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They'll learn when America turns into Israel and Africans in America become the Palestinians and their neighborhoods transform into Gaza.  Negroes: medium, rare, well done, totally incinerated.  Never forget Move, Mayor Wilson Good, Philadelphia.  We're gonna keep on messing around until we become:  Negroes roasting on an open fire; Jack Frost finding NOTHING to nip!!!!!!

   Sho your right!  I agree.  And my sista...I know you know that bbqs were invented during the lynchings of black men and women[mainly in the midwest].  And that white racist journalists took pictures of those hangings and put the photos on postcards sending them off to other portions of the country. This was a trend.  So.  If black folks really KNEW the history of bbqs?  They would NEVER grill a thang on open fire.  And who are the people who bbq the most in this country?  That would be us...black people.  Now go figure why.  But!

Brotha Goodman wrote:  Obama is probably the worst freaking President ever post 60s for Black people, all we got was unemployment, poverty and death. He's about next to Reagan. If Obama was European, we would've been told him how terrible he is in the mainstream media at doing anything for Black people.

 

  Now that's a BIG bold face LIE!!!!!  Now here we go looking to blame somebody for what WE WON'T DO FOR OURSELVES.  Black people have had enough time to get it together and keep unity going but they CHOSE not to.  So you gonna BLAME my president?  For something he doesn't have power to do.  You can't make a horse drink....heard of that?  Our achievements are from our ancestors.  We walked on their heads to get to the white house.  So why do you continuously BLAME my president?  Is it because HE'S BLACK?  And you looking for him to do something out of his control?  Black people have to HELP black people.  But black people do not LIKE each other anymore.  Didn't you get the memo?  You see the dislike in the streets, on the television/on cable...you see it when you walk by a black person with a blank face-as if he/she doesn't see you to greet you and vise versa.  

 

No.  Obama isn't terrible.  The period in which we as black people live in is TERRIBLE.  Cuz we have the MEANS and power[politically and financially] to get things done but we don't cuz we are SELFISH!!!!!!!   Or have become SELFISH!!!!!  Many blacks who have the ability DO NOT REACH BACK AND HELP THEIR OWN PEOPLE....unless it's televised.  So again...black people continue to do nothing absolutely but whine whine whine.  This is getting REAL old.  But!

 

P.S.  Check this out!  If an African President CANNOT [or will not] come to the AID of missing African children[who are citizens]....and he's black in a black country...what in the HELL do you expect a black president to do in a traditionally white-based position of leadership?  I'ma listenin'.........thought so!    But!

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Pretend you had a beautiful white pedigree dog.  You're waiting for a handsome white pedigree mate for her.  You accidentally turned your back and little black dog Jo-Jo, from across the railroad tracks plugged the orifice.  Damn if the puppies didn't make their approval ratings drop to 40%.  No one liked those little half black puppies and nobody wanted them!!!!!!  They were handsome little suckers, but they couldn't be sold!!!!!!

Originally Posted by sunnubian:

These are the demographics of Ferguson, MO:

 

White alone, percent, 2010 (a)29.3%82.8%Black or African American alone, percent definition and source info

Black or African American alone, percent, 2010 (a)67.4%11.6%American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent definition and source info

American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent, 2010 (a)0.4%0.5%Asian alone, percent definition and source info

Asian alone, percent, 2010 (a)0.5%1.6%Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent definition and source info

Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent, 2010 (a)Z0.1%Two or More Races, percent definition and source infoTwo or More Races, percent, 20102.0%2.1%Hispanic or Latino, percent definition and source info

Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2010 (b)1.2%3.5%White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent definition and source info

 

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The Black voters in that city have within their power to Vote in or Vote out Chief of Police and/or City Counsel members, at least in that city.

 

The racial climate in a city comes from the top down, and so does the racial climate of any city's police force.  If the police in that city are out harassing, brutalizing and murdering Black people [with impunity], it's because it has been sanctioned from the top.

 

Protest is good, Rioting is senseless, but Voting will get the best results.

 

The Black people in that city should be protesting in order to bring attention to police brutality and to mobilize the people in that city into a Voting Block that will change who is in charge of that city, therefore the racial climate in the city overall, which includes the attitudes, fairness and restraint of the police.  

 

Though the entire state of Missouri is only 11.7% Black, it's still enough to make or break and election.  So, ALL the Black people in the State of Missouri should be mobilizing into a Voting Block that will do just that to change the political climate in the State of Missouri overall.

 

Things should at least start from there, before any Black people going out on some vigilante justice retaliation killing spree.

 

 

Bingo sista, you talking about political POWER! And I agree with you on the rioting because that only gives the police a license to increase these senseless killings and fortifies the stereotype of blacks in the minds of everybody else. 

 

I was listening to the TV yesterday and I think it was ESPN and they was talking about one of these killings and a white commentator said something like, if they go out and riot you will lose white people who could sympathize with you but until these young blacks stop robbing, stealing and killing each other, you will be on your own, I could not see the TV and I am not sure it was ESPN but I was like wow, how bold and utterly arrogant that white mofo is but what he is saying is the mindset of average white people. The black guy on the show said something like this, if these kinds of killings continue there will be riots and that he was sick and tired asking white people for justice, perhaps if we riot in the right places then that would get your attention. The white guy said, you see you will indeed lose everyone who might side with you if that happened. 

 

Did anyone happen to see that?

 

We got to figure out how to wield POWER, politically and economically.

