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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Please point out one excuse I made for anyones ignorance including your own.


Scroll your self-righteous self back to page 6 and read for your selective memory loss self: Bureaucratic Corruption,

But let me guess. Any kind of source that is posted in this thread or anywhere else that indicates the barbarism, chaos, and corruption that goes on in Africa is nothing but lies fed throughout the world by the U.S. government in a multitude of resources from books, periodicals, internet, textbooks, and television broadcasts. But somehow, through devine intervention, everything you and anyone else says or posts that supports your biased views is automatically right, at least by your sentiments. Fucking please. Straight damn nonsense.


I did not post on page 6 at all. You remind me of the character Cole on the old Martin Lawrence show. Have a pleasant day.


See, this is how phony you are: You didn't see anything on page 6 because you didn't post but you definately saw enough in this thread to automatically make the decision to jump the "hate Romulus" bandwagon and act accordingly, so that fake ass cordial tone you're using is a waste of damn time.

And even if you didn't see the original post I made on page 6 there's the link right there in your face giving you a blow-by-blow call of the numerous accounts of bureaucratic corruption throughout Africa.

And you know who you remind me of? You remind me of a member of Charles Manson's family of killers,Susan Denise Atkins aka Sadie Mae Glutz:




Still in prison at age 57 after being denied parole 11 times.

She was denied parole 11 times for committing numerous murders for Manson in an especially cruel and callous manner of people that were in no way a threat to her. Sadie Mae bragged about the murders while on trial while she professed Charles Manson to be the only complete man she's ever met and declared him to be Jesus.

You have that same mentally disturbed demeanor about you, Fagunwa, in that you discuss the inhumane atrocity of FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION as only being practiced within families and is quickly becoming passe like it's a fashion fad. Both you and oshit asset interact like members of a cult as you ignore, deny, and dismiss the genocide unleashed by killer dictators on their own citizens and blame their crimes on British and French colonization.

Perhaps I should post a few names to shake up your memory since all of you think only the British and the French are capable of murder:


Laurent Kabila



Idi Amin


Yoweri Museveni


Theoneste Bagosora


Mengistu Haile Mariam

Do you recognize any of these men? Are any of these men French or British? I don't think so. All of them together have tortured, mamed, and killed millions of innocent people. And that's just the tip of the iceburg...
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Originally posted by oshit asset:
I lived in Canada on an off with my mother's side of the family(I'm a dual citizen)... loved their healthcare!


Before I continue don't think I'm trying to lead away from the discussion on the thwarting of Marxism in the Republic of Congo as well as several other countries in South Africa. I need to box your ears for a moment on this sorry issue you brought up on Canada. BTW, I find it quite hypocritical to be pro-African and anti-American as well as anti-European yet you brag about being a 'dual citizen'.

While it is most certainly unfortunate that over 50 million people in North America are without healthcare in the so-called richest country on Earth--mainly because Hillary Clinton's plan to provide universal healthcare was axed--I most certainly am not one of those unfortunate ones, so I don't need Canada for shit.

My family and I have had full medical coverage since day one through employment at the state and federal level. I myself have recieved thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of medical procedures, operations and prescription medication and only paid a fraction of the cost through co-payments. I have never been denied any kind of prescription medication or procedures nor could I be denied medical coverage due to pre-existing conditions since medical coverage is automatic with state and federal employment.

Furthermore, I've fortified my insurance coverage with a secondary policy to cover a number of other pitfalls:

All types of cancer: Covered

Catastrophe/dismemberment: Covered

Protection against all forms of lawsuit: Covered

Prolonged sickness: Covered

On top of that I have over a half a million dollars of life insurance. What I take pride in the most is that my family and I have surrounded ourselves with black professionals throughout the community such as lawyers, OB/GYN, Gastroenterologists, Opthomologists, General Practitioners, Pediatritians, Dentists, etc. so that every dime of insurance money spent goes in the pockets of black professionals in our community.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by oshit asset:
I lived in Canada on an off with my mother's side of the family(I'm a dual citizen)... loved their healthcare!


