I have no idea why it is believed that Feminism has anything to do with being anti-male as this cartoon depicts.  Read the history of women, even in America and you will see what brought about Feminism.  Is it because women stopped calling it the Women Suffragist Movement?  Feminism was/is about women having equal rights the same way that the Civil Rights Movement was about EVERYONE having equal rights.  Feminism was/is a demand that women get equal pay for equal work, are not sexually harassed in the workplace, are not blocked out of certain professions, have a right to equal education and a voice in the political theater.  It was/is also about women not being physically and sexually abused by men and nothing be done about it; it was/is about women having the right to live their lives the way the choose to live them and having rights over their own bodies when it comes to birth control and reproduction.  Contrary to what this sexist cartoon is trying to convey, beyond abusive relationships Feminism really has nothing or very little to do will romantic/intimate relationships between men and women.

Lawd hammercy!!!    I don't know WHAT I think this is trying to say!! 

 

I'm not even close to being a feminist ... but, I'm sure if I was, this would probably piss me off pretty bad!!    And it must've been a man that drew it ... depicting the male with the "Black Power" title .... when it's common knowledge that the Black woman is the ultimate source of all power (Black or otherwise!)

 

I think I kinda understand what the artist was trying to say .... but, I think s/he said it all the wrong way!!  It seems offensive to BOTH men and women, if you ask me!!  And therefore ... I can't really find it amusing. 

 

But that's just my .02 cents.

Originally Posted by sunnubian:

       
I have no idea why it is believed that Feminism has anything to do with being anti-male as this cartoon depicts.  Read the history of women, even in America and you will see what brought about Feminism.  Is it because women stopped calling it the Women Suffragist Movement?  Feminism was/is about women having equal rights the same way that the Civil Rights Movement was about EVERYONE having equal rights.  Feminism was/is a demand that women get equal pay for equal work, are not sexually harassed in the workplace, are not blocked out of certain professions, have a right to equal education and a voice in the political theater.  It was/is also about women not being physically and sexually abused by men and nothing be done about it; it was/is about women having the right to live their lives the way the choose to live them and having rights over their own bodies when it comes to birth control and reproduction.  Contrary to what this sexist cartoon is trying to convey, beyond abusive relationships Feminism really has nothing or very little to do will romantic/intimate relationships between men and women.

       



history?  the early Feminist were devoted to destroying the Black Race (Margaret Sanger,,,Planned Parenthood, which stil is active in 2013), http://www.wakeus.com/?p=1886

The term "Black Feminism" is a contradiction...Like Black Conservative or a Jewish Nazi,  The cartoon was 100% accurate, esp. the Blonded Black woman attack dog with a white hand holding the leash. 

question: Name one good thing that the Black Feminism movement has done for Black women or the Black community...i'll wait
Originally Posted by EbonyRose:

       

Lawd hammercy!!!    I don't know WHAT I think this is trying to say!! 

 

I'm not even close to being a feminist ... but, I'm sure if I was, this would probably piss me off pretty bad!!    And it must've been a man that drew it ... depicting the male with the "Black Power" title .... when it's common knowledge that the Black woman is the ultimate source of all power (Black or otherwise!)

 

I think I kinda understand what the artist was trying to say .... but, I think s/he said it all the wrong way!!  It seems offensive to BOTH men and women, if you ask me!!  And therefore ... I can't really find it amusing. 

 

But that's just my .02 cents.


       



Black Feminism was created to start an internal conflict in the Black Community and end the Civil Rights movement....since the end of the Civil Rights movement...name one victory that the Black feminist movement has achieved?
Originally Posted by RadioRaheem:
Originally Posted by EbonyRose:

       

Lawd hammercy!!!    I don't know WHAT I think this is trying to say!! 

 

I'm not even close to being a feminist ... but, I'm sure if I was, this would probably piss me off pretty bad!!    And it must've been a man that drew it ... depicting the male with the "Black Power" title .... when it's common knowledge that the Black woman is the ultimate source of all power (Black or otherwise!)

