How to Tell If He's Gay or Straight

Both offer subtle cues about sexual orientation, but casual observers seem to be able to read those cues better in gay men than in lesbians, according to a study from researchers at UCLA, New York University and Texas A&M.

The study: Eight male and eight female volunteers, half of whom were gay and half of whom were straight, participated. Led by Kerri Johnson of UCLA, the team measured their hips, waists and shoulders. Then each volunteer walked on a treadmill for two minutes while being filmed by a 3D motion-capture system that allowed researchers to track the precise amount of shoulder swagger and hip sway in their gait.

The results: In terms of body motion or gait, gays and lesbians tended to have body types that were unusual for their gender. That is, gay men had hourglass figures, while the lesbians had more tubular bodies.

In addition, the gay men tended to sway their hips, while the lesbian women swaggered their shoulders more than their straight counterparts.

The team then showed the treadmill videos -- with only the volunteers' backsides visible -- to 112 undergraduate observers.

These students determined the volunteers' sexual orientation with an overall accuracy rate that exceeded chance, even though they could not see the volunteers' faces or the details of their clothing.

Specifically, the students correctly categorized sexual orientation 60 percent of the time for men; however, their accuracy for women did not exceed what they would do just by chance.

"We already know that men and women are built differently and walk differently from each other and that casual observers use this information as clues in making a range of social judgments," Johnson said in a statement announcing the findings. "Now we've found that casual observers can use gait and body shape to judge whether a stranger is gay or straight with a small but perceptible amount of accuracy."

The findings build on recent research that shows that casual observers can often correctly identify sexual orientation with very limited information.

A 1999 Harvard study, for example, found that just by looking at the photographs of seated strangers, college undergraduates were able to judge sexual orientation accurately 55 percent of the time.

"Studies like ours are raising questions about the value of the military's 'don't ask, don't tell' policy," Johnson said. "If casual observers can determine sexual orientation with minimal information, then the value in concealing this information certainly appears questionable.

Given that we all appear to be able to deduce this information to some degree with just a glance, more comprehensive policies may be required to protect gays against discrimination based on their sexual orientation."

The study findings were published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.
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Originally posted by Vox:
They put out some dumb studies. Here, they used openly gay people. A study relevant to the effectiveness of "don't ask don't tell" would have to use gays who are in the closet, I would think.


Even better would be closeted men who are actually in the military.
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Originally posted by Fabulous:
How to Tell If He's Gay or Straight

The results: In terms of body motion or gait, gays and lesbians tended to have body types that were unusual for their gender. That is, gay men had hourglass figures, while the lesbians had more tubular bodies.

In addition, the gay men tended to sway their hips, while the lesbian women swaggered their shoulders more than their straight counterparts.


I mean .... Duh! sck

I've gotta admit, out of all of my friends, I am usually (always) the last to know these things. But even I can tell judging by that criteria.

I hope they didn't spend a whole lot of money on that study. Roll Eyes
Why does it matter if "He's Gay or Straight"?

I'm not concerned about a Man being gay UnLess he's trying to pull a fast one on the dating scene....then I would be more than pissed off.

I remember seeing SomeThing on Black Planet a long time ago, in which one of the reporters was asking to interview any Ladies who had experience dealing with a Man who was on the down low....and I think it is HeartBreaking what some of those Ladies had to go through.

HopeFully, we live in an environment in which some Men feel better about "coming out of the closet"....I'd hope that SomeOne would be honest about that in this day and age.

"Wisdom Is A Woman Reflecting!"
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
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Originally posted by Vox:
They put out some dumb studies. Here, they used openly gay people. A study relevant to the effectiveness of "don't ask don't tell" would have to use gays who are in the closet, I would think.


Even better would be closeted men who are actually in the military.


Or the NFL, NBA, MBL, field of boxing ...
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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
Why does it matter if "He's Gay or Straight"?

I'm not concerned about a Man being gay UnLess he's trying to pull a fast one on the dating scene....then I would be more than pissed off.

I remember seeing SomeThing on Black Planet a long time ago, in which one of the reporters was asking to interview any Ladies who had experience dealing with a Man who was on the down low....and I think it is HeartBreaking what some of those Ladies had to go through.

HopeFully, we live in an environment in which some Men feel better about "coming out of the closet"....I'd hope that SomeOne would be honest about that in this day and age.

"Wisdom Is A Woman Reflecting!"


There's a lot of men (with women/children at home) that are secretly having sex with men that don't consider their 'on the side' activities as being gay or homosexual acts. They make excuses/rationalize it away as being something else.