Before I continue don't think I'm trying to lead away from the discussion on the thwarting of Marxism in the Republic of Congo as well as several other countries in South Africa. I need to box your ears for a moment on this sorry issue you brought up on Canada.

While it is most certainly unfortunate that over 50 million people in North America are without healthcare in the so-called richest country on Earth--mainly because Hillary Clinton's plan to provide universal healthcare was axed--I most certainly am not one of those unfortunate ones, so I don't need Canada for shit.

My family and I have had full medical coverage since day one through employment at the state and federal level. I myself have recieved thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of medical procedures, operations and prescription medication and only paid a fraction of the cost through co-payments. I have never been denied any kind of prescription medication or procedures nor could I be denied medical coverage due to pre-existing conditions since medical coverage is automatic with state and federal employment.

Furthermore, I've fortified my insurance coverage with a secondary policy to cover a number of other pitfalls:

All types of cancer: Covered

Catastrophe/dismemberment: Covered

Protection against all forms of lawsuit: Covered

Prolonged sickness: Covered

On top of that I have over a half a million dollars of life insurance. What I take pride in the most is that my family and I have surrounded ourselves with black professionals throughout the community such as lawyers, OB/GYN, Gastroenterologists, Opthomologists, General Practitioners, Pediatritians, Dentists, etc. so that every dime of insurance money spent goes in the pockets of black professionals in our community.


Congratulations. Like you, I also have good health coverage.

Clearly, you and I are morally superior to those who do not.

Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by ricardomath:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by oshit asset:
I lived in Canada on an off with my mother's side of the family(I'm a dual citizen)... loved their healthcare!


Before I continue don't think I'm trying to lead away from the discussion on the thwarting of Marxism in the Republic of Congo as well as several other countries in South Africa. I need to box your ears for a moment on this sorry issue you brought up on Canada.

While it is most certainly unfortunate that over 50 million people in North America are without healthcare in the so-called richest country on Earth--mainly because Hillary Clinton's plan to provide universal healthcare was axed--I most certainly am not one of those unfortunate ones, so I don't need Canada for shit.

My family and I have had full medical coverage since day one through employment at the state and federal level. I myself have recieved thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of medical procedures, operations and prescription medication and only paid a fraction of the cost through co-payments. I have never been denied any kind of prescription medication or procedures nor could I be denied medical coverage due to pre-existing conditions since medical coverage is automatic with state and federal employment.

Furthermore, I've fortified my insurance coverage with a secondary policy to cover a number of other pitfalls:

All types of cancer: Covered

Catastrophe/dismemberment: Covered

Protection against all forms of lawsuit: Covered

Prolonged sickness: Covered

On top of that I have over a half a million dollars of life insurance. What I take pride in the most is that my family and I have surrounded ourselves with black professionals throughout the community such as lawyers, OB/GYN, Gastroenterologists, Opthomologists, General Practitioners, Pediatritians, Dentists, etc. so that every dime of insurance money spent goes in the pockets of black professionals in our community.


Congratulations. Like you, I also have good health coverage.

Clearly, you and I are morally superior to those who do not.

Roll Eyes


Your sarcasm is bullshit considering you also have healthcare coverage and you're amongst the 172 million other Americans that have healthcare coverage, so to join the bandwagon just to keep in good standing with your other crony members is unecessary fodder. I don't consider myself superior in any shape or form and standing my ground in threads like this instead of punking out under the guise of 'keeping the peace' is a load of shit, so keep it coming with your sideshow phoniness.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Your sarcasm is bullshit considering you also have healthcare coverage and you're amongst the 172 million other Americans that have healthcare coverage,
so to join the bandwagon just to keep in good standing with your other crony members is unecessary fodder. I don't consider myself superior in any shape or form and standing my ground in threads like this instead of punking out under the guise of 'keeping the peace' is a load of shit, so keep it coming with your sideshow phoniness.