 

I think I kinda understand what the artist was trying to say .... but, I think s/he said it all the wrong way!!  It seems offensive to BOTH men and women, if you ask me!!  And therefore ... I can't really find it amusing. 

 

But that's just my .02 cents.


       



Black Feminism was created to start an internal conflict in the Black Community and end the Civil Rights movement....since the end of the Civil Rights movement...name one victory that the Black feminist movement has achieved?

 

What "Black Feminist Movement"?  There was The Civil Rights Movement, The Women's Rights Movement (Feminist Movement), The Peace Movement, and the Anti-War Movement, all culminating to where they were actually going on all at the same time at one point.  There was never any "Black Feminist Movement", it was/is that African American Women were/are a part of The Women's Rights Movement(Feminist Movement).  

 

The victories achieved by the Women's Rights Movement, that African American women were also a part of, can be seen all around you when you see women working in jobs in positions other than being school teachers, nurses and secretaries.  A lot has changed for women,which includes Black women, in the workforce, in education, in business, in all facets of women's lives, because of the Women's Rights Movement.  I'll put it this way, what is it that the women in your family or that you know personally do for a living, what kind of degrees do they hold, what types of businesses do they own, what positions do they hold on particular jobs.  Or, are all the women you know school teachers, nurses, maids, waitresses, secretaries or stay at home house wives?  With rare exception, that was about all you were going to see women doing before the Women's Rights Movement. And the only way that Women's rights and equality can cause an internal conflict between African American men and women, is when the man does not see a woman as his equal or believe that she has the same Constitutional and Legal rights as he does.

  I for ONE never heard of Black Feminist.  So I couldn't tell you what it is.  I have however heard of Women's rights-which is very different from what this carticture[sp]  above is conveying.  Black Power wasn't exculsive to Black men.  Don't get that twisted.  This concept was NOT invented by Black men.  I know folks need to REALLY read the history of Black Women and get back to me,  Like hummmm lemme see ah Shirely Chisolm, Hamner, Jordan, just to name a few.  We won't even talk about Angela Davis or Dorthy Height or Harriet Tubman or Sojourney Trurth.  Whenever there's a STRONG black woman on the scene....it for some strange reason convert to the castration of Black men....if I recall that was done already by both MASSA and the Arabs.......not!  Black women.  But!

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  I for ONE never heard of Black Feminist.  So I couldn't tell you what it is. 


Yep!!  I'm with you and Sunnubian on that one!!    I've never heard of a "Black Feminist Movement" either!! 

 

And I didn't even notice that homechick's hair was supposed to be "blonded"!!  Nor tha the hand on the leash was supposed to be White. 

 

If that's the case though .... then I have to say that that cartoon is even MORE ridiculous  than I had originally thought it was!!   

 

And ...... is it supposed to have been written by a White person??  'Cause that's the only thing that might possibly make it make any sense. 

White Feminist coined the phase, "Strong Black Woman"...this was later bastardized into "Strong, Independent Black Woman"....learn the history...hehe

http://www.mit.edu/activities/...v9/9.01/6blackf.html

Toward a Black Feminist Movement

Faced with the sexism of black men and the racism of white
women, black women in their respective movements had two choices: they
could remain in the movements and try to educate non-black or
non-female comrades about their needs, or they could form a movement
of their own. The first alternative, though noble in its intent, was
not a viable option. While it is true that black men needed to be
educated about the effects of sexism and white women about the effects
of racism on black women's lives, it was not solely the responsibility
of black women to educate them. Noted Audre Lorde:

Women of today are still being called upon to stretch across the gap
of male ignorance and to educate men as to our existence and our
needs. This is an old and primary tool of all oppressors to keep the
oppressed occupied with the master's concerns. Now we hear it is the
task of women of Color to educate white women-in the face of
tremendous resistance-as to our existence, our differences, our
relative roles in our joint survival. This is a diversion of energies
and a tragic repetition of racist patriarchal thought.  In light of
these facts, the women decided to forge their own movement, the Black
Feminist Movement.

