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On August 10, Dr. Laura Schlessinger launched into a racially charged rant, during which Schlessinger -- in her own words -- "articulated the 'n' word all the way out -- more than one time." Among other things, Schlessinger also told an African-American caller that she had a "chip on [her] shoulder." Schlessinger has since apologized for her remarks, but audio from the discussion appears to have been excised from the recording of that day's show that appears on Schlessinger's website. Media Matters has obtained full audio of Schlessinger's comments:

Transcript of her remarks appears below the fold or Open link for video:


http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008120045

On Tuesday, Schlessinger took a call from a female caller during the second hour of her show and had the following discussion:

SCHLESSINGER: Jade, welcome to the program.

CALLER: Hi, Dr. Laura.

SCHLESSINGER: Hi.

CALLER: I'm having an issue with my husband where I'm starting to grow very resentful of him. I'm black, and he's white. We've been around some of his friends and family members who start making racist comments as if I'm not there or if I'm not black. And my husband ignores those comments, and it hurts my feelings. And he acts like --

SCHLESSINGER: Well, can you give me an example of a racist comment? 'Cause sometimes people are hypersensitive. So tell me what's -- give me two good examples of racist comments.

CALLER: OK. Last night -- good example -- we had a neighbor come over, and this neighbor -- when every time he comes over, it's always a black comment. It's, "Oh, well, how do you black people like doing this?" And, "Do black people really like doing that?" And for a long time, I would ignore it. But last night, I got to the point where it --

SCHLESSINGER: I don't think that's racist.

CALLER: Well, the stereotype --

SCHLESSINGER: I don't think that's racist. No, I think that --

CALLER: [unintelligible]

SCHLESSINGER: No, no, no. I think that's -- well, listen, without giving much thought, a lot of blacks voted for Obama simply 'cause he was half-black. Didn't matter what he was gonna do in office, it was a black thing. You gotta know that. That's not a surprise. Not everything that somebody says -- we had friends over the other day; we got about 35 people here -- the guys who were gonna start playing basketball. I was going to go out and play basketball. My bodyguard and my dear friend is a black man. And I said, "White men can't jump; I want you on my team." That was racist? That was funny.

CALLER: How about the N-word? So, the N-word's been thrown around --

SCHLESSINGER: Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO, listen to a black comic, and all you hear is nigger, nigger, nigger.

CALLER: That isn't --

SCHLESSINGER: I don't get it. If anybody without enough melanin says it, it's a horrible thing; but when black people say it, it's affectionate. It's very confusing. Don't hang up, I want to talk to you some more. Don't go away.

I'm Dr. Laura Schlessinger. I'll be right back.

After taking a commercial break, Schlessinger resumed her discussion with the caller:

SCHLESSINGER: I'm Dr. Laura Schlessinger, talking to Jade. What did you think about during the break, by the way?

CALLER: I was a little caught back by the N-word that you spewed out, I have to be honest with you. But my point is, race relations --

SCHLESSINGER: Oh, then I guess you don't watch HBO or listen to any black comedians.

CALLER: But that doesn't make it right. I mean, race is a [unintelligible] --

SCHLESSINGER: My dear, my dear --

CALLER: -- since Obama's been in office --

SCHLESSINGER: -- the point I'm trying to make --

CALLER: -- racism has come to another level that's unacceptable.

SCHLESSINGER: Yeah. We've got a black man as president, and we have more complaining about racism than ever. I mean, I think that's hilarious.

CALLER: But I think, honestly, because there's more white people afraid of a black man taking over the nation.

SCHLESSINGER: They're afraid.

CALLER: If you want to be honest about it [unintelligible]

SCHLESSINGER: Dear, they voted him in. Only 12 percent of the population's black. Whites voted him in.

CALLER: It was the younger generation that did it. It wasn't the older white people who did it.

SCHLESSINGER: Oh, OK.

CALLER: It was the younger generation --

SCHLESSINGER: All right. All right.

CALLER: -- that did it.

SCHLESSINGER: Chip on your shoulder. I can't do much about that.

CALLER: It's not like that.

SCHLESSINGER: Yeah. I think you have too much sensitivity --

CALLER: So it's OK to say "nigger"?

