ATLANTA — Two men have filed a lawsuit accusing Bishop Eddie Long of exploiting his role as pastor of an Atlanta-area megachurch to coerce them into sexual relationships when they were young members of his congregation.

Lawyers for the men, now 20 and 21, say they filed the lawsuit on Tuesday in DeKalb County Court. The Associated Press generally does not identify people who say they were victims of sexual impropriety.

Craig Gillen, Long's attorney, said Tuesday the pastor "categorically denies the allegations."

"We find it unfortunate that these two young men would take this course of action," Gillen said, adding that Long had not yet been served with copies of the lawsuits.

The men were 17- and 18-year-old members of Long's New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, when they say Long abused his spiritual authority to seduce them with with cars, money, clothes, jewelry, international trips and access to celebrities.

B.J. Bernstein, an attorney representing the plaintiffs, said that when the relationships started, the plaintiffs were past the legal age of consent in Georgia, which is 15.

"Defendant Long has utilized his spiritual authority to coerce certain young male members ... into engaging in sexual acts and relationships for his own personal sexual grafitication," the lawsuits read.

When asked about a possible motive for the accusations, Gillen referred to a break-in at Long's office in June.

Bergstein said one of the plaintiffs is facing a criminal burglary charge in the incident. She said the break-in was a way of lashing out at Long.


Bernstein said she contacted the U.S. Attorney's Office earlier this month when she became aware of the young men's allegations. She did not know what action, if any, the agency planned to take.

Orzy Theus, a spokesman for the DeKalb County district attorney's office, said she was not aware on Tuesday of an investigation in that office related to the allegations.

Long was appointed pastor of New Birth in 1987. Then, the church had about 150 members. Less than four years later, the church had grown to more than 8,000 members, many of whom reside in DeKalb County, home to many affluent African-Americans. Athletes and entertainers claim membership at the church, and among its prominent clergy is the Rev. Bernice King, the youngest daughter of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

Today, New Birth sits on 250 acres and has more than 25,000 members, a $50 million, 10,000-seat cathedral and more than 40 ministries – including the Longfellows Youth Academy, a tuition-based program for young men 13 to 18.



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I remember when I first saw this clown  on TV years ago. I said to myself, WTF!

He was dressed in a zoot suit, his hair was Jherri-curled, he talked like an ex-con, and he wore more jewelry than a Harlem pimp.

That was the point in my life where I became an atheist and started dating white women.
1st thought: The song "Another one Bites the Dust".
2nd thought: How will the bougie sanctified members of my family who feel sanctified folks can do no wrong defend this boob if the accusations are true.
3rd thought: Will the media play this up or let it die down ala the Catholic church perverts.
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2nd thought: How will the bougie sanctified members of my family who feel sanctified folks can do no wrong defend this boob if the accusations are true.

That was my 2nd thought, too.    For all of our people who were ensnared by the false hope of salvation through the White man's version of Christianity.  So many things he did for us "for our own good" have not worked out in our favor. 

But my 1st thought was .... that the estimated number of homosexuals, at least in this country, must be grossly under-counted.  They're probably only counting those that are willing to be acknowledged.
Back in history, when they were persecuting homosexuals....the church said we will take them.  This was centuries ago.  Fastforward.....many priests have been hiding their sexuality every since.   We don't how many children from that point have been sexually molested by closet homosexuals who hide behind the church.  Sounds to me like a good ole boys club.   I have always wondered how can there sooooooo many gay guys in church.  Even though God does not judge....but!  How come?  And the law of nature says[especially if you're hetersexual or just human]....unless something physically wrong with you, once you matured, your body MUST have sex.  It's natural.  Don't care what your mind says.  Your body is gonna respond to what is NATURAL for it to respond to.  Even if those church folks say that celebracy is your marriage to God.  Your body says otherwise and is why soooooooooo many people struggle with their sexuality until something terrible is exposed.  I remember when they had the scandal about the nuns who had buried their babies behind the church.  For years this was covered up.  And who were the fathers of these aborted children?  Guess!  So for me the bottom line, we are ALL humans who did not create this WORLD.  So why do we think we can have control over something that was here before us?  Especially if it's natural.  We are NOT above our maker....whomever that is....the difference between us and animals....we have the ability to think...but!  That thinking for many who are spiritually arrogant about self-power has gotten in a lot of trouble over the years....but!  I'm just sayin and with this latest church event....am NOT surprised in the least.    
Let's not convict this preacher just yet.  He may be guilty, but for the time being he's vehemently denying it. 

But regardless, here's the thing that gets me: Whether his accusers are lying or not, what does this say about church and religion?  On the one hand, if it's true, then you've got a big-time pastor "coercing" young guys into having sex with him.  But on the other hand, if it's NOT true, then you've got young (and presumably impressionable) members of the church, under this guy's guidance, who definitely spent a lot of private time with him.  If they are lying, then all of this guy's supposed godly, divine influence apparently failed to rub off on them.  Either way, it really just highlights one more reason why people need to stop wasting their time (and money!!!) with that stuff.
Third lawsuit filed against Atlanta pastor Eddie Long.


A third lawsuit has been filed against Atlanta-based megachurch pastor Eddie Long, alleging coercion, deception and manipulation that involved a sexual relationship with a young male, CNN has learned.

Through a spokesman earlier on Tuesday, Long denied similar allegations in two other lawsuits filed over the past two days.

"We categorically deny the allegations," he said. "It is very unfortunate that someone has taken this course of action. Our law firm will be able to respond once attorneys have had an opportunity to review the lawsuit."



Attorney: Atlanta pastor groomed young men for sex.


Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) -- Another civil suit has been filed against Atlanta-based megachurch pastor Eddie Long, alleging coercion, negligence and fraud that involved a sexual relationship with a third young male, CNN has learned.

Through a spokesman, Long on Tuesday denied similar allegations in two other lawsuits by two men.

Long will hold a news conference Thursday morning, spokesman Art Franklin said.

Wednesday's lawsuit, filed in DeKalb County, Georgia, State Court, was brought on behalf of Jamal Parris, now 23, who was a teenager at the time of the allegations.


The suit also names the church as a defendant. CNN is trying to reach Long's spokesman for comment.

