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GARY WEBB:
DRUG CONNECTION
By S.R. Shearer


AN ELITE SPONSORED DRUG EPIDEMIC DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO RENDER THE POOR IMPOTENT INSOFAR AS THEIR ELITE OPPRESSORS ARE CONCERNED! - YOU'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS BEFORE? Well, it's not much of a secret, and if you haven't heard about it (especially after Gary Webb's sensational expose in the San Jose Mercury News) then it's probably because you have stubbornly chosen not to know anything about it. [Please see our article, "The Drug Epidemic, Viruses, Ebola, and Aids."]

But for those who don't know anything about this, the facts are these: in August 1996, the San Jose Mercury News initiated an extended series of articles by investigative reporter GARY WEBB called "Dark Alliance" that linked the CIA to the importation of crack cocaine into Los Angeles. The series unleashed a storm of protest, spearheaded by black radio stations and the congressional Black Caucus, with demands for official inquiries. The expose documented the CIA's involvement in opening up -

"... the first pipeline between Colombia's cocaine cartels and the black neighborhoods of Los Angeles, a city now known as the 'crack' capital of the world."

PETER KORNBLUH'S ACCOUNT
OF THE WEBB PHENOMENON
Investigative reporter Peter Kornbluh writes:

"The Mercury News series "touched a raw nerve in the (country) ... Webb's tale brought the story home ... To African-American communities, devastated by the scourge of crack and desperate for information and answers, Webb's reporting found ready constituencies. From Farrakhan followers to the most moderate of black commentators, the story reverberated. 'If this is true, then millions of black lives have been ruined and America's jails and prisons are now clogged with young African-Americans because of a cynical plot by a CIA that historically has operated in contempt of the law', wrote Carl T. Rowan, the syndicated columnist.

"The wildfire-like sweep of 'Dark Alliance' was all the more remarkable because it took place without the tinder of the mainstream press. Instead, the story roared through the new communications media of the Internet and black talk radio - two distinct, but in this case somewhat symbiotic, information channels. With the Internet, as Webb put it, 'You don't have be the New York Times or the Washington Post to bust a national story anymore' ...

"As Webb began giving out his story ... the number of hits to the (San Jose Mercury News) Center's website escalated dramatically, some days reaching as high as 1.3 million. Over all, Bob Ryan, who heads Mercury Center, estimates a 15% visitor increase since the stories appeared. 'For us', he says, 'it has certainly answered the question: Is there anyone out there listening'? The demographics of Web traffic are unknown, but some media specialists believe that the rising numbers at Mercury Center in part reflect what the Chicago Tribune syndicated columnist Clarence Page calls an emerging 'black cyber-consciousness'. Online newsletters and other net services made the series readily available to African-American students, newspapers, radio stations, and community organizations. Patricia Turner, author of I Heard it Through the Grapevine, the definitive study on how information travels through black America, suggests that this marked the 'first time the Internet has electrified African-Americans' in this way. 'The black telegraph', noted Jack While, a Time Magazine columnist, referring to the informal word-of: mouth network used since the days of slavery, 'has moved into cyberspace'.

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THE DEATH OF GARY WEBB = NOMINATION OF JOHN NEGROPONTE
Thu Feb 17, 2005 20:23

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THE DEATH OF GARY WEBB
[Is the government sending us a message?]
Special Article
January 4, 2005
by: S.R. Shearer
http://www.antipasministries.com/ShearerCommentaries/Shearer010405.html

"Tyranny inspires awe and terror precisely because it ALLIES ITSELF WITH DEATH. The spectacle of the scaffold and its terror are its distinguishing marks. Knowing that the tyrant does not shrink from atrocities strikes fear into the hears of his subjects."

- Foucault
INTRODUCTION

On December 10, 2004 former investigative reporter for the San Jose Mercury News Gary Webb - who had been on the CIA's "black list" ever since he broke the story of the agency's VILE involvement in flooding the poor black neighborhoods of L.A. with cocaine in the early 1980s - was found dead in his Sacramento area home, an apparent suicide according to the coroner. There was a gunshot wound through his head. No! - make that TWO (possibly three) gunshot wounds, apparently from his father's old .38 caliber revolver. [Please see our articles, "The Drug Epidemic, Viruses, Ebola, and AIDS" and "Material Developed by Gary Webb on the Importation of Drugs into the Neighborhoods of the Poor" for a "run-down" or synopsis on Webb's article, "Dark Alliance;" please also see our story as to why the elites (and the CIA) targeted the poor black neighborhoods of the country in this fashion, "The Utility of Police Brutality in the Elite's War Against the Poor;" finally, we urge you to read our article on the CIA's obscene involvement in the drug trade entitled, "A Short History of the CIA's Involvement in the Drug Trade."]
MORE INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING: CHRIS STEVENSON
And it wasn't just Webb who in the mid to late 1990s was beginning to put things together insofar as what the elites were doing to the poor concerning the drug epidemic, but countless others as well; the fact is, information regarding the CIA's involvement in the drug trade was simply too pervasive and ubiquitous to be kept buried. For instance, Chris Stevenson, writing in the Buffalo News in Buffalo, New York stumbled on pretty much the same information that Webb had discovered. Stevenson, aghast by what he had found, wrote:

"I first wrote about a plot to funnel drugs into the United States, beginning with the black community, three years ago. Through a process of elimination, I decided that the only real culprit could be the government. Not the Colombian government. Our government, right here in the United States."

