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This is why I don't support my discussions with evidence of my source up front..


elasti-girl, elasti-girl, elasti-girl....

I hate to get of topic; but providing evidence for what you say, usually is the 1st topic covered in most college Debate & Argumentation classes; elasti-girl....

But I digress..

Providing a book review as your proof is a start (not a great one) but a start nonetheless.
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Chiune Sugihara story is very compelling and I think I am going to buy this book, but you exaggerate the "impact" he made. There were German citizens, members of the Catholic Church, and people from all over the world who helped Jews escape the Nazi's as well.

You imply that the entire Japanese government was in on it though..

You still have not pointed out this phantom "Dutch island" that off the coast of Japan...?

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"The reason why the Japanese and the Jews had a relationship to begin with was because the Japanese needed funding to fight the Russians. No one would fund the Japanese but a Jewish banker in New York (Who is this mystery New York Jewish banker? And now you claim an American citizen was helping the Japanese). The Jewish banker agreed to fund the Japanese because, at the time, the Russians was (were) giving the Jews a very hard time.


That statement is complete fiction!



Oh yea, your still short.
Short in height & reasoning capacities
You will not beleive this ya'll..

elasti-girls "proof" that financier/banker Jacob Schiff funded the Japanese WW2 war machince is as full of crapp as she is..

He gave me a link from a white power web site.

And it still did'nt prove his point..

Jacob Schiff gave the Russians money to fund the Bolshevik Revolution. According to this idiots own link...

For the record elasti-girl WW2 & the Bolshevik Revolution were 2 different conlicts.
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elasti-girls "proof" that financier/banker Jacob Schiff funded the Japanese WW2 war machince is as full of crapp as she is..


Blaqfist, you have to be one of the most ignorant, on top of jealous and envious, fools on this site, next to Nmaginate and Captain Cartoon Network, AudioGuy, which reminds me, yeah, AudioGuy, as long as you pop your Pinky and the Brain, simpleton ass all over the place, following my forums and posting snide comments, I'm going to keep your silly ass name in my mouth.

Now, back to you, Blaqfist--being 6'1" and 235 pounds sure hasn't done much for your intelligence or your attention span--you sound like a fat ass, beer belly, Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles lifetime member-looking, motherfucker, Blaqfist. Come on and be a man-- post your pic on avatar instead of hiding behind an old ass picture of some Black Panthers. I'm sitting here laughing my ass off because you sounded like some fat ass, jealous homosexual--talking about my pic like you're some kinda flaming ass faggit. That, porky, is, alone, so suspect, I bet you have a lavender mousepad and a dick-shaped mouse.



You have to be the dumbest loser on this site or you're so embarrassed from making a fool out of yourself, for running off at the mouth like Joan Rivers after finishing off a 40, that you're making shit up. First of all, you alienated nut, where the hell did I say, Jacob Schiff funded the Japanese in WWII? Copy and paste the post where I said that, you lying tub of lard.Pry the cheeseburger away from your fat ass face and wipe the chicken grease from your glasses and read again, fatso.

Don't worry, Blaqfist, I'm not going to let your simple-minded ass digress--let me remind you of the ignorant ass statement you made:

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]I believe this is a figment of your imagination, why would; or how could a high ranking Japanese government official be able to pull this off? At the time Japan was a monarchy, the person trying to get away with this would be committing treason, in effect helping the enemies of a country that his home country was at war with.


Not only did I prove your ignorant ass wrong, I even used a site that provided a picture of the book, as well as the specific feat, Chiune Sugihara, executed--forging 6000 passports without Japan's knowledge, which he suffered for later. I doubt you could even do more than 3 pushups without coughing your cholesterol-clogged heart up out of your mouth, let alone forge 6000 passports in Japanese, by yourself.

I don't care how many insults and lies you sling across cyberspace--I don't care whether you waffle and make up excuses about whether the site isn't to your liking,the fact is, you said the whole story was a figment of my imagination, and I proved your dough boy ass wrong. Just be a fucking man, at least half a man, take the tampon out of your anus, and admit you were wrong.