Allegations that Long coerced two young male church members and employees into sex are "a case of retaliation and a shakedown for money by men with some serious credibility issues," the pastor's spokesman told CNN on Wednesday.

Pastor Eddie Long "categorically and adamantly denies these allegations," spokesman Art Franklin said. "There's been a lot of chatter since yesterday, but these complaints that have been filed are definitely without merit."

The lawsuits filed Tuesday in DeKalb County allege that Long used his position as a spiritual authority and bishop to coerce young male members and employees of his New Birth Missionary Baptist Church into sex. CNN was the first to report on the lawsuits.

"Defendant Long has a pattern and practice of singling out a select group of young male church members and using his authority as Bishop over them to ultimately bring them to a point of engaging in a sexual relationship," the suits allege.

Long is considered one of the nation's top African-American preachers. His church has more 25,000 members, according to the suit, and was the site of Coretta Scott King's 2006 funeral, attended by then-President George W. Bush and three

former presidents. King was the widow of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

One of the men, Anthony Flagg, 21, alleges in his suit that Long took him on overnight trips to a half-dozen American cities in recent years.

"Long shared a bedroom and engaged in intimate sexual contact with plaintiff Flagg including kissing, massaging, masturbating of plaintiff Flagg by defendant Long and oral sexual contact," the suit says.

The other man, Maurice Murray Robinson, 20, claims Long took him to Auckland, New Zealand, in October 2008 for his 19th birthday and engaged in oral sex with him, Robinson's suit alleges.

"Following the New Zealand trip, defendant Long regularly engaged in sexual touching, and other sexual acts with plaintiff Robinson," Robinson's suit alleges.



Attorney B.J. Bernstein, who represents both Flagg and Robinson, said Wednesday that the youths' accounts are "really strong."

She said she has worked with sexual abuse victims and finds the two believable because of "the emotion. The intensity. The very strong description of what sexual acts occurred. ... This is not just someone giving a vague thing, 'Oh, yeah, one time he did this,' or a couple of times."

But Franklin told CNN's "American Morning" on Wednesday that the two men "are not innocent victims" and that they have known "the wrong side of the law" before, including being charged with breaking into Long's office in June to steal items, such as jewelry, that could be sold for cash.

"Let your viewers be the judge of their actions," Franklin said.

In June, Robinson was arrested and charged with burglary in connection with a break-in at Long's office. An iPhone, iPad and other items -- more than $1,300 worth -- were taken from the office, according to the police report. Bernstein said Wednesday that about $100,000 worth of items were taken, including black diamonds.

On Tuesday, Bernstein said the theft was Robinson's attempt to retaliate against the pastor. She said that once Robinson began telling others about his experience with Long, "he realized he wasn't the only one."

"It made [Robinson] angry," she said.

She said Wednesday that Robinson's anger also stemmed from a May incident in which he sought comfort and solace from Long and instead was the target of a sexual advance. That "created a frenzy inside him," she said.

Franklin told CNN's John Roberts, "This is actually, John, a case of retaliation and a shakedown for money by men with some serious credibility issues trying to mount their own defense. This is something that went from 48 hours of contact with the attorney flinging outrageous demands to this dog-and-pony show we are seeing."

Asked about the relationship between Long and the young men, Franklin said that both were part of the LongFellows program at the church.

The suit describes Long's LongFellows Youth Academy as an offshoot of New Birth. According to its website, the group's vision is to "love, live and lead. We successfully meet the demanding needs of young men through a vigorous Rites of Passage Curriculum that helps young men realize their hidden potential and discover their masculine heart."

Franklin said that both Robinson and Flagg were among many young people employed by the church. Asked whether they ever traveled with Long, he said a number of people travel with him.

On whether the two youths ever shared a room with Long, Franklin said, "That is one of the allegations that we learned through the media that's being made by the attorneys and something our defense team will have to respond to.

"We have not even seen the lawsuit ourselves," he said. "That's something our attorneys will have to go through."

On the reaction from Long's congregation, Franklin said, "Last night, it was a very spirit-filled worship service from a church family that loves its spiritual leader very much." He said Long is drawing strength from his family, the New Birth family and other supporters.

"Before rushing to any judgment on Bishop Long and this court of public opinion taking place right now, I really do hope you will look at these guys that are throwing the mud and consider the source," he said.

Asked how she can prove that sexual contact took place, Bernstein said, "I am ready to put them under oath. Bishop Long can spend money on the best attorneys in this world, and they can question those young men, and then I'll get to question the bishop, and then we'll really see what's going on."

She said she will subpoena records of an "excessive number of phone calls" between Long and the young men, along with e-mails, credit card receipts and other items. Bernstein said she had alerted federal authorities about the situation.

Long frequently denounces homosexual behavior. A 2007 article in the Southern Poverty Law Center's magazine called him "one of the most virulently homophobic black leaders in the religiously based anti-gay movement."

Both plaintiffs said the pastor, his church and church employees gave them cash and lavish gifts that ranged from cars to college tuition.

The suits also said that Long framed the sexual relationships as religious in nature.

"They were groomed for it, from 14 to 17 years old," Bernstein said Wednesday. "He gets to know them and gets the trust, and then bit by bit -- first it's a hug. It's just like any sexual predator. Or we're sitting watching the football game, and you put your legs up on their lap ... One of the boys described going to the gym, 'Can you massage my neck?' and then there's another massage, and it just slowly breaks down. Ask any victim of sexual abuse. It is a progression."

The suits allege that Long chose the plaintiffs to be his "Spiritual Sons," a program that allegedly includes other young men from the church.

"Spiritual Sons are taken on public and private jets to U.S. and international destinations, housed in luxury hotels and given access to numerous celebrities including entertainment stars and politicians," the suit alleges.

Flagg moved into a home owned by another New Birth pastor when he was a high school junior, according to the suit, where Long would sometimes share a bed with him. Flagg was eventually put on the church's payroll, his suit alleges, with Long personally delivering his checks.

Flagg's suit says that Long presided over a spiritual "covenant" ceremony between the two of them.