1. If your having health care coverage does not make you superior, then what is its relevance to this discussion?

It only means that you - like ricardomath - are more fortunate than other Americans - a fact which is arguably not fair. I.e., it serves no purpose in the discussion other than to introduce a sideshow.


2. What ground are you standing in this thread? What are you representing?

It's hard to tell since you've changed your tune so many times on this thread - after being corrected on facts - that it seems like the only thing you're fighting for is your ego.
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Originally posted by listener:
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Congratulations. Like you, I also have good health coverage.

and how much does one have to pay for good health coverage?


I'm glad you asked. There are several different levels to my plan, the cheapest being $30 a month or $360 a year for an HMO. Of course we all know HMO's are garbage. I opted for the premium plan, which gives you everything under the sun including being able to transfer your coverage from state-to-state. That costs $150 a month. The secondary cancer/law/dismemberment policy from another provider and costs $60 a month.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:

You have that same mentally disturbed demeanor about you, Fagunwa, in that you discuss the inhumane atrocity of FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION as only being practiced within families and is quickly becoming passe like it's a fashion fad. Both you and oshit asset interact like members of a cult as you ignore, deny, and dismiss the genocide unleashed by killer dictators on their own citizens and blame their crimes on British and French colonization.

Perhaps I should post a few names to shake up your memory since all of you think only the British and the French are capable of murder:

Do you recognize any of these men? Are any of these men French or British? I don't think so. All of them together have tortured, mamed, and killed millions of innocent people. And that's just the tip of the iceburg...


Dude, slow down, you're all over the place. You're ranting on like some crazed psychotic off his meds. And chill out with the tough talk and bravado, it doesn't prove anything and it certainly doesn't make you any smarter.

Every last one of those dictators you posted have been or are currently supported by the government you're willing to bleed for. I bet you didn't bother to research their funding. These dictators are shills of western governments all of whom are economically or militarily financed by the united states and their allies. These thugs would not have remained in power for the duration that they did without the assistance from the west. In your limited world view it's acceptable for dictators to terrorize and kill their own people as long as these thugs are "friendly" to amerirkkkan interest. Did you ever stop to think why is it that social revolutionaries such as Lumumba, Nkrumah, Biko and others are terminated shortly after they gain mass support of the people? Yet Idi Amin, Museveni and the Mobuto's of the world seem to last a lifetime? Put 2+2 together, homeslice.

I just posted a thread on Suharto of Indonesia. This dictator ruled with an iron fist for over thirty years and killed over a half- million people, yet he "achieved remarkable economic development" reported by your government. Suharto was pro west which made all the difference. A dictator is a dictator regardless of his political ideology.

You see, the problem with people like you is you're hypocrites. You deliberately fail to recognize your own hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of this government. What you're doing is parroting slanted information from the corporate media without conducting any independent research of your own while berating members on this forum for their political views. As a result you believe anything written by the Rupert Murdoch media. Are you that naive or just on the pipe, homie?
OK here we go. A negro who is named after a human allegedly suckled by a wolf would have a hard time recognizing true human behavior. That negro would have a beastly nature, from his beastly nuture. Not only are you misinformed, you are a liar to boot. Anyone reading my posts knows you are lying, just like your massa the kings of lies.

What you see as a demented personality is in reality a coolness you would do well to develop. I have seen you before you know, you have had many names in our history. The traitor who for money sells his own people as slaves and brags about his "coverage". The creep who runs to tell massa' what the family is doing in the quarter and grins, feeling good about himself while eating his scraps from massa's table. I would pat you on the head and call you a "good nigga", but you would think that's a compliment.
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Originally posted by dissident:

Every last one of those dictators you posted have been or are currently supported by the government you're willing to bleed for. I bet you didn't bother to research their funding. These dictators are shills of western governments all of whom are economically or militarily financed by the united states and their allies.


