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10 Things You Should Know About Slavery and Won’t Learn at ‘Django’

Christoph Waltz and Jamie Foxx in “Django Unchained.” Photo: The Weinstein Company

Wednesday, January 9 2013, 10:02 AM ESTTags: Djangoslavery


Much hullabaloo has been made recently about slavery as entertainment in movies like “Django Unchained.” But lost in the discussion is slavery as history, and the simple fact that it was an economic system which seized the economic know-how of Africans in order to construct unimaginable wealth in North America, Europe and throughout the Western Hemisphere. Wealth from the slave trade took Western Europe from being one of the world’s poorest regions to its wealthiest and most powerful in under a century.

Though sadistic and macabre, the plain truth is that slavery was an unprecedented economic juggernaut whose impact is still lived by each of us daily. Consequently, here’s my top-10 list of things everyone should know about the economic roots of slavery.

1) Slavery laid the foundation for the modern international economic system.
The massive infrastructure required to move 8 to 10 million Africans halfway around the world built entire cities in England and France, such as Liverpool, Manchester and Bordeaux. It was key to London’s emergence as a global capital of commerce, and spurred New York’s rise as a center of finance. The industry to construct, fund, staff, and administer the thousands of ships which made close to 50,000 individual voyages was alone a herculean task. The international financial and distribution networks required to coordinate, maintain and profit from slavery set the framework for the modern global economy.

2) Africans’ economic skills were a leading reason for their enslavement.
Africans possessed unique expertise which Europeans required to make their colonial ventures successful. Africans knew how to grow and cultivate crops in tropical and semi-tropical climates. African rice growers, for instance, were captured in order to bring their agricultural knowledge to America’s sea islands and those of the Caribbean. Many West African civilizations possessed goldsmiths and expert metal workers on a grand scale. These slaves were snatched to work in Spanish and Portuguese gold and silver mines throughout Central and South America. Contrary to the myth of unskilled labor, large numbers of Africans were anything but.

3) African know-how transformed slave economies into some of the wealthiest on the planet.
The fruits of the slave trade funded the growth of global empires. The greatest source of wealth for imperial France was the “white gold” of sugar produced by Africans in Haiti. More riches flowed to Britain from the slave economy of Jamaica than all of the original American 13 colonies combined. Those resources underwrote the Industrial Revolution and vast improvements in Western Europe’s economic infrastructure.

4) Until it was destroyed by the Civil War, slavery made the American South the richest and most powerful region in America.
Slavery was a national enterprise, but the economic and political center of gravity during the U.S.’s first incarnation as a slave republic was the South. This was true even during the colonial era. Virginia was its richest colony and George Washington was one of its wealthiest people because of his slaves. The majority of the new country’s presidents and Supreme Court justices were Southerners.

However, the invention of the cotton gin took the South’s national economic dominance and transformed it into a global phenomenon. British demand for American cotton, as I have written before, made the southern stretch of the Mississippi River the Silicon Valley of its era. The single largest concentration of America’s millionaires was gathered in plantations along the Mississippi’s banks. The first and only president of the Confederacy—Jefferson Davis—was a Mississippi, millionaire slave holder.

5) Defense of slavery, more than taxes, was pivotal to America’s declaration of independence.
The South had long resisted Northern calls to leave the British Empire. That’s because the South sold most of its slave-produced products to Britain and relied on the British Navy to protect the slave trade. But a court case in England changed all of that. In 1775, a British court ruled that slaves could not be held in the United Kingdom against their will. Fearing that the ruling would apply to the American colonies, the Southern planters swung behind the Northern push for greater autonomy. In 1776, one year later, America left its former colonial master. The issue of slavery was so powerful that it changed the course of history.

6) The brutalization and psychological torture of slaves was designed to ensure that plantations stayed in the black financially.
Slave revolts and acts of sabotage were relatively common on Southern plantations. As economic enterprises, the disruption in production was bad for business. Over time a system of oppression emerged to keep things humming along. This centered on singling out slaves for public torture who had either participated in acts of defiance or who tended towards noncompliance. In fact, the most recalcitrant slaves were sent to institutions, such as the “Sugar House” in Charleston, S.C., where cruelty was used to elicit cooperation. Slavery’s most inhumane aspects were just another tool to guarantee the bottom line.

7) The economic success of former slaves during Reconstruction led to the rise of the Ku Klux Klan.
In less than 10 years after the end of slavery, blacks created thriving communities and had gained political power—including governorships and Senate seats—across the South. Former slaves, such Atlanta’s Alonzo Herndon, had even become millionaires in the post-war period. But the move towards black economic empowerment had upset the old economic order. Former planters organized themselves into White Citizens Councils and created an armed wing—the Ku Klux Klan—to undermine black economic institutions and to force blacks into sharecropping on unfair terms. Isabel Wilkerson’s Pulitzer Prize-winning book, “The Warmth of Other Suns”, details the targeting of black individuals, as well as entire black communities, for acts of terror whose purpose was to enforce economic apartheid.

8) The desire to maintain economic oppression is why the South was one of the most anti-tax regions of the nation.
Before the Civil War, the South routinely blocked national infrastructure protects. These plans, focused on Northern and Western states, would have moved non-slave goods to market quickly and cheaply. The South worried that such investments would increase the power of the free-labor economy and hurt their own, which was based on slavery. Moreover, the South was vehemently opposed to taxes even to improve the lives of non-slaveholding white citizens. The first public school in the North, Boston Latin, opened its doors in the mid-1600s. The first public school in the South opened 200 years later. Maintenance of slavery was the South’s top priority to the detriment of everything else.

9) Many firms on Wall Street made fortunes from funding the slave trade.
Investment in slavery was one of the most profitable economic activities throughout most of New York’s 350 year history. Much of the financing for the slave economy flowed through New York banks. Marquee names such as JP Morgan Chase and New York Life all profited greatly from slavery. Lehman Brothers, one of Wall Street’s largest firms until 2008, got its start in the slave economy of Alabama. Slavery was so important to the city that New York was one the most pro-slavery urban municipalities in the North.