Building a Black Feminist Movement was not an easy task.
Despite the need for such a movement, there were few black women in
the early 1970s who were willing to identify themselves as feminists.
Barbara Smith articulates the reservations of many black women about a
black feminist movement:

Myths to divert Black women from our own freedom:
1. The Black woman is already liberated.
2. Racism is the primary (or only) oppression Black women have to confront.
3. Feminism is nothing but man-hating.
4. Women's issues are narrow, apolitical concerns. People of color need to deal with the "larger struggle."
5. Those feminists are nothing but Lesbians.

These myths illustrate long-held misconceptions about black women,
including the belief that the extraordinary strength black women have
shown in the face of tremendous oppression reveals their liberation.
In fact, this "freedom"-working outside the home, supporting the
family economically as well as emotionally, and heading the
household-has been thrust upon black women. Women of all races,
classes, nationalities, religions, and ethnicities are sexually
oppressed; black women are no exception. Upon further examination, the
other myths prove to be false. Racism and sexism must be confronted at
the same time; to wait for one to end before working on the other
reflects an incomplete understanding of the way racism and sexism, as
forms of oppression, work to perpetuate each other. Black feminism
struggles against institutionalized, systematic oppression rather than
against a certain group of people, be they white men or men of color.
While it often requires no stretch of the imagination to infer
man-hating in some early (and some recent) feminist writings, the goal
of feminism is the end of sexism. It is only a sane response of an
oppressed people to work toward their own liberation. Finally, the
assumption that feminists are nothing but lesbians reveals the
homophobia which persists in many black communities as well as a
misunderstanding of both lesbians and motivations for joining the
feminist movement.
Originally Posted by sunnubian:

       
Originally Posted by RadioRaheem:
Originally Posted by EbonyRose:

       
Lawd hammercy!!!    I don't know WHAT I think this is trying to say!! 

I'm not even close to being a feminist ... but, I'm sure if I was, this would probably piss me off pretty bad!!    And it must've been a man that drew it ... depicting the male with the "Black Power" title .... when it's common knowledge that the Black woman is the ultimate source of all power (Black or otherwise!)

I think I kinda understand what the artist was trying to say .... but, I think s/he said it all the wrong way!!  It seems offensive to BOTH men and women, if you ask me!!  And therefore ... I can't really find it amusing. 

But that's just my .02 cents.

      



Black Feminism was created to start an internal conflict in the Black Community and end the Civil Rights movement....since the end of the Civil Rights movement...name one victory that the Black feminist movement has achieved?

What "Black Feminist Movement"?  There was The Civil Rights Movement, The Women's Rights Movement (Feminist Movement), The Peace Movement, and the Anti-War Movement, all culminating to where they were actually going on all at the same time at one point.  There was never any "Black Feminist Movement", it was/is that African American Women were/are a part of The Women's Rights Movement(Feminist Movement). 

The victories achieved by the Women's Rights Movement, that African American women were also a part of, can be seen all around you when you see women working in jobs in positions other than being school teachers, nurses and secretaries.  A lot has changed for women,which includes Black women, in the workforce, in education, in business, in all facets of women's lives, because of the Women's Rights Movement.  I'll put it this way, what is it that the women in your family or that you know personally do for a living, what kind of degrees do they hold, what types of businesses do they own, what positions do they hold on particular jobs.  Or, are all the women you know school teachers, nurses, maids, waitresses, secretaries or stay at home house wives?  With rare exception, that was about all you were going to see women doing before the Women's Rights Movement. And the only way that Women's rights and equality can cause an internal conflict between African American men and women, is when the man does not see a woman as his equal or believe that she has the same Constitutional and Legal rights as he does.

       


the original Feminist were Eugenist, who wanted the Black race destroyed.  Black women, to this day, have more abortions that any other group.  Mental slavery continues to this day.  Why support oneself with a group that wants you dead? 

