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George Lucas: Hollywood Didn’t Want to Fund ‘Red Tails’ Because It Was All Black

George Lucas made an appearance on The Daily Show last night and said what most black people in Hollywood have been saying for years: It’s hard to get funding for black movies because they’re, well – black. It’s not because black scripts are poorly written that they are difficult to fund, but because there’s no role in an all black script for a white lead.

“It’s because it’s an all-black movie. There’s no major white roles in it at all…I showed it to all of them and they said no. We don’t know how to market a movie like this” said Lucas.

The motion picture “Red Tails” , which opens January 20 and stars Terrence Howard and Cuba Gooding Jr, tells the story of the Tuskegee Airmen who fought in the segregated armed forces during World War II. In addition to having an all black cast, the movie was directed by black director Anthony Hemingway. Lucas also predicted that if “Red Tails” does good box office numbers during its opening week, it’ll probably be easier to get funding for movies with all black casts in the future.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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AFRICAN AMERICA IS AT WAR

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THERE IS A RACE WAR ON AFRICAN AMERICANS

THERE IS A RACE WAR ON BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA

AMERICA'S RACISTS HAVE INFILTRATED AMERICAN POLICE FORCES TO WAGE A RACE WAR AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA

THE BLACK RACE IS AT WAR

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Obama to host Tuskegee Airmen, cast of 'Red Tails'

 
Obama to host Tuskegee Airmen, cast of 'Red Tails'

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President Obama and the first lady greet Tuskegee Airmen and the cast of 'Red Tails' at a White House screening (courtesy of the White House)


President Obama on Friday afternoon will host the Tuskegee Airmen and the cast and crew of the new film about the pilots called Red Tails for a screening of the movie at the White House.

 

The screening will be at 5:30 p.m. at the White House for the film, which will be released on Jan. 20 in theaters.

 

<small>WATCH THE FIRST SEVEN MINUTES OF 'RED TAILS' HERE:</small>

RT Clip from Tambay Obenson on Vimeo.

 

It's not the first time Obamas has used the 40-seat theater to show a film or one about African-Americans. Last year, around Father's Day, the White House hosted military families for a screening of the Cars 2, and in February 2011, Obama invited some key African-American leaders to see Thurgood, the HBO film about the first black Supreme Court justice.

 

The showing, and the placement of it on Obama's schedule that is released to press, is also a nod to the African-American community a few days before the birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr. While not constantly emphasizing his status as the first black president, Obama's decision to host these kinds of events can help with maintaining relationships with key black leaders and activists.

 

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  Well...I just found out that Lucas is dating a black woman named Melody.  She is the financial analyst on Good Morning America and have had her own show on ABC talking about debt.  I say this to say that maybe her input influenced Lucas' decision to make this movie.  And maybe he realized that in his own country instead of in fantasy space, there are true life STORIES to be told that many "white" producers don't wanna tell.  But!  For whatever reason, I am glad that we finally have significant filmmakers like Lucas supporting our historic legacy in this nation.  I think he is BRAVE to take this stance.  Cuz it is TIME for truth....instead of all these bullshit unrealistic tales about white heroes....white supermacy.  We all know that those are NOT real STORIES...merely white propaganda.  So kudos to him....and I project others will follow.  But! 

You know, over the weekend I read this commentary by Roland Martin which he entitled "Hollywood's irrational allergy to "Black" films" where he pretty much did a pretty good job of railing about Hollywood's lack of backing "all Black-cast films."

 

I generally look at Roland Martin as an 'apologist' most of the time and am not impressed by what he has to say - and this time wasn't much different - but I think he did write a good article! 

 

However, at the end of it, my thought was that .... it is soooooo waaaaayyyyy past time that Black people STOP being so worried and caring so much about what White people (and not just Hollywood!) will or won't do for us ... what they think or don't think about us ... and even how they treat (and don't treat) us!!!

 

We waste tooooooo much time, energy, money and emotion on seeking their approval ... and then taking it so hard when they won't give it. 

 

If we would spend the same amount of time concentrating on building, having, creating our OWN everything ... i.e., movies, businesses, corporations, schools, infrastructure, financial networks, etc., and everything else ....... what "Hollywood" is (or is not) willing to put out for our benefit would be so insignificantly important, it wouldn't even be funny!!!

 

So far, Tyler Perry is the only one with the ... balls .. (Sorry, I couldn't think of any other way to say it!) to go out there and start his own Black movie studio and produce Black films .... and it's amazing how much hate (not love) he gets from it by multitudes within the Black community!!