10) The wealth gap between whites and blacks, the result of slavery, has yet to be closed.
The total value of slaves, or “property” as they were then known, could exceed $12 million in today’s dollars on the largest plantations. With land, machinery, crops and buildings added in, the wealth of southern agricultural enterprises was truly astronomical. Yet when slavery ended, the people that generated the wealth received nothing.

The country has struggled with the implications of this inequity ever since. With policy changes in Washington since 1865, sometimes this economic gulf has narrowed and sometimes it’s widened, but the economic difference has never been erased. Today, the wealth gap between whites and blacks is the largest recorded since records began to be kept three decades ago.









"I'm just trying to make a way out of no way, for my people" -Modejeska Monteith Simpkins









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I saw this movie, and it really was a pretty good movie.  Of course it did not capture the totality of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade within a two hour span of time, but it did touch on some truths about the horrors, sadism, brutality, heartbreak of slavery in America.  The movie also, touched on the very subject that ALL American historians try to ignore, whitewash, and propagandize out of the history of slavery, and that is the sexual rape, brutalization, and trafficking of African women for the pleasure of White men.  It also painted the true character of a Black slaver in Fox's 'role playing'.


Samuel L. Jackson deserves an Oscar for the way he played the role of the quintessential housenigger to a 'T'.  


Before anyone writes this movie off as Spike Lee did in his statement,  “The only thing I can say is it’s disrespectful to my ancestors,", I think that you will find the tribute to our ancestors, to our Race, in the title, . . . "Unchained", which infers that had the playing field been level (even a little bit), things would have turned out very different for the African slave, African Americans, in this country, and of course in turn, for Africa. 

"Spaghetti Western" or not, it was a good movie.  Tarantino has nothing to apologize for, he did a very good job in this movie, expressing so much in a two hour span of time.  

Tarantino just needs to stay away from reporters for a while, and have a sit-down with some of his African American friends as to what to say and what not to say to reporters that are trying to grill a 30-second sound-bite out of him.

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    I probably WON'T see the movies because of its violent content...however, I do appreciate your assessment Sista Sunnubian.   I lost respect for Spike when he FILMED his OWN sister doing a sex scene.  I found that incestous.  Spike is just JEALOUS that he isn't getting good films...but when he did "the girl gotta have it" he set in stone PAYBACK in the future.  Now that it's here....HANDLE IT!!!  You did it to yourself when you disrespected sistas when producing this film.   So suck it up and move on.  Whatever goes around...finally comes.  As in NOW!!!   But!

 . . . but, 


then there is this :


'Django Unchained' Action Figure Stokes Debate

Among journalists, reactions to the toys were mostly a version of "Oh, no, they didn't!"

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Some Editors Failed to See No-Brainer Story

The controversy over Quentin Tarantino's "Django Unchained," in which slavery is the backdrop for a spaghetti Western, ratcheted up a notch over the weekend when freelance entertainment journalist Karu F. Daniels, writing in the Daily Beast, reported that the movie characters -- slaves and slavemaster -- are being marketed as action figures.

"Little White kids can play Calvin J. Candie and make Django and Stephen 'Mandingo fight' or they act like they're selling Broomhilda or just call them 'nigger' all day long. The possibilities are endless," Columbus, Ohio, blogger Jeff Winbush wrote on Facebook when he heard the news.

On Monday, a customer reviewer identified as E. Tucker wrote:

"I have to say, I never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that, unlike myself, my kids would someday have the opportunity to re-enact America's slave trade the way my great-grandfather did!  How exciting for them! Never mind those silly dolls showing racial equality and putting "black americans" (hah! is that the word we want to really use here?) in a positive light -- no! With this, my kids can experience first-hand what it might have been like to own their very own slave! . . . "

By Monday, Hassan Hartley of Chicago had started a petition on asking Tarantino to "Stop the sale and distribution of 'slave' action figures." And in Los Angeles, "A coalition of civil rights and African-American community leaders," led by Najee Ali of Project Islamic Hope, planned a news conference for Tuesday calling for a national boycott of the action figures, reported.

As news, the story was a no-brainer, right? Wrong, Daniels told Journal-isms. "This story shouldn't have been ignored -- especially by editors at mainstream outlets," he said by email. "i was even shocked. I pitched this two weeks ago to prominent 'news' outlets. so happy the Daily Beast editor (who's British) GOT IT." The British editor was Gabe Doppelt; Daniels wouldn't identify those who turned it down, saying he still does business with them.

Asked for comment, the Daily Beast provided this statement from Allison Samuels, the senior writer who edited the piece:

"An action figure made of a black man, real or fictitious is not something that happens every day so we felt it was well worth discussing. Given the controversy already swirling around 'Django' taking a deeper look at a doll based on a freed slave has certainly been of great interest to our readers on The Daily Beast."

Here's how the story made it online, as Daniels explained it in an email:

"I got a press release about the product line/partnership a few months before the movie came out, but seeing the actual images of them later on took it to another level. I didn't see the movie until after it opened. I'm no Spike Lee, but something about it didn't sit too right with me," Daniels said.

"And I like some of Tarantino's stuff and love the actors' works. But the idea of dolls -- which were put on sale a week before -- stirred something inside of me. Granted, there's an 'action figure' of the Brad Pitt character from 'Inglourious Basterds.' I saw that was selling for $700. But he wasn't a slave. Certain types of people can try to rationalize it how they want to, but the fact remains: none of those characters in Tarantino's other movies were slaves.

"If you want take [a] light and lively approach to the 'idea of these dolls,' Django could work (he was free, kicking ass and taking names throughout most of the movie. But Stephen and Broomhilda weren't. And that's not funny.)