Black Feminism is an useless waste of energy that has produced no results.  This is why the White Feminist run to the aid of a white woman in trouble, but are silent when a Sister is in trouble....  Rush Limburg vs Sandra Fluke... in a related story, did the white feminist every come to the aid of the Rutgers Women's "Nappy headed hoes" basketball team vs. Imus??  not at all...why not?  I thought "all women were sisters"...heheh

Happy Easter

Your're mixing apples and oranges, different eras.  Margaret Sanger is who suggested and tried to promote that women should, [all women] have access to birth control was born about 40 years after the Women's Suffrage Movement.  Some people dispute as to whether or not she was really a racist out to eliminate the Black race, in my opinion, since she believed "Eugenics", I believe she was.  However, it was not only Black people, or Black women Sanger set her sites on, in fact, she initially was going after poor White women, but later in her crusade to rid the world of undesirables, she did focus her sites on Black women/Black people.  Margaret Sanger had something against anyone that was not wealthy having children, not to mention those deemed undesirable by society, at least certain segments of society like minorities, any minorities, poor White people and anyone that had any birth or mental defects.  And Planned Parenthood was established to primarily focus on slowing and/or eliminating the Black birthrate, however, it was also focused on slowing the overall American birthrate as well.  But, the myth started by right-wing politicians and religious groups, that African American women have more abortions than any other women, is just that, a myth.  White women have more abortions than any other race of women in America, always have and still do.  The overall decline in the Black populations in America is only partly contributed to birth control and/or abortion, with birth control being the greater reason.  Other things like male incarceration, police murders, and gang murders, contribute more to the decline in the Black birth rate than abortion.

 

However, since the Women's Rights Movement was also about women exerting rights over their own bodies and reproduction, it was also about women's right to have children and not feel compelled to have an abortion or adoption if the woman so choose.  In fact this is the very thing people leave out or don't know or choose to overlook about Black women and the Women's Rights Movement, where you had Black women asserting their reproductive rights, and their rights over their own bodies and sexuality, while at the same time, not believing in abortion or giving their babies up for adoption, which resulted in the high rate of out-of-wedlock births among Black/African American women.  White and other races of women were also exerting their rights over their bodies, sexuality and sex life, however, they were having abortions or giving out-of-wedlock children up for adoption.

 

I have my suspicions concerning those who may have infiltrated the Women's Rights Movement for ulterior motives as well.  However, I strongly suspect that the Women's Rights Movement may have been hijacked so that it could be diverted away from White women banning merging it into the Civil Rights Movement, i.e., half the population is Female + all the African Americans in America + all the other minorities in America = an end to White male dominance, control and bias.

Now on the flip side, where is the cartoon or meme depicting Black misogynists? Our folks act as if that doesn't exist. This was touched upon lightly in Dr. Johnson's chit-chat at the beginning when he talked about black women/girls being abused. We know that most people are abused by someone that they know... hhhmmmmm


Myths to divert Black women from our own freedom:
1. The Black woman is already liberated.
2. Racism is the primary (or only) oppression Black women have to confront.
3. Feminism is nothing but man-hating.
4. Women's issues are narrow, apolitical concerns. People of color need to deal with the "larger struggle."
5. Those feminists are nothing but Lesbians.

 

  You know my brain's kinda fried right now from all this studying but I have to tell you black women vs black feminist is a misnomer and a distraction.  I say this because during the suffrage in the 1900s Susan B. Anthony and others would have BEEN nothing without the silent power of Sojouner Truth and Harriet Tubman.  As a matter of fact, it was sheer arrogance of these women who thought that since slavery afforded their family to pull up from the devestating poverty they were in and allowed them to have a form of status....they discarded black support[as usual] once their rights were being recognized by massa.  Those same women depended on black women to care for their childrn while they were away making speeches about women's rights.  Included were black men like Frederick Douglass who supported their plight.  But as usual these so-called feminists were MERELY using blackfolks to get what they wanted.  And that was to be in an equal yolk with massa.  Once that was accomplished these backstabbing cunts turned their noses at the plight of black people desire to be have humans rights as citizens of the United States of America.  Those whores cared less.  And so to be that jacket on black women and to say that they were already freed because they had to work outside their homes to take care of their families...are an insult.  Cuz what in the fock was she supposed to do?  Let her family starved.  Pleaaaaaaaaaase.  That's not a sign of freedom. That's a sign of survival.  Geez. 

