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THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER CLASSIC VERSION:

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold.

MODERN VERSION:

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press con-ference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. ABC, CBS, CNN, and MS-NBC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be that, in a country of such wealth, this poor grass- hopper is allowed to suffer so? Then a representative of the NAGB (National Association of Green Bugs) shows up on Nightline and charges the ant with "green bias", and makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years of greenism. Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grass- hopper, and everybody cries when he sings "It's Not Easy Being Green."

Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS Evening News to tell a concerned Dan Rather that they will do every thing they can for the grasshopper who has been denied the prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the Reagan summers, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures of the 80's." Richard Gephardt exclaims in an interview with Peter Jennings that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair share." Finally, the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-Greenism Act". Retroactive to the beginning of the summer, the ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.

Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill appointed from a list of single-parent welfare moms who can only hear cases on Thursdays between 1:30 and 3pm when there are no talk shows scheduled. The ant loses the case. The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he's in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him since he doesn't know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. And on the TV, which the grasshopper bought by selling most of the ant's food, they are showing Bill Clinton standing before a wildly applauding group of Democrats announcing that a new era of "fairness" has dawned in America.

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Evil can only triumph when good men do nothing.
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Barwick, you said you were leaving. Can't you keep your promise?
This silly little diatribe about Democrat ideas at work, who cares? As far as I'm concerned neither party the Democrats and Republicans or as they are commonly known the Liberals and Conservatives has any goodwill interest ultimately for black americans. The only interest that each group has is to maintain power for their white selves. The Conservatives are comparable to the wolves, they are upfront with their racist agenda. The liberals are comparable to the foxes, they look like they are smiling in your face they're sly and stab you in the back.
So your points about the Democrats ideology is a moot point and the only difference between the two is the methods and not the ultimate goal: To maintain their power.
Nothing in the objective has changed, just the methods. As usual none of this process includes any other-than-whites.
Get a clue dude. Expose yourself to other ideas and people before you make a rush to judgement about certain things. You are still young and have lots of thinking left to do.
Just a suggestion.

Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should never fall out with each other just because we believe in different methods, or tactics, or strategy. We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for separation. We are fighting for recognition as free humans in this society
Malcolm X, 1965
Man, for once a post by Yssys and I don't feel like I've been *completely* insulted. Just a little. I appreciate that.

Why do you continue to pit African Americans against everyone else in this country? Every single ethnic group that has come into the United States has inserted a part of their culture into the American culture, and adopted the American culture. It used to be "them damn wops" or "stupid krauts" when Italians and Germans moved over here in mass. Eventually they became known as part of the culture. People used to say "stupid chinks" or "damn japs", but they've integrated their culture into the American culture, and then adopted the new culture, and now it's pretty rare (except for the random idiot) to hear those words. The same thing has happened with African Americans. American culture today has parts of African American culture, and many African Americans have adopoted the culture, and most Americans when they see a black man or woman walking down the street, they're just another person. But we keep pitting people against eachother, and it's forever going to be "those white people are just trying to keep their power from the black people". You know that's not true. You know that ANY black person in this country can go out and succeed just as well as any white person can. And if you honestly believe that if a person REALLY wants to succeed in ANY way in this country, and they can't because they're black, then I feel sorry for you, because I've watched countless black friends of mine go from the "repressed, underpriveleged" status to become a successful person.

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Evil can only triumph when good men do nothing.
My post has nothing to do with culture, it has everything to do with politics. Do you not understand the response? And in addition to my statement about whites wanting to keep power to themselves, I'll say that rich whites want to keep the power to themselves.
Just look at who's in office right now and look how they are enriching themselves by giving government contracts for telecommunications to Worldcom MCI and Haliburton. You don't have to be white or black to see through that!


Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should never fall out with each other just because we believe in different methods, or tactics, or strategy. We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for separation. We are fighting for recognition as free humans in this society
Malcolm X, 1965
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Why do you continue to pit African Americans against everyone else in this country? Every single ethnic group that has come into the United States has inserted a part of their culture into the American culture, and adopted the American culture.
Could it be that African-Americans AFRICAN CULTURE[s] were summarily obliterated by slavery?? Have you noticed African-Americans with distinct African names of some type??

No we wear the names of White Europeans (traditionally in this society).

Do you know of any African-Americans who speak a African language to some degree that was passed down to them from their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents??

NO! Those are distinctive unique CULTURAL components that have been tangibly lost, taken, DESTROYED.

You talk about Italians, Japanese, etc. Name an AFRICAN food that has been "integrated" into the American diet on the order of spaghetti or fried rice that African-Americans have transmitted or passed down since they have been here!

You can't... you have just highlighted the Greatest DEBT of all. THANK YOU!
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You know that ANY black person in this country can go out and succeed just as well as any white person can. And if you honestly believe that if a person REALLY wants to succeed in ANY way in this country, and they can't because they're black, then I feel sorry for you, because I've watched countless black friends of mine go from the "repressed, underpriveleged" status to become a successful person.
I guess by you saying that... you believe that we're saying something different.

You got the wrong board DUDE!

As KEVIN has lined out to you about himself personally... WE ARE ALL SUCCESSFUL (the members on this board...) So your illogical premise that only unsuccessful people are the ones who complain doesn't hold. You are mixing issues if not mixing us in with the wrong misconception that YOU have.

You resort to the predictable MOVE ON (because you reasoning can't hold up against ours) should be proof that we are well beyond you in terms of integrity and mental success.
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
It is funny how people like to paint a picture of you the way THEY want to see you in order to strengthen THEIR beliefs in THEIR assumptions regarding you...what a lame approach...yeah...move on my azz........


Of course not.. it's not like there will ALWAYS be someone demanding that reparations weren't enough, even if trillions of dollars are paid out, because you know what, it ISN'T enough. You can't put a monetary amount on it. If one-hundred-trillion dollars are paid out to descendants of former slaves, and they stop paying, there will be more people STILL saying that reparations need to be made. Like Jesse Jackson and NASCAR, show you're willing to give a little, and Jesse wants to take a whole lot more.

Are descendants of American revolutionaries demanding reparations from England?

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Evil can only triumph when good men do nothing.
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Originally posted by Barwick:
Are descendants of American revolutionaries demanding reparations from England?

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Evil can only triumph when good men do nothing.


Of course not, BECAUSE England LOST the Revolutionary War.

And the revisionist Ant/Grasshopper fable would make sense only if one added that the ants were just too lazy to work and made the grasshoppers do their work for free without compensation or a thank you.

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