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Baker won't back off hot topic
BY PAUL SULLIVAN
Chicago Tribune

CHICAGO - (KRT) - Dusty Baker is taking criticism for saying that black and Latin players are better suited to play in the heat, but the Cubs' manager isn't backing away from his comments.

"I'm used to getting beat up," Baker said. "Like Popeye used to say, `I say what I mean, I mean what I say.' I meant what I said. I say what I feel. I try to be as honest as possible, and if that's how I feel, that's how I feel. And if that's what I said, you write it. They wrote it. It doesn't matter to me. I still believe what I said. I'm not going to take it back, or else I wouldn't have said it in the first place."

Baker said he told reporters the same thing he has told his players in the past_that part of the reason slaves were brought to America from Africa was their ability to work in the heat of the South.

"Everyone was talking about how hot it was, and I told them, `That's why my ancestors were brought over here, for this heat,'" Baker said. "That's history. My mother (taught) Black American history in Sacramento. What she told me, I'd repeat it.

"It sounds to me like a lot of people don't know history. If they take it as reverse racism ... they can take it however they want. I stand by what I said."


Actually it's technically inaccurate, if in a smalllll way. Skin color isn't about "heat" it's about Ultraviolet radiation protection. Melanin acts like the skin's "ozone layer", protecting it from harmful UV rays. Heat is a separate issue entirely and while the melanism of the darker skin protects against UV rays, it also absorbs MORE heat than lighter skin, just as a dark colored car absorbs more heat than a lighter car.

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I think Blks being brought to America had more to do with free labor. A poor nation, like this one was at the time, simply could not afford to pay for the labor necessary to provide the resources necessary. Slavery was free labor. Dusty's comments seem not to be accurate, but i respect his opinion. The problem I have with them is that they seem to have been spoken in jest. Jews don't make fun of the holocast, Blacks should never make fun of slavery or anything that is related to it in an attempt to make it seem logical.

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I do not think that Dusty's comments are racists, but are extremely unfortunate and I believe inaccurate. I believe the reason that Africans proved to be useful as slaves was not due to thier ability to physiologically withstand heat. I do not know of any medical studies that substantiate such a contention.

In addition to RadioRaheems reason as to why Africans were brought here, I would add.
1. They were rather easy to identify from the European population.
2. They were more resistant to the diseases of the Europeans as compared to the indigenous population.
3. Unlike the indigenous population, they were unfamiliar with the new land in which they found themselves, and thus found it much more difficult to run away. It was not thier home.
4. If heat was at all a factor, I would suggest that Africans had acquired knowlege about working in heat (particularly with respect to pacing oneself).

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Okay, let's examine what he actually said.... since shebakoby has posted comments that were after the fact. I looked around to try to find the actual comment in it's entirety and came up with various edited versions of it, depending on who wrote the story. So, essentially, this is what he said, though it's hard to tell the order he said it in:

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"The heat is nothing new to me, I'm from Sacramento. ... Personally, I like to play in the heat."

Then, with a laugh, Baker kept talking about the weather and how it affected players.

"It's easier for most Latin guys and it's easier for most minority people because most of us come from heat. You don't find too many brothers in New Hampshire and Maine. Right?

"We were brought over here for the heat. Isn't that history?" Baker said.

"Your skin color is more conducive to heat than it is to the lighter-skinned people. I don't see brothers running around burnt," he said. "That's a fact. I'm not making this up. I'm not seeing some brothers walking around with some white stuff on their ears and noses."




From CNN

DUSTY BAKER, CHICAGO CUBS MANAGER: Personally, I like to play in the heat. You know, It's easier for me. I mean, it's easier for most Latin guys and most minority people because most of us come from heat. You know, you don't find too many brothers from New Hampshire and Maine and upper peninsula and Michigan, right? I mean, you know, we're brought over here for the heat. Right? I mean, ain't that -- isn't that history? Weren't we brought over here because we could take the heat?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was a long time ago, though.

BAKER: So?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You might have become acclimated to a different climate.

BAKER: No, but your skin color is more conducive to heat than it is to the lighter skin colored people are to heat.




From KRT Wire

"You have to pretend that you're a construction worker out there," Baker explained to assembled media before his Cubs beat the Cardinals 6-5 on a hot and humid Saturday in Chicago. "You have no choice. It's easier for me. It's easier for most Latin guys and it's easier for most minority people. Most of us come from heat.

"We were brought over here for the heat, right?" Baker continued. "Isn't that history? Weren't we brought over here because we can take the heat?"

"(Black's) skin color is more conducive to heat than it is for lighter skin people, right?" he went on. "You don't see brothers running around burnt. Yeah, that's fact. I'm not making this stuff up. Right? You don't see some brothers walking around with white stuff on their ears and noses."


Now ... my first question is, does anybody here dispute that Blacks and/or Latinos take the heat better than Caucasians do? Anyone think that that's not true?

Secondly, I really doubt Dusty was trying to be the definitive authority on, the infinite wisdom for, or pinpoint the exact and only reason why Africans were brought to America. But, it's not too much of a newsflash that the African's ability to work outside in the fields in 100+ degree weather was a factor in keeping them coming!! As krege has pointed out, the Native Americans killed off easily and quickly from various reasons .... before they even got to the point of the kind of slave labor that our ancestors did. Had they not, slave ships would have been fairly unnecessary!

The point is, Europeans could not have produced their crops as effectively and efficiently as Africans did, because they simply could not have done the job. Witness what happened with the fall of slave labor! White folks were falling out left and right trying to maintain their plantations ... those that tried or had to try, that is. Of course, many found various dubious ways to keep their labor force. But many others folded instead.

What Dusty said may not have been "politically correct" but it was the truth ... and generally, racist comments have little of that in them. To say, "Black folks are lazy and don't wanna do nothin' for themselves!" is a racist comment. To say, "Some Black people are lazy as hell and don't do anything for themselves!" is the truth. Although some folks might not like to hear it.
kory stringer and those two Jacksonville Jarqurs blk players that all passed out during the heat of pre-season prove that Dusty's comments are a load in bull - ish Wink

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