Peace....



Elijah Muhammad taught that a group of Black skinned, straight haired people living in the Arabian Peninsula migrated to the Greek Isles and through a process of birth control and sexual selection produced a race of Albinos. He began teaching this idea in the 1930's.

According to Mr. Muhammad, the Genetic and phenotypical transition took 600 years to complete. According to Mr. Muhammad's writings, the Original stock was inherently genetically polymophic, thus by the process of sexual selection white people were not physically "created" they were instead extracted.


Mr. Muhammad taught that Black North Africans, and Asians, were physically distinct from the Sub-Saharan African due to climatic conditions and other environmental factors. He was specific in assigning the selective process which led to the appearance of the caucasian to Northern Blacks..Not to the Sub-Saharan African.

Mr. Muhammad describes someone similiar (but darker) to the man in the middle of this photo:





The term "Caucasian" seems to have originated with Freidrich Blumenbach, a 19th century Anthropologist who determined race based on certain physiological traits. Blumenbach gathered and compiled various anthropometric measurements of different groups, and then made racial classifications based on simularities in size of things such as the cranium of a specific group.

Caucasians were linked to the ancient Dravidians, black people of the ancient Indus Valley which is also within the Aryan region.

If you watch the video below, you will notice how strikingly similiar white people are to East Indian Albinos..See for yourself..

Was Mr. Muhammad right?


Video for visula effect



Whirling Moat

"Your Comfort zone is your enemies hunting ground" -Unknown

 

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I think genetic self selection could occur. But wouldn't there be historical records to document it? Or how long are we talking about it took to get from dark straight haired to white?
Originally posted Whiriling Moat
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Caucasians were linked to the ancient Dravidians, black people of the ancient Indus Valley which is also within the Aryan region.

If you watch the video below, you will notice how strikingly similiar white people are to East Indian Albinos..See for yourself..

Was Mr. Muhammad right?



fro I heard this theory before. The word causian.....caucus[mountain] asian[asia]. Also it has bee notated that those from India migrated from Africa after the division of the Panagea or a little before[I forget which]. This is why Indian people are so dark and practice the caste system. Their goal is to be as light as the gods they worship. Many will disagree however....but! If you look at the dynamics of the Indian people....if you look at the original budhha[sp]...his coiled hair: African. But those are FIGHTING words.....Indians just like Arabs [semites] do not want to under any circumstances be associated with any thing BLACK i.e. African/slave....even though their skin color indicate otherwise. Is Muhammad right? All one has to do is look at the dark Indian's skin color....and draw to your own conclusionfro
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Originally posted by urbansun:
I think genetic self selection could occur. But wouldn't there be historical records to document it? Or how long are we talking about it took to get from dark straight haired to white?
A better question is where did dark strait haired people come from that they are farther away from Africa than light skinned curly haired people.

Or an even better question where did Chinese people come from?

Even better what different does it make?
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Originally posted by Wiz:
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Even better what different does it make?

daz
The difference it makes, my brotha, is that if you overstand the true origins of the devil, you overstand his true wicked nature. This, in turn, prepares you, the original supreme Asiatic black man, for 1) dealing with the wicked ways of this grafted menace to the black man and 2) for the part you would play in helping to eradicate the devil from our midst. Only true knowledge empowers the cypher -- Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head -- the 360 degree circle of completion, which, as you know, consists of the original man you are -- with the power to reclaim your position over the grafted, forked-tongue devil. Peace my brother.
Peace...

