVERAGE!!"

So basically I see it as a bunch of phonies on the one hand, and unrealistic super-picky people who will NEVER be happy on the other.


My strategy was only to communicate with those who I was COMPLETELY blown away with from their photo and profile. That's because I knew it could only go downhill from there. 16
I think you can make connections with people, but not doing it on a dating site makes it a bit more organic, which is what I favor.

Well maybe if I lied on my profile, I would get more hits, but I do not want to go through that, I would rather the surprises be pleasant ones. So I just let the whole internet dating thing go.
Well, I've never tried one of the online dating services ... or even the dating message boards that they used to (still do?) have where you post or look at a profile and try to connect with a person that way.

I think everybody I've ever met from online started from getting to know them 'real time' in a chat room or message board ... then through IM's and eventually exchanging phone numbers. I've met a lot of good people through chatting (although it's been a while).

But, generally, most of the guys that I didn't end up pursuing anything with were the ones that had too high or unreaslistic expectations of what was supposed to happen next .. and when. sck
Well - everybody already knows my track record. I've always looked at online dating as just another resource just like any other form of social interaction. But the stigma comes from people thinking you must be a desperate loser to use the internet to get a date, which is complete and total bullshit. I'll be lucky if I see a pretty face once a week let alone have the opportunity to actually interact with a well-rounded, attractive woman.

In my experience online women are no bigger liars, cheaters or more desperate than offline women you meet in a traditional way. None of the women I've met online were 'fat' or 'ugly'. In fact many of them looked even better in person than in their profiles. I've met extremely beautiful women from online as well as traditionally and I'm simply in the process of selecting a woman that would be best suited to being my soulmate.

The trick to online dating is being able to see through the lies and deception in the message they put on their profiles. These women that keep talking about "I just need a good man" and "I don't play games" and all that other garbage are the ones to avoid I don't give a damn how fine they look. And the ones that can't stop talking about all their crazy ass ex-boyfriends while simultaneously trying make themselves out to be perfectly innocent princesses and queens are ones to avoid too. Last but certainly not least is to avoid these people that feel like they have to write their whole life story on a profile. They're crazy and self absorbed.

The best way to keep phony, crazy ass people off of your back is to shoot straight from the hip with your romantic value and interests and leave it at that. I've found that when I simply talk straight forward it intimidates women that are full of shit while it makes women that are "real" chase after me.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Well - everybody already knows my track record. I've always looked at online dating as just another resource just like any other form of social interaction. But the stigma comes from people thinking you must be a desperate loser to use the internet to get a date, which is complete and total bullshit. I'll be lucky if I see a pretty face once a week let alone have the opportunity to actually interact with a well-rounded, attractive woman.

{SNIP}


This is so true. It's the main reason I relied on internet dating when I lived in Cali. Where I lived and worked in Orange County, Blacks in total were less than 2% of the population. Now pare that 2% down to eligible men and the problem is clear.

I've been "online" one way other another since the late 80s, so I've never felt any stigma in saying I met someone on the computer.

And the ability to "filter" is very valuable. 1
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Originally posted by ATPWordPro:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Well - everybody already knows my track record. I've always looked at online dating as just another resource just like any other form of social interaction. But the stigma comes from people thinking you must be a desperate loser to use the internet to get a date, which is complete and total bullshit. I'll be lucky if I see a pretty face once a week let alone have the opportunity to actually interact with a well-rounded, attractive woman.

{SNIP}


This is so true. It's the main reason I relied on internet dating when I lived in Cali. Where I lived and worked in Orange County, Blacks in total were less than 2% of the population. Now pare that 2% down to eligible men and the problem is clear.

I've been "online" one way other another since the late 80s, so I've never felt any stigma in saying I met someone on the computer.

And the ability to "filter" is very valuable. 1


It is extremely hard after having filtered out the less equally yoked people. I almost considered trying out "It's Just Lunch" but they want $2500. It ain't THAT deep.
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Originally posted by Khalliqa:
Jesus... Is this where people really are?

a lot people having trouble finding a mate while working in environments distanced from meaningful human interaction thereby pressed by nature to wade through strangers hopeful of finding stable, safe and fulfilling companionship..

American social constructs... sck

yeah Unfortunately, that's where we are...

As a general comment. I use the internet as a tool for attaining and disseminating information. I always looked at it as a super-cool resource center; and message boards as a neat way to participate in 'group study'. The exchanging of ideas, perspectives, and information on a range of subjects with several people nationally and internationally; rather than just individual and local study, has been highly rewarding.

I have developed a crush or two on poster(s) because of the intellect and personality they display(ed) online, but it has never progressed past a crush as of yet. I have also made a few friends because of shared interests, and several political/cultural connections.

I have never dated anyone, but can see how it is a good route, and because of the lack of social interaction caused by Amerikkka's rat race, I can definitely see it as a necessary substitute for many. I think it is extremely sad that it is a necessary substitute for face to face social interaction though.

