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Disappointed in Obama, New Black Panthers openly consider ‘the bullet’



The small but vocal New Black Panther Party is woefully disappointed in President Barack Obama, and is openly implying that the best way to reach its goals is no longer through “the ballot” but through “the bullet.”


In the Spring edition of the New Black Panther Party (NBPP) newspaper — cover reading “The Ballot or The Bullet: which way for black people?” — NBPP Chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz breaks down the presidential election, concluding the Democratic Party is the “institutional pimp of Black peoples and the Black Nation” and that Obama has “been a real disappointment.”


“Black peoples are the whores and prostitutes of the Democratic Party, and mistreated mistress that is courted in the late of night, but left hanging when it is time for real change in the light of the post election day,” Shabazz wrote, following a dissertation on the need to “Vote for Revolution.”


Shabazz detailed his past hopes for Obama as the first African-American president, noting that Obama has not lived up to them — specifically by continuing the policies of the Bush administration in the so-called war on terror and ignoring the economic plight of black Americans.


“The black community is at large no better off that (sic) before he was in office. We are curious as to what his agenda is for Black people in America and if he even has one,” Shabazz added.


The lead editorial in the 36-page publication is written by the paper’s editor, Chawn Kweli, entitled “4 years and a Bucket of Hope: The Change That Never Came,” which describes the group’s excitement, and subsequent disappointment, after Obama was elected.


“Mr. Obama’s policies have not corrected the economic troubles of America, they have gotten worse,” Kweli wrote. “The debt continues to expand [into the trillions], and the administration’s handling of international relations has hardened dialogue with foreign nations. Mr. Obama’s policies have been especially harsh to us the Black community. He [Obama] bailed out Wall Street and the auto makers but kept us at the top of the unemployment ladder.”


Seasonally adjusted black unemployment in America currently stands at 13.0 percent, compared to the entire country’s 8.1 percent.


“With strategy, Obama will sing a little Al Green, do a little dance, and win black votes. Sadly like obedient sheep’s (sic), we go to the polls and vote for ‘Black skin,’ no matter how destructive the policies,” Kweli added.


Republicans, according to Shabazz, are undeserving of African-American votes. He wrote, “Only bootlicking Uncle Toms such as Clarence Thomas and Herman Cain pledge loyalty to this racist party that is overtly contemptuous and hostile to poor and working people, unions, and the like.”


“Black America, you must decide who will best represent you in 2012. You must decide if you will choose the ballot as a means to change, or the bullet,” Shabazz wrote, adding that “demanding change does come by any means necessary.”


According to Shabazz, dropping the 2008 voter intimidation charges against the NBPP was one instance in which Obama did the right thing.


Following Obama’s election the group was charged with voter intimidation when their members were seen standing outside a Philadelphia voting precinct dressed in paramilitary garb, one welding a nightstick in what a witness and former civil rights lawyer described as “the most blatant form of voter intimidation I’ve ever seen.”


The Justice Department dismissed the intimidation charges against the group in 2009, a decision which lead to a U.S. Commission on Civil Rights investigation. Obama’s direct involvement in the case’s dismissal has been only been speculative.

The newspaper also contains articles about the Trayvon Martin case, blacks in science and updates on the group’s National Days of Action.


In late March the NBPP offered a $10,000 bounty for Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman. The group has been denounced by more mainstream civil rights groups and is often labeled a “fringe” organization.


The Southern Poverty Law Center considers the New Black Panther Party a “hate group.”


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These people are crazy.  Why would the ballot or the bullet be our only choice?  Why was he not suggesting this during all the presidencies held by White men?  Why should African Americans be the only group that would even consider "the bullet" as apposed to the process, like 99% of all other Americans.  


Really, 90% of the problems facing African America can be solved by African Americans themselves, but, that would take a unified effort, something the majority of African Americans have shown time after time, that they are unwilling to do.


I have my disappointments with President Obama (same as I have with ALL other American presidents), but in the case of President Obama, Malik Zulu Shabazz, has just glossed over the fact that no American President can do anything without a compliant Congress, which is the major reason that many of the things President Obama promised in his campaign have not come to pass.  

