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You truly hate whites, you can barely tolerate our presence. If you had the chance, you would not exterminate the white race, nor would you want to even make us better, you would want us to feel inferior, you would do to us what we did to you. You are no better then some pompous plantation owning fop in the American colonies, whipping his slaves. Thank you for your venom tipped help, I will leave you and your forum with this.
My brothers and sisters.... Black or White...
This is the kind of underlining beliefs that stands in the way of Racial Reconciliation.
I've had I don't know how many conversations that have resulted in the same ole tired White sentiment:
"you would do to us what we did to you."
How sad...
... and this for someone who said:
"too much political correctness sickens me."
You would think that even the most extreme "Afrocentricism" wouldn't offend or alienate him. But... one of the unfortunate "blinding" side-effects of White racism, or more specifically the reluctance in our society [controlled by whites] to deal with race effectively, is the illness of Projective Mis-Perceptions.
When a White person hears "Pro-Black" or Afrocentric perspectives, be it in history or socio-political terms, they automatically equate that with "painting" things Black in order to yield the reverse of the present order; essentially, trying to place Blacks on top and Whites on the bottom. Nothing could be further from the truth.
If, in fact, history has been distorted then we do ourselves a disservice to continue to ascribe to the status quo and approach the truth seeking that history represents in a timid, compromising fashion. By doing that we give ground to regress and not progress.
The TRUTH is THE TRUTH no matter what color it is or was. While history is of utmost importance it has no power to change the
racial balance-of-power today except for declouding racial myths that may only be one of many factors that influence decision-making.
Whites repeatedly say that most things are not "racial issues"... why should history be one? Certainly historical figures had to be of some race or another, whether they defined themselves in the racial terms we use today or not. To try to downplay that is to try to be "politically correct" in a way to avoid dealing with the racial fallout for challenging what we have been told to be the truth - which is irresponsible.
My Ex Neo friend... if you're still there here's excerpts from a "White" author [book review] that corroborates some of AFROMAN's assertions with no apologies or concessions to anyone, Black or White:
BLACK SPARK, WHITE FIRE:
Did African Explorers Civilise Ancient Europe?Book Overview and Interview by Minister Faust
NEXT TIME YOU FEEL like starting a blood feud, go to a Classics lecture on any American campus or to any American publishing house and say the following: "Egypt was a Black civilisation. And it conquered and civilised Greece."
As amply demonstrated by the growth industry in anti-Afrocentric publishing, North America's racially-poisoned debates about nearly everything have made the discussion of the racial identity of a people from six thousand years ago almost as vicious as the fight over Kosovo soil.
Why the controversy? Because of what Martin Bernal, author of Black Athena: The Afroasiatic Roots of Classical Civilisation, described as the contest between the Ancient Model vs. the Aryan Model of ancient Greece and Egypt. The ancient Greek made it clear that Egypt was their instructor and inspiration for nearly all the aspects of their civilisation; Europe believed this ancient testimony up until the age of imperialism. At that point it became morally and intellectually unfeasible to consider that those who were becoming the victims of the Slave Holocaust and the growing White world supremacy could be the grandfathers of European civilisation itself. And the racism necessary to justify that conquest was never defeated--even after the Nazis who were inspired by the same historical revisionism--were.
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Enter Richard Poe, author of the controversial Black Spark, White Fire: Did African Explorers Civilise Ancient Europe?, a book whose trials of publication are almost as stunning as its revelations about the ancient world. Racial revisionism aside, why should anybody care about Ancient Egypt to begin with, given the glories and crises of modernity?
"For those of us who love history, we don't even need to ask the question,"says Poe...
But on the racial issues, Poe is clear that the Whitened history of the last three hundred years needs to be overturned... "There are many lessons to be learned from the past, about the races of mankind and the relationships they've had with each other over time and which have changed very drastically. We live in a time when if you look at a snapshot of the world over the last four or five hundred years, the European race has been preeminent in the world, and has dominated everybody else economically and militarily.
"But if you go back earlier in time, you see that that's not the way it's always been. Black Spark, White Fire goes back to a time when Africa was the preeminent power on land and sea, and in particular, the nation of Egypt. If you go through a conventional education today, I guess you learn about Egypt, but somehow the message isn't really drummed in that these were an African people and that they lived so many thousands of years before the Golden Age of Greece" and its highly developed civilisation.
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So, Poe must be an angry Black writer with an Afrocentric spear to sharpen, right? The kind who wants nothing more than to smear and destroy the European canon?
Hardly. Poe is an award-winning American journalist, part Russian Jew, part Mexican, and best-selling author.
"I'm definitely not one of these types who abound in academic settings -- White liberals afflicted with 'White guilt' -- and feel they have to atone for the sins of their ancestors by beating up on Europe and themselves," clarifies Poe. "I'm not inclined to be that sort of person by nature, and I don't believe people who behave like that anyway."
"I don't think they're sincere. A person who doesn't respect himself and his own heritage can't really respect anyone else's. My advice to everyone out there is, look out for those White liberals." ...Some academics didn't want to touch the issue--as Poe makes clear, established academics are sometimes professionally and personally vicious enough to young mavericks to destroy their careers; perhaps only a journalist, argues Poe, has the freedom to write such a book.
Neither White liberal nor Black radical, Poe is also unlike many Afrocentric Egyptologists in that he doesn't regard the Greeks as mere historical plagiarists of greater, more ancient Egyptian genius. He is concerned neither with racial solidarity nor a political-academic
agenda--his sole concern seems to be the truth, hence his sacrifices.
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"No person is your friend who demands your silence, or denies your right to grow." - Alice Walker
[This message was edited by Nmaginate on June 01, 2003 at 07:49 AM.]
Yes Afro man that was a good response. You must have been around the block a few times to come up with that conclusion. I used to work in a packinghouse here in Omaha. I can tell you one thing, a good part of the Caucasian people thought that a lot of us black people were just as we were on TV. Why because they allowed the media to brainwash them. 
