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On the one hand I don't mind him but on the other he really annoys me.

 

He talks about the works of Charles Dickens and Capitalism.

 

How big a factor was PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE at that time.  As far as I can tell it did not start until after 1900.  But what have economists like HIM said about it in the last 50 years?  ALMOST NOTHING!  What have they said about making accounting mandatory in the schools?  NOTHING!

 

But now he wants to scream about how bad Capitalism is.

 

I say he is mostly full of crap for not brining up issues that could have helped avoid this but now wants to lay the blame on Capitalism which could not stop economists from computing and reporting the depreciation of durable consumer goods for the last 50 years.  

 

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How big a factor was PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE at that time.

 

Im gonna keep it real, you seem to be looking for the specific phrase "planned obsolescence" and claiming its not dealt with if you don't see it or hear it.  The truth is that the idea is found in quite a bit of work (from the time of Marx til today).

 

FYI there are entire chapters in Marx's work Capital that deal with Planned Obsolescence"

 

The idea is one that is borne from the logic of the system and not some contrived, secondary agenda.  Planned Obsolescence is a consequence of Capital's perpetual growth model.

 

I thought the point about Dickens was well stated, given that the conditions that lead to his writing are the same that exist in "third world" countries.....except today its hidden with better forms of marketing and news coverage (read propaganda).

Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher:

How big a factor was PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE at that time.

 

Im gonna keep it real, you seem to be looking for the specific phrase "planned obsolescence" and claiming its not dealt with if you don't see it or hear it.  The truth is that the idea is found in quite a bit of work (from the time of Marx til today).

It is not the phrase that matters.  The moving assembly line was not developed until Henry Ford.  There was probably a fashion industry among the rich in the time of Dickens.  But how much of the population was that?

 

There were 8000 cars in the US in 1900,  There were 200,000,000 in 1995.  But engineers could design planes capable of 400+ mph in 1940.  They could not do that in 1900.  Planned obsolescence is the misuse of advanced technology.  The technology did not exist in the days of Marx.  There was no television to use Freudian technology on consumers.

 

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