"It was essentially a marriage ceremony, with candles, exchange of jewelry and biblical quotes," Bernstein said Tuesday. "The bishop [told] him 'I will always have your back, and you will always have mine.' "

The families of both young men moved to Georgia in order to join Long's church, she said Wednesday.

Robinson's suit alleges that "Defendant Long would use Holy Scripture to discuss and justify the intimate relationship between himself and Plaintiff Robinson."

The lawsuits are seeking unspecified amounts of punitive damages from Long on various counts, ranging from negligence to breach of fiduciary duty.

The suits allege that various staff members working for Long, his church and the LongFellows Academy "knew of Defendant Long's sexually inappropriate conduct and did nothing to warn or protect [the plaintiffs]."

Bernstein said her office is looking into allegations made by others who are afraid to come forward publicly.

She said she warned the young men they would be "crucified" for making the allegations, "and they just said, 'We have to do it, and we know there are others.' "


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Accused pastor crusaded against homosexuals.


Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) -- As Bishop Eddie Long poked through a salad in his church office one summer day in 1999, he shot a weary look at a person ticking off his ministry's successes.

His Atlanta megachurch had already reached 25,000 members. He had been invited to the White House, built a global television ministry and drove around town in a $350,000 Bentley.

But Long told the visitor who had come to write about him that the pressures of being a high-profile pastor could be brutal.

"You don't want any of this," he said in a raspy baritone as he shook his head. "You don't want any of this ..."


Long didn't get more specific about those pressures.

Today, the 57-year-old minister, known for his public crusades against homosexuality, faces serious allegations.

On Tuesday, two young men who were members of Long's New Birth Missionary Baptist Church filed lawsuits claiming he used his position as their spiritual counselor to coerce them into sexual relationships.

See PDF of lawsuit filed by Maurice Robinson

The men -- Anthony Flagg, 21, and Maurice Robinson, 20 -- allege Long used a private spiritual ceremony to mark a "covenant" between them, with both becoming his "spiritual son."

See PDF of lawsuit filed by Anthony Flagg

Flagg alleges that Long then used that relationship to take him on overnight trips where they shared a bedroom and engaged in kissing, masturbation and "oral sexual contact."

Robinson, who claimed Long engaged in oral sex with him, said the pastor would cite Scripture to justify their relationship.

"We categorically deny the allegations," Art Franklin, Long's spokesman, said in a written statement. "It is very unfortunate that someone has taken this course of action."

Franklin said "our law firm will be able to respond once attorneys have had an opportunity to review the lawsuit."

The men's lawyer, Brenda Joy (B.J.) Bernstein, would not make them available for comment.

Long's crusades against homosexuality

The allegations against Long run contrary to his public image.

He is a celebrity preacher in the black church world and a star in the evangelical world as well. His church is one of the largest in the country.

In the pulpit, Long seamlessly blends muscle and ministry.

He wears tight shirts that display his weight-lifter arms. He writes books such as "Gladiator, the Strength of a Man," that teach men how to be warriors for God. He says he has a special calling to reach out to men.


He's a married man who preaches about the sanctity of the union between a man and a woman. He denounces homosexuality. In 2004, he led a march in Atlanta against gay marriage. He once declared that his church had created a ministry that "delivered" people from homosexuality.

His public statements about gays and lesbians have helped reinforce homophobia in the black church, says Shayne Lee, a sociologist and author of "Holy Mavericks: Evangelical Innovators and the Spiritual Marketplace."

"The homophobic atmosphere he helped perpetuate," Lee said, could "come back to possibly harm him."

Long's controversial ministry

Long has been the center of public controversy before.

In 2005, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that a charity Long created to help the poor and spread the Gospel had made him its biggest beneficiary.

An examination of the nonprofit's tax returns and other documents revealed that the charity provided him with at least a million dollars in salary over four years, and the use of a $1.4 million home and the $350,000 Bentley.

A frequent critic of black preachers (he once said they "major in storefront churches"), Long responded by saying he was a CEO of a global business who deserved his lifestyle.


"You've got to put me on a different scale than the little black preacher sitting over there that's supposed to be just getting by because the people are suffering," Long said, explaining the compensation he received from his charity.

In 2007, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, of the Senate Finance Committee, sent a letter to Long asking detailed questions about his financial operations. Long was one of six televangelists whom Grassley targeted.

After an initial flurry of publicity following Grassley's request, the investigation appeared to peter out.

Read more stories about faith on CNN's Belief Blog

In recent years, Long seemed to become more humble, says the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta.

In private talks, McDonald said, Long told him about the pressures of leading a megachurch. He said he no longer had as many close friendships and yearned to return to the more intimate relationships that McDonald seemed to have with his much smaller congregation.

"He said, 'Tim, I may have the numbers, but you have the love,' '' McDonald said.

God's 'scarred leader'

For all his outward confidence, Long also displayed a vulnerable side.

He built an intimate bond with many members of his church by talking about his private failings: his divorce from his first wife; being rejected by his father; and being fired from a job in corporate America.

He called himself God's "scarred leader."

He also became known for his generosity. He would give out cars and money to strangers at church services. He built ministries to help the poor, AIDS patients and young people.

He talked proudly about his ability to reach young men. He called himself a "spiritual daddy" to many of the young men he mentored at New Birth.

He would pay the college tuition for some men, give business suits to others and play basketball and lift weights with his male ministers.

Once, he even boasted to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that some mothers at New Birth trusted him enough to bring their wayward teenage boys to him for paddling.

"When I say bend over, even on Sunday, they bend over," he said, referring to the boys he paddled. "Why? Because they respect me. Because I first died for them ..."

The two men who filed suit against Long, though, said he used their relationships to instruct them, as "spiritual sons," to follow their "master."

They also say Long enticed them "with cars, clothes, jewelry, and electronics." Robinson claims the pastor paid for his college tuition.

In Flagg's suit, he claimed that when some young men found girlfriends, Long would attempt to block those relationships by "increased contact and spiritual talk" about "the covenant between the Spiritual Son and himself."

In addition to Long, the lawsuits name as defendants his church and a youth academy where Long was pastor and mentor. Both suits seek unspecified punitive damages on counts ranging from negligence to breach of fiduciary duty.

Lee, the sociologist who has written about Long, says he expects him to mount a fierce counterattack.