Oh you want some too eh? I'm going to stop your overzealous ass right there. In fact I'm not even going to waste my time quoting your entire post because it's garbage"”straight garbage. If I'm intelligent enough to know who is really responsible for Lumumba's demise I'm smart enough to know there's more to Africa's poverty, barbarism, chaos and strife. What you and a lot of Negroes on this ˜Amerikkka' kick can't grasp is the fact that those dictators would have unleashed genocide on their own people whether the money had come from the U.S. government or Japan, The USSR (before its downfall), China or any other world power. What makes you think these men would behave any differently if the money wasn't U.S. government issue? Don't be so damn ridiculously naïve and one track-minded.

Don't blame the inexcusable war crimes these men have committed on U.S. funding. No one forced their hand"”those men didn't have to slaughter millions of their own countrymen. Those men slaughtered their own citizens as dictator after dictator after dictator fell all over each other killing each other and overthrowing each other in bloodless and bloody coup after coup and the U.S. is all to blame. Fucking nonsense. I'm sick and damn tired of hearing about outside sources, whether they be Western or anywhere else, being the scapegoat for the reason why Africans continue to wage civil wars across their own continent.

Though the U.S. has fallen short of what they pledged in aid to Africa the rest of the countries of the world that also pledged aid like Switzerland, Germany, The United Kingdom, Netherlands, Sweden, France, Belgium, and a host of other countries have also fallen short in aid given to Africa, so stop acting like America is supposed to be solely responsible for Africa's welfare. The U.S. has lead the rest of the world in aid was only rivaled by Japan in the billions of dollars in aid given to Africa for a short period of time but the U.S. has regained the lead.

In the last 50 years the U.S. has given 2.3 trillion dollars to Africa But you want to know what happens? Corrupt African governments controlled by power hungry dictators loot Western funds, turn around and hide the funds right back in western financial institutions. Even when the money is recovered it's stolen once again by rivaling neighbors. Once again you can't completely blame the U.S. when many of Africa's leaders are looting and re-looting just as quickly as aid can be given. To sit there and ignore the economic as well as inhumane crimes Africa's dictators have committed is irresponsibly ignorant.

I mentioned several dictators for a reason and that reason is that 200 billion (90%) of Sub-Sahara GDP is lost annually. In 2004, 148 billion dollars was lost to African elites' corruption. In Africa Unchained (2005), Dr. George B. N. Ayittey paints a more gruesome picture of looting in Africa: 148 billion dollars is lost to corruption annually, 20 billion dollars to capital flight, expenditures on arms importation and military hardware cost 15 billion dollars annually, civil war damage costs 15 billion dollars annually, and the remaining leakages cost Africa 216 billion dollars yearly. Africa is retrogressing in wrenching and unmanageable poverty due to corrupt leadership.

Now let's get back to American soil. If the U.S. was such a hell on Earth, then why are millions of immigrants, legal and illegal, breaking their necks on an annual basis trying to get a piece of the pie? If America was so evil, then why has African migration to America increased over 170 percent with Nigeria, Ethiopia, and Ghana having the largest communities? If the United States is so evil, then why has the U.S. provided refuge to hundreds of thousands of Africans fleeing persecution?

If the U.S. is so despicable, then why did Congress reform U.S. policy (The Refugee Act back in 1980) toward refugees facilitating a rise in the number of Africans turning to the United States for refuge that offered new arrivals permanent residence? If the U.S. is so evil why did Congress pass the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986, granting legalization of status to 31,000 Africans living in the country since 1982?

If America is so evil, then why did Congress pass The Diversity Visa Lottery that offered immigrant visas to high school graduates in nations underrepresented in the United States, which became the primary method by which Africans immigrated into America?

If America is so evil why did the U.S. government also establish a Temporary Protected Status (TPS) program providing temporary refuge to foreign nationals present in the United States who would be subject to either violence due to armed conflict or environmental disaster of which Sudan, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Somalia, and Burundi have benefited from?

