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Hmm, I may be wrong or out of the loop, but if anyone believes the House of Representatives is being run like a Plantation than surely he or she need a history lesson. Leave it to Hilary Clinton, a white woman and a Democrat to make a silly analogy that compares Plantation rule to the business practices of Congress men and women.

For those who do not know, this is the second time Hilary has made claims that the HOR is being run like a plantation, back in 2004 she said the same thing, which goes to show if Hilary is not smacked around for telling a lie the first time around she will continue to do so in typical European fashion.

So to get to the bottom of Mrs. Clinton comparison we must juxtapose the HOR with a Plantation and see if there are any similarities we know of. The first thing we know that contradicts Hilary's position is that every one in the HOR is a paid government official, where as those on a Plantation never received payment for their work. The HOR's get paid Holiday breaks a few times a year, Enslaved men and women were known to only have Christmas day off. There are no female Representatives I know of that are being raped by the HOR, leadership and I can not recall any recent lynching involving a HOR member male or female. I like most of you know that HOR members can never be found working from sun up to sun down, in the hot sun and most HOR members are dressed pretty well. Again I admit I don't know everything about Congress men and women but I know of no recent whippings handed down on the Capital floor other than weak Democrats being mopped across the floor but no whips were involved. Any of you know of a Congressman and his family being sold recently? Well clearly the HOR are not being compared to the enslaved men and women on the Plantation so now we must look at the Enslavers to see if this is what Hilary is comparing the HOR to.

The Enslavers often referred to as the "Masters" on the plantation, raped those over whom they had power, contrary to many revisionist their can never be a consensual relationship between the enslaved and the enslaver based on the nature of their relationship. Congress men and women who are elected to office are constantly raping the men and women in America if not physically than economically. The enslavers did very little work, never responded to the wishes of those whom they enslaved; Congress men and women do very little work and do not follow or respond to the wishes of their constituents and are whores to the lobbyist. The enslaver were known to dress nice, much like Congress men and women, The enslaver opposed anything meant to uplift Black folk in America, much like the Congress.

Maybe Hilary is right, the HOR is like a Plantation, a Plantation of "Masters" because there sure as hell is nothing comparable to the life of the enslaved to the life of a congress person.
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There are Negroes who will never fight for freedom. There are Negroes who will seek profit for themselves from the struggle. There are even some Negroes who will cooperate with the oppressors. The hammer blows of discrimination, poverty, and segregation must warp and corrupt some. No one can pretend that because a people may be oppressed, every individual member is virtuous and worthy. Martin Luther King

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I think the point that she was trying to make is just that the Republiocan leadership runs roughshod over anything and anyone that does not explicitly support Republican objecitves. For ecxample, seeing the extraordinary difference in how Republicans went after her husband because he lied about consensual sex versus how they turn their eyes from criminal behavior in the current Whitehouse that has contradicted the Constitution and Bill of Rights, as well as law.
I am noting that once again Ms Clinton is reaching 'into African American-related heritage to make her point. Like 'It Takes a Village...'

I also don't think her analogy is terribly far off the mark, if at all.

Washington, D.C. itself is, in fact, constructed on the plantation model. The city is a separate political entity controlled entirely at the discretion of the U.S. Congress, without active representation in the business of the nation.

In its original construction, the residents quarters ran up to immediate juxtaposition with the primary resident of the government.

Those residents were enslaved by law until it became a glaring contradiction to the duplicitous intent of the impending proclamation regarding slaves resident in jurisdictions controlled by the United States.

Slavery was outlaw in the summer of 1862. Had that not been done, they would have remained enslaved as did all others living in jurisdictions controlled by The Union.

PEACE

Jim Chester
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Originally posted by MBM:
I think the point that she was trying to make is just that the Republiocan leadership runs roughshod over anything and anyone that does not explicitly support Republican objecitves. For ecxample, seeing the extraordinary difference in how Republicans went after her husband because he lied about consensual sex versus how they turn their eyes from criminal behavior in the current Whitehouse that has contradicted the Constitution and Bill of Rights, as well as law.