SCHLESSINGER: -- and not enough sense of humor.

CALLER: It's OK to say that word?

SCHLESSINGER: It depends how it's said.

CALLER: Is it OK to say that word? Is it ever OK to say that word?

SCHLESSINGER: It's -- it depends how it's said. Black guys talking to each other seem to think it's OK.

CALLER: But you're not black. They're not black. My husband is white.

SCHLESSINGER: Oh, I see. So, a word is restricted to race. Got it. Can't do much about that.

CALLER: I can't believe someone like you is on the radio spewing out the "nigger" word, and I hope everybody heard it.

SCHLESSINGER: I didn't spew out the "nigger" word.

CALLER: You said, "Nigger, nigger, nigger."

SCHLESSINGER: Right, I said that's what you hear.

CALLER: Everybody heard it.

SCHLESSINGER: Yes, they did.

CALLER: I hope everybody heard it.

SCHLESSINGER: They did, and I'll say it again --

CALLER: So what makes it OK for you to say the word?

SCHLESSINGER: -- nigger, nigger, nigger is what you hear on HB --

CALLER: So what makes it --

SCHLESSINGER: Why don't you let me finish a sentence?

CALLER: OK.

SCHLESSINGER: Don't take things out of context. Don't double N -- NAACP me. Tape the --

CALLER: I know what the NAACP --

SCHLESSINGER: Leave them in context.

CALLER: I know what the N-word means and I know it came from a white person. And I know the white person made it bad.

SCHLESSINGER: All right. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Can't have this argument. You know what? If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't marry out of your race. If you're going to marry out of your race, people are going to say, "OK, what do blacks think? What do whites think? What do Jews think? What do Catholics think?" Of course there isn't a one-think per se. But in general there's "think."

And what I just heard from Jade is a lot of what I hear from black-think -- and it's really distressting [sic] and disturbing. And to put it in its context, she said the N-word, and I said, on HBO, listening to black comics, you hear "nigger, nigger, nigger." I didn't call anybody a nigger. Nice try, Jade. Actually, sucky try.

Need a sense of humor, sense of humor -- and answer the question. When somebody says, "What do blacks think?" say, "This is what I think. This is what I read that if you take a poll the majority of blacks think this." Answer the question and discuss the issue. It's like we can't discuss anything without saying there's -isms?

We have to be able to discuss these things. We're people -- goodness gracious me. Ah -- hypersensitivity, OK, which is being bred by black activists. I really thought that once we had a black president, the attempt to demonize whites hating blacks would stop, but it seems to have grown, and I don't get it. Yes, I do. It's all about power. I do get it. It's all about power and that's sad because what should be in power is not power or righteousness to do good -- that should be the greatest power.

Audio from the rant, which immediately preceded Schlessinger taking a call from a woman she identified as "Jennifer," appears to have been excised from the recording of that day's show that appears on Schlessinger's website:




http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008120045


*******AND NOW THE APOLOGY**********


Dr. Laura Apologizes For Language Lapse.


Syndicated talker Dr. LAURA SCHLESSINGER issued apologies TODAY (8/11) for using the "n-word" while making a point about the word's offensiveness and its use by African-Americans on TUESDAY's show (8/10).

On her blog, Dr. LAURA wrote, "I always tell my listeners when they mess up, they need to follow the four R's: take responsibility, have true remorse, try to repair it, and don't repeat it. Yesterday, I messed up. I used the 'n' word on-air, and I regretted it as soon as the call was over. While it was in the context of making a point about the unfortunate use of that term by others who deem it acceptable or funny, it is a word that is hateful, hurtful and I should not have used it even to prove a point. After the call, I was terribly upset about it and pulled myself off the air for the rest of the show. Today, at the top of my program, I will apologize to my listeners."


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The sad thing is, the black woman who called clearly must have respected this bitch, because she called her for advice.  