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You imply that the entire Japanese government was in on it though..


You're a fuckingliar, Blaqfist--you lying, fat ass, sack of shit. I said, "one high-ranking Japanese official."

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You still have not pointed out this phantom "Dutch island" that off the coast of Japan...?


First of all, I said they sailed from Japan--you make up so much bullshit to try to cover up the fact that I made you look like an ass
in front of your Punky Brewster, blues clues buddies, that you're just typing up anything. You said you were going to purchase the book, so shut the fuck up and go get the damn book, you lying ass loser.

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You will not beleive this ya'll..


Who the fuck you talking to, Blaqfist? It's been nearly two days and nobody has come to your aid--it's because your buddies saw the proof for themselves and left you hanging. You so bad, Mr. paperdoll Black Panther, what the fuck do you need an audience for? I'm coming at you with cold, hard facts, not insults, lies and fuckery.

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For the record elasti-girl WW2 & the Bolshevik Revolution were 2 different conlicts.


No fucking shit, you cellulite challenged lard ass. Show me where I said one damn thing about WWII, and the only reason why you can even put the name, Bolshevikin your big flapping mouth is because I posted a link to the website that tells you about Schiff's involvement with the Japanese.

You're a fucking liar, Blaqfist, and, even worse, you're an underhanded, evil ass, cowardly ass son of a bitch. I can't stand a lying ass coward that needs an audience to gain enough courage to engage in a conversation.

You're out of your league, Blaqfist, in every sense of the term. You need to go join a gym and lose some of the fat that's applying so much pressure to your brain.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
..and, HeruStar, you will always remain on my list of sorry ass negroes with a bruised ego, right along with LimDem, Vox, Nmaginate, kevin41, and AudioGuy. QUOTE]


Look you little midget sonofabitch...be kool...so when I see you I do not rest my beer on your head while I watch the game....some skank told you that gay azz calendar pose looks good or something......if ya azz was straight, you would probably have posted that picture somewhere for the sisters..and as so far as a bruised ego........bro, don't flatter yourself....but there is nothing like a negro who flaps his gums and then praises himself after the fact....kinda like how that dumb azz president nods his head when he thinks he's convinced someone that the stupid azz schit coming out of his mouth has validity...now if you think about it in perspective, your bitch azz came in here and tried to garner the attention of the fellas in here...and in a way that is real hoe-like.......wanting to go through love-spats with everyone...man you are both a mental and a physical spetacle of a brother and do not know it.....so I do not have much else to say to ya lil sawed-off emotionally female beligerent azz............
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Originally posted by blaqfist:
Me jealous of you?

elasti-girl, I don't have a pic to show you what I look like, but I am 6'1 & 235 pounds.

Why on earth would I be jealous of you?

Should I want to be short?

What advantages does being short have?

You do pay less at the movie theaters then I do...


**You forgot amusement park rides....oh that's right...he can't ride em...because when they lower the bar for your waist, it hits him in the forehead............
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Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
Captain Cartoon Network, AudioGuy, which reminds me, yeah, AudioGuy, as long as you pop your Pinky and the Brain, simpleton ass all over the place, following my forums and posting snide comments, I'm going to keep your silly ass name in my mouth...
Wow... you really don't have a life...

When you posted a "cartoon" as your avatar, what was that??

You have truly gone off the deep end... you are truly mentally unstable... get some help!
Kweli4Real--Oh please, PLEASEmake a request to, MBM: Create an entire forum for ego deflated, insecure, manhood easily threatened by a picture of a man, losers like Blountfist, umm, I mean, Blaqfist, and his hop-along Cassidy sidekick, Nmurinate, I mean, Nmaginate, and, Vox (The "V" is for VESTITE). You could name the forum SMACK DOWN/R.A.W. (Retarded Ass Wannabee intellectuals).