"He'll demonize the accusers," Lee said, "and couch it in terms of how the enemy Satan is trying to hurt the ministry."


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Let's not convict this preacher just yet. He may be guilty, but for the time being he's vehemently denying it. But regardless, here's the thing that gets me: Whether his accusers are lying or not, what does this say about church and religion? On the one hand, if it's true, then you've got a big-time pastor "coercing" young guys into having sex with him. But on the other hand, if it's NOT true, then you've got young (and presumably impressionable) members of the church, under this guy's guidance, who definitely spent a lot of private time with him. If they are lying, then all of this guy's supposed godly, divine influence apparently failed to rub off on them. Either way, it really just highlights one more reason why people need to stop wasting their time (and money!!!) with that stuff.
Eddie may or may not be guilty of these charges. Eddie, however, is guilty of a lot of stuff. The consensus of folks I know who have investigated the church is that Eddie does not have any sense whatsoever. He has a certain kind of charisma through which he has garnered a considerable following, including Bernice King. For Eddie, however, power and money is like crack. He can not get it and spend it fast enough. He has been on a self destructive, and this time, it may have caught up with him.

As for whether or not Eddie is gay or bi, I had not heard rumors about him. Despite the Black church having a reputation as homophobic, there are quite a few clergy who are on the DL. Conversely, there are also quite a few heterosexual clergy who use there position and power to attract women. Often, these affairs will be initiated through sessions of pastoral counseling.
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Whether his accusers are lying or not, what does this say about church and religion?
It says that there are evil mufukkas all up in the church just as there are evil mufukkas all up in every other institution in the world.  Eddie Long, or these young cats which ever is lying, do not represent the church whether they would like to believe they do or not.
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Despite the Black church having a reputation as homophobic, there are quite a few clergy who are on the DL. Conversely, there are also quite a few heterosexual clergy who use there position and power to attract women. Often, these affairs will be initiated through sessions of pastoral counseling.

Hmmmm ... yeah .... and what's really going on with that, anyway?? 

'Cause that's not just true of the Black church ... but pretty much every other kind of church .. a few mosques ... and no telling how many other "holy" places, besides that!!

As Ms. Koco has said ... humans have "urges" and when they itch, people will usually find a way to scratch them - "clergy" or not!! .  And, as Vox has said ... either way, somebody was using/being used by/taking advantage of another person all in the name of religion.  Whether a priest/minister has sex with someone of the same or opposite sex ... it's still breaking covenants, rules, lines, laws, trust, and a whole lot of other things when they use their power to prey on their followers.

And it's not like these incidents are few nor isolated.


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But Franklin told CNN's "American Morning" on Wednesday that the two men "are not innocent victims" and that they have known "the wrong side of the law" before, including being charged with breaking into Long's office in June to steal items, such as jewelry, that could be sold for cash. "Let your viewers be the judge of their actions," Franklin said. In June, Robinson was arrested and charged with burglary in connection with a break-in at Long's office. An iPhone, iPad and other items -- more than $1,300 worth -- were taken from the office, according to the police report. Bernstein said Wednesday that about $100,000 worth of items were taken, including black diamonds
I'm not going to let this little tidbit pass by without bringing it up. Black diamonds??? In the church? What does a non-profit organization like a church doing with black diamonds in the sanctuary??? Kresge, I have to agree with your assessment about these 'ministers'. Imagine how much of our, well y'alls, money is wasted by giving it up to the church??? All of that money, $50 million, could've gone to building schools, community services in the local black community. . . sad. And that's just a drop in the bucket of the money that black christians just give away to the church.
"He'll demonize the accusers," Lee said, "and couch it in terms of how the enemy Satan is trying to hurt the ministry."



That's like Flip Wilson, posed as Geraldine, says "the devil made me do it."  Always hiding behind a fictitious/mytholocial icon to excuse a  distorted "human behavior."  To me and I am speaking specifcally for myself, PREDATORS prey where the "game" are.  Doesn't matter where the site  is.  As we have witnessed over the years and in history, predators can be seen in schools, associated closely with families/friends, and almost ALWAYS found sneaking around in somebody's CHURCH behind the cloth of religion.  These folks are in places [populated by] unsuspecting children/and their parents who are trusting to those they feel are [suppossedly] trustworthy.  To me....that's TOO much power.   And even in some regions of America, some police officers misuse their power as well when stopping unsuspecting female drivers.  So the bottom line is we are ALL humans....so we need to STOP acting like we are SUPER heroes beyond reproach.  Cuz our society is decaying as a result.  And our children deserve soooo much more.  I don't CARE who you are....keep your focking hands off our kids....they have enough problems trying to grow up in this sick twisted world.  They don't need sexual imposters making it worse by wiping their sickness on them, ultimatively destroying their lives.  These fools are selfish and self-absorbed-and probably were abused themselves as children or struggling with confusion about their OWN sexuality.  They need jail time...yeah that's right.  To be in an atmosphere where they can FEEL what it feels like to be raped of innocence over and over.  Uh...prison is a good teaching ground.....but!



Bishop Eddie Long Pictures Paint an Uncomfortable Image


I woke up this morning expecting the day to be normal, but normal just doesn't seem to visit my house anymore. I am especially convinced of this fact after seeing some really "interesting" pictures of the Bishop Eddie Long. These pictures were allegedly sent by Bishop Long to one of his "spiritual sons," who has not yet filed a lawsuit.


After these pictures were released to the public by the plantiff's attorney, B.J. Bernstein, I am sure she said the word "checkmate" out loud. One cannot say with complete certainty that these pictures were sent to the young man to convince him of the importance of working out, to show off the latest fashion trends or to simply say, "Hey man, how ya' doin'?"


Instead, the images leave Bishop Long with a lot of explaining to do.


"She's trying to paint him as a predator," says Dr. Christopher Metzler, a Georgetown University professor and highly respected litigator out of Washington, D.C. "She's also trying to get a settlement quickly by suing the church, the non-profit and Bishop Long. Given that Atlanta has such a large gay community, there may be gay people on the jury. He's pushed many gay people out of the church, so the perception of hypocrisy my cause him problems."