But what I am so disappointed about are the black organizations and black churches with no ongoing and potent economic agenda, the NAACP chase issues instead of shaping our communities into powerful political and economic blocks and Churches all they do is pray after tragedies happen and hope somehow God will pull us out of this demoralizing climate. 

 

Why do these organizations exist, the heads of NAACP, Urban League and preachers do is go to the media and complain, then that's it. Where is the consistent political and economic agenda's? Why are we constantly asking white folks to help us when it is within our resources to make it happen for ourselves? 

 

I've watched NAACP conventions and they don't talk about putting these issues upfront, I hear no urgency all I see them doing is slapping each other on the back because of their personal accomplishments, I don't hear emphasis on community empowerment, I hear LOOK AT ME! I hear look at the crumbs I got white people to give us, I'm so sick of this, its like they are being used to make sure we don't focus on real political and economic power. 

 

Where are the churches, heck they are only a few blocks from each other, they can't organize and have on going local economic agenda's that empower their communities?

 

It seems to me, it can't be that hard. 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

Brotha Goodman wrote:  Obama is probably the worst freaking President ever post 60s for Black people, all we got was unemployment, poverty and death. He's about next to Reagan. If Obama was European, we would've been told him how terrible he is in the mainstream media at doing anything for Black people.

 

  Now that's a BIG bold face LIE!!!!!  Now here we go looking to blame somebody for what WE WON'T DO FOR OURSELVES.  Black people have had enough time to get it together and keep unity going but they CHOSE not to.  So you gonna BLAME my president?  For something he doesn't have power to do.  You can't make a horse drink....heard of that?  Our achievements are from our ancestors.  We walked on their heads to get to the white house.  So why do you continuously BLAME my president?  Is it because HE'S BLACK?  And you looking for him to do something out of his control?  Black people have to HELP black people.  But black people do not LIKE each other anymore.  Didn't you get the memo?  You see the dislike in the streets, on the television/on cable...you see it when you walk by a black person with a blank face-as if he/she doesn't see you to greet you and vise versa.  

 

No.  Obama isn't terrible.  The period in which we as black people live in is TERRIBLE.  Cuz we have the MEANS and power[politically and financially] to get things done but we don't cuz we are SELFISH!!!!!!!   Or have become SELFISH!!!!!  Many blacks who have the ability DO NOT REACH BACK AND HELP THEIR OWN PEOPLE....unless it's televised.  So again...black people continue to do nothing absolutely but whine whine whine.  This is getting REAL old.  But!

 

P.S.  Check this out!  If an African President CANNOT [or will not] come to the AID of missing African children[who are citizens]....and he's black in a black country...what in the HELL do you expect a black president to do in a traditionally white-based position of leadership?  I'ma listenin'.........thought so!    But!

Obama is an elected official which means he is a public servant and he's Black, was a Senator in a Black city, and... was greatly supported by Black people, like no other President.

 

And yes, because you are Black, you are expected and required to do things for Black people or we can tell you to go screw yourself and when ish goes down, which it always will, aka Kobe Bryant,  OJ Simpson and Tiger Woods, we shall be nowhere to be found and let White people chew you up and spit you out. 

 

See, here's my point. When Black people say we need to do for ourselves, taking part in the political process and deciding who is going to rule over you, is doing for yourself. I am doing the lawful thing. Because what I wanna do to solve the problem, it wouldn't be the "proper" thing to do. I am doing the civil thing.

 

The same way when Black people be telling brothers to get a job and stop dealing drugs...when I am applying and I don't get any jobs, so now you telling me to stfu and stop complaining, so I go on the streets and get this hook up and now I am a "menace". You not gonna give me a job, you not paying my bills, so why the hell not go out here and "do for myself." 

 

I took part in the political process, and expected results. Just basic results, I don't expect a jihad on White people, White people ultimately run him.  You really think I expect revolutionary from Black people that live off of White people? Black people that live off of White people are one step away from selling out 24/7. Black people that live off of White people can only be expected to disappoint if you require great Black things out of them. 

 

I expect assistance and pushing the agenda in the right direction. Instead I got..."I am not the president of Black America."

 

Which basically meant he's one of them annoying ass post racial liberal Black people that live in LaLa Land where the KKK instead of lynching brothas and sisters, they knock on your door and give out candy. 

 

Obama isn't even damn Booker T. Washington and he's one of the biggest near sellouts in African American history, he at least opened up schools for us to go. Obama can't even help us get the damn police off our asses. He is not even involved. His wife runs around trying to get rid of fat kids. Really?  So yall become the first Black family in the White House, from Chicago, and this is what we get, Mr. and Mrs. Change and Yes We Can.

 

And freaking African presidents are weak as hell too. I don't like them either. They all kiss up to White people besides like 5 of them. I want at least a damn Hugo Chavez. Can't even get that. 

 

I don't like people that are allowed into power by the people and don't deliver. 

 

Like I said, there's need to be a purge. No more weak elected officials and weak organizations, if you ain't doing what needs to be done, then we should disown you and ridicule you until you disappear from the political  landscape and we replace you what somebody else and if he or she doesn't do her job, we'll get rid of him or her too. 

 

Brotha Goodman wrote:  Obama is an elected official which means he is a public servant and he's Black, was a Senator in a Black city, and... was greatly supported by Black people, like no other President.

 

And your point?

And yes, because you are Black, you are expected and required to do things for Black people or we can tell you to go screw yourself and when ish goes down, which it always will, aka Kobe Bryant, OJ Simpson and Tiger Woods, we shall be nowhere to be found and let White people chew you up and spit you out.