Stevenson's link into the drug underworld was Michael Levine, a former Drug Enforcement Administration agent who worked closely with the Central Intelligence Agency. Levine wrote a book called The Big White Lie: The CIA and the Cocaine/Crack Epidemic which documents what he discovered about the elites' effort to swamp the neighborhoods of the poor with drugs and destroy their potential as a "revolutionary" force for change - a potential that the poor (mainly the black community) had almost achieved under Martin Luther King. [Please read our article, "Now Is The Time To Do Something; It May Be Too Late Tomorrow" for the story of how and why the elites made war on Martin Luther King.]

The resultant drug epidemic has also had the concomitant effect of CAGING at one time or another more than one-third of all black males, and an ever increasing number of Hispanic and "poor white trash" males in jail. Moreover, the so-called "three-strikes" law - which evolved out of white indignation for what middle-class Americans consider to be the "animal-like behavior" of the poor - has had the added "benefit" (at least insofar as the elites are concerned) of placing growing numbers of the poor permanently under a kind of modern-day "sword of Domiciles" which has the effect of cowering the poor into submission and rendering huge numbers of them impotent to protest against the injustice of the elites out of fear that they might be "caught up" in a "police sweep" at a protest rally, charged with a "third strike," and "sent up the river" for life. [And believe me, this is the real reason behind the "three strikes" law.]
"We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts ... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth ..."

Patrick Henry
"I came to understand that all the values that made me admire the American people were being eroded by the covert operations of the CIA and kindred secret bodies ... The survival of this great (nation) ... is now being gravely threatened by the covert criminal actions of the Central Intelligence Agency and its associate services ... Democracy and the rule of law cannot survive side by side with a state agency that engages in covert operations ranging from assassinations to levying mercenary armies to directing lethal biological weapons experiments and public health policies ... The whole concept of a secret government and army within a government is a menace to the democratic system."

Sean MacBride
Foreign Minister of Ireland
Nobel Peace Prize recipient
an apparent suicide according to the coroner. There was a gunshot wound through his head. No! - make that TWO (possibly three) gunshot wounds, apparently from his father's old .38 caliber revolver.---article

It's amazing anyone would put such stupidity in the media.

Suicide with 'two, possibly three, gunshot wounds' to the HEAD.

There is a reason we still have a drug problem that our society INSISTS is supported by the African American-American population.

I am convinced the United States has a drug problem, because the United States WANTS a drug problem.

And, the reason CANNOT be money.

i am also convinced that the drug problem in the United States is a major, but not the only, suppression mechanism used on African America by the United States.

No other explanation makes sense.

With me it is not even a point for debate.


PEACE

Jim Chester
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The really sad part about this is even with the truth out, there were members of our community who just didn't give a shit that they were being used by the CIA and keep peddling that poison to our kids. by jazzdog


.....Can't blame the CIA, the Mexican Mafia, etc., for our own shortcomings as a people.

.........Just like any other business entity or enterprize, a business thrives based upon the strength of its' customer base.

.....As long as Black people choose to go this route, the drug dealers will continue conducting business in our community. Should the young people, adults, etc., turn away from purchasing and using illicit drugs, the drug dealers will not survive.

Be it a legitimate or illigitimate business, without customers, the business opportunity folds, or moves elsewhere where the business climate is conducive to the survival of the business.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Originally posted by Michael:
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The really sad part about this is even with the truth out, there were members of our community who just didn't give a shit that they were being used by the CIA and keep peddling that poison to our kids. by jazzdog


.....Can't blame the CIA, the Mexican Mafia, etc., for our own shortcomings as a people.

.........Just like any other business entity or enterprize, a business thrives based upon the strength of its' customer base.

.....As long as Black people choose to go this route, the drug dealers will continue conducting business in our community. Should the young people, adults, etc., turn away from purchasing and using illicit drugs, the drug dealers will not survive.

Be it a legitimate or illigitimate business, without customers, the business opportunity folds, or moves elsewhere where the business climate is conducive to the survival of the business.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton



Thats ridiculous. Although yes, black people did not have to go down that route, this does not mean the CIA is not to blame- come on...
I have to agree with Mike for the most part. Most people cry about the situation and how bad things are all the while wrapping up a "doobie" or two. Hell, just as easily as you said yes you can say no. Unfortunality too many people are working towards the get rich quick scheme and could care less who they drag down.
Let's see..........do I want some new 24's for the Escalade or.....


catch
I agree with Sweetwuzzy and jazzdog, the CIA is responsible also. In my opinion they are more responsible because they are supposed to be protecting everyone in America, not tearing some of them down by setting them up for failure because of their race. Any people or person of any race who are poor with few options is prone to op for easy money. Whites are certainly no different.