What kills me is that she's trying to argue, basically, that the N-word is not racist, and not offensive.  Fuck a predator drone, I want something more personal.  Like a foot right down her throat.  
  As I always thought....Dr.Laura[pugh and gag] is and has always been a RACIST whore...an arrogance racist whore who can give advice to others....but!  Won't take her own advice and as a result continues to be  estranged from her mother[if she's still alive].  She is a hypocrite and an self-entitled[and I hate to use this word...cuz as a woman it's the ultimate insult and tagging of mischaracter...but it depicts her perfectly] c***t!  And I didn't stutter.  On so many levels I can just wear her azz out..but!  I don't have the time right now.  I will say that "c***ts"  like  her are the ones to continue to fuel massa's backwards ignorant position on who they THINK they are to the world!!  She just let EVERYONE know that she is a racist.  No matter how she'll try to flap that racist PH.D document that doesn;t mean a damn thang to me....to justify how and why she can say the things she does....still it all boils down to her being a racist "c***t" angry that we have a Black president. 


I'm sure her "dear black friend"  never knew they were so close until that ranting. Reminds me of driving Miss Daisy-that bitch!  You know I never understood why these white whores are so angry at blacks for our outstanding ability to not only overcome adversarties[sp]...but! How we have managed to accomplished some remarkable unprecendented achievements in this country before and after the civil rights movement that whitey has yet to do[I mean since he's sooooo smart]  They[these white whores like the Jews] hid behind us to voice their opinion about women's rights...there were many brilliant black speakers to support their cause:  Harriet Tubman is one and Sojornor Truth is another.  So I'm not surprised....one bit.  If I had the time[and really I don't] I would write this bitch and give her some poignant history about the "n" word since she is so insenstive and feel she can say it cuz some black men do....It would my pleasure to include some history on Jew whores[like her] who screwed their way to acquire their academic power in education.  There is no way this bitch accomplished her educational goals without getting on her knees once or twice...maybe in her case a few times.  Cuz why?  She's a dumb whore.  Every word that spewed outta her mouth justified her inability to "think" intellectually.  Cuz my question to this trick...who in the FOCK are you...whore? And another thing that burns me.....she had the advantage...if the tables were turned?  It'll be NO WAY this whore could talk to a sista like that!!!  No way.  Make it on equal terms...you slut!  How 'bout talking shyte without being on YOUR radio show...ummm  how about doing it face to face?  Cuz it's so easy to have a holier-than-thou attitude when you on the other side of the phone....right?  I betcha that bitch wouldn't have said that shyte to Whoopie, or Oprah or Maya or a few other dynamic black women.  She wouldn't have the "balls" to say that shyte face to face to another strong black woman.  Cuz why?  She is a focking COWARD!!!  Bitch!  I am soooo angry cuz massa and his trick whore gets away with this bullshyte alllll  the focking time.  And they still say it isn't racist.  Bullshyte!!!!  They're mad cuz they are slowly losing power and this was made clear and evident when Dr. Trick C**t Laura totally disrespected the black  caller asking a legitimate question.  The barn door is open now. 
  

I have so much to say about her....but!  I will address it later when I have more time to ponder.  I always thought she was a Jew not catholic. Cuz why?  She smells like one...but!  I'm just sayin
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........who try to downplay the word as not being directed at anyone race but they can never provide any examples of another person of another race being called n****.

Yep! Laura is ignorant, no doubt. But when black people continually call each other a racist epithet in public with no reservations, I guess others feel it’s no big deal. Personally, I don’t use the word but others have no problems using it in all discourse of conversation. But ironically, they stick their lips out in indignation and anger when others do it. WTF??!! There is a loud obnoxious hood rat Negro that moved next door to me (I can hear him as I write) who uses the “N” word constantly! Every time he opens his sewer mouth it’s, “…. mother f%#k this, nigger that, f%#k dat, yo, nigger this…” Until black people as a group decide not to address each other with a word that was created to dehumanize them, they can expect people like Schlessinger to say the dumb shit she says. If the word was that offensive as some Negroes claim (which it is), then why would they call another black person such degrading word?

One of the talk radio shows I listen to had the usual cast of idiots calling in trying to debate how n***er, n***a, n***ah etc were all different and depended on who said it
The host asked one of the idiots, that if one of his white friends who used the term n***a were to call his mother said term, what would he do, and of course the genius got offended and said "that was different"
Either it's right all the time or wrong all the time, you can't have it both ways.
Yep! Laura is ignorant, no doubt. But when black people continually call each other a racist epithet in public with no reservations, I guess others feel it’s no big deal. Personally, I don’t use the word but others have no problems using it in all discourse of conversation.---Xeon

I always point out how critical the language we apply to ourselves is.