Kevin41--and you call yourself a college professor. Stop cheerleading on the sidelines like a stuck up, ponytail-wearing, panty wedgy- having white, valley girl, B squad, chearleader. If you ain't got nothing constructive or significant to offer to the conversation, you need to sit your sniveling ass down too--fix me a sammich or something.

AudioGuy--you're even envious of the comic art--a pic that looks edifyingly like me. You don't have the charisma, the style nor the rugged good looks to have someone model a comic book character after you. Sit down and shut the fuck up, Audioguy, you're getting silly puddy all over my forum floor.

Nmaginate--I saved you for last because I know you're my biggest fan. I know, Nmaginate, why don't you create a whole nother' website and name it IHATEIRONHORSE.ORG.

You know what, Nmurinate? In the process of selecting a website to support my discussion on, Jacob Schiff, I never took one split second to read the name of the website. I don't give a fuck if it was a white supremist site, a black supremist site, a hispanic supremist site, an asian supremist site, a foodtv.com site or a Pokemon supremist site: THE FACTS ARE RIGHT THERE IN YOUR FACE.

You want to go to another website, where you'll find the same information but under a different name--suit yourself--you'll still find the same information.

Oh yeah, and by the way, don't even think of trying to paint me in a negative light--thinking your shrewd deed will somehow dilute the credibility of the sources I chose to quote my info from. You don't know who the fuck you're dealing with--I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else on this website thinks about me--you can't deny the facts, and the facts are, I can shut you motherfuckers down at will--at my nearest convenience. I'm a literary terminator--no audience, no amount of biased supporters, no amout of slanderous insults, no amount of undermining comments, and no amount of resistance can stop me. You're helpless, you're compelled, you hate my guts but you can't wait to see what I'll say next, and I'm still not even full throttle on you techincal school rejects.

I'm the last person on your mind when you go to sleep, the first person on your mind when you log on in the morning and scurry to AA.org, "What did that motherfucker, IRONHORSE, say today?"

You ain't ready forreal......
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Hay, ya'll information is information, regardless of where you get it....

I see elasti-girl likes to do a little web-surfin'...


Shut the fuck up, Blaqfist.

You contested my discussion--you lost.

It's over, Blaqfist.

Stop whining, shut the fuck up, and sit down.

You're fired. Clean your desk out and turn your office keys in.

It's over--THE END.
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First of all, you alienated nut, where the hell did I say, Jacob Schiff funded the Japanese in WWII? Copy and paste the post where I said that, you lying tub of lard.
elasti-girl.


Hear that erre'body? That is the sound of the truth being stretched. Well unfortunately I cannot find the place where you said that, but you just happened to use the two in the same paragraph w/ out making any distinctions. (My bad). That is a pretty good piece of rhetoric there iron azz, to be really general and not make any distinctions, kind of leaves the discussion open hungh? No one can really pin you down on anything. Pretty slick.

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It was due to one Japanese governmental official that single-handedly forged thousands of passports for the escaping Jews so that they may enter Japan, and thereby sail to a Dutch settled island. ironazz


"enter Japan, and thereby sail to a Dutch island". That is the real zinger here. All I have to go on is you claim they entered Japan and then no mention is made of them doing anything other then sailing to a Dutch island. I assumed they went from Japan to an island that is reasonably close (200-300 miles) to Japan.. (My bad again)

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Why did the Japanese agree to help the Jews? Because Rabbis convinced Japanese governmental officials that after the Nazis were through exterminating the Jews they would be next to be exterminated due to the fact that the Nazis' plan was to populate the world with a blue-eyed, blonde-haired super race. ironazz


Wow, this one is kinda hard for me to reconcile here, ironazz.. You specifically mention the Nazis (who did not exist during Bolshevik Revolution), you also mention "Japanese government officials" I can safely assume that that means at least 2 people and you mention the Nazi extermination of the Jews (a WW2 event)?