So it's unfair to set up blacks by praying upon their poverty and pretending that they are any worse than anyone else for succumbing to a deliberately contrived temptation. It's because people are human that there are laws forbidding certain activities. So if the government breaks its own laws to go out of the way to ensnare the most vulnerable members of a certain people, they are corrupt. It's like posting porn all over the neighborhood and then locking men up for looking at it. The same goes for leaving money out around some one homeless, indebted or hungry. We hope and strive for everyone to have discipline but common sense says it's not plausible
"I have to agree with Mike for the most part. Most people cry about the situation and how bad things are all the while wrapping up a "doobie" or two. Hell, just as easily as you said yes you can say no. Unfortunality too many people are working towards the get rich quick scheme and could care less who they drag down.
Let's see..........do I want some new 24's for the Escalade or....." by ocatchings

Hello ocatchings,

Indeed this is true in that greed, and ignorance cause these individuals to destroy their own health, future, family, and/or the Black community!

Can't continue to go through life blaming others, for situations that Black people have the power to correct. By and large the drug dealers, the CIA, the Mexican Mafia, etc., are not holding Black people at gun point to force Black people to inject, snort, or inhale known poisons in their bodies.

Furthermore, not a one of these individuals needs to be schooled to the fact that illicit drug use will result in stiff penalities, for the most part penalities of a felonious nature!

Heck, I find this argument about as weak, as some of our own elected officials, who get caught stealing from our community, and their response is, "The accusers are racist, I was set up!",

......mind you if these individuals had been ethical, law abiding, and/or loyal to our community to begin with they would not be facing felony criminal prosecution!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Originally posted by shemika:
I agree with Sweetwuzzy and jazzdog, the CIA is responsible also. In my opinion they are more responsible because they are supposed to be protecting everyone in America, not tearing some of them down by setting them up for failure because of their race. Any people or person of any race who are poor with few options is prone to op for easy money. Whites are certainly no different.

So it's unfair to set up blacks by praying upon their poverty and pretending that they are any worse than anyone else for succumbing to a deliberately contrived temptation. It's because people are human that there are laws forbidding certain activities. So if the government breaks its own laws to go out of the way to ensnare the most vulnerable members of a certain people, they are corrupt. It's like posting porn all over the neighborhood and then locking men up for looking at it. The same goes for leaving money out around some one homeless, indebted or hungry. We hope and strive for everyone to have discipline but common sense says it's not plausible



**You are correct...and those of us who do not have to be in that situation of poverty and homelessness NOW...are in a much easier position to judge the character of others...I personally do not believe in condemning people for their actions unless I know the whole set of circumstances surrounding them. I also believe that it is fair to offer some type of solution instead of just going, "oh look at THEM and how THEY are".
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**You are correct...and those of us who do not have to be in that situation of poverty and homelessness NOW...are in a much easier position to judge the character of others...I personally do not believe in condemning people for their actions unless I know the whole set of circumstances surrounding them. I also believe that it is fair to offer some type of solution instead of just going, "oh look at THEM and how THEY are".


....poverty and homelessness is no excuse for ignorance. I came from a state of poverty and being homeless to where I am today.

....I would suppose the sleaze, greed, and unethical activity on the part of our own elected officials, and no good jack leg preachers. to steal from the Black community is also the fault of poverty and homelessness.

My immediate family and I have moved up from being in poverty, and homelessness by being:

A. Ethical, and obeying the law.

B. Respecting the rights of others.

C. Using legal methods to survive.

D. Believing in myself, ourselves, working in the best interest of my immediate family.

E. Respecting and taking on the characteristics of individuals worthy of respect, and dishonoring or placing plenty of distance between anyone unworthy of praise or respect!

F. Self improvement, be it educationally, morally, or otherwise!


Heck, had I, or anyone of my immediate family members charted this course of ignorance, sleaze, greed, and the stupidity of self destruction, slim chance that any one of us would be in the same strong position that we are in today!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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Drug offenses are NON VIOLENT offenses, and not much different than alcoholism or drunkenness. So why aren't people locked up for ingesting or selling alcohol, it leads to a lot of domestic problems and health issues, and is also addictive. But it's just too inconvenient for them to use to serve their agenda of building a Prison Industrial Complex staffed by blacks.

The government politicizes drug use in order to justify targeting blacks even though whites use more drugs than blacks do. They just chose not to pursue them nearly as often and I doubt they go to the trouble to set them up. The entire system is a sham, whereby self righteous whites condemn blacks for the most minor infractions and prop themselves up like saints of some sort.

So, does having been homeless at some point make you all knowing and able to condemn others in a worse condition than you are now? Laying snares for people because of their race is wicked. There are plenty of self motivated crimes going on without intervention that need dealing with such as those rip off auto shops, etc. But NO, those are primarily run by whites so they won't bother them.
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Drug offenses are NON VIOLENT offenses, and not much different than alcoholism or drunkenness. So why aren't people locked up for ingesting or selling alcohol, it leads to a lot of domestic problems and health issues, and is also addictive. But it's just too inconvenient for them to use to serve their agenda of building a Prison Industrial Complex staffed by blacks.