"The radio silence about the dolls was quite jarring, to say the least. I'm always encouraged to pitch pieces that are 'broad' and 'timely' to editors. And you can't get no more broad and timely than this piece. Hollywood and the entertainment media have had a romantic love affair with this movie. People can form their own opinions why. So it's pretty obvious why some outlets wouldn't touch it. And The Weinstein Company spent a lot of dollars in advertising. But the facts are the facts. The dolls were made and marketed in tandem with a controversial movie about slavery."

In his Daily Beast story, Daniels wrote, ". . . Last fall, the National Entertainment Collectibles Association, Inc. (NECA), in tandem with the Weinstein Company, announced a full line of consumer products based on characters from the movie. . . . After repeated attempts to get someone to go on record about the collection, NECA spokesperson Leonardo Saraceni declined to make anyone available, would not comment and referred all queries to the Weinstein Company. No one at the Weinstein Company was available for comment by deadline and no one responded to questions posed."

Daniels continued for Journal-isms, "In a sense, I understand why publicists from the movie studio and toy company wouldn't speak, but getting some of our folks to talk was another ball of wax. I reached out to many talking heads, pundits and self-styled image experts, who I thought would've been perfect for the piece. All silent.

"At first I thought it was the holiday weekend. But it's 2013. People are more accessible than ever before. How do you think I corralled an Academy Award winner (Louis Gossett, Jr.) and a real, legendary image activist (Bethann Hardison). I was told by a black film expert that they couldn't talk to me for the piece because they didn't want to infuriate Harvey Weinstein.

"Another told me, 'oh, it's just a movie. It's just toys.' Contrast always makes a great story and I was really hoping for more of a reaction from some but it's like what Nick Charles(a former boss) used to say to me, 'everyone is always waiting for the shoe to drop.' And once the story finally went live on Sunday, the social networks were ablaze."

. . . Movie's Critics Say, "Oh, No, They Didn't!"

Among journalists, the most common reaction to the news of the "Django Unchained" action figures was a version of "oh, no, they didn't!"

Journal-isms asked some who had written or otherwise opined about director Quentin Tarantino's so-called "revenge fantasy" whether the existence of the action figures should change one's opinion about the movie and/or the phenomenon. They replied by email:

Amy Alexander, media writer

News of the "Django Unchained" 'action figures' creates a bad taste, doesn't it? Even if it is the case that the studio marketing division cooked up this 'tie in,' it still ultimately circles back to the creative team behind the film itself, in particular Tarantino. At the very least, it is in poor taste, considering the fact that the bondage of blacks is the main theme of the story. It does make you wonder who officially 'green-lit' such a dubious and insulting marketing strategy. And correctly or not, it feeds the escalating criticism of Tarantino as an out of control hipster who thinks he gets 'the Black Thing' but doesn't really.

Amy Alexander website: Three Ways of Considering Tarantino's "Django Unchained"

Jelani Cobb, associate professor of history and director of the Institute of African American Studies, University of Connecticut

It doesn't change my opinion of the movie since I thought the film was exploitative of slavery in the first place. I do think this adds a new level of distaste. It should be fairly obvious that making slave action figures is problematic. That the studio didn't recognize this supports my belief that this director lacked the sensitivity to handle a project like this.

Jelani Cobb, the New Yorker: Tarantino Unchained (Jan. 2)

Jarvis DeBerry, columnist, | the Times-Picayune, New Orleans

In his book "Why Black People Tend to Shout," Ralph Wiley talks about taking a field trip from school -- I think it was to the circus -- and being sold a Confederate battle flag that he proudly waved all the way back home. When he walked into the house, his mother took a match and incinerated it.

I wish I had a story as dramatic, but I don't. I seem to recall a Hot Wheels car in my house -- OK, in my room -- that had the Confederate flag logo on it. It was the General Lee of "Dukes of Hazard" fame. I bring that up to say that I guess there's a history of regrettable images fashioned into toys.

I'm going to link to this email a column I wrote a while back not about toys but about play, and how even that can be fraught for black children.

I wouldn't necessarily mind the figure of Django being sold as an action figure, but if you sell Django, it would seem to me, you'd have to sell his nemeses. And in that, you're going to run into problems. Who's going to buy the white action figures? White children? And do we really want them to play the role of little budding slave owners? And if black children buy the white slave owner figures, then we got a whole 'nother problem on our hands.

I don't know that this information changes my mind about the movie itself. There's enough reason already to raise eyebrows at Tarantino. But it does make me shake my head and wish somebody had -- to borrow a line from Blazing Saddles -- cut this off at the pass.

Jarvis DeBerry, | The Times-Picayune: 'Django' expresses an anger not every filmmaker can show (Dec. 31) 

Tony Norman, columnist, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

I think I dislike the film even more, now . . . LOL! Action figures? Really? A Stephen doll? I know there's an unseemly nostalgia in some quarters for Jim Crow and slavery-related collectibles, but this is ridiculous. This is either a very elaborate joke or a sign that we're on the verge of losing our collective minds. This is what happens when we go out of our way not to talk about race. The conversation we should be having gets sublimated into soul sucking nonsense like this. Who will buy this? Irony-drenched white hipsters? Blacks with non-existent self-esteem? Clueless movie nerds? If nothing else avails itself, I'll write a parody column for Friday. Tomorrow's column is already written.

Tony Norman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: 'Django' tells tale missing real slave history(Dec. 25)

Ishmael Reed, poet, novelist, cultural critic

It's like a virtual slave auction and shows that Weinstein and Co. will go to any length to make money from this vile film, which, like "Amistad," "Lincoln" and "Django Unchained" has blacks as onlookers, while whites debate their fate, when, without black direct action, there would have been no Emancipation. My idea for an action figure would be one showing [Jamie] Foxx carrying [Leonardo] Di Caprio and [ChristophWaltz on his back, because they're getting all of the nominations, while, so far, Foxx and Kerry Washington are receiving none. This latest racist travesty is not unique in Hollywood, which makes you wonder why there has been no outcry about segregated Hollywood's receiving over $400 million in tax write-offs, while the latest figures show $10 billion in earnings.