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"The reason why the Japanese and the Jews had a relationship to begin with was because the Japanese needed funding to fight the Russians. No one would fund the Japanese but a Jewish banker in New York. The Jewish banker agreed to fund the Japanese because, at the time, the Russians was (were) giving the Jews a very hard time. ironazz


Well according to your "source" Mr. Schiff assisted the Communist Bolsheviks in overthrowing the Russian Monarchy. The Japanese did fight the Russians for possession of Manchuria (but that was a completely different war???). I still think you actually have your wars mixed up..
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]Chiune Sugihara story is very compelling and I think I am going to buy this book,


It's been THREE(3) days, Blaqfist--did you jog your fat ass to the bookstore and get the book, like I told you, or did you get distracted by the aroma of baking doughnuts at Krispy Kreme and make a detour?

You have nothing to say to me on anything regarding the jews and the Japanese, until you take your fat ass to the bookstore, and read the motherfucking book.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IRONHORSE:
Kevin41--and you call yourself a college professor. Stop cheerleading on the sidelines like a stuck up, ponytail-wearing, panty wedgy- having white, valley girl, B squad, chearleader. If you ain't got nothing constructive or significant to offer to the conversation, you need to sit your sniveling ass down too--fix me a sammich or something.
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** negro, shut the hell up....you are a damn comedian, spectacle of a fool if there ever was one..you sound as if you really are accomplishing something in your own mind...another self-proclaimed legend....i find you to be amusing as hell...and I do not have to CALL myself anything...the paper and the pay says it all......i betcha you are one of those DL brothers people talk about........and the way you are spewing emotional bullshit all over the board, your panties must be bloody as hell right about now....amazing.....sit your lil hoe azz down and learn something...........
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Nmaginate--I saved you for last because I know you're my biggest fan. I know, Nmaginate, why don't you create a whole nother' website and name it IHATEIRONHORSE.ORG.
Dude you're not even the THOUGHT in afterTHOUGHT.

You don't even make me laugh hard enough for me to "hate" you. And, honestly, since you bring it up, I'm the Biggest Fan of MBM and VOX (and Faheem for how well read he is) when it comes to personas in this community. And I butt heads with MBM and VOX all the time.

I admire MBM's and VOX's measured posting style, their application of LOGIC and clear thinking... So, unlike you, my ego isn't deflated by giving other people props.
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From AG:
You have truly gone off the deep end... you are truly mentally unstable... get some help!


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Originally posted by IRONHEAD:
AudioGuy--you're even envious of the comic art--a pic that looks edifyingly like me. You don't have the charisma, the style nor the rugged good looks to have someone model a comic book character after you. Sit down and shut the fuck up, Audioguy, you're getting silly puddy all over my forum floor.
I rest my case...
Just shut the fuck up, will you, Nmaginate? You've been riding my jock, like a 14 year old Usher groupie, for six motherfucking pages in this one forum. Admit it, Nmurinate, I'm the source for your entertainment while you sort mail in the basement of the corporate office you work in.

You and your fatso buddy, Blountfist, were both dumb enough to fall for the set-up, and be made fools of. Both of you suckers have the gall to use the information I provided for you in the source I used to support my discussions and think you could big boy them, twist my words around, and take my sources for your own triffling ass, underhanded benefit--wrong, assholes.

Both of you clowns are some shiftless, triffling negroes with no shame. If I was either one of you and I got humiliated, like I did you two, for being dumb enough to run my mouth before seeking clarification, I would just admit I was wrong, apologize and move on--but, noooooooooo, you two idiots, Flim and Flam, have to try to save face, quoting from my own sites, humiliating yourselves even more.