The government politicizes drug use in order to justify targeting blacks even though whites use more drugs than blacks do. They just chose not to pursue them nearly as often and I doubt they go to the trouble to set them up. The entire system is a sham, whereby self righteous whites condemn blacks for the most minor infractions and prop themselves up like saints of some sort.

So, does having been homeless at some point make you all knowing and able to condemn others in a worse condition than you are now? Laying snares for people because of their race is wicked. There are plenty of self motivated crimes going on without intervention that need dealing with such as those rip off auto shops, etc. But NO, those are primarily run by whites so they won't bother them.


Unless you are driving under the influence or drunk in public, the consumption of alcohol is not a criminal offense.

The use of illicit narcotics, be it heroin, cocaine, crack, speed, LSD, a joint, etc., be it within your house, behind the wheel of an automobile, or under the influence in public, these activities are criminal offenses.

Unless illicit drug usage and sales in decriminalized, at some point the user or the seller will face criminal indictment. At any rate, illicit drug usage, sales, and possession is considered illegal.

Unless sold to minors, sold outside of regulated business hours, having an open container of alcohol in a vehicle, or sold without a license, the sales, consumption, and possession of alcohol is not illegal.

Since you admit yourself the unfairness of the judicial system, to which I too agree, why put yourself in this position in the first place considering that the court system, the prison system is very heavy handed in dealing with Black people. There is no excuse for this type of activity. Why give the authorities reason to throw the book in criminal prosecution at you in the first place.


It is difficult enough playing it straight, let alone giving police officers, judges, and the jury legitimate ammunition via criminal acts that you have truly committed to bring on your own criminal penal incarceration, fines, and/or both.

I don't sympathize with these individuals. About all that can be done is to see to it that such an individual receives a fair trial, or if necessary drug treatment.

It makes more sense to come to the rescue of, show admiration for, praise, and support the quest for "Equal Justice and Protection Under the Law", for the truly innocent who have served unwarranted time behind bars, and/or who have been persecuted in other ways for crimes not committed, than to waste limited valuable resources rescuing the truly criminal.

When you truly violate the law, it is much more difficult to gain your freedom, contest the infraction, seek redress, and/or clear your good name.

Heck, Black people from all walks of life have lost real property, personal property, the legal right to gainful employment, legal custody to their siblings, their health, and have contributed to the destruction of their neighbor's real property, personal property, health, livelihood, and other truly destructive results behind this illicit drug use, and illicit drug dealing activity.

....There is no excuse for this activity. Heck, the Mexican Mafia, being a major illicit drug supplier is making a financial killing off our our own ignorance as a people to stand tall in the name of righteousness, and to be men and women, for the sake of our own self preservation.

By and large the Mexican Mafia, MS-13, etc., are not users, but sellers, who launder their illicitly earned profits, to make legitimate business opportunities for their people, so that their future posterity can turn to legitimate avenues as opposed to the subculture for their existance.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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It is difficult enough playing it straight, let alone giving police officers, judges, and the jury legitimate ammunition via criminal acts that you have truly committed to bring on your own criminal penal incarceration, fines, and/or both.

I don't sympathize with these individuals. About all that can be done is to see to it that such an individual receives a fair trial, or if necessary drug treatment.

>If that was the case, then most of the suspects that use drugs getting arrested would be white, but you won't see 1000's of white faces on the news getting locked up.

It makes more sense to come to the rescue of, show admiration for, praise, and support the quest for "Equal Justice and Protection Under the Law", for the truly innocent who have served unwarranted time behind bars, and/or who have been persecuted in other ways for crimes not committed, than to waste limited valuable resources rescuing the truly criminal.

When you truly violate the law, it is much more difficult to gain your freedom, contest the infraction, seek redress, and/or clear your good name.

Heck, Black people from all walks of life have lost real property, personal property, the legal right to gainful employment, legal custody to their siblings, their health, and have contributed to the destruction of their neighbor's real property, personal property, health, livelihood, and other truly destructive results behind this illicit drug use, and illicit drug dealing activity.

....There is no excuse for this activity. Heck, the Mexican Mafia, being a major illicit drug supplier is making a financial killing off our our own ignorance as a people to stand tall in the name of righteousness, and to be men and women, for the sake of our own self preservation.

By and large the Mexican Mafia, MS-13, etc., are not users, but sellers, who launder their illicitly earned profits, to make legitimate business opportunities for their people, so that their future posterity can turn to legitimate avenues as opposed to the subculture for their existance.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton


So what you're saying that the Crips and Bloods should be "community" minded like the Mexican gangs and help build the community?? Confused

That's a nice hypothesis, if the law didn't think every black male over the age of eight was a criminal. A black man could be arrested for ANYTHING. We could be arrested just for sneezing inside a pepper factory.
"So what you're saying that the Crips and Bloods should be "community" minded like the Mexican gangs and help build the community??

That's a nice hypothesis, if the law didn't think every black male over the age of eight was a criminal. A black man could be arrested for ANYTHING. We could be arrested just for sneezing inside a pepper factory."