Finally, the spin from Weinstein Co. is that this movie is similar to Tarantino's other mess, "Inglorious Basterds." Not so. In "Django Unchained," the leader of the state, "Hitler," is murdered. Foxx does not get to murder the prospective confederate presidentJefferson Davis. That would have turned off southern audiences, who have had a veto over Hollywood content for decades. [W.E.B.Du Bois, [MarcusGarvey and Walter White would turn over in their graves to see this thing nominated for awards by the NAACP.

Ishmael Reed, Wall Street Journal: Black Audiences, White Stars and 'Django Unchained' (Dec. 28)

Touré, co-host, "The Cycle," MSNBC; contributor, Time magazine

I will never understand how Django action figures are somehow over the line for some people.

Touré, blog: Django Unchained is a heroic love story (Dec. 24)

Touré, "The Cycle," MSNBC: America is ready for 'Django Unchained' (video)

Jeff Winbush, blogger, Columbus, Ohio:

I broke down, woke up Saturday morning, grabbed my son and went off to catch a screening of Django Unchained, Quentin Tarantino's mash-up of spaghetti westerns, blaxploitation films and revenge fantasies. I came out two hours and 45 minutes later feeling it wasn't Tarantino's best and it wasn't his worst. It was okay. Nothing more. It certainly never rose above pure escapist fare. I have no problem with junk food movies, but let's not pretend like Tarantino has anything new, fresh or original to say about race or slavery. He just knows how to kill the maximum number of cartoon bigots in the most graphic way possible.

However, the Django action figures go far beyond bad taste. It's not kitsch. It's not memorabilia. It's not a gag. It's making a buck off the backs of Black people and it's insensitive as hell at best and borderline racist at worst.

Tarantino's status as a White Hipster who is down with the brothers and sisters has been reaffirmed by the enthusiastic support of African-American audiences for Django Unchained. Goody-goody gumdrops for him. But he has no ghetto pass to profiteer from America's original Holocaust and even if it means I won't be considered one of the cool kids, I refuse to join the stampede to anoint Tarantino as some great thinker on the Original Sin.

He's not. He's just another race hustler.









Petitioning Quentin Tarantino, Weinstein Co. and NECA - D'Jango Unchained Slave Dolls 


Quentin Tarantino, Weinstein Co. and NECA - D'Jango Unchained Slave Dolls: Stop the sale of DJango Unchained slave dolls.

    1. Tenaya Jackson
    3. Petition by

      Tenaya Jackson

      Los Angeles, United States

  2.  Black people who were brought here from Africa did not come willingly. They were kidnapped, raped, murdered, lynched, ripped away from their families, and forced to work in extremely harsh conditions. Before the captured African natives even made it to the shores of the Americas, many of them died on the way from planking (bodies stacked upon bodies), famine and disease. Children born on the voyage to America were tossed overboard. They were looked upon as cargo not human beings!

Even today many families who are descendants of African slaves have suffered atrocities while being in this country. Issues of racism, abandonment, displacement, lack of value of life and self-worth from families being disheveled plague African Americans today. Young and old. The trivailization depicted in these dolls further is makes a mockery of our ancestors bloodshed, pain and suffering.


Simply, these companies and entities are capitalizing off of the pain and suffering of African slaves. In return, these companies are giving nothing back the sufferings of the decendents of African slaves. Ask yourself, why aren't they offering 100% of the profits to go back to the families who are descendants of the African slaves brought here. Or why not give the profits to the African American communities across America who suffer from lack of resources and opportunity that disenfranchises our communities. What these companies giving back to you, your family and community to strengthen positive growth and opportunity?


This petition is created to educate and stop the further desensitization of the pain that our ancestors have suffered behind being slaves in American. Generations have suffered and are still suffering till this day. I can't even imagine what my ancestors with through. My heart is heavy with the amount of despair, pain and suffering they had to live through for hundreds of years (1619-1865). Would you have made it?


In closing, the premise for making a profit off the sufferings of our ancestors holocaust is simply wrong. Slavery was not fun nor was it comical. When are you going to stand up and say..enough is enough!!! Let not their sufferings and blood be in vein. Change starts with you. Today.





Tenaya Jackson




  This is the shit I'm talking about.  Instead being pissed about a focking are raising MONEY through those focking petitions to fund afterschool programs....or to purchase books or equipment?  Why get your boxers in a bunch about a fictious character that DIDN'T even exist in slavery?  Why?  Cuz it hurts their manhood.  Yall gonna be focking mad over this when there are black teens entering the juvenile system EVERYDAY  cuz there is NOT enough male mentors like yall  in their community to guide them.  This is the fight you pick?  A doll?  GTFOH!!!!  You should be concern over the fact that they don't even teach about slavery the way they should anymore.  Just in bits and pieces.


It's sad that everytime there is a threat to a focking "image" that's the ONLY time you will hear from blackfolks.  If these folks especially the brothas cared sooooo much  about slavery....they wouldn't have abandoned the younger brothers in the hood.  It would have NEVER EVER black on black crime.  Gangs.  Let's STAY in the present day....shall we?  Slavery for us is over....but!  It doesn't mean we are not enslaved.  Wake up!  And pick a fight that's gonna benefit the people.  Stop trying to make a name for yourself over a focking stupid MOVIE!!!   It's like I always say...Superfly is dead.  Live in real time.  That's where real life is. But! 

Slavery's not over.  The same atrocities that happened during slavery happens in the Prison Industrial Complex.  Rape, torture, executions, etc., etc.  We complain about these "white" people day-after-day-after-day.  Yet, here we are calling ourselves "Americans".  Watch a couple hours of Tru-TV and ask yourselves, "Is this what I want to be?"


Had slavery begun in Japan or China, would we be calling ourselves African-Japanese or African-Chinese?


Please, the European is mental and we're mental.  Crazy leading Crazy.  What we really need is a serious vacation from each other and it would be a wonderful thing if we could all do it permanently.