As a result of foreign born African immigrants benefiting from a relatively high level of educational attainment they have generated a large proportion of the $3 billion in remittances sent back to Africa annually, so you're going to have to come a lot stronger than that if you really want to get down in this thread. I'll leave you with this:

Two observations need to be made about Africa's leadership preoccupation with making excuses for their actions and the blaming of others for Africa's dilemmas: first, by blaming outsiders, mainly westerners much needed energy, time and creative resources are wasted unproductively while attention is diverted away from the leadership's own moral failures. In simple terms, a man who does not address his own shortcomings is incapable of solving his own problems. The vast majority of Africa's woes are easily attributed to internal causes - the problems lie in Africa and the solutions are internal, not external. Second, it needs to be made clear to African leaders that when the West or the East comes to Africa, it is not because they inherently love Africa; but instead, foreign countries and entities come to Africa to pursue their own interests. This is not a case of an African Negro falling in love with a blond, exotic white girl from the western hemisphere. The West will pursue its interests in Africa and elsewhere. As an African, though, I have my own elected officials who should protect my interests. If my leader fails to protect my interests, then he is at fault - I have a right to blame and hold him responsible for his ineffectiveness and not somebody else who is pursuing his own interests in my backyard.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Chicken George:
OK here we go. A negro who is named after a human allegedly suckled by a wolf would have a hard time recognizing true human behavior.



Whatever you say, Fagunwa.


That's your best? You are a real man. They warned me about your proclivity for injecting your confused sexuality into discussions.
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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Chicken George:
OK here we go. A negro who is named after a human allegedly suckled by a wolf would have a hard time recognizing true human behavior.



Whatever you say, Fagunwa.


That's your best?


No. You don't want my best, fagunwa. This board can't handle my best. Look around you. There's a reason why nearly every member on this board loves to tripple and quadroople team every thread they see me in. There's a lot of bruised egoes on this board already. Now move along before you end up being another disgruntled member sending me hate PMs all through the night like some kind of deranged ex-girlfriend.

But lets be real. Why all the evasiveness of the topic at hand? Surely you should be able to effectively defend your own precious motherland on such a simple topic. You're supposed to be an intellectual yet all you can do is throw childish insults? Is this the best you can do? All this idol worship talk of Lumumba and making him out to be a martyr at the hands of the CIA when there clearly is conflicting evidence. First Belgium exhonerates the U.S. then decades later they say they lied about killing Lumumba, then all the focus is on making Mobutu the sole villian when President Kasavubu was the one that conspired with Mobutu and fought with Lumumba long before the U.S. stepped up to the plate and had him dismissed, of which oshit asset clearly left out of her selectively incomplete rant. Grade school insults, cynicism and sarcasm can't save you. Speak up for your homeland because the immature behavior isn't phasing me at all.

You see, I don't need a cheering section full of ill-informed idiots nor do I need to stroke the egoes of fellow members by giving praise to their lukewarm, common knowledge posts and refer to them as 'brother' and 'sister' and 'dearly beloved' like a bunch of aristocratic buffoons. I can speak my mind all by myself.
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Originally posted by ricardomath:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Chicken George:
OK here we go. A negro who is named after a human allegedly suckled by a wolf would have a hard time recognizing true human behavior.



Whatever you say, Fagunwa.


ooooooooooooo...another penile dispaly....

lol 20


And what peice of knowledge have you contributed to this thread other than behaving like the token whitie ever showcasing his prized jezebel on his tag like the character, Dunwitty, in the movie 'Bamboozled' showcased pictures of black professional atheletes all over the walls in his office. Boy, I tell ya. Spike Lee is a genius through and through. He must have gotten most of his research from this discussion board when he was creating that movie.
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Yet you speak to her with no honor. There is a way to disagree and display your manhood at the same time. Have you done this?



He does it all the time.

He reminds us every day that he's not gay

Ya know... I really think he just gets-off on riling us up & stroking himself. You can tell by all the personal attacks + verbal masturbation. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if he was beating off at his computer as we speak...

Ooooooooh... I got'em hooked now...


You nasty. laugh
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Please point out one excuse I made for anyones ignorance including your own.


Scroll your self-righteous self back to page 6 and read for your selective memory loss self: Bureaucratic Corruption,


Cato? You quoted CATO? One of the most pro-corporate websites on earth? You might as well have quoted American Renaissance for an accurate assessment of African history.
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Please point out one excuse I made for anyones ignorance including your own.