If any individual, or group of individuals, be it a gang member or otherwise, who are Black, Hispanic, or otherwise changed their life style, their chances of survival would increase.

I can place names on the circumstances of people who I grew up with in foster homes, and/or a classmate, etc., ......those who played it straight more so than not, are still living, they are not behind bars, or buried six feet under.

Mexican Mafia members are even turning legitimate, and the O.G.s meaning the leaders are advising their "homies" to play it straight to concentrate on educating themselves, etc., to increase their chances of survival, and to promote the survival of their posterity.

Again, there is no excuse for committing criminal acts. Thinking one is a criminal is one thing, but actually being involved in criminal activity can ruin your days on earth, meaning death, penal incarceration, or that felony jacket that stays there for life!

An individual such as Geronimo Pratt would have had a very difficult time finding individuals to sacrifice their time and effort to free him, clear his good name, and gain restitution from the State of California, for a murder that he did not commit, had the evidence, the circumstances been different, meaning evidence and circumstance existed to prove that he truly committed murder.

"Big Tookie" did it, and the individuals murdered by him are other Black people. "Big Tookie" will never see the streets again, and will remain on death row, at San Quentin, one of the worst penitentaries in the U.S.

It is your choice, commit criminal acts, or play it straight. Those who play it straight have a better chance of clearing their good name, demanding restitution, and/or staying out of jail.

I too have been behind bars, the evidence to prove my innocence has made it possible for me to move forward, with a clear conscience, and a clear reputation. Better to be on the right side of the law to begin with, than to have truly committed the infraction, crime, etc., and not have a prayer of chance to clear your good name, have a clear conscience, or have a prayer of a chance to have the grounds to file a claim for damages.

If you can prove that you were arrested, incarcerated, and/or fined for "sneezing in a pepper factory", you have grounds for redress. On the other hand, if you are truly involved in criminal activity, Oh Well, crime does not pay,.......eventually you will pay the price, be it penal incarceration, a death sentence, or otherwise!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Hello Kweli4Real,

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Originally posted by Kweli4Real:
Good Post Lofton tfro


....Change of format. Tired of making enemies. I'm going to give it a rest as it relates to condemning our leadership.

....now back to the topic.

Like any other endeavor, in the event you happen to be one of the best of the best, you won't serve so much as an hour behind bars, or if caught, instead of penal incarceration, the U.S. government would be most interested in your services to catch other criminals.

In this instance the government will pay you a handsome fee to assist them in preventing others from following your lead. This again leaves the majority of the criminal community out of the mix, in that crime only pays if you are exceptionally good at it, so good that the government would be willing to pay for your expertise.
Michael, you appear to be dancing around the point just to make a defense for the status quote. Wrong is wrong regardless of who does it including the police or government. If they have to engage in misconduct to ensnare people due to a racist motive they are corrupt and anything else they do is suspect.

Imprisonment of blacks by the government as a form of cheap labor is an American tradition. This has often served as a replacement to official slavery and is how the railroads, etc., were built. Because of company downsizing prisons have been erected all over primarily to aid the economy under the exaggeration of high crime rates. Local companies prosper from prison contracts, townsfolk obtain employment there, and I've heard of companies such as JC Penny utilizing prison labor.

I don't know if you heard about the Tulia TX matter where a large percentage of the black population were incarcerated for drug offenses based solely upon the lies of a racist detective. Well, after years of incarceration they were released after many people persistently organized, protested, and obtained attorney's to represent them. How many black people are being set up in this manner with no voice, money for an attorney, and without such support, we will never know. That's the primary reason poor blacks are being targeted, due to their low social status, they can be easily lied on, and no one will believe them thanks to the power of racist stereotyping. As well as sweeping condescending generalist such as yourself who make up the mainstream population.
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Originally posted by shemika:
Michael, you appear to be dancing around the point just to make a defense for the status quote. Wrong is wrong regardless of who does it including the police or government. If they have to engage in misconduct to ensnare people due to a racist motive they are corrupt and anything else they do is suspect.

Imprisonment of blacks by the government as a form of cheap labor is an American tradition. This has often served as a replacement to official slavery and is how the railroads, etc., were built. Because of company downsizing prisons have been erected all over primarily to aid the economy under the exaggeration of high crime rates. Local companies prosper from prison contracts, townsfolk obtain employment there, and I've heard of companies such as JC Penny utilizing prison labor.

I don't know if you heard about the Tulia TX matter where a large percentage of the black population were incarcerated for drug offenses based solely upon the lies of a racist detective. Well, after years of incarceration they were released after many people persistently organized, protested, and obtained attorney's to represent them. How many black people are being set up in this manner with no voice, money for an attorney, and without such support, we will never know. That's the primary reason poor blacks are being targeted, due to their low social status, they can be easily lied on, and no one will believe them thanks to the power of racist stereotyping. As well as sweeping condescending generalist such as yourself who make up the mainstream population.


...No doubt wrong is wrong no matter who does it. Well Kweli4Real, IRONHORSE, etc., I'm trying my best to keep from bringing up the failure of our own leadership and Black middleclass, to be the first to step up to the plate, with respect to representing any Black man or woman falsely accused, unwarrantedly fined, etc., but the responses such as above won't allow me to remain silent!