 

Oh yeah? Then how come we had to WAIT for a Black president to do something for us when we have always done it for OURSELVES...including making sure WE voted a BLACK president into office? He didn't get there by himself.  And I think that it is REALLY unreasonable to expect a president of our culture to resolve a 400 year issue in 8 years. You?


See, here's my point. When Black people say we need to do for ourselves, taking part in the political process and deciding who is going to rule over you, is doing for yourself.

 

True but there is HISTORY behind doing it ourselves. Which means it doesn't or EVER is a overnight resolution. It takes time and social strategy.  If you look at our pattern in this country....it took us a WHOLE 400 years to get out of slavery entirely-meaning that after our freedom we were still considered subhuman so it took another 100 yeas to obtain our human rights as citizens of this country. You think my president can resolve all of our black issues in eight years just cuz we put 'em in office with traditionally bias racist politicans?   Hell they have been trying to impeach him since he came in the white house.  So it's not that he's on top of the hill with all this power....if you think that you're really delusional.


The same way when Black people be telling brothers to get a job and stop dealing drugs...when I am applying and I don't get any jobs, so now you telling me to stfu and stop complaining, so I go on the streets and get this hook up and now I am a "menace". You not gonna give me a job, you not paying my bills, so why the hell not go out here and "do for myself."

 

First in my neck of the woods....there were some brothers who were always hustling trying to beat the man! And from where I sit, I saw a lotta black WOMEN taking care of these men who were too busy trying to impress other brothers with their so-called swag. No?  See Black men always had game but some of 'em  used it the wrong way-AGAINST THE WOMEN IN THEIR COMMUNITY. Where....lemme finish.....many of these SAME women were out there EVERY. DAY. with the remaining brothers fighting for our freedom and civil rights in this country.

 

Even in my day growing up, there were a lot of black men trying to take care of their families and be true leaders in their community....but! Many of 'em were undermined by brothers who thought everybody was a "chump." Brothers who cared less about the integrity of the community but just wanted to get money to keep up with the joneses. Brothers who fell to the waist side by the time the civil rights movement was over. Fast forward 15 years, because of them? Or their children or grandchildren....THEY allowed or provided a way to let gangs and drugs overtake where they laid their heads. In otherwords, they squatted where their slept.  Even dogs don't do that.   Just keeping it real.

I took part in the political process, and expected results. Just basic results, I don't expect a jihad on White people, White people ultimately run him. You really think I expect revolutionary from Black people that live off of White people? Black people that live off of White people are one step away from selling out 24/7. Black people that live off of White people can only be expected to disappoint if you require great Black things out of them.

 

First of all...I'm STILL waiting for my 4 acres and a mule. You? We NEVER got it. If we had? That would have provided a path to our success...but! We obtained it without it. The Japanese got reparations....the Jews got their society heighten even though they were GANGSTERS...and so on. But us? We got FOCKING nothing. So this little spit in the cup that the government ...not white people...but WHAT the government is issuing out is a far cry from getting what we deserve based on the fact that we built by own bare hands one of the most powerful and envied nation in the world. And so to repay that. The government gonna pacify black descendants with a couple of dollars and food stamps? Get the fock outta here. That little carrot of nothing is what is REALLY igniting the fire that is causing blacks to uproar today-not the violence of their young. That's just a front.


I expect assistance and pushing the agenda in the right direction. Instead I got..."I am not the president of Black America."

 

Our expectation of the first black president in American history is UNREASONABLE. He is NOT a magician and cannot make racism go away and cannot make white people like or accept us.   It's like being the oldest in the family...everything is on that one person...a lotta pressure. Then when another child is born the pressure gets easier  for the new kid and the next child ....even more easier and so on.  So to me?  Those expectations of the first black president from black people is TOTALLY unrealistic.    We need to aim for a second black president, a third, a forth....then the resolution to our expectation should get easier.  It is one of the laws of nature.

Which basically meant he's one of them  annoying ass post racial liberal Black people


He's not one of them. Not by a long shot. See? Black people are losing the ability to see between the lines. To see vision at work. They are now these instant-I-want-it-now kinda folks and because of this we are steadfastly losing what our ancestors died to ensure us: HUMAN FREEDOM and the ability to go about our life in this country without HARM. So much for that.... eh?   It is us who should be ASHAMED...cuz we DROPPED the ball.  Not my president.  You can't blame him for 30 years of us doing nothing to STOP the destruction of black folks-that's on us.    

Obama isn't even damn Booker T. Washington and he's one of the biggest near sellouts in African American history, he at least opened up schools for us to go.

 

A school? That's all you're looking for?  Wow!  Just so you know Washington is not a good example.  Cuz back then?  His hands were really tied as was Dubois.  They were merely one of many voices or mouth pieces at that time.  

 

Obama can't even help us get the damn police off our asses. He is not even involved. His wife runs around trying to get rid of fat kids. Really? So yall become the first Black family in the White House, from Chicago, and this is what we get, Mr. and Mrs. Change and Yes We Can.

 

Don't knock it.  Whatcha doing to mitigate this?  Sometimes it is the smallest element of change that gets in and bust the entire stalemate.  


And freaking African presidents are weak as hell too. I don't like them either. They all kiss up to White people besides like 5 of them. I want at least a damn Hugo Chavez. Can't even get that. 

I don't like people that are allowed into power by the people and don't deliver

 

You sound like the generation in the 80s and 90s who grew up to feel entitled instead of reaching for the torch to do your part for Black people. And there where the problem lies.... This new culture of Blackfolks who don't feel they need to WORK for anything to keep the consistency of our journey going. They just want it when they want it.   As why I call them "whiners." They don't want to get their hands dirty.   Bottom line:   They just wanna get paid.  