Scroll your self-righteous self back to page 6 and read for your selective memory loss self: Bureaucratic Corruption,


Cato? You quoted CATO? One of the most pro-corporate websites on earth? You might as well have quoted American Renaissance for an accurate assessment of African history.


And this is the best defense you can come up with? The age old AA.org trick, 'this source isn't credible because I don't approve of it' gag? Go back to the drawing board. You're wasting my time stalling because you have nothing to say to effectively contribute to the opposing argument of this thread topic. I can easily play both sides of the coin and throw insults as well as contribute credible information but I prefer to lean more on the side of credible information instead of playing discrediting tricks, deception, redirecting, telling half truths and complete lies.

I'm putting an end to this extremist biased ass regime of miseducated foolishness. Any source used that effectively opposes a biased, one-sided argument on this site is quickly discredited but you people talk out of your asses with either no supporting links and expect people to bow and accept or the handful of links you supply are automatically supposed to be bible scripture is some complete bullshit. Every argument in this thread against standing up for America has only been childish insults and half truths that you people indirectly and directly miseducate the viewing audience on--feverishly painting a biased picture of Africa being the helpless victim while ignoring the big picture of the epidemic corruption in Africa that funnels worldwide aid away from societies in need and into the pockets of ruthless dictators. the nonsense has to stop.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Please point out one excuse I made for anyones ignorance including your own.


Scroll your self-righteous self back to page 6 and read for your selective memory loss self: Bureaucratic Corruption,


Cato? You quoted CATO? One of the most pro-corporate websites on earth? You might as well have quoted American Renaissance for an accurate assessment of African history.


And this is the best defense you can come up with? The age old AA.org trick, 'this source isn't credible because I don't approve of it' gag?


Isn't that what you do to every source you don't agree with? Yes.

Anyway, I'm not knocking it because I personally disagree with their politics, I'm knocking the site because the site is in favor of all sorts of things that harm Black America. Thus their credibility is automatically suspect.

Unless you believe that corporate America's interests are also Black America's interests.


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Go back to the drawing board. You're wasting my time


You're wasting EVERYONE's time.
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Please point out one excuse I made for anyones ignorance including your own.


Scroll your self-righteous self back to page 6 and read for your selective memory loss self: Bureaucratic Corruption,


Cato? You quoted CATO? One of the most pro-corporate websites on earth? You might as well have quoted American Renaissance for an accurate assessment of African history.


And this is the best defense you can come up with? The age old AA.org trick, 'this source isn't credible because I don't approve of it' gag?


Isn't that what you do to every source you don't agree with? Yes.

Anyway, I'm not knocking it because I personally disagree with their politics, I'm knocking the site because the site is in favor of all sorts of things that harm Black America. Thus their credibility is automatically suspect.

Unless you believe that corporate America's interests are also Black America's interests.


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Go back to the drawing board. You're wasting my time


You're wasting EVERYONE's time.


Unacceptible. You don't have the ability to address the issue beyond emotional ranting. The one that is wasting time is you, fagunwa, honestbrother, black viking, and ricardomath.
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Let's face it, there are many out there that would love to destroy our freedom-loving ways!!

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Sometimes I get the impression that Americans saying this about the 'freedom', that in reality they want to defend the unchallenged power to do whatever America wants to do, regardless how much America interferes, dominates, goes on wars etc.
When you talk about freedom - why does America place its military around the world, wants to station its missiles on European ground regardless reactions for example.
What do you think is America's right that there is still American army on German ground? Do you think that I should appreciate this because of your 'freedom-loving' way? Ever asked about the freedom of others?
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Unacceptible. You don't have the ability to address the issue beyond emotional ranting. The one that is wasting time is you, fagunwa, honestbrother, black viking, and ricardomath.



All you give us is emotional ranting. Roll Eyes

But you are right.

I'm wasting my time bothering to exchange posts with an emotional and intellectual cripple.