I'd like all "white" people to know that I'm as sick of them as they are of me, and I can't do a damn thing about it but try to stay the hell out of your clutches. Once upon a time it was only myself I had to worry about, but the family has grown in leaps and bounds.  I'll worry about them all until the day I die, but the "beat will keep going on."


White people HATE Africans, but Massa made sure we became related.  You all need to embrace your African COUSINS.  Another thing:  A whole bunch of us LOOK JUST LIKE YOU and you don't even realize this.  America the sick, sick society, that calls itself the "Greatest Country in the World."  Quaint!!!!!

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Slavery's not over.  The same atrocities that happened during slavery happens in the Prison Industrial Complex.  Rape, torture, executions, etc., etc.  We complain about these "white" people day-after-day-after-day.  Yet, here we are calling ourselves "Americans".  Watch a couple hours of Tru-TV and ask yourselves, "Is this what I want to be?"


Had slavery begun in Japan or China, would we be calling ourselves African-Japanese or African-Chinese?


Please, the European is mental and we're mental.  Crazy leading Crazy.  What we really need is a serious vacation from each other and it would be a wonderful thing if we could all do it permanently.


I'd like all "white" people to know that I'm as sick of them as they are of me, and I can't do a damn thing about it but try to stay the hell out of your clutches. Once upon a time it was only myself I had to worry about, but the family has grown in leaps and bounds.  I'll worry about them all until the day I die, but the "beat will keep going on."


White people HATE Africans, but Massa made sure we became related.  You all need to embrace your African COUSINS.  Another thing:  A whole bunch of us LOOK JUST LIKE YOU and you don't even realize this.  America the sick, sick society, that calls itself the "Greatest Country in the World."  Quaint!!!!!


  I agree that we are still enslaved in some way or form....but!  Slavery as it existed in the new world i.e. America is OVER!!!!  But again, that doesn't mean we aren't ACTING like slaves.  Cuz many of us are.  However, slavery was born out of prisioner of war system derived by the enemy also called the spoils of the war or the booty of the war.  During a very primitive time in early civilization, after a conquer won, it was customary to enslave the remaining captives.  As a matter of fact, this was standard worldwide.  Many who lose the battle against their adversary became prisoners of war and was initiated as slaves in the conqueror's land.  Many conquerors also enslaved the women and placed them in harems i.e. middle east and forcibly enlisted captives to fight for them.  Others killed entire villages taking no prisoners/hostages.  Prisons are set up with the SAME mentality.  And there is where homosexuality i.e. or brutal man-love was created.  As why is prisons all over the world share some form of this behavior as standard.  And why when some prisoners are released they are not able to live their lives as heterosexual becoming what we call in Amerca as being "on the down low." 


But getting back to slavery, this is a human cancer that has existed as long as men have been fighting against each other.  It has evolved from the tradition angst of war, to the Arab and Transatlantic Slave trade.  The latter being new.  Now today we have to deal with human trafficking which is the SAME as slavery back in the day except there are more victims of slavery today than it EVER was. Cuz over there, the poor is still being encoached by the rich and powerful using customs as a defense to do harm, 


In the book " The destruction of black civilizations," it goes into deep details regarding HOW captives were turned into slave soldiers and sex slaves.  So I'm saying all this to say that YES you are correct sista Norland slavery in a sense is not over especially underground and aboard, it just an evolution of subliminal human genocide that hides under different diguises....however my point is it is not just massa or have only been just massa perpetrating this inhumane act-he learned it from the Asians.  As is why slavery in full force continues on that side of the hemisphere as if it was never eradicated,


But!  America like it or not.....from where I see,,,,is PROBABLY the best seat in town currently.  Yes, we have these neanderthal racists....but!  It is enough of them with a conscious that allowed the wall of slavery to come tumbling down here.   And that has a lot to do with christanity.  Again....if it done anything positive....christianity SAVED women and children.  Giving women their rights to their own bodies and children rights to their childhood.  As a result, our civilization has soared in less than 200 years.  That's HUGE.  So with all the other little annoying things massa does....I take that for $20 Alex anytime! Cuz change happens in increments.  And so far, the other side hasn't socially changed since the 7th century.    And that's really something to ponder!  But!  Just sayin

Legendary Activist, Comedian Dick Gregory On ‘Django Unchained’: Spike Lee Is A Punk And A Thug [VIDEO]

Dick Gregory. Spike LeeLegendary social activist, comedian, and author Dick Gregory weighed in on the controversial Quentin Tarantino film “Django Unchained,” and he made some controversial comments about film director Spike Lee.

In an interview posted to, Gregory says that the movie spoke to him in ways that no film had in all his years on earth. He then calls out Lee for criticizing a film that he’s never seen, saying that if anyone has created movies that are disrespectful to our ancestors, it’s Lee himself:

I’ve seen ‘Django Unchained’ 12 times. Never in the history of Hollywood, have they ever made anything that freed the inside of me. The inside of me. I’m 80-years-old, I saw cowboy movies, wasn’t no Black folks in cowboy movies. I’m looking at a Western, plus a love story. To those of you all that see it, you’ll never see a love story about a Black man and a Black woman where it wasn’t some foul sex and foul language, huh. And Spike Lee can’t appreciate that. The little thug ain’t even seen the movie; he’s acting like he White.

So it must be something personal. And all them Black entertainers that know Spike Lee, how you gone attack this man and don’t be attacking them … and then say everyone’s a fool but me. [Talking about] ‘it offended my ancestors,’ but when you did ‘She’s Got To Have It’ and some of those other thug movies you did…you took Malcolm X and put a Zoot suit on him…did that offend your ancestors, punk?

It’s a game, man. So whatever he’s mad about is something that happened way, way long ago. Thank God it didn’t work [to stop the movie from being successful].