Like I said, there's need to be a purge. No more weak elected officials and weak organizations, if you ain't doing what needs to be done, then we should disown you and ridicule you until you disappear from the political landscape and we replace you what somebody else and if he or she doesn't do her job, we'll get rid of him or her too.

 

Didn't you hear?  The "Televised Revolution" has been cancelled due to the onset of hip hop culture of blackfolks. These youngins now full grown take EVERYTHING for granted and expect to have this sort of freedom forever-without maintaining its long term integrity. But hey...now massa says to us...."wait! Not so fast. You blackfolks have PROVEN you don't give a shit about each other...fighting over the crumbs we give you to go buy things you don't NEED....and then get mad that one of you is moving faster and higher than the other...so whatcha do? You KILL right in front of each other and not  say a word. Been doing that for 3 decades...two decades after the civil rights movement."  

 

I calculate that as 2 1/2 generations of black folks. Now since the po po is taking over what the gangs and drugs were doing back then? Now...you wanna bitch and moan?  And still NOT doing anything cuz you think the LOUD noise is movement?  Is going to change something.  Ha!  Newsflash!!  It is not!   It is just posturing. Puffing.  The courage we used to have has been PLUCKED from our souls until we have come to the point where some of us don't even LIKE ourselves anymore. Cuz if we did young brotha?  The black folks who are wealthy and powerful would have RAISED us up even higher in terms of our status and position in this country a long time ago. They would have been proactive....corralled us to the white house door and into congressional meetings and demanded what we were PROMISED let alone need. But did they?  Plus they've had this ability [to bus thousands of black folks to Washington] for a few years now. So have they? The answer is NO NO NO NO NO NO!   They haven't done a damn thang but spent money on $20 thousand bottles of champayne and half their salaries on 15 cents hookers.  So much for black progress.  But!

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Originally Posted by GoodMan:

Like I said before...

 

Obama Era is the New Regean Era and African Americans have never been more under assault since the 60s than under Reagan. 

 

This crap is ridiculous, got sky high unemployment rate, got cops and vigilantes killing us, Detroit don't even got damn water, Chicago is a warzone. White people making their own and districts and schools in Black cities because they see the writing on the wall. 

 

Obama is probably the worst freaking President ever post 60s for Black people, all we got was unemployment, poverty and death. He's about next to Reagan. If Obama was European, we would've been told him how terrible he is in the mainstream media at doing anything for Black people. *snip*

 

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Everybody has an opinion and I happen to agree with yours-maybe Obama would do more (for black folk) if we were all illegal aliens. 

 

That's my take.

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Originally Posted by GoodMan:
 

 

 

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

Brotha Goodman wrote:  Obama is probably the worst freaking President ever post 60s for Black people, all we got was unemployment, poverty and death. He's about next to Reagan. If Obama was European, we would've been told him how terrible he is in the mainstream media at doing anything for Black people.

 

  Now that's a BIG bold face LIE!!!!!  Now here we go looking to blame somebody for what WE WON'T DO FOR OURSELVES.  Black people have had enough time to get it together and keep unity going but they CHOSE not to.  So you gonna BLAME my president?  For something he doesn't have power to do.  You can't make a horse drink....heard of that?  Our achievements are from our ancestors.  We walked on their heads to get to the white house.  So why do you continuously BLAME my president?  Is it because HE'S BLACK?  And you looking for him to do something out of his control?  Black people have to HELP black people.  But black people do not LIKE each other anymore.  Didn't you get the memo?  You see the dislike in the streets, on the television/on cable...you see it when you walk by a black person with a blank face-as if he/she doesn't see you to greet you and vise versa.  

 

No.  Obama isn't terrible.  The period in which we as black people live in is TERRIBLE.  Cuz we have the MEANS and power[politically and financially] to get things done but we don't cuz we are SELFISH!!!!!!!   Or have become SELFISH!!!!!  Many blacks who have the ability DO NOT REACH BACK AND HELP THEIR OWN PEOPLE....unless it's televised.  So again...black people continue to do nothing absolutely but whine whine whine.  This is getting REAL old.  But!

 

P.S.  Check this out!  If an African President CANNOT [or will not] come to the AID of missing African children[who are citizens]....and he's black in a black country...what in the HELL do you expect a black president to do in a traditionally white-based position of leadership?  I'ma listenin'.........thought so!    But!

Obama is an elected official which means he is a public servant and he's Black, was a Senator in a Black city, and... was greatly supported by Black people, like no other President.

 

And yes, because you are Black, you are expected and required to do things for Black people or we can tell you to go screw yourself and when ish goes down, which it always will, aka Kobe Bryant,  OJ Simpson and Tiger Woods, we shall be nowhere to be found and let White people chew you up and spit you out. 

 

See, here's my point. When Black people say we need to do for ourselves, taking part in the political process and deciding who is going to rule over you, is doing for yourself. I am doing the lawful thing. Because what I wanna do to solve the problem, it wouldn't be the "proper" thing to do. I am doing the civil thing.

 

The same way when Black people be telling brothers to get a job and stop dealing drugs...when I am applying and I don't get any jobs, so now you telling me to stfu and stop complaining, so I go on the streets and get this hook up and now I am a "menace". You not gonna give me a job, you not paying my bills, so why the hell not go out here and "do for myself." 

