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It seems like to win the White House, Democrats must run a moderate Southerner who can deliver against the moral issues that are so important throughout the South these days.

Hmmmm . . . who could fit that bill? Well, none other than Al Gore who, despite the fact that he didn't win his state in his presidential run, is from Tennessee and has a wife (Tipper) who has a long and deep record of attempting to cure America of its immorality - particularly through music. Based upon current politics, I wonder if Al Gore will enjoy a resurgence that might sweep him into the White House in 2008.

Maybe Gore will have the last laugh after all!

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Originally posted by MBM:
It seems like to win the White House, Democrats must run a moderate Southerner who can deliver against the moral issues that are so important throughout the South these days.

Hmmmm . . . who could fit that bill? Well, none other than Al Gore who, despite the fact that he didn't win his state in his presidential run, is from Tennessee and has a wife (Tipper) who has a long and deep record of attempting to cure America of its immorality - particularly through music. Based upon current politics, I wonder if Al Gore will enjoy a resurgence that might sweep him into the White House in 2008.

Maybe Gore will have the last laugh after all!


Reid from Nevada would be better than Gore: the Left may disagree with him on two issues: abortion & gun control but let's face it most of the States disagrees with the Democrats on those two issues.

A matter of pragmatism: can't pick someone too extreme.
Democrats have a very hard time winning without carrying at least some southern States. This has been the case since the Dixiecrats became Republicans (1948).

The South is still pissed about integration of the Army (1948). That is compounded by Brown v Board (1954). That is compounded by the Civil Rights Act of 1957. That is compounded by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 AND the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

AND the Supreme Courts decisions upholding the legality all of all those acts.

The South is pissed!!!

The South has been pissed since losing the Civil War. Check out The Compromise of 1877.

Every Democrat President, except Kennedy, since FDR has been from a Southern State!!! And Kennedy won by less than 50,000 votes!!!

That's no accident.

The 'South' is pissed.

The leverage for the political system of the United States is African America as an organized political force.

Until then it will be 'catch as catch can.'

PEACE

Jim Chester
Democrats want to win back the White House..they should..

1) Stop being gutless, whining idiots. Most of the country AGREES with the majority of Democratic ideals and platforms but lately they have been acting like the children in the "Pied Piper". If you wer'nt sure of the motives for Iraq then for Gods sake dont vote for the war!

2)Stop worrying about the White House and remember that CONGRESS makes the laws, CONGRESS has the power of the purse...AND START USING THE POWER OF THIER POSITIONS!

3) Stop letting the Republicans walk all over them like "welcome" is tattoed on thier backs!
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Originally posted by xxGAMBITxx:
Democrats want to win back the White House..they should..

>>>Why? What have they done to win back the presidency?

1) Stop being gutless, whining idiots. Most of the country AGREES with the majority of Democratic ideals and platforms but lately they have been acting like the children in the "Pied Piper". If you wer'nt sure of the motives for Iraq then for Gods sake dont vote for the war!

>>>>Whining Idiots, YOu got that right. lol
Most of AMerica, does not agree with Liberalism.
They want goverment out of their lives.
Liberals Voted for the war, so they could be seen as War birds. NOw that they want Bush out of office, they want to claim the war is all Bushes doing, afte they all Voted for it.

Facts>>>>What the Dems were saying about Iraq and WMDs before they decided to try to use the issue against the Bush administration:

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Bergler, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


2)Stop worrying about the White House and remember that CONGRESS makes the laws, CONGRESS has the power of the purse...AND START USING THE POWER OF THIER POSITIONS!
>>>SO Bush shouldn't be blamed for the overspentding on the war & welfare type programs?


3) Stop letting the Republicans walk all over them like "welcome" is tattoed on thier backs!
>> I don't remember Liberals, SOrry Progressives, saying that when they were in power for over fifty years?
Their is only one way the Democrats can win the White House----Clinton/Winfrey 2008 ticket...Winfrey says she is not political but everthing she does is political from her shows about child rape to human trafficing to being mad as hell or Katrina......Clinton has the exprerience and Winfrey has the connectivity to the people.....if they run on a 2008 ticket, suburban-holly rolly-confederate women will turn against their own....if this ticket could happen, the entire face of all governments [local, state, and federal] would change instantly.....the good thing is that if Oprah doesn't like it then she can leave the ticket for 2012 and Clinton can choose Obama as her new running mate----------the perfect setup to changing governments, making a way for elgible and capable women to assume office, and for setting up the first AA-male president! I would even keep Condi around because she is smart regardless of her political affiliation, which she can not help due to the fact that her father raised her as a republican because he did not want to be a dixiecrat!!!
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Originally posted by MBM:
It seems like to win the White House, Democrats must run a moderate Southerner who can deliver against the moral issues that are so important throughout the South these days.

Hmmmm . . . who could fit that bill? Well, none other than Al Gore who, despite the fact that he didn't win his state in his presidential run, is from Tennessee and has a wife (Tipper) who has a long and deep record of attempting to cure America of its immorality - particularly through music. Based upon current politics, I wonder if Al Gore will enjoy a resurgence that might sweep him into the White House in 2008.

Maybe Gore will have the last laugh after all!


John Edwards not only fits most of your description (moderate white southern male), but he's also a much better candidate, and lacks many of Gore's weaknesses.

I'm not convinced that "morality" is the issue people claim it to be. But I do think that Democrats need - for practical purposes - to drop the gay marriage issue in 2008 and focus on "bread 'n butter" morality: jobs, education, and war.

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