.....Again I'm well aware of the issues, the high crime rate, the high incarceration rate of Black people, the use of penal incarceration for cheap labor, the break-up of the Black family structure for profit, to which the unwarranted break-up of the traditional Black family for profit is in many instances perpetrated by other Black people, and its' primary causes are namely:

A. Lack of competent representation.

B. Lack of enough gainfulful opportunities that in many instances can cause someone with no previous criminal history to commit an infraction or a serious criminal act to provide the necessities of life.

C. Unfair court decisions, Corruption in government, etc., etc.

D. The greed, sleaze, and incompetence of the Black middleclass help to promote A, B, and C.

....Here again be it A, B,C, or D it is not the first responsibility of the government, or private industry to serve the many Black people facing this music!

Heck, public defenders are paid by the government. A public defender will not bite the hand or hands that feed them. This being said the truly innocent won't receive a fair trial if represented by a public defender.

Corporate American cannot provide gainful employment for every Caucasian, let alone providing work for anyone presumed to be Black.

It is more the duty of our own Black lawyers, elected officials, clergymen, and/or other members of the Black middle-class to come to the aid of any Black man or woman falsely, or accused, make some sacrifices to create employment opportunities so that other avenues exist to prevent Black people from commiting criminal acts in the name of survival.

Heck, I have a first cousin who is licensed to practice law here in the state of California. He thinks or believes that the entertainment industry is going to enable him to make that financial killing. He is dreaming though, because unless a Denzel Washington, or other high profile Black actor or actress contracts for his serves, slim chance exists that any prominent Caucasian, Korean, Hispanic, etc., actor or actress will need his services. Furthermore my own cousin believes that his "High Yellow" skintone is going to open the door of opportunity for him, over Black people who are dark skinned. This guy is alreadly miseducated, and his thinking is off track, because your skill set, your ability to make things happen, and/or your ability to perform are the ingredients to success, not your skin color. No matter how I approach him, I can't seem to raise any positive response to get him to represent the Black oppressed,......be it my family's situation, or the falsely accused, jailed, and fined, as published in "Theft by Court", one individual whose last name is "Steadman", none of my family members being related to this individual.

Tyler Perry's Book and movie "the Diary of a Mad Black Woman", pretty much describes that Black middleclass, in that far too many of them do not serve the Black community, far too many of them believe that Caucasians are going to show more respect for them than their own Caucasian community, or in many instances these individuals attempt to run away from being Black until that first confrontation with a police officer. Then, and only then does the reality set it, that running away from being Black, and thinking that they are better than the underclass, or working class Black people is just not possible.

Heck, as you state, in every jurisdiction enough work exists, to come to the aid of truly oppressed Black people. But typically a Reverend Al Sharpton, a Reverend Jesse Jackson, an Attorney Johhny Cochran, will get on the first 767 jet to fly 3000 miles away, or race to the Far East, namely because their actions are media driven, which is why the term "ambulance chasers" surely fits.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton

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"In my opinion they are more responsible because they are supposed to be protecting everyone in America, not tearing some of them down by setting them up for failure because of their race. Any people or person of any race who are poor with few options is prone to op for easy money. Whites are certainly no different. "



You are right. The CIA's job is not to fill communities with drugs. They are supposed to be protecting Americans. Of course, blacks need to be on guard, and can not allow people to manipulate us. It is this, that blacks are guilty of.

Self-haters would like to defend the CIA, and blame the people whom the CIA were trying to sabotage. Makes no sense.... Why the hell would someone defend someone who is flooding communities with drugs?


To Michael:

Tell me, since when was it's the CIA/governments job to flood communites with drugs? Should the government "go down this route"?
"Tell me, since when was it's the CIA/governments job to flood communites with drugs? Should the government "go down this route"?by sweetwuzzy

Same or similar response:

.....and as long as "Kerosene" Waters and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus play the race card or blame the CIA for illicit drug trafficking, this gives these individuals unworthy of holding elected office an excuse to do nothing for their constituency.

South Central Los Angeles is a community of high unemployment, high criminal activity, high in mortuary businesses, and an unusually high concentration of Churches, ....Heck former movie theatre auditoriums have been used as Church facilities for years. I don't know which is worse, the drug dealers, or the over saturation of religious doctrine, in no good poverty pimping preachers! I will say that do nothing game playing elected officials such as Kerosene Waters and others keep the Black community in poverty, prison, dependent on social welfare, or the frustration of survival drives some Black people to using illicit drugs or other criminal activity.


.....Blame or not the CIA, the Mexican Mafia, are not the primary reason for our own shortcomings as a people.

.........Just like any other business entity or enterprize, a business thrives based upon the strength of its' customer base.

.....As long as Black people choose to go this route, the drug dealers will continue conducting business in our community. Should the young people, adults, etc., turn away from purchasing and using illicit drugs, the drug dealers will not survive.

Be it a legitimate or illigitimate business, without customers, the business opportunity folds, or moves elsewhere where the business climate is conducive to the survival of the business.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Lofton, Just a question ...