 

I took part in the political process, and expected results. Just basic results, I don't expect a jihad on White people, White people ultimately run him.  You really think I expect revolutionary from Black people that live off of White people? Black people that live off of White people are one step away from selling out 24/7. Black people that live off of White people can only be expected to disappoint if you require great Black things out of them. 

 

I expect assistance and pushing the agenda in the right direction. Instead I got..."I am not the president of Black America."

 

Which basically meant he's one of them annoying ass post racial liberal Black people that live in LaLa Land where the KKK instead of lynching brothas and sisters, they knock on your door and give out candy. 

 

Obama isn't even damn Booker T. Washington and he's one of the biggest near sellouts in African American history, he at least opened up schools for us to go. Obama can't even help us get the damn police off our asses. He is not even involved. His wife runs around trying to get rid of fat kids. Really?  So yall become the first Black family in the White House, from Chicago, and this is what we get, Mr. and Mrs. Change and Yes We Can.

 

And freaking African presidents are weak as hell too. I don't like them either. They all kiss up to White people besides like 5 of them. I want at least a damn Hugo Chavez. Can't even get that. 

 

I don't like people that are allowed into power by the people and don't deliver. 

 

Like I said, there's need to be a purge. No more weak elected officials and weak organizations, if you ain't doing what needs to be done, then we should disown you and ridicule you until you disappear from the political  landscape and we replace you what somebody else and if he or she doesn't do her job, we'll get rid of him or her too. 

 

In response to Goodman

 

I absolutely agree with you here and the highlighted area (above) is what I call accountability.  IMO, Obama should be accountable for his total neglect & disregard of black issues & black people.  

 

I never totally embraced Obama (as president) because I disagree with his stance on immigration and a few other issues but I voted for him because I felt he was the less of two evils. 

 

Not everyone is enamored of Obama, I don't care that he is black, I care what he does to stop, slow down, & 'bring attention to' [as regards] the senseless killing of black americans, as well as, other ongoing & long-running black issues.  

 

Talk is cheap, if folk had the 'so-called' answer to the plight of black Americans… why the hell aren't they implementing their solutions then?  When people know better, they do better (right? ).

 

Anybody can finger point when it comes to other people's opinion, but what the hell are YOU (general you) doing with all the so-called answers you (general you) have?  THAT (dear readers) is the 100 dollar question.

 

Personally, I know I don't have all the answers (re: issues that continue to plague the black community), and sadly, neither do the people who claim or believe they do. 

 

I think it's worse to 'know' what to do (as far as correction & change) but do nothing…

but

talk.

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In the aftermath of yet another series of slaughters, we have been asked to accept the unacceptable expectations of a society that has never loved us. Are we to sit quietly and see our own sisters' and brothers' bodies rotting in the streets? Should we be expected to continue to struggle to identify our family members by their socks or jewelry because there are too many bullet holes in their faces?
 
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Beyond our current frustration and anger, our memory hums as our ancestors call out to us. We will redeem their suffering through collective work for liberation. Stoicism, respectability politics and piecemeal measures of progress are not working. Our tearful pleas and desperate cries have gone unheard.
 
Since 1619, this white supremacist and patriarchal society has devalued and demonized Black bodies in order to justify the forests of hatred and greed they have planted over every square inch of this land. While police officers, judges, and juries continue to nurture these vile gardens, we choose to create a new path. Patience and properness have their place, and their place is in the past. We reject sanitized portrayals of Black liberators which are used to manipulate us into apathy and inaction.
 
We recognize that American media, law enforcement and 'criminal injustice' systems do not recognize Black people as humans worthy of respect and dignity. Investigations continue to arrive at the same conclusions -- the victim is guilty. With this statement and our actions, we rebuke their opinions, analysis, and their critiques of our chosen methods and strategies to achieve our liberation. With this statement we affirm the value of all Black lives, especially our brothers and sisters in Ferguson, MO who are being referred to as 'animals' 'thugs' and 'niggers' by those sworn to protect them.
 
We are resolute in our desire to build a new world for all of us. We are organizing and taking direct action on the ground. We are committed to working with organizations who share our values, and will continue to organize. Now, we need to hear from you. Our stories are powerful tools that when used effectively can bring about the conditions for our liberation. We ask Black people between the ages of 13 and 35 to submit 1-3 minute videos describing how you have been profiled, abused or violated by the police. Click to learn more and submit your video.
 
We ask you to crowd every street corner, bus stop and block with your stories. We ask you to love and protect each other. We ask you to raise your voices so that even Eric, Mike, John, Ezell and Renisha may hear. 
 
#BlackLivesMatter,
 
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Racism is NOT only in the police "forces", White men don't like the Black man, PERIOD.  The reason the President is having so many problems is because Black men are NOT supposed to have POWER.  He's president; white men are PISSED!! That's why Congress is not doing anything.  When Black people had Black Wall Street, White folks blew the shit UP!! They keep us in "slave" mode so they can utilize their fake "white privilege".  Ain't no body better than any one else.  We're all placed on this earth by our parents to live our lives to the best of our ability until we damn DIE!!!!!!  Life fornicates, Life is brought forth, Life dies. That's applicable to every damn thing breathing/living on the planet.  All the rest is just BULLSHIT!!!!! 