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I heard this theory before. The word causian.....caucus[mountain] asian[asia]. Also it has bee notated that those from India migrated from Africa after the division of the Panagea or a little before[I forget which]. This is why Indian people are so dark and practice the caste system. Their goal is to be as light as the gods they worship. Many will disagree however....but! If you look at the dynamics of the Indian people....if you look at the original budhha[sp]...his coiled hair: African. But those are FIGHTING words.....Indians just like Arabs [semites] do not want to under any circumstances be associated with any thing BLACK i.e. African/slave....even though their skin color indicate otherwise. Is Muhammad right? All one has to do is look at the dark Indian's skin color....and draw to your own conclusion


The invading Aryan hordes of 2,000 B.C.instilled this self hatred into the Dravidian people of the ancient indian world.
The invaders robbed the Dravidian of his heritage and claimed it as their own, and then injected the caset system into the land based on colorism. This history is very interesting in light of Mr. Muhammad's teaching as it relates to the origin of racism.

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Even better what different does it make?




Awwww shucks..Maybe I should peppered my post with "Obama" and then he would have found it relevant to black people...


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The difference it makes, my brotha, is that if you overstand the true origins of the devil, you overstand his true wicked nature. This, in turn, prepares you, the original supreme Asiatic black man, for 1) dealing with the wicked ways of this grafted menace to the black man and 2) for the part you would play in helping to eradicate the devil from our midst. Only true knowledge empowers the cypher -- Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head -- the 360 degree circle of completion, which, as you know, consists of the original man you are -- with the power to reclaim your position over the grafted, forked-tongue devil. Peace my brother.



Pretty good, but you gave yourself away in a few areas..The Bryant Gumbleness crept through in a few spots..


maybe you try rolling your r's or something..I don't know...


Whirling Moat
Originally posted by Whirling Moat
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The invading Aryan hordes of 2,000 B.C.binstilled this self hatred into the Dravidian people of the ancient indian world.
The invaders robbed the Dravidian of his heritage and claimed it as their own, and then injected the caset system into the land based on colorism. This history is very interesting in light of Mr. Muhammad's teaching as it relates to the origin of racism.



fro When it comes down to it...it's all matter of whom invaded whom. Which is typical behavior for those seeking to dominate. It had to be skin color....otherwise what would be the distinction? So. They thought about it for awhile....cuz those aryans....well they're NOT the smartest....as a matter of fact, historically it was not the matter of being SMART as much as it was to be most BARBARIC and violent. Usually folks who can grow their own food, have a roof over their heads and generally are intune to the universe and have a respect for process of life....they don't have a NEED to be vicious or brutal or ruthless. On the other hand, those who have to really LOOK for food and SHELTER cuz it ALWAYS cold do not have the natural cognitive ability to think and reason....these folks use the most conduct to overcome those who are reasonable....as is the history of European MAN.

In addition, I have found individuals from Europe especially are the ones to traditionally conduct this type of behavior....and is why I am not SURPRISED at the findings...but! This is old news. For the behavior of the European has yet to change in modern day..it still exist. It just has a dual name called racism/self hate. fro
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Originally posted by Whirling Moat:
Peace...

[ racism.

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Even better what different does it make?




Awwww shucks..Maybe I should peppered my post with "Obama" and then he would have found it relevant to black people...


Whirling Moat

It would have made more sense if you peppered it with pepper.
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Originally posted by Whirling Moat:
Peace...


The Bryant Gumbleness crept through in a few spots..



i don't know why but that was funny as heck lol The bryant gumbleness...aha haha 20 20...I gotta use that lol
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by Wiz:
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Even better what different does it make?

daz
The difference it makes, my brotha, is that if you overstand the true origins of the devil, you overstand his true wicked nature. This, in turn, prepares you, the original supreme Asiatic black man, for 1) dealing with the wicked ways of this grafted menace to the black man and 2) for the part you would play in helping to eradicate the devil from our midst. Only true knowledge empowers the cypher -- Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head -- the 360 degree circle of completion, which, as you know, consists of the original man you are -- with the power to reclaim your position over the grafted, forked-tongue devil. Peace my brother.

laugh 20
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Originally posted by Whirling Moat:
Peace...