But, for Shabazz to even suggest violence as an avenue for African Americans to take at this stage in our history in America, only points out how ludicrous his rants are, how little intelligence he actually believes that African Americans possess, and that he is merely another run-of-the-mill instigator that is really more likely covert operator for the enemies of Black people in America, than a champion of the Black cause.

Side:  (I was glad to see a while back that the real Black Panthers sent out press releases to make it clear that they were in no way associated with this group.)

I voted for Obama but I didn't expect much but it looks like he was even more of a pawn than I was expecting.  But the systemic problems of America are too big for any president.  The system is out of control and running on inertia. 


Like the planned obsolescence of computers and software is going to solve problems created by the planned obsolescence of cars from the 50s.  The 21st century is going to have a new kind of economic crash because people believe the White folks lies.


You don't manufacture stuff and then ignore its depreciation because consumers bought it.  Automobiles are not like hamburgers.


Even presidents listen to lying economists.



Originally Posted by sunnubian:

I have my disappointments with President Obama (same as I have with ALL other American presidents), but in the case of President Obama, Malik Zulu Shabazz, has just glossed over the fact that no American President can do anything without a compliant Congress, which is the major reason that many of the things President Obama promised in his campaign have not come to pass.  



No, it's not that he has "just glossed over" that fact .... it's that he's completely ignorant of it ... in that he doesn't KNOW that it is indeed the policy and protocol of the American government. 


Which makes him both sad ... and scary ... because he considers himself a "leader" and wants to influence and 'educate' others to his way of thinking.  But, he doesn't know what he's talking about.  So ... he's simply going around giving out false and wrong information .... which is making other Black people that also aren't properly educated about the process as ignorant as he is. 


And it's those kinds of actions that set us two steps back .... for every one step forward that we are able to take.


The President never was the person Mr. Shabazz "hoped" he was going to be.  And if he had of been paying attention during the President's campaign (and knew anything about politics and the way government really works), he would have known better than to "hope" the President was going to be somebody he was not.


The President NEVER said he was going to "do anything about Black unemployment" specifically (Shabazz just "hoped" he would!!).  He SAID he was going to lower the unemployment rate for EVERYBODY .... and he HAS done just that.


So, Mr. Shabazz shouldn't be 'disappointed' in President Obama.  He should be disappointed for disappointing himself ... for having expectations that he was given no reason to have in the first place.


We can do a lot, politically, within the reality of how 'the system' really works ... once we correctly learn how to manipulate our way through it ...  and get what we want/need ... just like every other 'special interest' group. 


But ... if you don't know the rules, you can't possibly win the game 'cause you don't know how to play it.  And those that do will beat you to the finish line every time.  If  the reality of our current condition doesn't make that as plain as the noses on our faces .... I don't know what will. 

The POTUS sets the tone of his Administration. Now if your own party is against the agenda that you set forth during your campaigning and are in the MAJORITY for the first two years of your Administration then there is a MAJOR problem. I get that there is all of this social networking, his appearances on Jimmy Kimmel  etc. etc. that doesn't do anything for me when it comes to policy results. I try to keep it simple, where are the expected results? That's the only questions I have. Further, we never really pressed the POTUS with an agenda of what we wanted to see as AAs. So we are partially to blame for not seeing what we thought would be more progress as we didn't lobby the POTUS. And I'm not talking about the upper middle to wealthy class of AAs. I'm referring to the working people who are just getting by. We have zero representation on the issues that affect us the most. We need a lobby group badly.