Sista Norland wrote:  Racism is NOT only in the police "forces", White men don't like the Black man, PERIOD.  The reason the President is having so many problems is because Black men are NOT supposed to have POWER.  He's president; white men are PISSED!! That's why Congress is not doing anything.  When Black people had Black Wall Street, White folks blew the shit UP!! They keep us in "slave" mode so they can utilize their fake "white privilege".  Ain't no body better than any one else.  We're all placed on this earth by our parents to live our lives to the best of our ability until we damn DIE!!!!!!  Life fornicates, Life is brought forth, Life dies. That's applicable to every damn thing breathing/living on the planet.  All the rest is just BULLSHIT!!!!! 

 

  Exactly my sista!  Straight out BULLSHYTE!!!!!  But!

Ferguson Police Fired Tear Gas On Protesters In Their Own Backyard

Posted: 08/12/2014 1:23 pm EDT Updated: 08/13/2014 12:59 am EDT
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FERGUSON MISSOURI

On Saturday, Aug. 9, Michael Brown, 18, was shot by a police officer in Ferguson, a suburb of St. Louis. What happened before the shooting remains unclear, with police saying that Brown assaulted the officer and eyewitnesses denying that account, arguing that Brown was killed while attempting to surrender.

 

In the days since, Ferguson has been shaken up by protests from the city's African-American residents. People raising their hands in the air and saying, "Hands up, don't shoot," have become a symbol of the demonstrations.

 

On Monday night, police in riot gear went down West Florissant Avenue in Ferguson, attempting to clear the street, according to the St. Louis-based Riverfront Times.

 

Richie West, 24, and a handful of friends and family members were watching from his backyard. They decided to protest -- still on his property -- shouting with their hands in the air, "You go home! You go home!"

 

Police told them to disperse and then fired tear gas at them. West continued to shout, "This is my backyard! This is my shit!" And police fired again.

 

"It's pure ignorance," West told the Riverfront Times. "I pay property taxes here. I should be able to be in my backyard any time."

 

Watch video of the incident captured by the Riverfront Times:

The Ferguson Police Department did not return The Huffington Post's request for comment.

Community anger appears to have been simmering for quite some time in Ferguson, which has mostly African-American residents but very few African-American public officials. According to the Los Angeles Times, "Ferguson's police chief and mayor are white. Of the six City Council members, one is black. The local school board has six white members and one Latino. Of the 53 commissioned officers on the police force, three are black, said Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson."

Blacks are also disproportionately pulled over by police in Ferguson. Whites make up about one-third of the city's population but accounted for just 12.7 percent of traffic stops by Ferguson police last year. African-Americans made up 93 percent of the arrests following those stops, yet whites were more likely to be caught with contraband.

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hottest story in America..just got warmer!!!

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...cbklnkushpmg00000047

 

ACLU Files Sunshine Law Requests To ID Officer Who Shot Michael Brown

Posted: 08/13/2014 3:29 pm EDT Updated: 29 minutes ago
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MICHAEL BROWN
 

WASHINGTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri filed formal requests on Tuesday to obtain a copy of the police incident report naming the officer who shot Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager killed Saturday while walking down the street in a St. Louis suburb.

The ACLU submitted its requests to the Ferguson Police Department and the St. Louis County Police Department. Both were filed under the state's Sunshine Law, which stipulates that records of public governmental bodies be made open to the public.

Diane Balogh, communications director for the ACLU of Missouri, said the group filed the requests specifically to find out the identity of the police officer. The Ferguson Police Department originally planned to release the officer's name on Tuesday, but then decided not to, citing threats against the officer. In the meantime, the Justice Department is overseeing an investigation into the shooting and Ferguson has become a scene of daily protests and vandalism, with police even using tear gas on people standing in their own backyards.

"If they don't follow through, we will file a lawsuit and hold a press conference," Balogh told The Huffington Post. "There have been other situations where we've actually had to sue the police department because they haven't fulfilled the Sunshine Law requirements."

She added, "The police like their secrets."

Missouri's Sunshine Law specifies that requests for information be acted on as soon as possible, but "no later than the end of the third business day following the date the request is received."

Requests for comment from the Ferguson Police Department and the St. Louis County Police Department were not immediately returned.

The ACLU isn't the only group intent on identifying Brown's shooter. The group of activist hackers known as Anonymous has vowed to out the officer's name through its own efforts, which so far have included hacking into city computers and temporarily shutting them down.

 

 

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said in a press conference on Wednesday that the officer who shot Michael Brown will not meet with the teen's family. It "would not be appropriate," he said.

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that he was "uncomfortable" with how long Michael Brown's body was left on the crime scene. He said it took some time to secure the crime scene and the body was covered immediately.

I hope that the rest of America knows that they are also using Black people to socially condition Americans for the coming Police State that is going to be imposed on the ALL Americans once politicians finish selling our government to corporations under "privatization".

 

And all of the tactics they are using to block Justice [and access to information to obtain justice] for Black people in America now, will be what they will use to block justice [and access to information to obtain justice] for ALL Americans in the future.  

 

America is being tested, by those who wish to impose totalitarian and plutocratic rule in this country; and so far, America is failing miserably.   

 

 

 

 

This topic is so heated and so personal to me and to so many of us on this board and to all of African America, for obvious reasons.  

 

But, I feel I need to take this time to clarify that in my criticism of the pervasive, systemic racism saturated throughout America's police forces, in no way means that I believe that ALL police are racists or thatALL police are out there harassing, brutalizing, torturing and murdering Black people/Black men/Black children, because I know that is not the case.

 

Just let it be understood that my criticism is directed only at those who are racist, and who do seek out jobs on America's police forces for the precise purpose of being able to harass, racially profile, brutalize, torture and murder Black people with the impunity of being able to hide behind a badge or color of authority to do so.  