 

I don't have time to break it all down like I want to starting with racism and lesbianism.  My question is why do a woman has to be GAY if she disagrees with a man?  Half the time he is WRONG anyway....especially when it comes to KNOWING where she's coming from as a woman...that's first.   Cuz most times it is MAN who is all turned on about women being with women.  A real woman is NOT thinking about sex if she is head of the household....that's the second misnomer.  Focking is NOT on her consistently as it is with MEN.  No?  And thirdly, why do she have to man-hating, when if she is a mother of sons....why in the HELL would she hate something she carried for 9 months and gave birth to?  That's man thinking that.  Not a woman's.  And who is HE to judge and place a jacket on anyway.  Look at the mess he has made with his children as an absentee father.  He should talk!  That's four. 

 

 So all this bah bah is what it is...empty talk!  Has nothing...absolutely nothing to do with the real plight of black women and their children.  And the huge achievements they have made being a single mother.  Unlike white women who have a LOOOOOOOONG history of abandoning their children and placing the care of their children on other people, a lot of black women [the new generation of black women]did not start neglecting their children to epidemic proprotions until the onset of the crack-cocaine crisis in 80s and 90s.  Before that she was caring for hers and MASSA's children.  And managed to do both quite nicely.  Where there is a subliminal love massa's children have for black women[the old school ones].

 

So if I had more time as I say I would break it down and show how these negative statements about black women are distractions to what the REAL problem in our culture is.  Staggering amounts of  black men are on the down low cuz it's easier to be plucked in the behind than to be a man's man and embrace fatherhood.  Then wanna take our role as women-how you gon do that?  No matter how many surgeries/operation these men will have-NONE not one will make them closer to being a woman.   They are delusional about that.  Sorry guys won't work.  A woman especially a black woman is MORE than high heels and lipstick.  Just so you know. 

 

And then the miseducation of black men cuz many have spent the majority of their adult lives in PRISON or on DRUGS or in GANGS.  And that's the reality no one want to ADDRESS realitically.  Everyone want to point blame instead of finding solutions.  And it's much mucy easier to point the finger at black women and say they are cause for this and that [I don't any women who can get pregnant without sperm] without taking personal responsibility as men who didn't use a condom.  So.  When I engage in this type of discussion regarding black women's role in politics, community,  rearing children....etc......I always go.  Cuz folks really DON'T get it. They really don't.   But!     

Originally Posted by DennisKalita:

Here's the original context on that 'toon:

BLACK FEMINIST BLOG CARNIVAL CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS: Debunking the ‘Man-Hating’ Myth - See more at: http://acquandastanford.com/bl...sthash.aztIXmov.dpuf

http://acquandastanford.com/black-feminist-blog-carnival-call-for-submissions-debunking-the-man-hating-myth/#sthash.aztIXmov.dpbs

The man-woman side is ON but the rest, too easy to get paranoid, is half-way to Gary Lloyd. 

  She doesn't even look real.  Like a doll almost.  Besides all of that, what model in her RIGHT mind would pose for such an image.  I mean I know art is art....but!  This isn't art as much as wishing it was back in the slaves days  That's what I get from it.  I guess when you are starving model....anything goes,..even your dignity and integrity as a black person....have a price.  But! 

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  She doesn't even look real.  Like a doll almost.  Besides all of that, what model in her RIGHT mind would pose for such an image.  I mean I know art is art....but!  This isn't art as much as wishing it was back in the slaves days  That's what I get from it.  I guess when you are starving model....anything goes,..even your dignity and integrity as a black person....have a price.  But! 