This is also true for the term 'black'.

That term is in 'general use', and for the same reason.

But, it is a (societal) color describing what we rather than who we are.

We are comfortable with it, because we decided to apply it to ourselves just as those who use it have done with the 'n-word'.

I contend...I...contend...there is no difference.

We have actively trying to empower ourselves with identity since 'Say It Loud'.

We still haven't learned how to do it.

We refuse to accept the examples all over the world staring us in the face, and we STILL will not accept them as valid, THERE IS SOMETHING...SYSTEMICALLY...WRONG...WITH US.

PEACE

Jim Chester
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The sad thing is, the black woman who called clearly must have respected this bitch, because she called her for advice.

That was my first thought about all this, as well.  She kinda got what she deserved 'cause she asked for it ... by dialing that crazy heifer's number in the first place. 

I must say that actually hearing the audio was much more jarring than simply reading the transcript.  As soon as she went off the rails talking about how "Black people voted for Obama just because he was Black" thing - which had absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the caller's White husband's friends and family making inappropriate comments to her - I was thinking how unfortunate it was that a 'real sista' was not on the phone ... 'cause Dr. Laura would and should have been ripped a new one right then and there!! 
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What kills me is that she's trying to argue, basically, that the N-word is not racist, and not offensive.


What kills me is anyone white trying to tell Black people what is or is not racist and how we should feel about racism.  Hell, that's like a man telling women what labor pains feel like, and how we should feel about the labor pains.  However, since she is Jewish she should have been able to relate to what the caller was expressing; I guess once you get excepted as white in America, you can then live out your life as if white people did not try to commit genocide on your entire race, and actually like all of you now and always have.
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However, since she is Jewish she should have been able to relate to what the caller was expressing; I guess once you get excepted as white in America, you can then live out your life as if white people did not try to commit genocide on your entire race, and actually like all of you now and always have.---sunnubian

I guess that is a part of it...,but

Laura Schlessinger is a member of 'the privileged'.

She, and the system, have taught her that the proper thing to do is to admonish,and advise, criticize,minimize, and marginalize, deny and confine African American-Americans.

She sees it as her duty, and responsibility.

Why would anyone confess to being, and STILL refuse to apologize.

Clearly, the wrong is a different kind of wrong from the wrong than can be done to those who are not African American-American.

PEACE

Jim Chester
  Okay....I've calmed down....but!  My azz was hot!!!! Cuz I worked with siddity whores like Dr. C***t Laura all day long who feel they are entitled to make sure observations/comments about ANYBODY they feel are "less" than them.  [I call this a "caste" system in America] Of course they don't like my azz when they start acting stupid like that cuz I start bringing up the European woman's brothel history.  Back in the day as everyone here knows, I was part of continual women's movement in the 60-70s[the burning of the bra era], I was right in the middle as a young college student and I SAW with my own EYES how whorish these white academic sluts can be and what they do to get that "paper."  And it's cooool if that's whatcha wanna do...but!  When you start spewing unnecessary racist apatat[I know I'm spelling this wrong] just to make a point cuz you heard that horrible word used before by those who know are dysfunctional idiots...and then justify your use of it???  And what gets me..... you're supposed to have a doctrate in Psychology????? i.e. the study/development of the human mnd....and you stoop below the line just to make a point?  Which is racist by the way.  And you.  A professional? Well all bets are focking off.  I'm taking off my shoes and putting vaseline on my face!!!