 

It is so abundantly clear, and has been for a very long time in this country, that there are far too many racist cops out there that do nothing but f--k with and brutalize Black people, particularly Black males, and especially young Black males, and even Black children, any chance they get, that in my/our expression of outrage against such acts, it may appear that we are painting ALL cops with the same broad brush, but I know those are not our intentions.

 

With that said, I must also say that it is also way beyond time that police officers themselves stand up and speak out against the racism and against the systemic abuse of authority being used against Black people, or any people for any reason in this country.

 

 

However, if America's police that are not hiding behind a badge to be able inflict racist, sadistic, murderous acts, with impunity, against American citizens [African Americans are American citizens] don't stand up against this climate of systemic racism and brutality, then, the American people can suffice it to say, that it is their intent to indulge attempts at totalitarianism, a police state and plutocracy in America.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by RadioRaheem:

Breaking news from ferguson.....

 

state senator activist taken into custody.... Her info here. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Chappelle-Nadal

 

they are arresting journalist and are making the media leave

Maria Chappelle-Nadal

Maria Chappelle-Nadal
Maria Chappelle-Nadal 2013.jpg
Chappelle-Nadal in 2013
Missouri State Senator from District 14 (University City)
Incumbent
Assumed office
2011
Preceded byRita Heard Days
Member of the Missouri House of Representatives
from the 72nd district
In office
2005–2011
Personal details
BornUniversity CityMissouriUSA
Political partyDemocratic
ResidenceUniversity City, Missouri
Alma materGeorgia State University

 

 

Maria N. Chappelle-Nadal is a Democrat from University City,Missouri, who represents District 14 in the Missouri State Senate. She is also a former member of the Missouri House of Representatives from District 72, a position which she held from 2005 to 2011. In 2010, Chappelle-Nadal was elected to the Senate to succeed fellow Democrat Rita Heard Days of St. Louis. She is a graduate of Georgia State University in AtlantaGeorgia.

 

Democratic party activist

Chappelle-Nadal was one of Missouri's superdelegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention in DenverColorado. Uncommitted at first, she declared her support for Democratic candidate Barack Obama on the same day that the commonwealth of Puerto Rico held its Democratic presidential primary. Chappelle-Nadal's mother is Puerto Rican.

 

 

 

Originally Posted by RadioRaheem:

Reporters were from Washington post and huffington post...they were eating at a McDonalds eating a meal and emailing updates to headquarters

 

As I said earlier:

 

 

"I hope that the rest of America knows that they are also using Black people to socially condition Americans for the coming Police State that is going to be imposed on the ALL Americans once politicians finish selling our government to corporations under "privatization".

 

And all of the tactics they are using to block Justice [and access to information to obtain justice] for Black people in America now, will be what they will use to block justice [and access to information to obtain justice] for ALL Americans in the future.  

 

America is being tested, by those who wish to impose totalitarian and plutocratic rule in this country; and so far, America is failing miserably."  

Originally Posted by sunnubian:
Originally Posted by RadioRaheem:

Reporters were from Washington post and huffington post...they were eating at a McDonalds eating a meal and emailing updates to headquarters

 

As I said earlier:

 

 

"I hope that the rest of America knows that they are also using Black people to socially condition Americans for the coming Police State that is going to be imposed on the ALL Americans once politicians finish selling our government to corporations under "privatization".

 

And all of the tactics they are using to block Justice [and access to information to obtain justice] for Black people in America now, will be what they will use to block justice [and access to information to obtain justice] for ALL Americans in the future.  

 

America is being tested, by those who wish to impose totalitarian and plutocratic rule in this country; and so far, America is failing miserably."  

 

They probably thought the media people were from some janky youtube channel web series or something....when they found out it was major media, they released them.   I'm going to go back the twitter to get more info...stay tuned

 

and thanks sunnubian for posting my links.  Today is do it yourself media day.

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State Senator To Ferguson Police: 'Will I Get Tear-Gassed Again?'

Posted: 08/13/2014 8:23 pm EDT Updated: 08/14/2014 1:59 am EDT
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FERGUSON, Mo. -- Missouri state Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal confronted Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson during a press conference Wednesday, asking why she was tear-gassed during a nonviolent protest.

Chappelle-Nadal, a Democrat, said she had been tear-gassed while peacefully protesting the death of Michael Brown, the unarmed African-American teenager shot to death by a police officer on Saturday.

"I just wanted to know if I was going to be gassed again, like I was on Monday night," Chappelle-Nadal asked. "We couldn't get out, and we were peacefully sitting. I Just wanted to know if I'm going to be gassed again?"

"I hope not," Jackson replied.

 

Jackson said people at Monday's protest threw rocks at officers and gunfire came from the crowd, so police used tear gas and "beanbag rounds" meant to stun, according to USA Today.

 

Chappelle-Nadal offered The Huffington Post further details following Jackson's press conference.

 

“We were in that neighborhood and we were tear-gassed," she said. "I could not breathe, I could not speak, I could not focus, I could not think because I thought that I were going to die because we were shot at and tear gas was constantly thrown at us and the police officers."

 

She continued: “I'm the senator for the area, and I felt threatened. Everyone felt threatened."

 

Chapelle-Nadal said Jackson's response was "bullshit."

"He blew me off," she said. "It was bullshit, and the thing is ... I don't tell people when I'm out with these kids, 'Hey, I'm your senator.' But I don't care about that, I care about these kids."