Pretty good, but you gave yourself away in a few areas..The Bryant Gumbleness crept through in a few spots..
I thought it was pretty funny, actually... But "Bryant Gumbelness" was funny too, I'll give u that...
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Originally posted by Whirling Moat:
Peace...

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I heard this theory before. The word causian.....caucus[mountain] asian[asia]. Also it has bee notated that those from India migrated from Africa after the division of the Panagea or a little before[I forget which]. This is why Indian people are so dark and practice the caste system. Their goal is to be as light as the gods they worship. Many will disagree however....but! If you look at the dynamics of the Indian people....if you look at the original budhha[sp]...his coiled hair: African. But those are FIGHTING words.....Indians just like Arabs [semites] do not want to under any circumstances be associated with any thing BLACK i.e. African/slave....even though their skin color indicate otherwise. Is Muhammad right? All one has to do is look at the dark Indian's skin color....and draw to your own conclusion


The invading Aryan hordes of 2,000 B.C.instilled this self hatred into the Dravidian people of the ancient indian world.
The invaders robbed the Dravidian of his heritage and claimed it as their own, and then injected the caset system into the land based on colorism. This history is very interesting in light of Mr. Muhammad's teaching as it relates to the origin of racism.


Ok, I'm confused... Were the invading Aryan hordes(a history I am familiar with) supposed to be basically the 'returning' albinized Dravidians?

The Indians (used in the video are phenotypically a mixture of Dravidian and those exact invading Aryans... The Aryans, like many of their progeny, the Northern Indiam castes in the video (Brahmans, Kshatriyas, & Vaishyas), have a 'European' look, to varying degrees(hence their higher caste)...

Aren't you using the mixed offspring to prove the theory that their parents originated 'from them'? That doesn't make sense... The unmixed 'tribal' Dravidians of the South(Check Runoko Rashidi's sight for examples) do not have the European phenotype and look much like the Australian aboriginal... Sub-Saharan African with straighter hair... That look Albinized looks nothing like a European... Neither do the Dalits... not even the Shudras..

So how could the Aryans be the albinized offspring of the 'origial' folk of the Indus valley? Of course those people that are alread of mixed Aryan blood if Albinized are gona look like their fathers... Confused
Peace....



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Ok, I'm confused... Were the invading Aryan hordes(a history I am familiar with) supposed to be basically the 'returning' albinized Dravidians?


Not necessarily. Elijah Muhammad claims that there was a mass exodus from Arabia, not Harrapa or Mohenjo Daro. I provided the photo of the Indian man simply to provide the reader with a visual aid which approximates what he meant when he spoke of a black person from the North of Africa, or Asia during that time period. Now, I will say that there was a cultural unity of sorts between the ancient kingdoms occupied by the Dravidian and the various kingdoms of North Africa, including KMT. I do believe that phenotypically, the people of this entire region would have appeared very similiar to one another..Of course their would be some variations, but nothing material.

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The Indians (used in the video are phenotypically a mixture of Dravidian and those exact invading Aryans... The Aryans, like many of their progeny, the Northern Indiam castes in the video (Brahmans, Kshatriyas, & Vaishyas), have a 'European' look, to varying degrees(hence their higher caste)...


The Dalits, or "Untouchables" are not genectically distinct from those of higher caste..they are just darker..The groups within the caste system was called "varna" which translates to mean "color". The stratification was designed to separate the dark black from the lighter and so forth....

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Aren't you using the mixed offspring to prove the theory that their parents originated 'from them'? That doesn't make sense... The unmixed 'tribal' Dravidians of the South(Check Runoko Rashidi's sight for examples) do not have the European phenotype and look much like the Australian aboriginal... Sub-Saharan African with straighter hair... That look Albinized looks nothing like a European... Neither do the Dalits... not even the Shudras..


Well, once again, several studies were conducted to provide scientific justification for the caste arrangement. What was determined was that was no significant variant besides color of the northern higher caste Brahmans, Kshatriyas, & Vaishyas from lower caste Dalit- Shudras. Now of course the introduction of the Aryan strain did provide some genetic diversity, however, according to what I have studied the Aryan injection provided for a significant change in color yet did not structurally change the other dominant features of the Dravidian in any significant way.