 Cuz for me?  I'm a rebel from way back and I don't sit kindly to any white whore debasing my people[even if some of em are crazy]...and I'm not gonna apologise for my ranting...cuz for the most part it irritates the hell outta me when white whores i.e. dummies  run their mouth about something they clearly don't know about and think it's alright cuz they got that "paper" they screwed most their academic career to get.   Nope!  Not around me.    Yeah I know she's controversial just to make that dollar...but!  That heifer needs to get a reality check.  And that'll be her radio job...thankyouverymuch!  Black power needs to be visible in this instance.  This whore MUST know what it feels like to come against Black Power.  She needs to feel it where it hurts-in her pocket financially.  So.  A boycott is in order.  Sharpton.  Jesse.  Tavis.  Yall need to make sure this bitch loses her job/power.  Cuz why?  She needs to know RIGHT now that that "word"[even if it is used by our stupid young people and rappers] should NEVER come outta anyone's mouth...especially a "white" one [even if she is a  half "Jew" it still applies.NO ONE should use it]....but!  There is no "but"
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Until black people as a group decide not to address each other with a word that was created to dehumanize them, they can expect people like Schlessinger to say the dumb shit she says. If the word was that offensive as some Negroes claim (which it is), then why would they call another black person such degrading word?

The problem with this is that not all Black people address each other with that word!!  Waaay too many think it's acceptable ... but for many (most?) it's just as disgusting a word as it is said and thought to be.  (Most?) of us know better.  But it IS a unacceptable issue among our young. 

And it IS unacceptable ... regardless of who says it ... in what context .. and to whom.  Just because our younguns think it's good/cool/ok/acceptable ... doesn't mean that it is.  It just means that they THINK it is!!  However ... there's a certain level of stupidity that comes with EVERY generational group of a certain age ... namely those occupying the ages between  puberty-thru-young adult.  Few of us escape it ... and it's all a part of the centuries-old "circle of life" ... that you and I went through during that time period ... and our parents before that ... and their parents before that.

The difference, though, is that with these past two generations, we've lost control of maintaining that level of respect,  for ourselves and others, that was enforced on us (and those before us) that would have NEVER allowed for that kind of degradation.  You know ... smoke pot, take hallucinogenics, hitchhike around the country, and end up at some empty field listening to Jimi Hendrix and orgying with hundreds of strangers??  Yeah, maybe!    But addressing each other as "n****r"???  Would have gotten the taste slapped out of our mouths in a New York minute!! 

It is NOT okay for Dr. Laura Schlessinger ...  NOR Snoop Dogg to say that word!!!  Nor anybody else in between those two polar opposites.  Period.  Bottom line.  End of story. Just because it does happen doesn't make it right.  Or acceptable.  It is a 'problem' that we need to 'fix'.  But it will never be okay.  Under ANY circumstances.  Ever.
However, since she is Jewish she should have been able to relate to what the caller was expressing; I guess once you get excepted as white in America, you can then live out your life as if white people did not try to commit genocide on your entire race, and actually like all of you now and always have.


  Wow!  My sista after my own heart with this keen observation.  Exactly!!!   They i.e. the Jews...think they're WHITE....and they are not!  They are semites.  Like Latinos are considered in some places...Hispanics.  And some blacks are viewed as mulattos.  Why?  Cuz they are hybids of two or more cultures/race. White and sumthing else!  So that bitch...think she is white priviledge[cuz her daddy was white]...but she is still a semite i.e. Jew.  And even though the other whitefolks [Germans in particular] were responsible for committing genocide against her people....just like most victims...that wanna please and be like their aggressor, she embraced her semi-whiteness.  I also think the reason why [please excuse me...but I despise her] Dr. C**t Laura didn't get along with her mother was because her mother was Jewish and not white.  And Dr. Trick wanted to be fully white and that angered her cuz she wasn't as is why she has such a foul behavior trait and lashes out at anyone in view.  Typical massa wannabe pattern.  But! I'm just sayin
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And it IS unacceptable ... regardless of who says it ... in what context .. and to whom. Just because our younguns think it's good/cool/ok/acceptable ... doesn't mean that it is. It just means that they THINK it is!! However ... there's a certain level of stupidity that comes with EVERY generational group of a certain age ... namely those occupying the ages between puberty-thru-young adult. Few of us escape it ... and it's all a part of the centuries-old "circle of life" ... that you and I went through during that time period ... and our parents before that ... and their parents before that.
But here's another angle.  I can call my cousin a big-headed slew-foot couch potato, but if somebody outside the family calls him that, those become fighting words.  It's a matter of context.  Two blacks of the hip-hop generation, or Two blacks of the 70's jive generation, or Two blacks of the 60's black power generation calling each other N-word is NEVER in the same context as a white letting N-word slide out of his mouth toward a Black person. 