  Disappointed?  Who?  Those nuthin azz mofos.  GTFOH!!!! Where the fock they been in the last  30 years?    Mighty funny their black azzes coming out hatin now.  When the crack epidemic was killing our people....where in the fock was the Black Panthers?  New or old.  Don't matter.  Where the fock where they?  And And where the fock were they when our kids were killing each other every day with gang bangin black on black CRIME?    I thought the black panthers were dismantled YEARS ago.  Cuz I NEVER heard a peep outta them. Nada.  Back in the day, I used to a member.  Well I was a teenager...tryin to be cool.  And even then...those kneegrows were doing nothing but wearing black leather jackets with a black tam  trying to get booty from the females.  Many of em were FRONTIN.  Talk about pimpin...those brothas were doing that big off white girls.  Remember SLA? Patti Hearst?  Yeah right.  Those mofos were/are nothing but COWARDS.  They had this thang with the "US" know  with that brotha who created Kwanza.  He was in charge of the US organization and the and the black panthers were arch enemies.  Fighting over territory and WOMEN.  Sound familiar?  Black Panthers my azz.  They need to go somewhere and sit their black OLD decrypted azzes down.  And the new members?  They don't even KNOW.  It's all nothing but HOT air.  There are not ANY true militants anymore.  Not today.  The true brothas are either old, dead or tired.  P.S.  My president don't OWE these tired nothin azz mofos a DAMN THANG!  If I was him.....I would IGNORE them like they have been ignoring the black community for all these years.  They just want to be stars. Just want some press/media time. Free breakfast anyone?   Pitiful. Geez.  They really have a LOTTA focking nerve.   But!

There was a big difference between the real Black Panthers before they were infiltrated by government spies and anarchists.  The fight over women really was a divide in what they thought the woman's role should be, as I understand it, the guy that created Kwanza and those believing what he believed, was a main proponent of women have a subservient role to men, while the other half were not.  


Also, after the government had effectively divided and conquered the Black panthers, they began to kill them off or railroad them to long prison sentences, along with use media propaganda to distort and destroy their image in the minds of, not only Americans in general, but African Americans in particular, along with the many negative aspects and mistakes made by an organization attempting to go up against a centuries old system of racism, hatred, and inequality.  


The real Black Panthers paid some heavy dues for African America, and they did it all alone without the help or concern or assistance of the larger African American community, and without ever being given credit for their brave efforts, consciousness awakenings in Black people, or for programs created like that are now commonplace in this country, like school breakfast programs in public schools.

AMEN to THAT!!!! 



Let me add, though ... that I was still young during the "reign" of the original Black Panthers ... but I did not like or really agree with their persona of violence and intimidation to further the Black cause!!!  I was too young for my mother to let me be "militant" ... and then there was MLK preaching the non-violence approach, which I saw as a better (healthier/non-harmful for Black people) way to go.


However .... there was something in the force and might they projected as a threatening, military-type force that was ready to lock-and-load if necessary to 'put White people in their place'!!!  Which, at the time, IMO ... WAS something that needed to be done!!    White people were out of control .... assassinating those who tried to help us ... turning attack dogs and hoses on Black people merely walking down the street ... calling us the most horrible and vile names in the media ... essentially 'to our faces'. 


There was something in the back of my head that made me think that a couple of well-placed shotgun rounds to people who well deserved it would ... shall we say ... 'make a statement' ... that needed to be said ... but that an MLK would never utter on our behalf!!! 


However ... I'm glad matters never came to such a 'race war' ... and that we followed this path towards equality and justice ... instead of one that would have resulted in the deaths of many more of our ancestors and civil rights activists than actually did.

  Well....all I know is in my neck of the woods...the only uprising that occurred after the onset of the black panthers....were gangs, a crack-cocaine epidemic and the deterioration of the black community.  Oh yea...they made a little noise, implemented a breakfast program, gotta little press time....but!  The ramifications of it all, seems to me, were the angry young black men who turned on each other....and sold drugs in the own neighborhoods...and horrified the community.  No?  I can't THINK of anything POSITIVE the black panther party done to increase the quality of African American living.  The Stokey CarMichaels[?], H. Rap Brown, Hughie Newtons succumbed to drugs or violence themselves-and not by the hands of the oppressor or the establishment but by the hands of their own.  No?   I remember being a tad bit a part of it. However small the role, still I was young but old enough to understand that sumthing just WASN'T right with afro-wearing loud mouth brothers. They were NOT organized, scattered in their thinking and were on a powerful ego trip which conflict within the group.  And maybe it was just where I was located geographically. And other parties throughout the nation did some good work-I can't say.   All I know that the CRIME rate here went UP, not down.  And soon black folks were running from each other and NOT so much from the "pigs."  And the community that once screamed "black power" were toooooooooooooo scared to use that SAME energy to confront their own children about the violence they were implementing on each other.  So pardon me if I feel that the Black Panther Party HURT us MORE than they HELPED us. And my proof?  Two generations of youths gone.  And we can't get them back either.  Unlike the "new" black panthers that can re-invented themselves.  Our youths don't get to do a "do over."  Nope.    But!  I'm just sayin       