This fag, AudioGuy, just loves to see his name in the forums because it gives him a false sense of popularity--I'll keep typing your name up, AudioGuy, since you are in such a need of having your ego stroked, punk. Meanwhile, I'm in tears, cracking the fuck up at several men trying to take on one newbie and getting trashed in the process.
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** negro, shut the hell up....you are a damn comedian, spectacle of a fool if there ever was one..you sound as if you really are accomplishing something in your own mind...another self-proclaimed legend....i find you to be amusing as hell...and I do not have to CALL myself anything...the paper and the pay says it all......i betcha you are one of those DL brothers people talk about........and the way you are spewing emotional bullshit all over the board, your panties must be bloody as hell right about now....amazing.....sit your lil hoe azz down and learn something...........--kevin41


Is this the best you can do, Kevin? And you call yourself a college professor? You're a college professor, alright--you're one of those adjunct motherfuckers that teach part-time courses like Health or Human Growth and Development while you coach some lame ass intramural sport like flag football or relay racing on the side to make a halfway decent check.

Get the fuck outta here, Kevin--you're not even amusing--you're a pretentious prude looking for attention--mad because I broke your little heart when I igged your little advice on how I should conduct myself on this site. Grow some balls, Kevin, and while you're at it, here's $5--get yourself some self-esteem.
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I admire MBM's and VOX's measured posting style, their application of LOGIC and clear thinking... So, unlike you, my ego isn't deflated by giving other people props.


Yeah, most of you negroes sound gay. You hug each others nuts so hard, if one of you made a discussion talking about watching paint dry, you troop of girlscouts would fall all over each other, rushing in the discussion to post your accolades: "Gee, Vox, I didn't think of reading a magazine while watching the moisture vapors emit from the paint. You're my hero, Vox." Buncha faggits.

What cracks me up is the women on this site have more balls, maturity, class, diplomacy, tact, and common sense than you motherfuckers do. All this time and not one single woman has said anything negative about any of my pictures, but you cackle of fat hens, Vox, AudioGuy (you like seeing your name, AudioGuy, don't you, fucker?), and Blaqfist (Why the fuck do you spell blaqfist with a "q?" that's some suspect shit too), keep telling me how much you hate my pictures--and you still don't see how homosexual that sounds, first of all, and secondly, that's a lot of bullshit lip coming from a group of insecure losers that either have pictures of a kente cloth, some has-been, defunct black panthers or nothing at all on their avatar.

Next time I make a statement about something you motherfuckers think is questionable, take my word for it, ask for clarification, and wait for me to post my damn source or risk getting your asses handed to you in a crumpled up, brown paper bag. Back the fuck up--y'all ain't ready.
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It's over, Blaqfist. There's nothing else to contest. You lost. ironazz


Oh how I wish, whatever I wanted all I had to do was just say it & it was so.

Ironazz is a little mad at the world aint he..?
Look ironazz, stop tryin to look sexy on your avatar. I aint into that gay shit...

I spell blaq w/ a "q", because I can..

Is that good enoguh 4 ya'?

You little sawed off, caint ride a roller coaster, paying half price for and adult movie ticket, eat for free on Tuesdays, booster seat, may I please see your ID, doh-doh...

Sorry everbody.
Blaqfist,

What's up Bruh

Question,
How do you deal with the implications that the land that was Raped and left to hang is a $&*thole, that is Aids infested, and starving for food, intelligence, and money? Recently I've become very reactionary when dealing with people that make remarks like that. I point out the fact that Africa was Raped, still is being raped, and is now left with the desolation and corruption that was done long ago. I get "them" to shut-up when I respond in that manner, but I still get a sense that they have the satisfaction of believing that I will not go back to Africa because I can't. I don't like that at all.
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I believe this is a figment of your imagination, why would; or how could a high ranking Japanese government official be able to pull this off? At the time Japan was a monarchy, the person trying to get away with this would be committing treason, in effect helping the enemies of a country that his home country was at war with.


This is what I'm going to keep reminding you of, Blountfist, everytime you post in this forum.

You contested my information--you lost.



The End.
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Question,
How do you deal with the implications that the land that was Raped and left to hang is a $&*thole, that is Aids infested, and starving for food, intelligence, and money? Recently I've become very reactionary when dealing with people that make remarks like that.