There is NO context within which a white person saying the word could be construed as a brotherly greeting, or simply a slang descriptor.  Even for those hip-hop loving wiggers, there is too much history to let them get away with saying "my N-word, how u be?" 


I think the history of derision, belittling, degradation, other, separation, and less-than that whites imparted when they originated the word is still conveyed when they utter it today.  While I don't condone the use of the N-Word by blacks, I'm pretty sure this isn't what they mean to convey when they say "what's up nigga?" or "you my nigga"  or "dat nigga crazy"


This is why european-americans need to STFU instead of crying crocodile tears because Blacks can use the word and they can't.
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Mitigating circumstance to justify its use diminishes, and demeans us as a people.
No it doesn't.  Nor was I justifying its use.  I was making the very valid point that white people do mean to demean us and put us in our place when they say nigger and black people don't have that specific intent. 


As i said earlier, i don't condone the use of the word and it's valid to debate on the appropriateness or inappropriateness of the term among african americans...but it's impossible to pretend that whites and blacks mean the same thing when they utter the word.
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I think the history of derision, belittling, degradation, other, separation, and less-than that whites imparted when they originated the word is still conveyed when they utter it today. While I don't condone the use of the N-Word by blacks, I'm pretty sure this isn't what they mean to convey when they say "what's up nigga?" or "you my nigga" or "dat nigga crazy" This is why european-americans need to STFU instead of crying crocodile tears because Blacks can use the word and they can't.


Do you realize how dumb that is? This is yet another example of why other people think black Americans are dumb.


To even call yourself a derogatory ethnic name in the first place is dunce cap subintelligence to say the least.



Dr. Laura To END Radio Show After N-Word Rant.



Dr. Laura Schlessinger announced Tuesday night that she would end her radio show following her N-word rant last week.

"My contract is up for my radio show at the end of the year and I've made the decision not to do radio anymore," she told Larry King. "The reason is I want to regain my First Amendment rights. I want to be able to say what's on my mind and in my heart and what I think is helpful and useful without somebody getting angry, some special interest group deciding this is the time to silence a voice of dissent and attack affiliates, attack sponsors. I'm sort of done with that."

Dr. Laura emphasized that she is "not retiring" but rather just ending her radio show.

"I'm not retiring, I'm not quitting, I feel energized actually," she said. "Stronger and freer to say the things that I believe need to be said for people in this country."

Schlessinger said she will continue to write books and to publish on the internet and maintain her speaking engagements.

Last week, she apologized for using the N-word eleven times in five minutes with a black female caller.

She insists, however, that the decision to leave radio was her choice and not forced upon her by her syndicator.

"Were you gonna have a new contract?" King asked.

"Yeah," Dr. Laura responded. "We've added five stations this week and added sponsors. This is not an issue of I'm losing anything."

Schlessinger said the outrage over her use of the N-word led her to feel as though her First Amendment rights were being infringed upon.

"Living with the constant fear of affiliates and sponsors being attacked is very distracting," she said. "I never called anybody a bad word. I was trying to bring — and obviously it has become a national discussion now — I was trying to make a philosophical point. And I made it wrong, but I wasn't dissing anybody. I was trying to make a point, and for that to say that I should be silenced is the reason why I'm saying to you that I'm obviously losing First Amendment rights."

Video to come...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...io-sho_n_685652.html

Maynard, what's the matter?  You're attention seeking because your aryan nation stormfront kkk grand wizard sheets have been pulled off? 


Why you insist on posting on a website where the culture is not your own and you display a glaring lack of knowledge about all aspects of the culture with each post is beyond me.


I suppose as a resident boogeyman/foil you serve a purpose as a useful idiot.  You know, like the town fool. 