It was a series there was a white one too. 

Black men are BROKEN too.  The pot sho can't call the kettle black in this instance.  Black people are BROKEN and is why Pharrell and other black artists can continue to diss black women on the side cuz they think by being with women with light/or white skin or straight hair for some reason it gives them VALUE and WORTH.  Only broken people behave like that.  And is another reason WHY we can get together cuz we BOTH need to be FIXED socially, emotionally,spiritually, soulfully, AND most importantly historically.  We have a legacy of mistreating our own  Ah...we NEED to stop this.  We NEED to stop this.  we need to stop this.  NOW! But!

Yeah, it just kills me how certain people jump waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over all the flaws of Black males to condemn, ridicule and hate everything about Black women.  

 

I guess when attempts to destroy a people by brainwashing and socially conditioning them to hate themselves is not working fast enough, you can always use the subliminal [and overt] suggestion propaganda to get them to hate each other; psychological genocide works just as well as any other form.  

Hmm, it looks like another exciting week of Bash All Black Women.

 

I have no idea in what context this cartoon is about. The only thing I can do is comment on the harmful, stereotypical imagery.

 

1. When did the Black Power Movement become Black Males Power Movement? I thought the Black Power Movement was for all blacks, man and woman alike. Did I miss something?

 

2. If you are a white woman who stands up for herself, you are assertive. If you are a black woman who stands up for yourself, you are obviously an angry, black male-hating b!tch. 

 

3. Besides male-hating, all black women obviously want to de-emasculate black men by ripping off their you-know-whats with our sharp, dog-like teeth (mouth).

 

4. All black women (who do not have natural blonde hair) like to dye their hair blonde because they wish their hair was blonde. Change that. We wish we were white. 

 

5. Black women don't like their natural black features (assets).

 

6. Black women are dogs being held on a leash. And who is holding the leash? Why, it's massa! Clearly, black women have become massa's attack dogs or massa's weapon against black men. This is the most dangerous and harmful message of this cartoon.

 

7. Black feminism = Black male-hating, angry black women

 

Again, I don't know what context this cartoon was posted. Without it, I can only comment on what I see.

 

Personally, I believe every black woman should be angry. We should be angry about these constant character assassinations and negative stereotypes. All black women are being tarnished with the same brush. I am not so naive to not believe that there aren't any black women who have a serious problem with black men in general but for every black woman who does, I believe her anger is justified, either partially or in full.

 

Here is an example. White women divorce husbands who refuse to look for and get a job. They dump boyfriends who lie around the house and do nothing while they work eight or more hours a day. White feminism. A black woman who refuses to accept and tolerate a lazy man is considered man-hating (black feminism?). Why? The underlying message that is being sent is that white women deserve to be treated like queens while black women deserve to be treated like crap (and we better not complain!).

 

During slavery, Black women were raped by the slave masters and/or the overseers and forced to bear the children who were the results of these violent acts. Black men could not defend black women from the white male's predatory acts back then for obvious reasons. Rape is about control. Now, black women are being psychologically raped repeatedly and on a broad scale. I am asking my black brothers out there: Why aren't you defending us? Where is your outrage? Do you not believe we are worth defending, protecting? 

 

And now for some reading material...

 

The Angry Black Woman (Truth or Myth)

 

An Upside to the 'Angry Black Woman' Stereotype?

 

Sister Citizen: Shame, Stereotypes, and Black Women in America by Melissa V. Harris-Perry (You can purchase it now! &nbsp

 

Oh. Heck. It's time to resurrect the Willie Lynch Letter. Again. 

Originally Posted by DennisKalita:

Here's the original context on that 'toon:

BLACK FEMINIST BLOG CARNIVAL CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS: Debunking the ‘Man-Hating’ Myth - See more at: http://acquandastanford.com/bl...sthash.aztIXmov.dpuf

http://acquandastanford.com/black-feminist-blog-carnival-call-for-submissions-debunking-the-man-hating-myth/#sthash.aztIXmov.dpbs

 

Thanks for placing the cartoon in its proper context. It makes more sense now. I see that the caption below it states, 'Complete MISrepresentation of Black Feminism.'