There is no watering over her analogy, there is nothing she can say or for that matter you can say that can juxtapose rich folk and bureaucracy with the way Plantations were run. While Plantation reality contradicted parts of the constitution, local and state law were in accordance with Plantation life. Plantation realities were far more than violations of parts of the constitution and I do not believe her analogy makes sense and lessens the impact of the role of Plantation in our enslavement and disrespects our ancestors all at the same time. If she wanted to find a system where heavy handiness is used she could have said the HOR is a dictatorship versus comparing it to something it could not get further from, unless she is saying the congress is acting as "Masters" and the men and women in America are the slaves. Beyond that, the bureaucratic nonsense that goes on in the congress does not make it equal to a Plantation.
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Originally posted by James Wesley Chester:
I am noting that once again Ms Clinton is reaching 'into African American-related heritage to make her point. Like 'It Takes a Village...'

I also don't think her analogy is terribly far off the mark, if at all.

Washington, D.C. itself is, in fact, constructed on the plantation model. The city is a separate political entity controlled entirely at the discretion of the U.S. Congress, without active representation in the business of the nation.

In its original construction, the residents quarters ran up to immediate juxtaposition with the primary resident of the government.

Those residents were enslaved by law until it became a glaring contradiction to the duplicitous intent of the impending proclamation regarding slaves resident in jurisdictions controlled by the United States.

Slavery was outlawed Washington, D.C. in the summer of 1862. Had that not been done, the African American-American residents of that city would have remained enslaved as did all others living in jurisdictions controlled by The Union.

PEACE

Jim Chester
No, Hillary is correct. I think what is being misunderstood is that she is in the comparison the House of Representatives ARE the masters and the masses of American citizens are the slaves.

I totally agree with her, and will go on to say that (as I have said before) that this republican regime IS running America like a plantation;

During slavery, those with money held all the power in this country and disbursed it to whom ever and where ever they chose to, and held it back from whomever they did not want to have it through laws and rules and regulations, and through propaganda and intimidation campaigns.

So, this republican regime (republican dominated congress and supreme court, and state governors, mayors, police, judges, lawyers) ARE the 'massas' and the masses (everybody else) are merely field slaves or house slaves.

I really don't know what else anyone expected or expects from a congress and supreme court that is predominately southern dressed up rednecks or who have either been appointed by one.
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Originally posted by sunnubian:
No, Hillary is correct. I think what is being misunderstood is that she is in the comparison the House of Representatives ARE the masters and the masses of American citizens are the slaves.

I totally agree with her, and will go on to say that (as I have said before) that this republican regime IS running America like a plantation;

During slavery, those with money held all the power in this country and disbursed it to whom ever and where ever they chose to, and held it back from whomever they did not want to have it through laws and rules and regulations, and through propaganda and intimidation campaigns.

So, this republican regime (republican dominated congress and supreme court, and state governors, mayors, police, judges, lawyers) ARE the 'massas' and the masses (everybody else) are merely field slaves or house slaves.

I really don't know what else anyone expected or expects from a congress and supreme court that is predominately southern dressed up rednecks or who have either been appointed by one.


You have any proof that this is what she meant? I opined as you did that if she was talking about the Congress relationship with the masses of men and women in America as one of Slave and Master than she is not that far from the truth albeit the analogy still pales in comparison to what our ancestors lived through and that legacy should not be disrespected by equating it with realities far less inhumane.
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You have any proof that this is what she meant? I opined as you did that if she was talking about the Congress relationship with the masses of men and women in America as one of Slave and Master than she is not that far from the truth albeit the analogy still pales in comparison to what our ancestors lived through and that legacy should not be disrespected by equating it with realities far less inhumane.

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I can't see the difference in whether she said house of representatives, congress, supreme court, republican dominated political posts across the board, same difference; republican dominated and controlled and the neo-republican party is dominated and controlled by racist white southerners. But I guess you may have to have been born and raised in the south and know enough about southern history to know for a fact that post slavery, the south was pretty much run in the same was as the cotton plantations were during slavery the people with money and power running everybody else, intimidating everybody else, jim crowing everybody else, people with money and power usurping people's constitutional rights and making up their own laws and regulations that keep the masses entangled within their unfair clutches, with those who knew better drained of any power against it (through convient laws, intimidation, and racist and otherwise propaganda) and those who did not know any better keep further in the dark and ignorance of what was really going on.

This country is being run by southern racists, southern good old boy networks, corporate America, policing forces that have been given damn near free raign on the masses (actually intented for Blacks and other minorities, and any whites that do not fit into the mold they have created for them).

The same tactics that the predominately republican political structure is using on the American public are the same tactics used to enslave people on plantations in America, to keep them enslaved on plantations, to dup the masses into believing that is was right, brainwashing the masses into looking the other way and/or going along with such a crime against humanity, and actually being gullible enough to go away to war and fight and die over plantation 'interest', i.e., slavery.

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