Here's the bottom line on the Bishop Eddie Long sex scandal:


If Eddie Long or anyone else were to send these pictures to any of my kids, I'd be standing in the pulpit with a baseball bat. No "spiritual advisor", teacher, or cub scout master has any business sending pictures like this to the young men he is advising. I am also hopeful that the photographic evidence will be enough to wake up anyone in Bishop Long's congregation who feels that he might somehow have been framed by another party. While anything is possible, we must also consider that which is probable as well.


The allegations against Bishop Long might provide an opportunity for the black church as well. Why are we choosing to live a lie when it comes to homosexuality in the church? We have gay men in the church, around the church and underneath the church, living on the down low. The question becomes, "If Eddie Long happens to be either completely or partially gay, does this eliminate the impact he's had on the lives of millions of people? Should we love and respect him any less?" What's worse is that if it is the case that Bishop Long is gay (I am not yet saying this for certain), why in the world would he go out of his way to not only attend a rally against gays, but actively position himself as an anti-gay pastor? It's one thing to be secretly gay, and another thing to go out of your way to attack the gay community, attend rallies against them and even lead the rallies that you're attending. That, my friends, is the definition of the word "audacity."


It appears that the Bishop Eddie Long sex scandal is just beginning. I am quite curious to see where it goes from here. At the very least, we can say that the attorney for the plantiffs is going for blood. No, I'm not talking about the blood of Jesus. For Benstein, the blood of Eddie Long will do just fine.


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  You know, I agree the blindly devout African-american Christians who buy into the mega church facade are already talking about how the Devil is attacking that ministry. Same thing was said during the Bynum affair and we see how trifling she turned out to be. But I tell you what, the plaintiffs aren't short on any implied evidence against Bishop Long. They are already releasing their names, photos and even the fact that they were charged with theft. The plaintiffs don't seem to be hiding a thing. Hell I wonder what evidence is going to be brought up in the court!!!  

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what full-grown man sends other dudes pictures of himself?
 A fake preacher on the down low PREYING on young unsuspecting men....by pretending his is their "soul" brotha.  Yep he's a souuuuuul brotha all right.  And I agree with Cholly....a baseball bat is in order......but!   Let's just see HOW he gets his azz outta this one. 
Well ... I just think it's wrong (and unfortunately not the least bit rare for people's need and desire to feel their spirituality and connect with their Creator is preyed upon by religious leaders and clergy.  Whether it be done for financial, psychological or sexual gain.

So many so-called preachers/priests are really just crooks, shysters, thieves, perverts, predators, and pedophiles.    And most people who stay within the church, even when they know that there's wrongdoing inside of it, are simply trying to worship in the only way they were ever taught to do it.

I wish more people would learn that what they need in order to satisfy the need of the soul to be able to connect with God can be found inside of themselves ... and not necessarily inside the church.
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So many so-called preachers/priests are really just crooks, shysters, thieves, perverts, predators, and pedophiles. And most people who stay within the church, even when they know that there's wrongdoing inside of it, are simply trying to worship in the only way they were ever taught to do it.
  You've said a lot there my sista!  And I also think that black people have been TRAINED historically to think that the only way to get to heaven is by going to church.  And they either ignore or forgot that those they entrusted their souls to are HUMANS who have the ability to do the wrong thing they themselves always PREACH about.  These folks act like they are untouchable and can do what they want as long as they hide behind the cloth of God.  Well...I haven't seen any of em thus far walk on water  or bring back the dead.  People truly have to be reasonable when they empower someone else with their well being and spirituality.  As they say, the devil is in the front row seat in church.  He attends church more than the devoted.  Folks have to know you don't have to give your soul away to the heathens who call themselves....preacher/priests/bishops/deacons.  Big mistake.  Huge.  Cuz why?  They are the biggest sinners.  But! 






Eddie Long, Atlanta Bishop, Accused Of Sexual Abuse By 4th Male Parishioner.



ATLANTA — A fourth young male member of Bishop Eddie Long's megachurch is suing the prominent pastor, claiming Long coerced him into a sexual relationship.

The lawsuit was filed by Spencer LeGrande, a member of New Birth Charlotte. New Birth Charlotte is a satellite church run by Long in Charlotte, N.C. The lawsuit said Long told LeGrande "I will be your dad" and invited the 17-year-old to journey to Kenya with him in July 2005. LeGrande said that Long gave him a sleeping pill on that trip and that the two engaged in sexual acts.

The Associated Press does not typically identify alleged victims of impropriety, but attorney B.J. Bernstein has said all four of the men who filed lawsuits consented to being identified publicly.

The lawsuit claims Long convinced LeGrande that "engaging in a sexual relationship was a healthy component of his spiritual life," the complaint said.

LeGrande, now 22, said the two continued their relationship on a February 2006 trip to South Africa and after he moved to Atlanta at Long's encouragement. He said that Long also instructed him not to have girlfriends, but that he pulled away in the spring of 2009 after he became "disillusioned." He moved back to Charlotte in October, it said.

The complaint, filed in DeKalb State Court, comes after three other men filed lawsuits on Tuesday and Wednesday saying they were 17- and 18-year-old members of the church when they say Long abused his spiritual authority to seduce them with cars, money, clothes, jewelry, international trips and access to celebrities.

Long is expected on Sunday to deliver the first public message since the men accused him of having sexual relationships with them. He has vehemently denied any wrongdoing through his lawyer and a Twitter posting.

Bishop's attorney, Craig Gillen, did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment Friday.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...th-man_n_738897.html





Bishop Eddie Long to Step Down as Pastor After Sunday.




There are also reports that as many as 30 young men have contacted the plaintiff's attorney, BJ Bernstein, in an effort to file suits of their own or join the existing lawsuit.


Bishop Eddie Long's sex scandal has been in the headlines of national news for several days. Since the story broke, there have been suspicious pictures released that feature Bishop Long wearing muscle shirts and spandex, posing in the bathroom. Some have wondered why Long would send these images to his "spiritual sons."


On the Bishop Eddie Long sex fiasco, which I discussed this morning on MSNBC, there appear to be three angles of consideration: Legality, morality and hypocrisy. Legally, one has to determine if Long violated his fiduciary responsible to take care of the young men under his guidance. Secondly, there is the question of whether the men he may have slept with were of legal age and whether or not there was coercion.