I must admit my view is very limited on this subject, I have never even been to an online dating service, and I've really never done anything but frequent message boards(for information and informing conversation) and look up information online. I've never even been to 'chat rooms'.

AA.org is probably the most 'open' I have been online. It's the first board out of the 5(2 no longer available) that I have been on that I actually went into and posted in the dating/personal life categories... and it took me a long time to do that here. In the past, I usually avoided that subject matter like it was the plague.
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Originally posted by urbansun

Internet dating is a new phenomenon that I don't really get.


Actually, internet dating is quite old. Even before there were actual dating websites people were hooking up through chatrooms. I was one of them and I had a hell of a time.

Over the years I've met people I would have never run into just walking down the street or traveling my usual social circles. I've had women visit me from as far away as the Netherlands, Germany, England, and Japan as well as Kenya, Zimbabweh, Nigeria, Tanzania, Sudan and Ethiopia. Of course, by the way, y'all know I don't give a damn what you think because the only one responsible for my happiness, safety, and well-being is me.

If I could do it all over again I wouldn't change a damn thing. Dating women from around the world has made me wise to the ways of women in ways I couldn't have possibly reached from dwelling around in my immediate viscinity as well as having gained a perspective of various cultures that could not be gained through traditional research.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
I've had women visit me from as far away as the Netherlands, Germany, England, and Japan as well as Kenya, Zimbabweh, Nigeria, Tanzania, Sudan and Ethiopia. Of course, by the way, y'all know I don't give a damn what you think because the only one responsible for my happiness, safety, and well-being is me.


I gotta say it... I know I shouldn't... I know I'll regret it... but I can't resist.

Concerning the women you ment online who visited you from as far away as Kenya, Zimbabwe(no h), Nigeria, Tanzania, and Uganda... Did they have issues getting their visa? It is expensive... and even if their families could afford it they often get denied... just because they run into a moody person at the consulate/embassy. It's very odd that all of them(or their families) are rich enough to have either home PC's or the extra money to converse with you at the internet cafe's in their home countries. Did you have to write letters of recomendation as a future sponsor to the respective consulates/emabssies for all of them to get their visa's to visit you/here? What kind of Visa did they apply for; student, temporary worker, ect? Did you promise them marrieage, if not, why would they make such an effort 'just to visit'? I'm not even going to get into the cost of the plane ticket and how that was 'funded'.

Interestingly enough, all of the countries you mentioned have LARGE immigrant populations already established in Amerikkka...

So it seems that you are making this up to brag on your dick. You met women FROM these places online perhaps... But they didn't visit you DIRECTLY from these countries as you stated. Cut the ish...

I know you don't give a damn what we think... But keeping your phallocentric stories realistic would be nice. Since you are an aspiring author, in the future, you may want to do further research when producing your fiction.
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
I've had women visit me from as far away as the Netherlands, Germany, England, and Japan as well as Kenya, Zimbabweh, Nigeria, Tanzania, Sudan and Ethiopia. Of course, by the way, y'all know I don't give a damn what you think because the only one responsible for my happiness, safety, and well-being is me.


I gotta say it... I know I shouldn't... I know I'll regret it... but I can't resist.

Concerning the women you ment online who visited you from as far away as Kenya, Zimbabwe(no h), Nigeria, Tanzania, and Uganda... Did they have issues getting their visa? It is expensive... and even if their families could afford it they often get denied... just because they run into a moody person at the consulate/embassy. It's very odd that all of them(or their families) are rich enough to have either home PC's or the extra money to converse with you at the internet cafe's in their home countries. Did you have to write letters of recomendation as a future sponsor to the respective consulates/emabssies for all of them to get their visa's to visit you/here? What kind of Visa did they apply for; student, temporary worker, ect? Did you promise them marrieage, if not, why would they make such an effort 'just to visit'? I'm not even going to get into the cost of the plane ticket and how that was 'funded'.

Interestingly enough, all of the countries you mentioned have LARGE immigrant populations already established in Amerikkka...

So it seems that you are making this up to brag on your dick. You met women FROM these places online perhaps... But they didn't visit you DIRECTLY from these countries as you stated. Cut the ish...

I know you don't give a damn what we think... But keeping your phallocentric stories realistic would be nice. Since you are an aspiring author, in the future, you may want to do further research when producing your fiction.


Oh, cut it out Oshun! You're such a doubter! Shame on you nono

But Romulus, when I was in Ghana this summer, I promised a young brother, I'd look into trying to get him here on a work visa for the summer. He did great work weaving custom kente designs for us, and I wanted to help him out. But everything I've seen makes it virtually impossible to get him here. So what would you suggest as far as steps I can take? What did you do to bring these women over here, and how can I use that experience to help this brother?
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
I've had women visit me from as far away as the Netherlands, Germany, England, and Japan as well as Kenya, Zimbabweh, Nigeria, Tanzania, Sudan and Ethiopia. Of course, by the way, y'all know I don't give a damn what you think because the only one responsible for my happiness, safety, and well-being is me.