71 percent of the Obama Energy Department's grants and loans went to "individuals who were bundlers, members of Obama's National Finance Committee, or large donors to the Democratic Party." Collectively, these Obama cronies raised $457,834 for his campaign, and they were in turn approved for grants or loans of nearly $11.35 billion.


Change alright.



Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran


WASHINGTON — From his first months in office, President Obama secretly ordered increasingly sophisticated attacks on the computer systems that run Iran’s main nuclear enrichment facilities, significantly expanding America’s first sustained use of cyberweapons, according to participants in the program.

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Iran’s nuclear enrichment facility at Natanz.


Mr. Obama decided to accelerate the attacks — begun in the Bush administration and code-named Olympic Games — even after an element of the program accidentally became public in the summer of 2010 because of a programming error that allowed it to escape Iran’s Natanz plant and sent it around the world on the Internet. Computer security experts who began studying the worm, which had been developed by the United States and Israel, gave it a name: Stuxnet.


Obama is following somebody's agenda.



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  Could be it HIS own agenda?  Or no?   He isn't that savvy yet.  How many presidents followed exclusively THEIR own agenda?  Ay?  How many?  Just a question.  Cuz to me, it is strictly me talking, we take so much for granted here in this country even though its muddled a bit.  From where I come from, I haven't seen a hero yet in terms of a President.  Have yall?  Okay.  Then who?  I just wanna know for CLARITY.  Who is this model every President should follow....huh?  And we've have less than fifty...right?  And most of em has had a  "racist" agenda....right?  So I'm confused.  Where or when will we as Black people, African Americans, negroes, coloreds...when will we finally just accepted the fact that all of this stuff we wanna see instanteously is GONNA take a minute...when can WE wait for the process to begin?  Why or why are we so much in a hurry to get absolutely no where....when we as a culture have soooooooooo much WORK to do on our own in our own community? 


What happened to rolling up our sleeves and doing OUR part?  While the commander in chief[the first black] do his?  And even if he doesn't do as much as he can[or what impatient black people suggest he can]....he's in there and doesn't it only take a mustard seed? I mean look at history.....please somebody...anybody  It's there for a reason.  And if that's done realistically and chronologically....many will discover that CHANGE takes a's a journey.  Hell slavery for us wasn't over in 4 years....right?  Civil rights wasn't implemented in 4 years....right?  And clearly it took more than 4 years to elect a Black president....right?  So what is the focking hurry...I wanna know?  Cuz it appears that this impatience with my President is the same impatience that many of our young people have....where in the hell did they get that from?  This instant gratification....that screams I want  it got damn now mindset?  Don't have to look too far from the tree now do we? I for one think this I-want-to-see something-that-makes-sense-to-me-from-President Obama stance is completely unreasonable given our history for change. 


And hey don't take my word for it....look at the other cultures fighting for the same freedoms/rights we acquired in less than 400 years....again here comes this number....that's taken them over 1400 years to realized that they have been doped.  Compared to how long it took us verses how long it's taken them...I think we have a little time to see how all of this unfolds with my matter who's so-called agenda is being followed.  The important thing is...we ARE in the GAME.  We do have a VOICE.  Look to your right...there are MANY fact millions of people who DON'T even have that. Hell what we have now as black people is EXACTLY what they are currently fighting for and ARE willing to die for.  So I say that to say this.  Even though we've come to this point, we still "ain't" NOT finished.  Oh no..we just got started.  And having him in there is the beginning of a brilliant dynasty...if you can see it or not. This unprecedented milestone is evolving into greatness as we speak.  And there's more to come even though to a lot of blackfolks it doesn't seem like it.  It's acoming.  But. I'm just sayin

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