In terms of morality, there is the obvious concern about a pastor preaching the bible on Sundays and violating biblical principles by allegedly committing adultery and sleeping with men. Many members of his congregation may not be happy to see any evidence that this is indeed the case.


Finally, there is the issue of hypocrisy. Bishop Eddie Long has gone out of his way to position himself as a pastor standing against gay rights. He has also been accused of pushing homosexuals out of the church. The idea that he may be gay himself certainly undermines his public credibility.


It appears that Bishop Eddie Long may become the Tiger Woods of the pulpit. It will be interesting to see where the case goes from here, and as I said two days ago, this is probably just the beginning.



http://www.bvblackspin.com/201...pastor-after-sunday/
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Bishop Eddie Long to Step Down as Pastor After Sunday.

Say whaaaaaaattttt???? 

I mean ... not that that signifies an admission of guilt or anything!!  Right?? 


And anyway ... what I'm really having a problem with is ..... what is this "preacher" doing trotting all over the globe???  With teen-aged boys that aren't his, no less?? 

I mean .. is he really "spreading his good will"???  Or is he just spending up his parishioner's money?? 
I mean .. is he really "spreading his good will"???  Or is he just spending up his parishioner's money?? 


  Sista!  Sista!  Don't make me laugh  He was obviously "spreadin' " sumthing else!  This is how good people get wrapped up in bad situations[unknowingly].....trusting the hola trickery of a pimpin preacher.  This is classic tradition for many black churches.  Although there are many preachers/pastors who are completely innocent of this hyprocritical SIN......then you have these other PREDATORS...who will use whatever they have to...to get close to our children.  We as parent have to confront them...no matter who they say their GOD is.  It is our duty as loving and protecting parents.  The stories I can tell you about these "azzholes" hiding behind the cloth of GOD to prey on children...especially young men.  They don't CARE that they are destroying lives and confusing the definition of devotion.  I hate to say this...[but I wanna keep this real]..they just want the "booty."  And will do whatever they have to...to get it!  Bottom line.  That's why you have these young people going back and forth in total confusion about their sexuality cuz they don't realize that they have been violated by these sick twisted individuals who have the NERVE to call themselves preachers/pastors when instead they are nothing but pedophiles in disguise!  How disgusting.  Under the jail they go.
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EbonyRose, did you read that he was getting paid by his non-profit organization? In addition to his regular pastor's salary?? Seriously?? I don't even know what to say about this mess anymore!

Whaaaatttt???    Oh hell no ... I musta missed that part. 

And that's one of the things that PISSES ME OFF the most!!!    Somebody who's supposed to be "of God" shouldn't need to be paid no whole lot of money!!!   God doesn't use money.  You would think those doing "His work" would be sufficiently taken care of .... for a lot less than several million dollars!!!

 If anybody should be living on the faith that "the Lord will provide" ... shouldn't it be the priest/preacher/minister???  I mean ... they tell the congregation that ... but then take their money and "provide" themselves with lavish trips to Africa, the Caribbean, etc. (And allegedly with teen-aged boys no less!!) 
  And as I watch the news on this matter....I am completely dumbfounded about the arrogance of the congregation that says...."there's no way this is true."    How long are people gonna keep their heads in the sand about the woes of the pedophile?  Black churches especially are ignoring what has been going on for years.  To me, that's negliance.  Once again we are putting our sick twisted theorem in front of our children.  Once again, we are believing a pastor/preacher who is human and has the capability of doing this.....and there is evidence.....but!  Once again, there are those of us who continue to deny what is RIGHT before the EYES.  So.  The traditional question.  Are you gonna believe HIM or [the photo] your lying eyes?  Proof...once again.  


I have a thought.  Youwhoo!  Blackfolks!  God didn't say sacrifice your virgin children to the altar[sp] in the name of the almight pedohpile pastor/preacher i.e. religious entertainer.  God didn't say close your eyes to the common sense he gave you.  God didn't even say.....protect the pastor/preacher and kick your kids to the curb in the name of the Lord.  Nope!  God didn't say that.  And shame on the pastors/preachers who feel that they can put their dirty fithy hands on innocence children and destroy their lives in the name of  the God they are supposed to be worshipping.  They are the true "heathens!"  The true evil of the world.   


It was talk that these young men were at the age of maturity when this occurred....if in fact it did occur.  Duh!  Does that make it RIGHT?  Giving unsuspecting victims ambien  i.e. drugs to seduce them.  They were STILL teens.  Taking them off from their parents in another country to do the unspeakable!  What kind of animal does this? How focking arrogant!!!  And the nerve of some folks to ask...where the proof?  The kids said it happened.  Who are you gonna believe your child....or the sneaky azzwipe pedophile?  I am sooooooo pissed cuz our children have enough problems than to worry about being in a sacred place where they are told they are supposed to be SAFE from harm and then have a devil-monster draped in crosses and suffices[sp] holding a bible[] pulling on them tellin' them god said it was okay to have sex with him-this grown immature prick face.  What is this telling our children who trust their parents and are told to trust adults? This reminds me of a godfearing[]..... sex cult!!!!!
Megachurch pastor pledges to fight accusations.





Bishop Eddie Long, right, embraces a friend Sunday at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta. Long, the pastor of a Georgia megachurch accused of luring young men into sexual relationships, has told his congregation of thousands that all people must face painful and distasteful situations


Bishop Eddie Long says he is not the man being portrayed in the media.


The famed pastor of a Georgia megachurch said Sunday that he will fight allegations that he lured young men into sexual relationships, stressing that he'd be back to lead the church the next week.

Addressing a New Birth Missionary Baptist Church sanctuary packed with thousands, Bishop Eddie Long declined to discuss specifics of lawsuits filed against him — or flatly deny the accusations. But he drew thunderous applause when he told his church that while he's not perfect, the picture painted by the allegations is far from accurate.

"There have been allegations and attacks made on me. I have never in my life portrayed myself as a perfect man. But I am not the man that's being portrayed on the television. That's not me. That is not me," he said as applause interrupted him. 