I'll try to do better in the future.
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Unacceptible. You don't have the ability to address the issue beyond emotional ranting. The one that is wasting time is you, fagunwa, honestbrother, black viking, and ricardomath.



All you give us is emotional ranting. Roll Eyes

But you are right.

I'm wasting my time bothering to exchange posts with an emotional and intellectual cripple.

I'll try to do better in the future.


yeah
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Please point out one excuse I made for anyones ignorance including your own.


Scroll your self-righteous self back to page 6 and read for your selective memory loss self: Bureaucratic Corruption,


Cato? You quoted CATO? One of the most pro-corporate websites on earth? You might as well have quoted American Renaissance for an accurate assessment of African history.


And this is the best defense you can come up with? The age old AA.org trick, 'this source isn't credible because I don't approve of it' gag?


Isn't that what you do to every source you don't agree with? Yes.

Anyway, I'm not knocking it because I personally disagree with their politics, I'm knocking the site because the site is in favor of all sorts of things that harm Black America. Thus their credibility is automatically suspect.

Unless you believe that corporate America's interests are also Black America's interests.


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Go back to the drawing board. You're wasting my time


You're wasting EVERYONE's time.


Unacceptible. You don't have the ability to address the issue beyond emotional ranting. The one that is wasting time is you, fagunwa, honestbrother, black viking, and ricardomath.


A non-response. dance
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Originally posted by listener:
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Let's face it, there are many out there that would love to destroy our freedom-loving ways!!

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Sometimes I get the impression that Americans saying this about the 'freedom', that in reality they want to defend the unchallenged power to do whatever America wants to do, regardless how much America interferes, dominates, goes on wars etc.
When you talk about freedom - why does America place its military around the world, wants to station its missiles on European ground regardless reactions for example.
What do you think is America's right that there is still American army on German ground? Do you think that I should appreciate this because of your 'freedom-loving' way? Ever asked about the freedom of others?


Now this I can deal with. I don't think it's American citizens' sense of freedom that is of issue as it is the U.S. government's sense of freedom. Obviously, America's citizens have a different perspective from their government. There hasn't been one single publicized war the U.S. has been in that was necessary from Vietnam to Iraq.

To understand why America has to station its troops around the world all you have to do is look back to the Roman Empire. America is playing its existence out the same way Rome played out theirs. We've reached the same point Rome did where individual religions have divided the country, exorbant amounts of funds are funneled into its military, and sports figures have taken the spotlight over scholars.
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Bill C:
Let's face it, there are many out there that would love to destroy our freedom-loving ways!!


Oh f*ck you. Don't pull that McCarthy bullshit.

What "freedom" are you talking about and who is trying to destroy it?

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America, is a very special Place


America is no better than anywhere else.


lol a little peeved EP?
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I don't think it's American citizens' sense of freedom that is of issue as it is the U.S. government's sense of freedom.

What is American citizen's sense of freedom and what it the goverment's sense of freedom?

This was the sentence I referred to:
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Let's face it, there are many out there that would love to destroy our freedom-loving ways!!

This is the myth your government seems to tell America. ? The same myth that 'the world' is just yearning to be blessed with American democracy.
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Now this I can deal with. I don't think it's American citizens' sense of freedom that is of issue as it is the U.S. government's sense of freedom. Obviously, America's citizens have a different perspective from their government. There hasn't been one single publicized war the U.S. has been in that was necessary from Vietnam to Iraq.


You have GOT to be kidding!! Eek This has to be the worst warmed-over, regurgitated, piece of brainwashed American patriotism psychobabble I have heard in a long ... long ... looonng ... long time! bs

If you stand for America, you stand for it's gov't and it's policies. It is representative of you. What's done is done in your name.

Now, if you are down with what has been done in the name of America .. then you need to wave Old Glory high above your head!! Stand tall, stand proud and accept what is done in your name. The good, the bad and the ugly. Don't be wishy washy about it. And worse, don't be an opportunistic turncoat patriot.
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Originally posted by listener:
This was the sentence I referred to:
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Let's face it, there are many out there that would love to destroy our freedom-loving ways!!