Sista Earth and Sky wrote:  

 

Personally, I believe every black woman should be angry. We should be angry about these constant character assassinations and negative stereotypes. All black women are being tarnished with the same brush. I am not so naive to not believe that there aren't any black women who have a serious problem with black men in general but for every black woman who does, I believe her anger is justified, either partially or in full.

 

Here is an example. White women divorce husbands who refuse to look for and get a job. They dump boyfriends who lie around the house and do nothing while they work eight or more hours a day. White feminism. A black woman who refuses to accept and tolerate a lazy man is considered man-hating (black feminism?). Why? The underlying message that is being sent is that white women deserve to be treated like queens while black women deserve to be treated like crap (and we better not complain!).

 

During slavery, Black women were raped by the slave masters and/or the overseers and forced to bear the children who were the results of these violent acts. Black men could not defend black women from the white male's predatory acts back then for obvious reasons. Rape is about control. Now, black women are being psychologically raped repeatedly and on a broad scale. I am asking my black brothers out there: Why aren't you defending us? Where is your outrage? Do you not believe we are worth defending, protecting? 

 

And now for some reading material...

 

The Angry Black Woman (Truth or Myth)

 

An Upside to the 'Angry Black Woman' Stereotype?

 

Sister Citizen: Shame, Stereotypes, and Black Women in America by Melissa V. Harris-Perry (You can purchase it now! &nbsp

 

Oh. Heck. It's time to resurrect the Willie Lynch Letter. Again. 

 

Bravo!  Bravo!   I absolutely agree 100% in EVERYTHING...I mean EVERYTHING you've said in your commentary!   And you are very observant cuz I didn't even recognize that massa/ms. ann is holding onto the leash of the "angry black woman" depicted in the cartoon.  Good eyes my sista....good eyes!  But! 

Ask Mumia what?

 

Mumia being an accomplished journalist andpolitical prisoner.... his politics being maybe contrary to the power elite of the time, contributed nothing to the stated mission of law enforcement.

 

His continued incarceration only serves as proof that the black 'power' movement is yet anything but 'defeated'. Or, why due the the gross lack of substantive evidence attributable to his unique case (by the power elite of today,)  would he not have long ago been released....unless someone is worried about his voice.

 

So, ask Mumia what?

 

The white power elite, routinely release or grant amnesties to their own political criminals/murderers/perverts every day and most times even with irrefutable evidences.

 

So, who's politics is twisted? As to feminism, it is but another ordinance in their arsenal. Speak to that and how this chess game is being played.     

Originally Posted by roarin1:

Ask Mumia what?

 

Mumia being an accomplished journalist andpolitical prisoner.... his politics being maybe contrary to the power elite of the time, contributed nothing to the stated mission of law enforcement.

 

His continued incarceration only serves as proof that the black 'power' movement is yet anything but 'defeated'. Or, why due the the gross lack of substantive evidence attributable to his unique case (by the power elite of today,)  would he not have long ago been released....unless someone is worried about his voice.

 

So, ask Mumia what?

 

The white power elite, routinely release or grant amnesties to their own political criminals/murderers/perverts every day and most times even with irrefutable evidences.

 

So, who's politics is twisted? As to feminism, it is but another ordinance in their arsenal. Speak to that and how this chess game is being played.     

roarin indeed..

 

but you may want to do some reading inbetween your roars.  The question asked is, basically: did feminism kill the black power movement?   Now, read my answer again.. and everything should become clear..  or not.

 

- peace.

 

 

Originally Posted by skuderjaymes:
Originally Posted by roarin1:

Ask Mumia what?

 

Mumia being an accomplished journalist andpolitical prisoner.... his politics being maybe contrary to the power elite of the time, contributed nothing to the stated mission of law enforcement.