I'm in agreement with Dick Gregory regarding Spike Lee, of all people to have the nerve to criticize what is "disrespectful to his (our) ancestors".  In my opinion, Spike Lee has only made three movies that were not insulting to African Americans, and that was Malcolm X and Miracle at St. Anna, and Mo' Better Blues, (I'm not counting his documentaries in the comparison).

  You see...I'm not the ONLY one who sees SPIKE for what he truly is.  Brotha Dick.   Always tellin it like it "T.I." is.  Now that's a brotha who really KNOWS what's going on cuz he LIVED IT and is able to tell ya about it.  So  I suggest yall read his book "No More Lies."  Now that's a book that'll really tell ya what happened between the cowboys and the indians i.e, Native Americans.   I agree Spile is a thug fool.  Girl gotta to have it....was film disrespectful not only to black women....but!  To his black grandma who gave him her social security checks to go to college to learn how to make movies....and just look at what KIND of movies he made with her money.  Disgraceful! I know she's rolling over in her grave.  Pimping his grandma.  Now that's disrespect to our ancestors.  What about that Spike?  Using your granny to make films that exploit black women.  Pitiful.  But! 

The majority of movies produced and directed by blacks does nothing but disrespect and insult blacks. That premise is busted. So why is Spike Lee the lone villain? Did Spike say something unfavorable about ‘the lord and Savior’ in the White House? It's disappointing to see Dick Gregory go off on a unsubstantiated tirade like this. And it’s even more disturbing to see how easily black people can be manipulated over fictional shit. Django is a freaking movie. A remake. The original movie didn’t have Django as a slave because he wasn't a black character. Tarantino used slavery as a tool to lure black actors and viewers to get a broader  audience. Tarantino doesn't give a damn about black people or black history, but does care about black dollars. And screen hungry negroes love to make these people filthy rich. 


To my knowledge, Spike never said or done anything to Mr. Gregory to warrant this type of response. 'A thug and a punk', really? Thugs and punks are killers. Spike never killed anybody, but President Obama has. It would be refreshing to see Mr. Gregory use that same passion to chastise the president (which he has failed to do on a number of occasions) for his global assassination program and fascist indoctrination of the NDAA. Many of the great civil rights advocates & black liberation movements Mr. Gregory often talks about with immense pride such as Dr. King, brother Malcolm X, SCLC, and the BPP, all would be charged enemy combatants and whisk away to Guantanamo under Obama's NDAA and Patriot Act. Mr. Gregory should be an advocate against these unconstitutional amendments and reevaluate the real thugs and punks, but wont. 


It's acceptable for Dick to freak out over Spike rather than go after an opportunistic, closet racist like Tarantino who uses the N word with impunity. You see, white boys like Tarantino think they have a lofty use of the N word because they have a black ‘friend’, sex a black partner, or put out a movie that targets the black audience. And once again, screen hungry simple-minded negroes overlook this for instant self-gratification. If you analyze his films, you will see the subliminal negative references that are used. Tarantino also perpetuates the white savior variety in his bs movies e.g, Bruce Willis saves big black gangster Ving Rhames from being raped. No comment from Mr. Gregory. Italians are notoriously racist and jealous of blacks whether they are from this country or Italy. They talk a lot bullshit and push the envelope on the bravado thing, but can't back it up.


I'm just curious, if Mr. Gregory has so much concern about the delivery of blacks in Hollywood, why didn’t he go after Bad Ass, Harlem Nights, Jackie Brown, Training Day, Monsters Ball? But the negative Dick Gregory berates Spike for opening doorways for other black actors whom otherwise were unheard of and would not had the opportunity to showcase their talent. Spike allowed more blacks to see that they can do more than just act but also write, direct, and produce movies. Can Tarantino say this? How many blacks does Tarantino have behind the camera? Let's see the same leveled reaction from critical ass negroes on Tarantino. 

Let's talk about black exploitation movies, shall we? These are the movies deemed "super ni**ers" whether the star is a man or woman. Starting with the "Soul of Nigger Charlie" filmed in the 70s to "Call me Mr. Tibbs."  Let's not forget  Shaft.   Now we can argue all day long about what European is more racist against blackfolks.  My opinion is ALL Europeans are especially the Irish and the Germans....but!  That's another topic. But truth is from Super Fly to Sweet Sweet Sweetback at the time a lot of us were just GLAD to see a black face on screen. True? Or are you toooooo young to remember that?  We never knew or even thought that those films were psychological components to sabbotage our ability to move forward in our culture. It succeeded. Twenty years or so years gang banging destroyed two generations of blackfolks,  So to answer your question Brotha Dissent regarding if Spike if the lone ranger, no he is not the lone ranger, he is a SELFISH thug. Cuz when he was producing films with the SAME type of sabbotaging components, he defended it by citing artistic license, even though he OPENLY disrespected Black WOMEN!!!!!! Let's not tip toe around this issue, cuz last I saw through women is how children are born. So why disrespect the very person that brought you in the world? Hasn't massa done enough of that?  Oh no Spike wanted to do MORE.


I disagree that the sole purpose for Tarantino is the almighty dollar. But that's my assessment. He could have USED any popular WHITE actor he wanted, Travolta, Cruise, to play this character. However he used artistic license as many of us artists do to flavor the message of the story,   Cuz in the black expoitation films many white producers DIDN'T care what the black audience felt about their portrayal of black WAS all about the almighty dollar cuz for the most part there wasn't ANY black characters on film other than the subservant ones. Williamson, Belafonte and even Poiter at some point played characters that disrespected the African American plight. But! It isn't anything like what Super Fly or present-day underground rappers have done to the psyche of young black men. Oh no. Spike is a hyprocrite. Now that's he is older he STILL won't admit his disservice to the image of black women,. It is an insult. Yes we had "Get Christie Love, Foxy Brown[not the rapper] etc that exaggerated the image of black women.....but! It was a positive and empowering for those of us women under the hammer of both massa and black men. Yes I said Black men. Cuz for many black men....who were beaten down by white society...they came home and returned the favor of that beat down onto the ones who loved them-Black Women! No?