Long told the crowd that his lawyers had advised him not to "try this case in the media." While the remarks were short on details of the legal case, Bishop spoke at length about enduring painful situations.

"We are all subject to face distasteful and painful sitauations. Bishop Long, Eddie Long — you can put your name in that blank — will have some bad situations," he said. "The righteous face painful situations with a determined expectancy. We are not exempt from pain, but He promises to deliver us out of our pain."

Long is scheduled to speak again at a 10 a.m. news conference and 11 a.m. service.

About 100 people waited at the doors of the church more than an hour before the first service. Some held signs of support, while others prayed for their embattled leader. A small group sang the hymn "White as Snow" while outside.

Long told the crowd that his lawyers had advised him not to "try this case in the media." While the remarks were short on details of the legal case, Bishop spoke at length about enduring painful situations.

"We are all subject to face distasteful and painful sitauations. Bishop Long, Eddie Long — you can put your name in that blank — will have some bad situations," he said. "The righteous face painful situations with a determined expectancy. We are not exempt from pain, but He promises to deliver us out of our pain."

Long is scheduled to speak again at a 10 a.m. news conference and 11 a.m. service.

About 100 people waited at the doors of the church more than an hour before the first service. Some held signs of support, while others prayed for their embattled leader. A small group sang the hymn "White as Snow" while outside.


Members in their seats clapped and swayed as the service began around 8 a.m., with several people with microphones singing on stage. Later in the service, hundreds began dancing and chanting, "Jesus, Jesus." A small group of young people held Apple iPads high over their heads, with the screens scrolling white letters against a black background reading, "It's time to praise him."





Long took the stage to loud applause from the crowd.

The lawsuits claim Long — who is an outspoken opponent of gay marriage — lured the four into sexual relationships with gifts including cars, cash and travel.

Long, a married father of four, previously denied the allegations through his lawyer but has not spoken publicly about them.

Over the past 20 years, Long became one of the most powerful independent church leaders in the country. He led New Birth as it grew from a suburban Atlanta congregation of 150 to a 25,000-member powerhouse with a $50 million cathedral and a roster of parishioners that includes athletes, entertainers and politicians.

Long took the stage to loud applause from the crowd.

The lawsuits claim Long — who is an outspoken opponent of gay marriage — lured the four into sexual relationships with gifts including cars, cash and travel.

Long, a married father of four, previously denied the allegations through his lawyer but has not spoken publicly about them.

Over the past 20 years, Long became one of the most powerful independent church leaders in the country. He led New Birth as it grew from a suburban Atlanta congregation of 150 to a 25,000-member powerhouse with a $50 million cathedral and a roster of parishioners that includes athletes, entertainers and politicians.

He flashed his prosperity by wearing diamonds and platinum jewelry, while building strong political ties and a close relationship with the family of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. The 2006 funeral for King's widow, Coretta Scott King, was held at New Birth. Their daughter, the Rev. Bernice King, is also a pastor at Long's church.

Bernice King took the stage at the first of Sunday's services.

Three of the young men who filed lawsuits this week live in Georgia, while the other was a member of a satellite church in Charlotte, N.C., run by Long.

Two of the plaintiffs were once members of a youth program called the LongFellows Youth Academy, which teaches teenage boys lessons on financial discipline and sexual control. In their lawsuits, the men say Long used the program to groom them for sexual relationships and lured them into trysts with cars, jewelry and cash.

The other two plaintiffs make similar claims that Long served as a mentor, gave them gifts, then convinced them to engage in sexual acts.

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Addressing a New Birth Missionary Baptist Church sanctuary packed with thousands, Bishop Eddie Long declined to discuss specifics of lawsuits filed against him — or flatly deny the accusations. But he drew thunderous applause when he told his church that while he's not perfect, the picture painted by the allegations is far from accurate.

Yep, he did it.   Just not the way they said he did. 
Quote by ER: "Yep, he did it.   Just not the way they said he did.  "


Bishop Eddie Long's rags to riches ministry and power is over and he knows it.


Going to court and throwing thousand of dollars, high priced lawyers and possible outside intimidation to the plantiffs before the possible out of court settlement payoffs will not solve the problem and will not get him out of this situation........and his brainwashed devotional followers need to start praying & crying right now and start cleaning house of all his "inner circle cronies" start looking for either a new minster or find another church to go to because the Bishop and his words (or lack of words) via his media press conference today in his defense is his death nail and the actual truth coming out......and his cheerleader plea of "I'm going to fight" to his congragation for moral support will not help him...and those nasty gay azz bathroom photos (How is he going to explain that? Accuse photoshop or quote a few Bible verses to the jury?) will seal the deal and if the plantiffs are smart they have/kept cell phone recording or video.






He tells his church members, "although I'm not perfect".......YOU"RE A PEOPHILE & FALSE PROPHET OF THE WORSE KIND: USING THE POWER OF GOD, RELIGION, THE CHURCH & THE PULPIT TO MANULIPATE, COERCE & F*CK TEENAGE BOYS, DESTROYING THEIR LIVES!!!............n*gger please! You sick nasty m*therf*cker!


And the church member's shame & embrassassment being duped? Typical pimping from these religion hustlers and it's a crying shame....I only wish that they all could get their money and time back.....and for mega church TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar and everybody else, ya better take careful notice if ya' doing sumthin' you ain't 'pose to be doin'!


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 Sista ER....I totally agree.  Hell yeah he did it.  "Although I'm not perfect, " statement, WTF do that mean?  If that isn't a sign of GUILT!! I don't know what is.  Blackfolks NEED to wake up.  Come on now, this ignoring-the-obvious bliss is gettin' pretty old and backwards and stupid. 

His entire statement was BS!!!! How can someone accuse you of something that could ruin your life, marriage, business, relationships etc and all you can say is "i"m not perfect" and "I feel like David...." among other things that do not address the primary issue

And for these blind fools that are following this boob, get a life.
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And for these blind fools that are following this boob, get a life.

Yeah that!  Is anybody in that congregation concerned about the child molestation aspect of these allegations?  Even though the boys were said to be over the age of consent...it's still allegations regarding sex with minors.  I would think that parents in the church would be highly disturbed about this.  Have all the boys in the church been interviewed?