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"My contract is up for my radio show at the end of the year and I've made the decision not to do radio anymore," she told Larry King.
Why does she get to be on mainstream programs like Larry King in the first place?  Her crypt-keeper looking azz should have been shunned and silenced by major outlets.  But instead they give every crazy hateful idiot a platform.  A pox upon this shrew and i would hope that whatever board is licensing her to be a "doctor" would conduct a review.  She is a partisan hack and not capable of helping anyone except racists.  Given that she has a jewish name and is at least part jewish - that's pretty sick.
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impossible to pretend that whites and blacks mean the same thing

Exactly.  And the arguments against using the N-word would be better served by not being so disingenuous as to deny along with other things the proponents typically deny.  

It an argument from a less than credible position to pretend that words don't differ in meaning and, more importantly, in interpretation/reception given the context, setting and sender/receiver relationship.  Those are basic, universal rules of language/communication and it's pathetic when any good position (which the "don't use the N-word" position is suppose to be) is supported/defended by a mandatory suspension of reality, the rules of language and human nature.

Furthermore, all the "it demeans us" and "diminishes us" type of rhetoric are things people say to express their displeasure with the term and, IMO, it's another form of self-loathing/self-hate in the vain of 'positive' stereotyping -- i.e. the concept (abolishing/avoiding the N-Word, in this case), while commendable, ignores the full humanity and diversity of the people referenced and, in this case, penalizes Black people for being human vs. superhuman (all kinds of other people can "reclaim" words but only when Black people do it, it becomes remarkable).  

I'll start something but, frankly, if we're going to decry those things that signify the negatives inherited from slavery then Black folk should be opposed to wearing/keeping the (sur)names given to them by the or those otherwise derived from massa.  

And, ironically, that's what I think the real issue is:  people are reacting to something that reminds them of the degraded state of our people were in during slavery.  If that's the case, I don't know how European names (Smith, Jackson, Johnson, etc.) don't evoke the same kind of emotions.  But, for some reason, a lot of us have made our peace with those names and quite a few of us take pride in names that ultimately are not ours similar to the way the N-word came from 'massa.'

So, if we are honest with ourselves...  We have to admit that there is a tangled web of dilemmas, contradictions and less than ideal things that are all a part of who we are individually and as a diverse people coping with our dilemmas in various ways with 'success', for the lack of a better term, in varying degrees.
Furthermore, all the "it demeans us" and "diminishes us" type of rhetoric are things people say to express their displeasure with the term and, IMO, it's another form of self-loathing/self-hate in the vain of 'positive' stereotyping -- i.e. the concept (abolishing/avoiding the N-Word, in this case), while commendable, ignores the full humanity and diversity of the people referenced and, in this case, penalizes Black people for being human vs. superhuman (all kinds of other people can "reclaim" words but only when Black people do it, it becomes remarkable).---NQuest

I agree.

I am one who used the phrases 'it demeans us' and 'diminishes'  in this post.

The full citation of my usage is the phrase: 'Mitigating circumstance to justify its use diminishes, and demeans us as a people.'

My reference, however, was specific than to 'black' people.

I was referring specifically to African American-Americans...that smaller and unique group of 'black' people who are Americans who are of unknown African ancestry.

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Jim Chester
  Thank God!  But if she thinks she can fool somebody with that FALSE "I'm not retiring"... i.e. I just need to go some place else where I can exercise my First Amendment rights.  First Amendment right?  What?  The right to call blackfolks the "n" word?  Whore who you're kiddin'?  Black power got to your azz.  And it wasn't pretty...now was it?  Thought so.  You're gonna pretend that you're leaving is not as a result of the pressure you've been receiving from black audiences throughout the country. Ho...please.  You're not that tough....or can do what the fock you want when you want!  There's rules....dontcha know that?