You say that the Black community has big problems (I somewhat agree). You say that our people must make right choices (I really agree). You say that it is up to Black people to take contol of our communities (I absolutely agree).

But if we believe all this, What does elected officials and their race baiting matter? While they are not helping solve the problem, they certianly are not making the problems worse.

In fact, it could be argued that their race-baiting can serve as a diversion from those of us that are working to uplift the community.

It gives those of us that have no ambition/drive/balls something to believe in (blame the condition on). But that's Okay, those of us in this condition probably won't accomplish much anyway.

It garners the support of race-guilted whites. And gives the racist white something to rile against. This is Okay, because the guilty ones can lend a hand, provide a job, contribute cash, whatever. And the racist white will never have be supportive. Their response to the race-baiting is to attack the elected officials, not the folk that are working the front lines.
Michael – you sound just like a white man. You keep irrationally reiterating the same rhetoric without acknowledging individual realities where blacks are concerned. You seem to see black people as an isolated single minded unit acting as one without regard to individual circumstances and influences, which is very inhumane. Although you claim to acknowledge the realities, your conclusions demonstrate otherwise.

All you do is point fingers, blaming blacks for matters often beyond their control. You bring no sensible solutions other than broad, sweeping, unrealistic comments that don't actually address those realities, but rather, disregards and dismisses them. Saying, "All blacks have to do is stop dealing with drugs.", is not only simple minded, it ignores the power of racist institutional stereotyping and corruption that stigmatizes and persecutes even innocent blacks as occurred in TX. History should tell you that if drugs were out of the picture they would still find something else to justify a means to their end.

Also, how do you propose that the black middle class change the condition of black people in general? They basically get their income from white owned and controlled establishments that have traditionally terminated or blackballed anyone they disapproved of. The black leaders of the 50's and 60's did a very good job, that's why they were assassinated. That alone should tell you something about what blacks are up against when it comes to gaining real power and protection from their schemes. Proof of what blacks have to deal with is also documented on the COINTELPRO website.

What the Black Panthers and other black organizations were promoting, was unity, pro-black education, having each others back, and placing responsibility on the perpetrators and benefactors of racism rather than helping to tear each other down by blaming the consequences of it on the blacks of it's victims. Which is the answer, and is why the white establishment hated them. Watch who they hate and you'll know who's on the right track; someone like yourself will gain their approval.
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Michael – you sound just like a white man. You keep irrationally reiterating the same rhetoric without acknowledging individual realities where blacks are concerned. You seem to see black people as an isolated single minded unit acting as one without regard to individual circumstances and influences, which is very inhumane. Although you claim to acknowledge the realities, your conclusions demonstrate otherwise.

All you do is point fingers, blaming blacks for matters often beyond their control. You bring no sensible solutions other than broad, sweeping, unrealistic comments that don't actually address those realities, but rather, disregards and dismisses them. Saying, "All blacks have to do is stop dealing with drugs.", is not only simple minded, it ignores the power of racist institutional stereotyping and corruption that stigmatizes and persecutes even innocent blacks as occurred in TX. History should tell you that if drugs were out of the picture they would still find something else to justify a means to their end.

Also, how do you propose that the black middle class change the condition of black people in general? They basically get their income from white owned and controlled establishments that have traditionally terminated or blackballed anyone they disapproved of. The black leaders of the 50's and 60's did a very good job, that's why they were assassinated. That alone should tell you something about what blacks are up against when it comes to gaining real power and protection from their schemes. Proof of what blacks have to deal with is also documented on the COINTELPRO website.

What the Black Panthers and other black organizations were promoting, was unity, pro-black education, having each others back, and placing responsibility on the perpetrators and benefactors of racism rather than helping to tear each other down by blaming the consequences of it on the blacks of it's victims. Which is the answer, and is why the white establishment hated them. Watch who they hate and you'll know who's on the right track; someone like yourself will gain their approval.


....Sorry to dissappoint you Kweli4Real, kemika, Kevin41, Herustar, Vox, etc., but there is no way that you can destroy my credibility as it relates to the game playing, the sleaze, etc., etc., that Black people perpetrate on each other.

....As far as Kerosene Waters, Brentwood Burke, the many jack leg no good Black preachers, and the like, I've witnessed first hand the sleaze, greed, and incompetence of these individuals since I was a child.

...Heck, during the period when my sisters and brothers were being passed between Black folks to collect illicitly earned AFDC benefits was a wake up call.

Just as surely as my people contacted Joe Pine radio, and the lone Black woman who heard this message, as it relates to my Dad, and Mom trying to locate their children.

......Maxine Waters, Yvonne B. Burke, etc., etc., were contacted in person, by telephone, by U.S. certified mail, and/or by other by many other individuals regarding this reality of that middleclass using another family members to collect AFDC benefits.