I gotta say it... I know I shouldn't... I know I'll regret it... but I can't resist.

Concerning the women you ment online who visited you from as far away as Kenya, Zimbabwe(no h), Nigeria, Tanzania, and Uganda... Did they have issues getting their visa? It is expensive... and even if their families could afford it they often get denied... just because they run into a moody person at the consulate/embassy. It's very odd that all of them(or their families) are rich enough to have either home PC's or the extra money to converse with you at the internet cafe's in their home countries. Did you have to write letters of recomendation as a future sponsor to the respective consulates/emabssies for all of them to get their visa's to visit you/here? What kind of Visa did they apply for; student, temporary worker, ect? Did you promise them marrieage, if not, why would they make such an effort 'just to visit'? I'm not even going to get into the cost of the plane ticket and how that was 'funded'.

Interestingly enough, all of the countries you mentioned have LARGE immigrant populations already established in Amerikkka...

So it seems that you are making this up to brag on your dick. You met women FROM these places online perhaps... But they didn't visit you DIRECTLY from these countries as you stated. Cut the ish...

I know you don't give a damn what we think... But keeping your phallocentric stories realistic would be nice. Since you are an aspiring author, in the future, you may want to do further research when producing your fiction.


You're right. I don't give a damn what any of you think. Nevertheless, if you took 30 seconds to look beyond your nose you would understand that many foreigners that come to The United States of America already have student visas and use the internet to establish friendships with people here before they arrive. You don't have to believe shit I say, in fact you didn't even have to respond to my post if I speak such lies but you and your ilk can't resist continuously harrassing and insulting as if your harrassment and insults are going to make me disappear or send me to my knees crying and make me run away from AfricanAmerica.org.

It's not like there's a lottery of women just lined up and waiting at some international airport for me to snag them up like 101 Dalmation puppies - the second they are made aware of my existance they march to their embassy and sign up for a visa and wait on pins and needles to be accepted. Many of these women are already in possession of a visa or may have been in waiting for months and finally recieved their visas. Many of these women either seek out socially savvy people like me through browsing the internet or I may come across them through browsing myself. And please stop patronizing me and insulting my intelligence with your snide, arrogant, obnoxious inquiries as if you're the voice of reason and gatekeeper of success and failure on planet Earth.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
You're right. I don't give a damn what any of you think.


Yet, you make up stories for us...

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Nevertheless, if you took 30 seconds to look beyond your nose you would understand that many foreigners that come to The United States of America already have student visas and use the internet to establish friendships with people here before they arrive.


In other words, they didn't come here to visit you. Thanks for clearing up that lie up.

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You don't have to believe shit I say, in fact you didn't even have to respond to my post if I speak such lies but you and your ilk can't resist continuously harrassing and insulting as if your harrassment and insults are going to make me disappear or send me to my knees crying and make me run away from AfricanAmerica.org.


I barely interact with you RB, You aren't important enough for 'my ilk' to even attempt to run you off. Please stay, you rarely divert threads of real importance; you are simply an occasional comedic distraction at this point.

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It's not like there's a lottery of women just lined up and waiting at some international airport for me to snag them up like 101 Dalmation puppies - the second they are made aware of my existance they march to their embassy and sign up for a visa and wait on pins and needles to be accepted. Many of these women are already in possession of a visa or may have been in waiting for months and finally recieved their visas. Many of these women either seek out socially savvy people like me through browsing the internet or I may come across them through browsing myself.


...and many are looking for papers.

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And please stop patronizing me and insulting my intelligence with your snide, arrogant, obnoxious inquiries as if you're the voice of reason and gatekeeper of success and failure on planet Earth.


You insulted our intelligence with your original(now revised) assertion. My mother is an immigrant, and I have many close immigrant friends, so when you said... and I quote...

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I've had women visit me from as far away as the Netherlands, Germany, England, and Japan as well as Kenya, Zimbabweh, Nigeria, Tanzania, Sudan and Ethiopia.


I knew you were full of it. I call it how I see it. That's what happens on a public message board. Get used to it.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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I gotta say it... I know I shouldn't... I know I'll regret it... but I can't resist.


Of course you can't resist. None of you can resist turning every thread you see me post a comment in into a damn flame war. You can't see past your own ignorance and you expect others to do the same otherwise they're subjected to ridicule and insults.


sleep sleep sleep
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
[QUOTE]And please stop patronizing me and insulting my intelligence with your snide, arrogant, obnoxious inquiries as if you're the voice of reason and gatekeeper of success and failure on planet Earth.