 Besides that, she acts like she OWNS the First Amendment. Cuz she is hiding behind it instead of publicly apologizing for being a insultive c***t and using the "n" word.  Old trick...you don't get to do what the fock you want when it come down to us.  Slavery is over.  We're not chattel.  Yall know I do not LIKE white whores!!! Can't stand them.  Especially the ones who gotta a little edujamation, money and a couple of dollars....those whores you can't tell them shyte!!!  They think they can be rude, hurtful and disrespectful...just cuz they are WHITE!!!  They continue to look down on blackfolks as if we are domestic animals...not dynamic human beings responsible for raising the quality of living for white monsters for over 400 years....pushing their backward azz way beyond any civilized environment known to man presently.  Blackfolks did that for those mentally disturbed neantherals.  And when mofos [like her deliberately] ignore that fact/evidence of our unprecedented accomplishments and try to act like they are BETTER...when they are the ones to bring disease to the entire advance indigeous[sp] population[including us] ...and through all of that....still we survived??  Whore better back up and recognize.  Yep that's right  go some where else?   Good decision.  Cuz I tell you she didn't wanna fock with Black Power!!!  As a group?  Black power i.e. black people are strong, consistent and  unstoppable!!! And...this dynamic energy was getting ready to wear her azz out!  And she knew it.  Fastforward...I project her having a nervous breakdown...cuz this shyte aint over.  Hell nawl.  Now she has to deal with her colleagues.  I'm sure she got black associates besides her bodyguard....and they gonna ALWAYS see that "n" word before they see her....and the relationship is NOT gonna be the same.  She is gonna lose clout and spiral into nothingness....watch!  You get back what you put out....but!
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The fact is ... no matter how you "say" it,  "mean" it, the "context" it's used in, whether it's with "love" or "contempt", whether a Black person or White person says it ... the definition of the word stays the same.  A nigger is a nigger.  And that doesn't change just because you say it with a smile on your face. 

Me and my BFFs have "nicknames" for each other, as well.  Among them is the word "dog."  And we throw it around rather freely in private (and sometimes not-so-private) conversation.  Now, there's worse things you can be called other than a "dog" ... but, it's not the most endearing of terms, either.

However .... most people LOVE their dogs!!  I know I do!    Most people consider them "family" as opposed to "pets" ... and sometimes they are more loved and cared for and respected than some of the people their 'masters' are in contact with! 

I'm sure it can be debated whether there is really any respect in one strong, successful,  Black woman referencing another such Black woman as a "dog"!!    But, as I said ... there are certainly worse names that could uttered ... we don't call each other "bitches" ... which, would, technically, be about the same thing.

But a "nigger" is what a "nigger" is. No matter how you say it .... the result is still the same.

I'm sure she was told that they would not be renewing her contract because of this controversy as part of a negotiation to not just terminate her outright.  

Also most negotiations of this nature often have stipulations in them like, the radio station not publicly stating why she is leaving; that way she can run all over the networks acting like it was her decision, claiming to have some First Amendment Rights issues.




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the definition of the word stays the same

Yep!  Just like every other word.  Context, setting, sender/receiver relationship don't matter.  Words only mean one thing and one thing only no matter what.  Neither does the intensity or depth of meaning change as tone, infection, sentence structure, etc. changes. 

It's a stupid argument which, again, mandates the suspension of all rules of language and human psychology and communication.  And because of that, it's a losing argument.

If "the definition of the word stays the same" then the reactions to White people who say it vs. the Black-on-Black use would be the same but it's not.  Proof of the losing side of your argument. 

I'm with NS on this: there is an undeniable difference and distinction between the way White people use and have used the word and the way Black people do, by and large.  That alone makes this claim that "the definition of the word stays the same" preposterous. 

One of the first lesson kids learn when they learn to read is how you can figure out what a word means by the way it's used in a sentence, even if you never seen the word before.  It's a sad form of anti-intellectualism for Black people to argue that those gravity-like rules of language don't apply when it comes to the N-word.
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P.S.:  My personal take on the "n" word is that it should be viewed as a curse-word when teaching young children about it.  However, I do feel that some people deserve to be called nothing less.  I don't let teenagers say the word in my home or presence without a long boring history lesson--- now, that is one sure way to get teenagers to stop using the word to refer to each other or to Black people in general because teenagers would do ANYTHING to keep from hearing a long drawn out history lesson over and over and over.  

I personally always refer to house-niggers as just that because that is exactly what I see them as (and regardless of race or gender); this is done in the company of adults and I doubt that I will ever stop calling a spade a spade. In other words, I feel the word is derogatory just like profanity can be, so in this context, "house-nigger" is an adjective as far as I'm concerned.

However, I don't refer to Black people in general using the "n" word and I don't think that it is cute or that Black people should ever accept being called the term because of the meaning behind whites referring to Black people (and others) using the word in the first place.

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