 

His continued incarceration only serves as proof that the black 'power' movement is yet anything but 'defeated'. Or, why due the the gross lack of substantive evidence attributable to his unique case (by the power elite of today,)  would he not have long ago been released....unless someone is worried about his voice.

 

So, ask Mumia what?

 

The white power elite, routinely release or grant amnesties to their own political criminals/murderers/perverts every day and most times even with irrefutable evidences.

 

 

All good points RE: Bruh Mumia. Related note, almost 10 years back, I remember civil rights leaders of our day groveling in a prison parking lot at San Quentin imploring actor,  Nazi son, Governator Arnold Schwarzenegger to stay execution and  grant a life sentence to Stanley Tookie Williams. The Nazi stated Tookie’s written praise of George Jackson’s politics in some book as a key determining factor in his decision to kill him!

Originally Posted by roarin1:

Ask Mumia what?

 

Mumia being an accomplished journalist andpolitical prisoner.... his politics being maybe contrary to the power elite of the time, contributed nothing to the stated mission of law enforcement.

 

His continued incarceration only serves as proof that the black 'power' movement is yet anything but 'defeated'. Or, why due the the gross lack of substantive evidence attributable to his unique case (by the power elite of today,)  would he not have long ago been released....unless someone is worried about his voice.

 

So, ask Mumia what?

 

The white power elite, routinely release or grant amnesties to their own political criminals/murderers/perverts every day and most times even with irrefutable evidences.

 

So, who's politics is twisted? As to feminism, it is but another ordinance in their arsenal. Speak to that and how this chess game is being played.     

Being the sole King of context I'm sure Skuder, that you can appreciate the 'melodic orchestra of orderly things' so, maybe I should try my question in a different manner.

 

As you can see above, I spoke to feminism and I spoke to Mumia. Now in as 'orderly' a fashion as structure will allow, I ask again because my question remains....'Ask Mumia what'?

 

It is impressive being pointed to the necessities of context, but I'll tell ya, it is truly wonderful to know that the mind readers are yet viable!

 

lol  

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

Brotha Skuderjaymes wrote:  Feminism can be blamed for many things, but breaking up the black power movement is not one of them.

 

  Excuse me  WHITE feminism can be BLAMED..there is a distinction.  Just wanna keep it real.  But!

 

not in this context there isn't. 

Originally Posted by RadioRaheem:

 

"Hiding from the truth
He provided an excuse

to explain away his desperate situation


When confronted, blamed his wife
Giving birth to carnal life
Refusing to acknowledge what he done
"

 

-from Adam Lives In Theory by Lauryn Hill.

 

 

blaming the woman goes way way back.  Blaming the black woman for these kinds of things is like a sprinter having lost a race then putting the blame for the loss on his right leg. 

 

And with regard to the Black Power Movement.. let's not become so revisionist that we forget what really happened:

 

Brotha Skuderjaymes wrote: not in this context there isn't

 

  Oh yeah it is.  Trust and believe.  Angela Davis was a bold "so-called" feminist but she and her girls...most of them came from a literary standpoint and used the pen of intellect to beat the hell outta massa.  They didn't have a thang to do with the dismantlement of black power-those kneegrows i.e. Black Panther Party, US organization and other male-ruled oppositions to white power did that SHYTE on their OWN.    I never saw or heard about Audra Lorde, Nikki Giovanni, Alice Walker, or other so-called black feminists at the time surrounded by the po po while trapped in a hotel or apartment or house with guns and hostages.     Although Davis was blamed for purchasing guns to a young man who ultimately killed a judge and jurors during an attempted kidnapping.  And SLA held Patty Hearst known as Tanya back then which eventually led to the deaths of the men holding her and the burning down of the house they held her in.  But again...those were BLACK MEN doing all that arming themselves with guns and taking hostages.  Not black feminists.  And there right there...  lies [again] the distinction between black feminists and white feminist.  So the question is where in all that political chaotic content  did black women participate in the activity in which you suggest destroyed black power?  Just asking.  But!     .   

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