Movies were  initially designed to entertain and to take the audience in a fantasy land type of mindset...but! What they  found that it could always be used to manipulate self-esteem and promote white heroicism. Both have worked.  Dick Gregory is correct in his assessment of Spike Lee from my perspective anyway...since I am a black woman who have been insulted by Spike for FAR TOO LONG!!! Like rappers, Spike is stuck in his own self-serving arrogance. He walks around as if he has done great things but will not acknowledge in his work that this great work is because of a BLACK WOMAN. She made his dream come true....and what does he do with it? EXPLOIT BLACK WOMEN including his sister. Now that he has girls. Oh boy now the fun REALLY begins.....but!


In addition, Monster ball in my assessment was as significant as Mandingo,  Cuz I see a lot of LaTisha's currently in raw reality shows and female artists,  Like Bad Girls and Atlanta Housewives for one and Lil Kim, Foxy Brown and presently Nicki Minaj for two.


It is my thought that Tarantino called Spike and told him to make a stink out of this movie for controversey to get MORE folks to go see it.  It both benefits the movie and put Spike's NAME back out there for those investors who's looking to do a black film,  That's how the game is played in Hollywood. You never really know the true motivation behind a fallout.  And...this makes more SENSE to me.  Just a thought to ponder.  But.  Just sayin 


'Django Unchained' producers order end to film's action figures




LOS ANGELES -- The producers of Quentin Tarantino's "Django Unchained" on Friday ordered a halt to the production of action figures based on the Oscar-nominated slavery movie after criticism that they were offensive to African-Americans. via NECA


The eight-inch dolls, which were intended for people 17 and older, included gun-slinging freed slave Django, his wife and cruel, white plantation owner Candie. 


"Django Unchained" has been attacked by some African-Americans for its portrayal of slavery and its violence. Despite the controversy, the film was nominated for five Oscars, including best picture. 


Civil rights leader Al Sharpton's National Action Network was among the groups that criticized the action figures. 


"Selling this doll is highly offensive to our ancestors and the African-American community," K.W. Tulloss, president of the Los Angeles branch of National Action Network, told the New York Daily News. 


"The movie is for adults, but these are action figures that appeal to children," Tulloss told the paper. "We don't want other individuals to utilize them for their entertainment, to make a mockery of slavery." 


The Weinstein Co, which produced "Django Unchained," said in a statement on Friday that in light of the reaction to the dolls it had ordered production to stop. 


"We have tremendous respect for the audience and it was never our intent to offend anyone," the company said. 


The action figures were sold by the National Entertainment Collectibles Association, which could not be reached for comment on Friday. 

The producers noted that action figures have been produced for all of Tarantino's past films, including his World War Two revenge fantasy "Inglourious Basterds" in 2009. 


"Django Unchained" stars Jamie Foxx, Christoph Waltz and Leonardo DiCaprio and has taken in some $130 million at U.S. and Canadian box offices since its release on Dec. 25.

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  this thing is acting up again.  Anyway....why is Kerry's character named Broomhilda?  Was is the significance behind that?    Is that a name of a witch?  What were they thinking?  What is the psychological reasoning behind it?  Just wondering!  But!


Broomhilder is the name of a German princess who is condemned and imprisoned in a tower that is guarded by a fire breathing dragon and surrounded by a ring of fire and the only way she can be rescued is if the [hero] can make it through the ring of fire and slay the dragon . . . 

Originally Posted by sunnubian:
Originally Posted by Yemaya:

We're still talking about Spike Lee and Dick Gregory AND Django... Let those who have an ear HEAR.


Come on Yemaya, you're not even going to let us watch a movie and critique it?

Is is really worth ALL this conversation? But okay, I give.  Django = Shango. I'll give you all your moment to ponder on it... shame the white boy knows more about US than we do.

  I've learned through the years that having discussion regarding passionate issues....keeps it from fesering from within.  As we have seen in history in way of riots, civil unrest etc.  So it's gooooood to talk about it.   Black folks in general don't like to talk about things that bothers them....and what happens with our children, many do not have the skills to process it and when it explodes most times into violence.  That's why I believe in psychology/psychiatry tools for our community cuz there are a lotta folks holding stuff in and are unable to handle the built up down the line.  Sooooooooo getting it out is a good thing...even though there are those who don't wanna hear it.   But!

@Dissident:  Yes Spike did do something....WRONG.  He contributed to the DISRESPECT of black women in his films.  If he were soooooo passionate about the black experience, he would have JOINED Greogory as contemporary to combat the negative images of black women and men ON screen as a young producer,  But did he?  Nawl.  And may I say that there is a subliminal arrogance of self-entitlement in the young generation of blackfolks.  They smear their ignorance on screen and video[by disrespecting black women and inciting visual violence]...and then want the WORLD to stop when they get older maturing a little and thus realize the mistake they made in misrepresenting our culture.  Has Spike apologized for his misdeeds?  That would be a HELLLLLLLL NO.    Old schoolers like me were offended back then and even now.  Spike set the stage of degrading and deteriorating the image  of an already dilapated perception of black folks.  Now those black exploitation films?  They were mostly made by white producers who as I stated before really "didn't give a damn."  Cuz they KNEW black folks back then were soooooo DESPERATE to see their image on screen...and at the time THAT WAS HUGE.  Even if it's Ron O'neal playing Superfly the arrogant pimp Priest having sex in the bathtub with actress Sheila Frazier.   It was disgusting to watch but not if you were black in the 1970s looking for some form of public validation.  I didn't hear West protest this film either back then.  I'm sure he was one of the many black college students going to see it.  So it is hyprocritcal for Spike to now have something to say when his goal in the beginning of his career was to make that almighty dollar.  He didn't care about his ANCESTORS.  That's bullshit.