You insulted our intelligence with your original(now revised) assertion. My mother is an immigrant, and I have many close immigrant friends, ...
I knew you were full of it. I call it how I see it. That's what happens on a public message board. Get used to it.


Y-y-you mean, I won't get the answer from Romulus, to help the Ghanaian young guy, that I so earnestly seek? It was all a lie? Say it ain't so! Frown
Been there done that got the luggage, Have had emotional attachments to some I have met online, However, for mor reasons at this point that i care to mention am a little gunshy about even flirting anymore. (yep love to flirt) but found that it gets me in trouble. (caught between two cultures) Yoruba and this thing called Americanism, (make any sense to you?
Ire
Ifaleye
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by ATPWordPro:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Well - everybody already knows my track record. I've always looked at online dating as just another resource just like any other form of social interaction. But the stigma comes from people thinking you must be a desperate loser to use the internet to get a date, which is complete and total bullshit. I'll be lucky if I see a pretty face once a week let alone have the opportunity to actually interact with a well-rounded, attractive woman.

{SNIP}


This is so true. It's the main reason I relied on internet dating when I lived in Cali. Where I lived and worked in Orange County, Blacks in total were less than 2% of the population. Now pare that 2% down to eligible men and the problem is clear.

I've been "online" one way other another since the late 80s, so I've never felt any stigma in saying I met someone on the computer.

And the ability to "filter" is very valuable. 1


It is extremely hard after having filtered out the less equally yoked people. I almost considered trying out "It's Just Lunch" but they want $2500. It ain't THAT deep.


Hey RB:

Check out this article. 1
Body Odor Called Key Romantic Attraction--DNA Dating Service Comes To Boston

I wonder . . . if our noses are part of they key, how is the entire process affected by all the artificial BS chemicals folks pour over themselves. 19
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Originally posted by ATPWordPro:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by ATPWordPro:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Well - everybody already knows my track record. I've always looked at online dating as just another resource just like any other form of social interaction. But the stigma comes from people thinking you must be a desperate loser to use the internet to get a date, which is complete and total bullshit. I'll be lucky if I see a pretty face once a week let alone have the opportunity to actually interact with a well-rounded, attractive woman.

{SNIP}


This is so true. It's the main reason I relied on internet dating when I lived in Cali. Where I lived and worked in Orange County, Blacks in total were less than 2% of the population. Now pare that 2% down to eligible men and the problem is clear.

I've been "online" one way other another since the late 80s, so I've never felt any stigma in saying I met someone on the computer.

And the ability to "filter" is very valuable. 1


It is extremely hard after having filtered out the less equally yoked people. I almost considered trying out "It's Just Lunch" but they want $2500. It ain't THAT deep.


Hey RB:

Check out this article. 1
Body Odor Called Key Romantic Attraction--DNA Dating Service Comes To Boston

I wonder . . . if our noses are part of they key, how is the entire process affected by all the artificial BS chemicals folks pour over themselves. 19


Yeah I know about the pheromone experiment. In fact, I performed the experiment myself on a my girlfriend at the time. But for those that don't know about the pheromone experiment, and to make a long story short, 5 women were selected to smell the t-shirts 5 men had previously worn. The women were paired off with the men who's scent most appealed to them. As it turned out the women were deeply attracted to the men after having gotten to know them.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
But for those that don't know about the pheromone experiment, and to make a long story short, 5 women were selected to smell the t-shirts 5 men had previously worn. The women were paired off with the men who's scent most appealed to them. As it turned out the women were deeply attracted to the men after having gotten to know them.



Ewwwwwww!! sad That is just naaasssttyy!! td6
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
But for those that don't know about the pheromone experiment, and to make a long story short, 5 women were selected to smell the t-shirts 5 men had previously worn. The women were paired off with the men who's scent most appealed to them. As it turned out the women were deeply attracted to the men after having gotten to know them.


Ewwwwwww!! sad That is just naaasssttyy!! td6

Why? Just because clothing has a "worn" smell doesn't necessarily means it stinks.

Just like when someone is perfumed/cologned, it doesn't necessarily mean they smell good.
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Originally posted by ATPWordPro:
Why? Just because clothing has a "worn" smell doesn't necessarily means it stinks.

Just like when someone is perfumed/cologned, it doesn't necessarily mean they smell good.


Because sticking your nose all into the clothing of somebody you don't even know to inhale their "body odor" to see if it's appealing to you just doesn't sound right to me! Eek

Thanks but no thanks! Smile
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
But for those that don't know about the pheromone experiment, and to make a long story short, 5 women were selected to smell the t-shirts 5 men had previously worn. The women were paired off with the men who's scent most appealed to them. As it turned out the women were deeply attracted to the men after having gotten to know them.



Ewwwwwww!! sad That is just naaasssttyy!! td6


That depends on how well I know you. lol

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