Runoko Rashidi and Professor Cheikh Anta Diop spoke to this:

The term "Dravidian," however, encompasses both an ethnic group and a linguistic group. The ethnic group is characterized by straight to wavy hair textures, combined with Africoid physical features. -Runoko Rashidi


"There are two well-defined Black races: one has a black skin and woolly hair; the other also has black skin, often exceptionally black, with straight hair, aquiline nose, thin lips, an acute cheekbone angle. We find a prototype of this race in India: the Dravidian. It is also known that certain Nubians likewise belong to the same Negro type...."-Professor Diop

I think it is well established by our own scholars that the straight hair, aqualine nose, and thin lip features of our people is just as ancient and "black", as broad noses, lips and woolly hair.

Those who argue against the afrocentric worldview have discovered this aspect of our past and have tried to hijack our history arguing that Northern Kingdoms and asiatic blacks were more caucasian than black due to structural similiarities with whites..In making this argument they simply confirm Mr. Muhammad's teaching..


Wiz wrote:
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It would have made more sense if you peppered it with pepper.




You know what Bruh...don't even stress yourself about it..Maybe one of the other posters will tuck you in...shhh..I'll hit the lights..



Whirling Moat
These people have thin lips, aquiline noses and are just 'darker' than the other Indian castes?

I know about 'varna'... but I also think there are many other aspects... These people look like the Africanoid facial features present in many ancient Indian and other East Asian artifacts... They are not the North/African & Dalit Aquiline looking folk that also exist...





Originally posted by Whirling Moat:
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Elijah Muhammad claims that there was a mass exodus from Arabia, not Harrapa or Mohenjo Daro.



fro Question! Do you have other references besides the Honorable Elijah Muhammad? Or...are your full acceptance on this analogy is based totally on his theory ONLY?fro
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Originally posted by Whirling Moat:
Elijah Muhammad taught that a group of Black skinned, straight haired people living in the Arabian Peninsula migrated to the Greek Isles and through a process of birth control and sexual selection produced a race of Albinos. He began teaching this idea in the 1930's.

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Mr. Muhammad taught that Black North Africans, and Asians, were physically distinct from the Sub-Saharan African due to climatic conditions and other environmental factors. He was specific in assigning the selective process which led to the appearance of the caucasian to Northern Blacks..Not to the Sub-Saharan African.
I thought that this belief system has it that African-Americans are descended from the original man. But you're saying that Elijah Muhammad said the "Asiatic" North African black man was distinct from the Sub-Saharan. We are descended from Sub-Saharan Africans. What, then, is our relationship with this "Asiatic" black man?
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Originally posted by Vox:
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Originally posted by Whirling Moat:
Elijah Muhammad taught that a group of Black skinned, straight haired people living in the Arabian Peninsula migrated to the Greek Isles and through a process of birth control and sexual selection produced a race of Albinos. He began teaching this idea in the 1930's.

...


Mr. Muhammad taught that Black North Africans, and Asians, were physically distinct from the Sub-Saharan African due to climatic conditions and other environmental factors. He was specific in assigning the selective process which led to the appearance of the caucasian to Northern Blacks..Not to the Sub-Saharan African.
I thought that this belief system has it that African-Americans are descended from the original man. But you're saying that Elijah Muhammad said the "Asiatic" North African black man was distinct from the Sub-Saharan. We are descended from Sub-Saharan Africans. What, then, is our relationship with this "Asiatic" black man?


19 munch I smell a similar convo brewing that I had with a Moorish brother a while back, but I'm sure this one will have a different 'twist'...
All I know is that as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing on this earth that the Creator didn't create. Every soul came from its Creator. No one ever "bred" a child of God.

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