 

It's one thing to hate a specific movie he puts out ... but it's another thing to refuse to even appreciate that a Black man successfully bucked the very White-dominated "Hollywood" system that we're sitting in this thread complaining about right now  and created his own successful movie studio specifically due to the fact that "Hollywood" will not appreciate Black talent and Black entertainers and make decent films and create decent roles for Black actors in their movies!!

 

I mean .... that IS what everybody's complaining about, right?? 

 

George Lucus is a White man ... and therefore, it would be impossible for him to be a Black-owned studio owner.   But no Black person - other than Tyler Perry - has been willing to do what needs to be done in that arena, either.  So we're just left with complaining about the fact that White people won't anything good for us in entertaining.

 

And a fat lot of good that's doing.  Again ... what a waste.

  You know...it ain't rocket science yall.  Black consumers are a trillion dollar industry.  So I would go independent and just put it out there if I had the mola and talent.  Trust me somebody will pick it up.  Cuz I'm sure there are those like me who are JUST freaking tired of this white man in a white horse saving the day bullshit while folks are starving to death as a result of his legacy of colonalism.  People are now looking for real life topics that correlates with what is happening now or has happened in the past.  And you're right Sista ER folks need to gather their balls....and fock Hollywood cuz we see they are nothing but a  bunch of plastic surgery consumed don't live in the real world FAKES who have had their time with this unrealistic bullshit they called "film art."   People are passed thirsty....and there are many black folks who have the money to pull this off.  But the million dollar question is:  will they?  But!

Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher:

Owning a studio isn't the only issue.  The issue is in entertainment is distribution.  You can own whatever you like, if the distribution channels are locked up between 3 or 4 companies, that's a bigger battle than most people know.

It actually goes to the larger issue of media ownership.  5 companies own >90% of the media outlets.

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Okay.  But ..... And .....??? 

 

I mean ... again, let me refer back to the only Black man who has successfully bucked "Hollywood" for the benefit of Black entertainment (and entertainers), Tyler Perry, who HAS a secured worldwide distribution deal in place.  Sooooo .... it's not like it can be said that it isn't possible for it to be done!!!

 

I was thinking the other day about the fact that Yemaya (with a harmonistic background chorus by NSpirit  ) have been hollerin' for YEARS ... YEARS now ... about the fact that there isn't - and needs to be - an African American cable news channel dedicated and devoted to informing Black America about REAL issues and REAL news!!! 

 

To my mind, there's only 2 reasons I can think of why this hasn't happened yet!!  (After all, they can't be the ONLY two Black people in America who feels that there is a NEED for such a channel ... or who expresses the desire to have one!).

 

Reason no. 1 would be that Black people (or a Black person) just aren't capable of owning/acquiring/buying/running such a cable channel or outlet/studio.  Or ....

 

Reason no. 2 is that there's no Black American person(s) in the entire country (or elsewhere for that matter!!) who WILL do it!!

 

I simply don't (and won't ever) believe there's ANYTHING that Black people (or a Black person, individually) CANNOT do. (Especially if the reason is determined to be "White people" ... or a White person!!!)   So Reason no. 1 is disregarded off the bat for me!

 

No ... we don't have an all-Black news channel because no Black person has stepped up to the plate to produce one!!!  (And sadly, that probably IS because of "White people" ... what they think, want or don't want, are willing or not willing to do for us!! )

 

It's SICKENING that we're still so complacent to be sitting, waiting, hoping for them to open the door for us, throw out a crumb - of invitation - for us to get in the game ... and not accepting the fact that they give their DOGS more respect (opportunity) than they're willing to give to us.

 

With the Black stories that are out there waiting and needing to be told of the REAL history of Black people, Black achievement, Black greatness, Black contribution, Black academia .. and everything else related to us as a people .... WAITING for White America/Hollywood to give their approval, offer the opportunity or outright DO it .... for US .... is one of the most ridiculous, sad, pitiful, depressing and waste of time things I can think of right about now. 

 

White people's ice is NOT colder.  Nor is their opinion (especially of us) any more important or valid than ours is.  And we needed to have figured that out ... yesterday!!

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Black folk and the Hollywood propaganda machine are talking about coming out to support Red Tails. But where were they when Spike Lee made Miracle at St. Anna?

 

I wouldn't be so quick to embrace George Lucas. Lucas is the same producer accused of subliminally portraying black charactertures in his movies as buffoons and savages. Lucas knew well in advance whites in Hollywood weren't going to fund this movie, so why the media hype? If black people fail to see what's going on then they're hopeless. 