Is that a wig/toupee he's wearing?  Didn't he previously have a receding hairline  Hairclub for men?
Not once did he say he is innocent.  Not once did he say 'I did not have sex with those boys'.  But he made it a point to say that he is not perfect about three times.......I'll be back I feel like a need to go take a shower after watching that guy.
Yeah that!  Is anybody in that congregation concerned about the child molestation aspect of these allegations?  Even though the boys were said to be over the age of consent...it's still allegations regarding sex with minors.  I would think that parents in the church would be highly disturbed about this.  Have all the boys in the church been interviewed?


  Great points....my sista  That's all I'm sayin'.  Who's listening to the kids?  It seems....NO ONE!  This is a great example of choosing the sick twisted adult over 4...mind you 4 different young men.  This is also why many children do not tell when they are abused by adults.  Who's gonna believe them?  Not their parents?  The ones who are supposed to protect them? Not society?  Who or [should I say] whom? And again....that over the age of maturity bullshyte is just that!  Bullshyte!  These are still young people....  No wonder we have gangs in our communties...violent gangs at that.  This could be one of the reasons why these children rebel once they get a little bigger.  This brotha is avoiding the issue.  He is HIDING behind the cloth of his supposedly "GOD"  


This is where I wanna slap the focking life outta some of these blackfolks!!!!!  Homosexuality is a thorn in our community only cuz folks won't come "clean" with it.  If you're GAY...say it!  Apparently you can't help yourself....but!  That doesn't mean you "rape" our children just cuz you're NOT adult enough to face up to WHO you are.  I. DO. NOT BELIEVE HIM!!!   He is a pedophile!!! He is a focking pedophile!!!!  I happened to believe the young men.  What young men who is NOT gay will admit to the world let alone his friends and friend that he has had SEX with another male?  Peer pressure and acceptance are HIGH attributes at this age.  And FOUR came forward.  Not one....not two...and not even three.....but! FOUR!!  I'll bet anything there will be MORE.  Watch!  I am soooooo pissed off on so many levels cuz again all this old brotha can do and have done lately is ARROGANTLY deny the allegations and like a punk azz coward hide behind GOD.  Like the kids say "ohhhhhhhhhhh you gonna get it." 
Quote by NSpirit: "Is anybody in that congregation concerned about the child molestation aspect of these allegations?"


Concerned? No. The only concern for the congregation is for their beloved Bishop and only him, their belief and gossip in the lies (that they have convinced themselves and believe what they are being told about the Bishop being lied on) of those young men and that systematic religious blind devotion and stubboness is all to common in churches.



These rumors have been circling for years and supression of the truth became the ultimate priority for Bishop Long and his "inner circle" in order to keep the congregration guessing, confused, off-base and continue to believe and worship in him.....take those factors away and the money quickly dries up.


And in the end when all the dust clears, those young men will probably be villified instead of admired and protected for their courage in their community by those programmed needy & dependent church goers since those young men "destroyed the church, messed everything up and got the good Bishop in trouble"......they will be blamed by the followers for his downfall and the downfall of the church before they will be rewarded...they won't ever blame Bishop Long (or take a long time to finally realize it) since many hyprocrite brainwashed church followers believe passionately that "men of God" and "especially our Bishop" can do no wrong.


The Bishop and many preachers can do all this dirt, the rumors and accusations will fly (true & false) all over the church and throughout the community. Friendships and relationships will be forever strained, broken and ruined and the Bishop, if this never came out, not a scratch and his congregation will continue to blindly praise, worship and give their hard earned money to him in exchange for being in the bosum of the Bishop, the status of being a member of that church and a church program/sermon that keeps them drunk in the holy spirit.



The dependency for many religious people on their church and their minister(s) is truly unbelievable.


They remind me of the Republican Tea Party members who also use religion in heavy rotation to justify their actions. If you don't agree with them or believe in what they believe (the belief in the man, Bishop Long more so than the Bible teachings) then they don't deal with you unless they an bring you into the fold.



Independent thought in the church and speaking out is not allowed and highly frowned upon. It makes it hard to control and guide your members.....these young men violated that pact.


That's just the way of many churches and the guidance of their spiritual  leader.
Brotha Cholly I agree with you on ALL levels.  And this is the DARK side of the church which keeps many many many good christians from joining.  If you can't trust the preacher....then whom?  As is why you  have all these nonbelievers.  It's not that they don't believe in God...they just don't believe in the person talking about God-which is why in my opinion our once solid community is now terribly BROKEN and may never ever be repaired.  This is sooooooo sadddddddddddd and unbelievably tragic!
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It's one thing to be secretly gay, and another thing to go out of your way to attack the gay community, attend rallies against them and even lead the rallies that you're attending. That, my friends, is the definition of the word "audacity."
  Oh before I forget Brotha Cholly.  This above statement reminds me of that senator[I think] or somebody close to Bush or maybe Obama...[I can't remember this person's name]...who was adamantly AGAINST gays and said it PUBLICLY....BUT!  It turns out he was in fact GAY himself and was hiding it.  Do you or anyone remember who this person is?  He just CAME OUT recently.  Well...this is the SAME thang with preacher punk pimp  There are soooooooooo many black men in the church who are on the down low.  So many it's focking scary.  I feel sorry for his wife....cuz it may be a GREAT possibility that this preacher punk pimp never USED a condom-exposing her to ALL kinds of social diseases.....but!  On the other side of this....it appears, she's ALL about the money and her position in church and probably NOT having sex with this azzwipe.  Otherwise, I do believe she [if she was any kind of WOMAN] would have LEFT long time ago.  The stories I could tell regarding why wives of preacher punk pimps stay in fake sexless marriages....but!  I won't.  Bottom line.  He's hiding and like you say...the INNER circles know..always have known. Now that!  I believe. 
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I didn't know until yesterday that he was married. With 4 children of his own .... three of them sons.
Of course. The black church seldom calls unmarried clergy. The usual fear is that a male pastor will be giving special attention to certain female parishioners. Moreover, an unmarried male pastor can be disruptive as some women in the church are more than willing to throw themselves at said pastor in order to become "first lady" of a congregation.

Most of the closeted clergy I know are married and have children.

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