I'm just curious, if Mr. Gregory has so much concern about the delivery of blacks in Hollywood, why didn’t he go after Bad Ass, Harlem Nights, Jackie Brown, Training Day, Monsters Ball? But the negative Dick Gregory berates Spike for opening doorways for other black actors whom otherwise were unheard of and would not had the opportunity to showcase their talent.


Excuse me.  But I totally disagree with your assessment my brotha.  Spike didn't open up doors for other actors.  He used them as other unknown producers did cuz he didn't have the bank roll to pay established black actors.


Spike allowed more blacks to see that they can do more than just act but also write, direct, and produce movies.


Oh yeah?  I'm curious.  I always thought it was blackfolks like Belafonte, Poiter, Crosby who set the stage for upcoming producers.  Spike was merely riding on their coat tails.  Remember he's not that old.  And the film industry has been around since the early 1920s.


Can Tarantino say this? 


Why would he?  He's not black.


How many blacks does Tarantino have behind the camera?


I dunno.  But I'm sure Spike is not known for having an all black camera crew,  That's not in his DNA.


Let's see the same leveled reaction from critical ass negroes on Tarantino.


You won't see it.  And I think folks expect too much from Tarantino, he is a white boy you know.  Why would he care regarding the plight of blackfolks?  It is NOT his fight.


My brotha I think I'm missing something from your commentary.  I'm really trying hard to understand.   I'm a little older than you probably and from Cali, home of Hollywood.  So I've witnessed the birth of many upcoming black producers in my time trying to make a name for themselves.   And I have been MORE ashamed as a black person than proud cuz many of 'em sold out..especially Melvin Van Peebles when he produced sweet sweet sweetback.  What a mynogist film!  And testimony of how far we STILL have to go in the film industry.  Unfortunately, I have seen a lot in my day from wanna be black filmmakers to legitimate ones...maybe I've just seen toooo much.  Probably,  But!   Just sayin....

" . . . shame the white boy knows more about US than we do. "



Now, that is a real shame.  


If 90% of the us really knew our own history, our true history, that alone would unify most of us and only unification is going to save the Black race.  Until that happens the Black race will continue to exist lingering at the mercy and whims of Whites.


Originally Posted by sunnubian:

" . . . shame the white boy knows more about US than we do. "



Now, that is a real shame.  


If 90% of the us really knew our own history, our true history, that alone would unify most of us and only unification is going to save the Black race.  Until that happens the Black race will continue to exist lingering at the mercy and whims of Whites.


Indeed Sunnubian.

@ Dissident


You know my brotha...I've been debating all day online and on the job and I suddenly realized that there is something WRONG with me.  And then it hit me.  My demised son's birthday  is approaching.  And that is WHY I've been sooooo aggressive lately.  I wanna apologize to you.  Although I stand by what I said.  I'm usually not as in your face aggressive unless I'm pissed off.  And you didn't deserve the way I came at you.  You're a respectful brotha....and I apologize for displacing my heartache on to you.  After all these years, I still  miss my son.  Please forgive my behavior.  When I debate...I wanna do it fairly and to share what I know without an attitude unrelated to the    Sorry,  

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

@ Dissident


You know my brotha...I've been debating all day online and on the job and I suddenly realized that there is something WRONG with me.  And then it hit me.  My demised son's birthday  is approaching.  And that is WHY I've been sooooo aggressive lately.  I wanna apologize to you.  Although I stand by what I said.  I'm usually not as in your face aggressive unless I'm pissed off.  And you didn't deserve the way I came at you.  You're a respectful brotha....and I apologize for displacing my heartache on to you.  After all these years, I still  miss my son.  Please forgive my behavior.  When I debate...I wanna do it fairly and to share what I know without an attitude unrelated to the    Sorry,  

Sister Koco, I would like to offer my most sincere condolences for your loss. My brother transitioned last August, so I understand completly the feelings you're experiencing. There's no need to apologize. We may disagree on Obama, but I still love you. That will never change. Like you, I'm passionate and opinionated. Sometimes this irks people the wrong way. All we're doing is sharing ideas and exchanging dialogue, and that's a healthy thing. No matter what I have to say about Obama, please don't take it personal. It's all good. Thanks for reaching out. 

Originally Posted by Raptor:

"Broomhilda" is a german name, yet something tells me quinten had to know that the 'broom' part of that name would lend to a different connotation in the english speaking world, yet cleverly used that name then try to sugarcoat it with giving the german background. 


In short he was trying to be slick.


I don't think that is probably true.  The German fairy tale of Brunhilde (Americans say Broomhilda) is as popular as Cinderella to much of the world, maybe not to Black people, but . . . so, we may be tempted to come to such a conclusion if a Black woman played Cinderella (and Cinderella has been played by a Black woman).  (But, I must say, I've often wondered if Cinderella was really the story of an enslaved or indentured Black girl).



Thank you my brotha.  Your words meant a lot to me.  My deepest condolences to you and your family on your loss.  It's rough when you lose someone close.  I couldn't breathe for a couple of days thinking of my son.  But!  I'm better now.  I know we'll probably be debating tomorrow about somethin-that's what family do.  But until then, here's a BIG hug.  

I saw the movie about two weeks ago and I must say, it lived up to the Quentin Tarantino brand; excessive graphic violence, luridly sadistic with individuals driven by the need to inflict extreme violence and death on their victims and his person obsession with the "N" word.  This is the expected under laying bedrock of his movies (e.g., Pulp Fiction, Inglourious Basterds, Kill Bill, Reservoir Dogs, et al). The film is in two parts: the first half is a mock Western; the second is a mock-revenge uber melodrama about slavery and rescuing of Django’s separated wife.


Tarantino didn't disappoint those who love his penchant for gory disturbing violence and his concupiscent love of the "N" word (probably to the glee of many American Negroes who love the word just as much as he does). But I was surprised to see Samuel Jackson play the part of a virulent and almost demonic master house slave (the term "uncle Tom" is an oxymoron). Love the man's acting but this particular role he accepted really shocked me….

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