 

Lucas's motivation for producing Red Tails isn't fellowship toward African American stories, but a tax write off and kudos points. Lucas knows he has more to gain with a tax write off for Red Tails then investing his own money to produce the film. If a Hollywood elite wants to acheive messiah status there are three things he/she must do:

 

1. make a movie with a predominately black cast

 

2. raise social issues effecting Africa

 

3. adopt a black baby


Originally Posted by Dissident:

 

Black folk and the Hollywood propaganda machine are talking about coming out to support Red Tails. But where were they when Spike Lee made Miracle at St. Anna?

 

I wouldn't be so quick to embrace George Lucas. Lucas is the same producer accused of subliminally portraying black charactertures in his movies as buffoons and savages. Lucas knew well in advance whites in Hollywood weren't going to fund this movie, so why the media hype? If black people fail to see what's going on then they're hopeless. 

 

Lucas's motivation for producing Red Tails isn't fellowship toward African American stories, but a tax write off and kudos points. Lucas knows he has more to gain with a tax write off for Red Tails then investing his own money to produce the film. If a Hollywood elite wants to acheive messiah status there are three things he/she must do:

 

1. make a movie with a predominately black cast

 

2. raise social issues effecting Africa

 

3. adopt a black baby


 

By all means we should be cautious.  However, this does remind me of the reaction (in the south) to Father Pflager from Chicago.  Many who where unaware quickly took to the idea that he was a "great white hope" that Black people where quick to fall for merely because he's white.  Naturally, people in or from Chicago have a different perspective on his works. 

 

But I understand the skepticism.

  Speaking for myself I don't think it's a "white hope" move.  But!  There is not enough BLACK folks supporting black films and as a result many GOOD black stories don't get TOLD!  I just want them TOLD.  And told with truth....doesn't matter what race the producer.  As a matter of fact, the film COLOR PURPLE wouldn't have gotten its props....if we had waited for a so-called BLACK producer to film it -wasn't gotta happen. And that was an epic film.   I ain't waiting no more..that is for black film producers to get off their azzes and film our stories.  Nope!  Plus! There's a money factor as well. Black celebrities are CHEAP about the Black experience. And don't wanna come outta their pockets.  Cuz why?  As artists they STILL have no vision.  Tragic.

 

I remember Spike getting his boxer in a bunch when he had trouble producing Malcolm X.  That shouldn't have EVER happened cuz of ALL the black celebrities at the time with money coming outta their booties....but!  It did.  So until we stop playa hatin and support our own stuff....this will continue to occur.  Cuz I am more than sure a lot of stories in our history WILL never get told-just cuz the facts I just mentioned i.e. we are cheap with ourselves.  Cuz be sure Will Smith aint thinkin about black history and he got the dollars to do ANY film, anytime...even if he went independent. I'm talking tellin our stories not this sci-fi or only in your imagination never in real life bullshit stories.  There are so many BLACK snobs in the movie industry who don't wanna let go of their dollars to produce black movies about our contribution to this country...cuz why?  They are worried about massa coming to see 'em and giving his thumbs up...instead of having VISION and seeking truth. [Geez.  There's that word again. Vision.]  And doing it anyway [filming our stories] to ensure that one:  it gets told and two:  it will be in OUR library of films [archives] so that the legacy of our history can be viewed by OUR offsprings generationally,  But!  We don't think that far in the future and that's our problem.  Even if these [potenital] films go on the B market that only MEANS folks will  have better and faster chance of seeing them in their livingrooms. And that's a BIGGER audience base.   But!  Duh...again black folks dont think that far in the future.  And this nonthinking pattern has been our achilles' heel since slavery.  But! 

Mannnnnnnnnnn ..... you are SO right about THAT, Ms. Koco!!!

 

And it's not JUST about (Black) movies or stories about us that Black folks don't/won't support each other in ..... I'm still trying to think of a subject matter where we are willing to "come together for each other" .... and support something that has to do with - and is good for - us. 

 

You let some tacky-ass, bleeped-out, scandalous, back-stabbing, 'baffoonis'h-type "reality show" come on TV and Blackfolks will get speeding tickets and knock each other down to be in front of the tube to watch it!!!  But a good, historic, enlightening story about iconic Black achievement, bravery or greatness?? 

 

They'd rather have their wisdom teeth pulled out with a pair of rusty pliers. 

 

We will NEVER get our stories told if we wait about for Black people to tell 'em.  It may have taken a White man 25 years and his OWN money to produce thisBLACK film.  But at least SOMEBODY did it!!  When a whole lot of other "somebodys" DID NOT!!! 

Originally Posted by EbonyRose:

Mannnnnnnnnnn ..... you are SO right about THAT, Ms. Koco!!!