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Protests turn violent in St. Louis suburb

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<cite class="byline vcard top-line">By ALAN SCHER ZAGIER and JEFF ROBERSON30 minutes ago</cite>
 
 

FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) — Police used tear gas and smoke bombs to repel crowds who threw Molotov cocktails during another violent night on the streets of a St. Louis suburb in the wake of the shooting of the unarmed 18-year old Michael Brown.

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Hours earlier, the police chief had said race relations were the top priority in the town, where a white police officer fatally shot the black teen. Authorities have vowed to reach across the racial, economic and generational divide in a community in search of answers.

 

In the streets of Ferguson, though, the polite dialogue heard at community forums and news conferences is nowhere to be found.

 

Instead, officers from multiple departments in riot gear and in military equipment have clashed nightly with protesters, who chant, "Hands up, don't shoot." Wednesday saw more tense confrontations and further volleys of tear gas from police — this time paired with smoke bombs in response to flaming projectiles and other objects lobbed from the crowd. Protesters faced heavily armed police who at times trained weapons on them from armored trucks.

 

Two reporters said they were detained by police for not clearing out quickly enough from a McDonald's where they were working, near the protests but away from the more volatile areas. The two, who work for The Washington Post and The Huffington Post, were released without any charges. Both say they were assaulted but not seriously hurt.

 

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that about 10 people had been arrested, including St. Louis Alderman Antonio French, who has been chronicling the protests on social media. Police had said earlier they would not have arrest information until early Thursday.

 

The White House said President Barack Obama — who is on vacation on the Massachusetts island of Martha's Vineyard — was briefed late Wednesday on the situation in Ferguson by Attorney General Eric Holder and senior adviser Valerie Jarrett. Obama has another briefing scheduled for Thursday morning.

 

Residents in Ferguson have complained about what they called a heavy-handed police presence that began with the use of dogs for crowd control soon after Brown's shooting — a tactic that for some invoked the specter of civil rights protests a half-century ago. The county police force took over leading both the investigation of Brown's shooting and the subsequent attempts to keep the peace at the smaller city's request.

 

County Police Chief Jon Belmar, though, said his officers have responded with "an incredible amount of restraint," as they've been the targets of rocks, bottles and gunshots, with two dozen patrol vehicles being destroyed.

 

Police had also asked earlier that people assemble in "an organized and respectful" manner and disperse before evening.

 

The city and county are also under criticism for refusing to release the name of the officer involved in Brown's shooting, citing threats against that officer and others.

 

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson called improving race relations "the top priority right now" but also said he won't be pressured into publicly identifying the officer — despite, he said, mounting demands from clergy, computer hackers and protesters.

 

"We have the right to know, and the family has the right to know who murdered their son," said Sahari Gutierrez, a 27-year-old Ferguson legal assistant.

 

Jackson said he welcomes Justice Department training on racial relations in the suburb, where two-thirds of the 21,000 residents are black while all but three of the police force's 53 officers are white.

 

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon cited the "worsening situation" in Ferguson in saying he would be in the area Thursday. He asked community members to be patient and calm while the investigation proceeds and urged law enforcement agencies to "keep the peace and respect the rights of residents and the press."

 

Jackson said the investigation remains weeks away from completion.

Police have said Brown was shot after an officer encountered him and another man on the street. They say one of the men pushed the officer into his squad car, then physically assaulted him in the vehicle and struggled with the officer over the officer's weapon. At least one shot was fired inside the car.

 

The struggle then spilled onto the street, where Brown was shot multiple times. In their initial news conference about the shooting, police didn't specify whether Brown was the person who scuffled with the officer in the car and have refused to clarify their account.

 

Jackson said Wednesday that the officer involved sustained swelling facial injuries.

 

Dorian Johnson, who says he was with Brown when the shooting happened, has told a much different story. He has told media outlets that the officer ordered them out of the street, then tried to open his door so close to the men that it "ricocheted" back, apparently upsetting the officer.

 

Johnson says the officer grabbed his friend's neck, then tried to pull him into the car before brandishing his weapon and firing. He says Brown started to run and the officer pursued him, firing multiple times. Johnson and another witness both say Brown was on the street with his hands raised when the officer fired at him repeatedly.

 

Among the protesters critical of the police response has been state Sen. Maria Chapelle-Nadal, a Democrat from nearby University City

"I just want to know if I'm going to be gassed again, like I was on Monday night?" she asked Jackson at a press conference. "And I was peaceful. And I'm your state senator."

 

"I hope not," he replied.

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Associated Press reporters Jim Salter and Jim Suhr contributed to this story. Suhr reported from St. Louis.

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Follow Alan Scher Zagier on Twitter at http://twitter.com/azagier

Originally Posted by RadioRaheem:

Tear gas is banned in war, but used by police on US citizens

 

AND I REPEAT:

 


"I hope that the rest of America knows that they are also using Black people to socially condition Americans for the coming Police State that is going to be imposed on the ALL Americans once politicians finish selling our government to corporations under "privatization".

They don't think we're citizens; we think we're citizens.  I don't care what amended number of the Constitution applies:  2 or whatever; they never FORGET they enslaved us from the continent of Africa; we didn't come here via Ellis Island, all hippy happy and shit grinning from ear to ear covered in lice and grime.  We were covered in blood, feces and urine, weren't smellin' too good, after the 3 month journey, scared to the damn max, looking at people who looked they had just risen from the grave, all pale and shit, for the first damn time.  If there was any remaining feces when we stepped off the boat, we lost it immediately when we discovered where we were and with whom and for damn WHAT.

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