Subtlety is definately not your strongsuit, HeruStar. Hang it up, dude--I've humiliated your conceited ass enough.
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Blaqfist,

What's up Bruh

Question,
How do you deal with the implications that the land that was Raped and left to hang is a $&*thole, that is Aids infested, and starving for food, intelligence, and money? Recently I've become very reactionary when dealing with people that make remarks like that. I point out the fact that Africa was Raped, still is being raped, and is now left with the desolation and corruption that was done long ago. I get "them" to shut-up when I respond in that manner, but I still get a sense that they have the satisfaction of believing that I will not go back to Africa because I can't. I don't like that at all.



Respectfully,

Lafayette Woodfork



I just don't want my question to get caught up in yall mix
What information? I will conceed that there was 1 Japanese official who helped Jews escape Nazi Germany (but you claimed that the Japanese goverment conspired w/ the Jews during WW2), but alot of other people helped Jews escape the Nazis as well.


You still have not told me what Dutch island the Jews sailed to off the coast of Japan. I still am of the opinon that you have your wars mixed up. Your "source" does not even back you up in what you say.

In your pictue why are you looking down?

It looks like your thinking "damm; my penis is small."
Unfortunaley HeruStar most of the time I have no response, because alot of the blame for our condition (both in Africa & in the US of A) is ours. I truley believe we could solve all of our collective problems w/ just a little effort.
There is a cure for AIDS, poverty, mis-education, famine, civil wars, ect..

If we approach all of our concerns w/ the idea that "All problems have solutions & and All questions have anwers", it would go a long way toward our liberation.
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I get caught up in swinging the blame sword way too often. I even went as far to tell a dude that I thin Aids in Africa is just a genocidal conspiracy.


That is a demonstrable fact that I believe in 100%. In addition to believing we can fix our problems we will eventually come around to seeing that there are forces arrayed against our liberation. We will soon find out that we are at war; we have been at war for at least 1000 years (we just have not been fighting back!)
My list of what reparations must include.

1. 100 years of income tax exemption.

2a. 1 time get out of jail free cards.

2b. Re-instatement of voting privileges for felons.

As far as actual cash pay-outs?? I don't include them cuz I don't think they will ever happen, plus this country would go broke from the amount that would be anything close to being just.
I'm all for the tax exemption. And believe that it could be rationally defended.

Additionally, I would like to see a tax refund of any and all income taxes paid, whether Federal, State, County or Municipal, by any and all Black folk, from the passage of the 14th amendment through the date of the last 1981 suit against a local government alleging that the government failed to enforce the CRA.
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Originally posted by blaqfist:
My list of what reparations must include.

1. 100 years of income tax exemption.


This is when you would see a whole lot of people start considering themselves "Black." No taxes?? The Klan would disband overnight and start diggin through their family tree to find someone Black. Why 100 years?

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2a. 1 time get out of jail free cards.


nono I can't get with that. Some people are in jail for a VERY good reason and I don't want to see them just turned loose overnight. A cash settlement would be completely out of the question if you intend to include this as one of your stipulations. We would very quickly be "relieved" of said cash by the more resourceful of the fresh-from-prison set. How about an automatic review of all cases involving a Black defendant?

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2b. Re-instatement of voting privileges for felons.


This would be nice. I shudder to think about what candidates will do to win "the Felon vote," but it would certainly force them to address some of the things they like to dance around (lack of rehabilitation in prison, unjust nature of mandatory sentencing, discrimination against those with prison records, etc). It seems it would at least be a start to repairing some of the damage the criminal justice system has done.

Found this online:

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IDEAL REPARATIONS = Political and Economic AUTONOMY... So we can get about the business of dealing with the problems we face with limited interruptions, obstructions and all the confusion from being Subject(ed) People.

Without those systematic changes, no amount of Reparations, IMO, will ultimately reach the potential the Dollar Signs warrant.

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