quote:Originally posted by OhBlackButterfly:
Sister Oshun, notice there isn't as nearly as much controversy over hair in the brother's discussion about hair style choices. Oh the brothers are over there, chattin' it up, and happily posting pictures of themselves looking and feeling stress free and worry free. Get into the Sista's Spot, and here we go with the drama, shame, and condemnation.
Africa/Black women suffer racial AND gender oppression. Hence the difference in behavior(how many brothers wear perms now a days?) We also live in a patriarchal society where a woman's value is based more on her physical appearance(and it's proximity to the Euro standard).
quote:I understand and can relate to both sides of the argument, however. And because I try to seek balance in a discussion, I'm not able to take one position over another. But I will make the observation that because it is socially acceptable for women to grow their hair at length, we carry the heaviest burden in terms of people expecting us to use our hair to make a political statement. Men have the choice to either keep their hair closely shaven or bald, and no one can readily determine or question the status of their consciousness (lucky them). A Black woman, on the other hand, gets a perm, and BAM!, she's an ignorant sellout. Later on, she decides to sport a fro, and WHAMO! she's credited for being pro-Black. It seems to me that women tend to be their own worst enemies.[QUOTE]
Who said a woman is a sellout for having a perm? If anything Rowe has eloquantly stated, and I agree with, the PRESSURE on a African/Black woman to change her hair phenotype to fit in with the western beauty standard is GREATER than that on males... and some succumb(understandably) particularly when they aren't consciously aware of the pressures on them. Nobody called a woman wearing a perm a sell-out, and nobody said that natural hair meant 'automatic consciousness'... In fact I said quite the opposite. If you would stop projecting, you may have realized you READ that.
[quote]~True, Rowe. 'Seems that way, doesn't it? And the very fact that it is a non-issue with the men, as well as with the native African woman speaks volumes. It shouldn't be an issue with African-American women, either.
I've been to Africa(four countries) In Africa hair and skin are a huge ISSUE. Colonialism and neo-colonialism/western/Amerikkkan imperialism are major issues, particularly when it comes to women. Bleaching and perming/weaving are issues... big issues. To discourage it in Ghana they do not allow the school girls to perm their hair until they graduate form 4(what we would refer to as high school). Arab and European imperialism has caused many of the same issues as here, some are even worse. Women burn and ruin their skin, scaring themselves for life by bleaching so they can be lighter and therefore 'more beautiful'. Patriarchal white supremacy is GLOBAL.
quote:And I have absolute faith that had Madame Walker never laid an eye on a stringy-haired white woman, she would have STILL been creative enough to develop a hair care system for us. We know no bounds when it comes to hair creations, be it during Ancient Egyptian times to this VERY DAY. White women as muse and sole inspiration waaaaaaaaay back THEN or NOW for our creativity? Please! Whoever wants to own that untruth is free to do so, though. *shudder* But, they need to get a clue.~
Please give ONE example before colonialism(Arab and/or European) and slavery where African women in any society straightened their hair and/or added Asian hair to their head coincidentally with the outcome looking like Europeans and Arabs THAT THEY NEVER HAD CONTACT WITH.
I wouldn't be surprised if Maddame CJ walker would have came up with a hair care system like so many of the traditional herbalists from Africa have... But it's goal wouldn't have been to straighten and de-Africanize the hair.
Your denial is astounding. You just aren't comfortable dealing with global white supremacy(for whatever reason)... and your comments about continental African women makes me wonder if you even understand it.