I've known two of them. sck
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
There's a lot of men (with women/children at home) that are secretly having sex with men that don't consider their 'on the side' activities as being gay or homosexual acts. They make excuses/rationalize it away as being something else.

I've known two of them. sck


I know, and I never UnderStand that logic. If you are a Man sleeping with another Man, how can you not see that as gay? HomoSexual?

....I often wonder if they rationalize this away because of many Men's attitudes that "sex is sex"...the sex doesn't have to have any "meaning" in order for men to have it.

....considering that, maybe that is why so many Men don't have a problem being "sexual" with various persons and/or things (i.e., kids, animals, blow-up dolls, etc...).

"Wisdom Is A Woman Wondering!"
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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They make excuses/rationalize it away as being something else.


Here's a clue: If you are male and willingly suck, take or do anything with a d!ck, that is not your own ... you are gay. Period


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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
There's a lot of men (with women/children at home) that are secretly having sex with men that don't consider their 'on the side' activities as being gay or homosexual acts. They make excuses/rationalize it away as being something else.

I've known two of them. sck


....I often wonder if they rationalize this away because of many Men's attitudes that "sex is sex"...the sex doesn't have to have any "meaning" in order for men to have it


Yep. As I understand it, that's pretty much what it is.
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....I often wonder if they rationalize this away because of many Men's attitudes that "sex is sex"...the sex doesn't have to have any "meaning" in order for men to have it.

....considering that, maybe that is why so many Men don't have a problem being "sexual" with various persons and/or things (i.e., kids, animals, blow-up dolls, etc...).


Hmmmmmm.....Now that's food for thought.
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
There's a lot of men (with women/children at home)that are secretly having sex with men that don't consider their 'on the side' activities as being gay or homosexual acts. They make excuses/rationalize it away as being something else.

I've known two of them"

I wonder how many of these guys have prison records. I wonder if these guys got this way as a result of prison rape

Kevin
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Originally posted by kevin1122:
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
There's a lot of men (with women/children at home)that are secretly having sex with men that don't consider their 'on the side' activities as being gay or homosexual acts. They make excuses/rationalize it away as being something else.

I've known two of them"

I wonder how many of these guys have prison records. I wonder if these guys got this way as a result of prison rape

Kevin


You can't make a heterosexual man gay with homosexual rape anymore than you can make a homosexual woman "straight" with heterosexual rape. That said, many individuals who engage in same-sex activities are acting out behavior conditioned by traumatic childhood sexual experiences.
Malik

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You can't make a heterosexual man gay with homosexual rape anymore than you can make a homosexual woman "straight" with heterosexual rape.

The question was not weather they were gay or not, the question was if this behavior they are engaging in is the result of rape, or being raped in prison
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"That said, many individuals who engage in same-sex activities are acting out behavior conditioned by traumatic childhood sexual experiences."

Maybe they are acting out behavior conditioned by traumatic PRISON sexual experiences

Kevin
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Originally posted by kevin1122:
Malik

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You can't make a heterosexual man gay with homosexual rape anymore than you can make a homosexual woman "straight" with heterosexual rape.

The question was not weather they were gay or not, the question was if this behavior they are engaging in is the result of rape, or being raped in prison
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"That said, many individuals who engage in same-sex activities are acting out behavior conditioned by traumatic childhood sexual experiences."

Maybe they are acting out behavior conditioned by traumatic PRISON sexual experiences

Kevin


I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that rape can induce adults to compulsively engage in same-sex activities. I suppose it's possible.
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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
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They make excuses/rationalize it away as being something else.


*Here's a clue: If you are male and willingly suck, take or do anything with a d!ck, that is not your own ... you are gay. Period


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Malik:

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"I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that rape can induce adults to compulsively engage in same-sex activities. I suppose it's possible."

It may not be about the person getting raped! A person who is a predator rapist in prison might find himself developing an appetite for such activities; (remember when your momma said don't make that face or it might stay that way) and upon release even though he will go after women and maybe even marry one, he might find himself occationally resorting back to his old prison ways and going after a dude

I'd like to see some kinda data that shows the percentage of men on the down-low who also have incarceriation records

Kevin
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by Fabulous:
How to Tell If He's Gay or Straight

The results: In terms of body motion or gait, gays and lesbians tended to have body types that were unusual for their gender. That is, gay men had hourglass figures, while the lesbians had more tubular bodies.

In addition, the gay men tended to sway their hips, while the lesbian women swaggered their shoulders more than their straight counterparts.


I mean .... Duh! sck

I've gotta admit, out of all of my friends, I am usually (always) the last to know these things. But even I can tell judging by that criteria.

I hope they didn't spend a whole lot of money on that study. Roll Eyes

No, just a lot of money. LOL

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