 

And it's not JUST about (Black) movies or stories about us that Black folks don't/won't support each other in ..... I'm still trying to think of a subject matter where we are willing to "come together for each other" .... and support something that has to do with - and is good for - us. 

 

You let some tacky-ass, bleeped-out, scandalous, back-stabbing, 'baffoonis'h-type "reality show" come on TV and Blackfolks will get speeding tickets and knock each other down to be in front of the tube to watch it!!!  But a good, historic, enlightening story about iconic Black achievement, bravery or greatness?? 

 

They'd rather have their wisdom teeth pulled out with a pair of rusty pliers. 

 

We will NEVER get our stories told if we wait about for Black people to tell 'em.  It may have taken a White man 25 years and his OWN money to produce thisBLACK film.  But at least SOMEBODY did it!!  When a whole lot of other "somebodys" DID NOT!!! 

 

 

I just came back from the movie cineplex and Yes, I checked my ticket stub.  Just wanted to give proof.  Now, that I got that out of the way, who's gonna see it next?  I'm gonna see it again, just to let you all know.  It was MILES ahead better than the HBO version.  Not that HBO's film was bad, but there's a big difference between a movie made for $2 million and movie made for $93 million.  I've said it before many times: if you're doing something legit and you're not killing anyone and not breaking into somebody's car or house, I'm gonna support you.  I don't care what color the director/producer involved, as long as out stories are told (or shown) as brilliant as possible.  I don't wanna hear any BS from ANY of us saying, "well I can't relate to it, so I'm not gonna see it." Hell, I know a lot of black folks who watched "Shrek," and not a single one of them either lived in a swamp or owned a talking donkey.  They didn't have "relate" to Shrek to watch Shrek.  No more excuses.   Tyler Perry and Spike Lee can't direct all of our films.  We can make the movies, the thing is "WILL WE SUPPORT THEM?"  Either we do it, or we don't.  Just don't make any crappy films, that's all I ask.  If you do support them, then let's take it to the top.  If you don't want to support, then that's your choice...

 

HOWEVER, if your ignorant behind have the nerve to open your mouth about why there's so many films of "Madea Goes To Mardi Gras" or "Big Momma's Outhouse,"  and you refuse to see any alternative films, because you "can't relate" to it, then sit your dumbass in the corner, put your crab claws in your pockets and STFU.  Don't drag us into your backward ass abyss; be ignorant all by yourself.

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"We will NEVER get our stories told if we wait about for Black people to tell 'em.  It may have taken a White man 25 years and his OWN money to produce thisBLACK film.  But at least SOMEBODY did it!!  When a whole lot of other "somebodys" DID NOT!!!"


This is very true. Tragically, American Negroes seem   content letting others document their history. Their group indifference and apathy is shocking. Not that there is anything wrong with non-black authors writing or directing documentaries about black history or related subject matter (someone has to do it). But the vast majority of well written scholarly books and documentaries about black people are written by whites –not blacks. Where are the black historians and academians with widely respectable and acknowledged pedigrees? Why are they not the major and leading contributors to literature/documentaries concerning black history? This is a sad and inexcusable narrative about the American Negroes lack of academic interest and desire to research and write about their own history. I’m sure George Washington Williams, Carter G. Woodson and John Hope Franklin are rolling over in their graves.


Many years ago I attended a speech by a great American war hero and the commanding officer of the Tuskegee airman, General Benjamin O. Davis Jr. The crowd was 90% white! Another time I went to see a number of Tuskegee airman speak and the results were the same. There was a white woman who had three small children and she ushered them forward to meet with the former pilots. She said to her children, “Listen, theses are great American heroes. Say hello to them”. The Tuskegee airman, one black woman and I, were the only blacks present. Everyone else was white. What’s wrong with this picture? E’nuff said….

Of course white people can put out movies about black people. they have set up the economy, the culture and other dynamics to make it so that they have most of the resources. DUH.

 

  Uh....this is NOT true anymore. There are a lot of black artists that now have the resources to make black movies. Just like the record business with blacks now having their own labels, if BLACKS wanted to they could do the same in the movie industry. We have the internet, easy to use cameras---all it takes is a little creativity and imagination. And budget? Hell I remember a movie receiving an academy award with less than 50 thousand dollar budget. It can be done. But the question is how bad does the black community want it? We now have STARS from all walks of life with the money to contribute...but! Another question: why won't they? And the real "duh" is those standing on the sidelines complaining about white folks making money off of black stories....when they can do the EXACT same thang. But as usual we are waiting for massa to give us the heads up. That will NEVER happen. If we had waited for massa to give us a heads up for our freedom....we still be slaves. We have to put our big girl/boy pants on and TELL our stories....and later for massa. But!

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