This is the myth your government seems to tell America. ? The same myth that 'the world' is just yearning to be blessed with American democracy.


Actually, listener ... 9/11 pretty much proves the validity of that (quoted) sentence. America is hated by and in many places around the world by many people. And, yes, they would love to change the way we live forever.

But, you're absolutely tfro on that democracy thing. I don't think we even ask anymore before we try to shove it down people's throats. :rolleyesl
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Actually, listener ... 9/11 pretty much proves the validity of that (quoted) sentence. America is hated by and in many places around the world by many people. And, yes, they would love to change the way we live forever.


It's not the American 'freedom loving way' which is hated or disliked but America's interpretation of freedom as well as America's bigotry and lying.
And 9/11 didn't come out of the blue.
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Originally posted by listener:
It's not the American 'freedom loving way' which is hated or disliked but America's interpretation of freedom as well as America's bigotry and lying.
And 9/11 didn't come out of the blue.


Well, yes, but a lot of people who don't live with such freedoms are also mad and angry and jealous that they don't. So, it's not only a matter of seeing (and hating) us for our arrogant ways of insinuating ourselves on others ... but, many would love to bring us down and in so doing, put us in the same "freedom-less" position that they are in.
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Well, yes, but a lot of people who don't live with such freedoms are also mad and angry and jealous that they don't. So, it's not only a matter of seeing (and hating) us for our arrogant ways of insinuating ourselves on others ... but, many would love to bring us down and in so doing, put us in the same "freedom-less" position that they are in.

Bush propaganda works?
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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by Bill C:
Let's face it, there are many out there that would love to destroy our freedom-loving ways!!


Oh f*ck you. Don't pull that McCarthy bullshit.

What "freedom" are you talking about and who is trying to destroy it?

quote:
America, is a very special Place


America is no better than anywhere else.


lol a little peeved EP?


A little. lol

I just really hate that "They're trying to destroy our freedom" comment because it's one of the most sheepish and simultaneously self-righteous comments out there.
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:
Now this I can deal with. I don't think it's American citizens' sense of freedom that is of issue as it is the U.S. government's sense of freedom. Obviously, America's citizens have a different perspective from their government. There hasn't been one single publicized war the U.S. has been in that was necessary from Vietnam to Iraq.


You have GOT to be kidding!! Eek This has to be the worst warmed-over, regurgitated, piece of brainwashed American patriotism psychobabble I have heard in a long ... long ... looonng ... long time! bs

If you stand for America, you stand for it's gov't and it's policies. It is representative of you. What's done is done in your name.

Now, if you are down with what has been done in the name of America .. then you need to wave Old Glory high above your head!! Stand tall, stand proud and accept what is done in your name. The good, the bad and the ugly. Don't be wishy washy about it. And worse, don't be an opportunistic turncoat patriot.


You talk like you think I actually give a fuck about what you just said.
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by listener:
It's not the American 'freedom loving way' which is hated or disliked but America's interpretation of freedom as well as America's bigotry and lying.
And 9/11 didn't come out of the blue.


Well, yes, but a lot of people who don't live with such freedoms are also mad and angry and jealous that they don't. So, it's not only a matter of seeing (and hating) us for our arrogant ways of insinuating ourselves on others ... but, many would love to bring us down and in so doing, put us in the same "freedom-less" position that they are in.


Oh no, not you too! sck
I think these sentences were posted in backwards order. I corrected them.

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If you stand for America, you stand for it's gov't and it's policies. It is representative of you. What's done is done in your name.
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You have GOT to be kidding!! Eek This has to be the worst warmed-over, regurgitated, piece of brainwashed American patriotism psychobabble I have heard in a long ... long ... looonng ... long time! bs


Bland humor strikes again. lol 20 lol

Just because some lying morons claim to do something in my name and have the power to get away with it doesn't mean I don't recognize the fact that they are lying morons with stupid followers that will go along with their bullshit.

umbra

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