When an appointment was arranged and agreed upon as to the date and time of a meeting to address this serious set of circumstances, these individual would play games, send the victim on the runnaround, etc., etc. On the date and time of the appointed the administrative aids, assistants, etc., would state, "You just missed them, as it relate to our so-called elected Black leaders", in a Brentwood Burke, Maxine Waters, Merv Dymally, etc., etc. Upon leaving the field representative office of a Maxine Waters, Augustus Hawkins, Merv Dymally, etc., these no good elected representatives would then re-enter the office from some back room or office once their administrative assistances alerted them my parents left the premises. After continuously being subjected to the "run around", my parents started using certified mail to document by petition the fact that these individuals were contacted, and the basis for the complaint. A hint to the wise, if you are going to commit sleazy acts, don't ever do this around a child, a teenager, etc., because they will never forget it!


Seems to me, the lone Black woman (A responsible Black woman), and/or Joe Pine (a Caucasian responsible U.S. citizen and owner of Joe Pine Radio) is more deserving of respect and admiration, or for matter more deserving of the position of elected representatives. Elected Officials by definition are mandated by law and sworn in under oath of office to be public servants. Our typical Black elected officials use this position to serve themselves, and their friends at the expense of law abiding Black people, or their constituency.

....but let a Caucasian police officer shoot a Black man, woman, or child, and Kerosene Waters will race back to Los Angeles to play the race card, condemn the Police, etc., etc., ....but she has yet to use her position of influence to assist that Black man, woman, or child maimed, killed, or otherwise to receive just compensation for the atrocities of a government seriously gone awry. Ambulance Reverend Jesse Jackson, and Reverend Al Sharpton were so sure that this most recent shooting of a Black man, and the residents with 120 rounds fired by Los Angeles County Sheriffs was an all Caucasian against Black people atrocity. Chief Baca, the community residents of Compton, the media, and the local community activists, in a Naji Ali, sent both of these media attention for their own personal gain shakedown poverty pimping fake activist packing like a runaway freight train out of the County of Los Angeles.

Black people have been killing Black people, and breaking up Black families for profit for decades. When this activity occurs, you never hear from, see, or get any response from Kerosen Waters, Brentwood Burke, Merv Dymally, Walter Tucker, Marc Ridley Thomas, Diane Watson, Martin Ludlow, Theresa Hughes, Gilbert Lindsey, Tom Bradley, Dave Cunningham, Reverend Jesse Jackson, Reverend Al Sharpton, Poverty Pimping Danny Bakewell, Ambulance Chasing Attorney Johnny Cochran, etc., etc., etc., or that typical Black middle class.

Heck, but it is understandable as to the reason for silence. This activity like illicit drug dealing is a part of the economy, or means to make a living of that Black middle class.

Butcher/Killer King atrocities, perpetrated by Black doctors, nurses, and administrators have been going since the 70s. Again, Brentwood Burke, Merv Dymally, Kerosene Waters, etc., etc., have been quiet, and have condoned this activity.

......Civil lawsuit in behalf of the many victims, is what is making for quality of life improvement in South Central Los Angeles. The numerous civil lawsuits for damages, have caused Caucasian, Hispanic, or other elected officials, doctors, lawyers, to "Crack the Whip", "Blow the Whistle", expose the activity by publishing it in the Los Angeles Times, and by firing or forcing many of these no good Black nurses, doctors, or hospital administrators to resign.

Like other victims who have filed claims for damages, and/or who are taking action to remove that disgraceful Black middle class from Butcher/King Hospital, the Lofton family will eventually be paid, and that no good game playing set of Black elected officials will be removed from elected office. Some are being removed by criminal indictment, and many will be removed by demographic shifts, because unlike that typical Black middleclass who protect, remains silent, or profits from the destruction of destroying the Black family structure, Hispanics are very family oriented, meaning they will not put up with this foolishness.

Tyler Perry, If you are listening, I know that you can relate to this. Coming from the "Hood" just like you, I know for a fact that there are many Black people around, from all walks of life, that would just as soon shake hands with you, as to quickly stab you in the back when your back is turned, or your guards are down.

I'm on the roll Kweli4Real, and there is nothing you can do to stop this message. The numbers of Black people who agree with me are growing. Tune in to, KRLA, A.M. 890, and you can listen to some of them on any given day make similar statements, meaning you are outnumbered.

There are only a few people on this message board who can relate to this message, as it relates to the uncouthness, the obnoxiousness of that typical Black middle class. I'm sure that ocatchings can relate to some of this material as well. I know IronHorse relates to this material, because of the unwarranted insults sent his direction by a few members of AfricanAmerica.org.

Don't have to prove my Blackness to anyone. I have years of experience!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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Michael you paint the black community with too broad of a brush and you are just wrong plain and simple, what you are talking about is really decay of the black community since segregation ended and also what has happened to black people since we stepped off the slave ships 400 years ago and the overall decay of American morals and culture which targets no race. Blacks have not completely recovered from our History in the America's and the American Indians who have yet to recover a little bit from their past. Your approach to addressing these issues will never work castigating and stereotyping blacks you don't like. What you are doing is not about black people but it is really about you. Whatever happened to you and your family has little to do with black people as a race but it is an easy target of your pain. Oh well, it does not matter because you are beyond reason because you are obsessed with whatever pain that causes you to lash out as you do. Get help.
Now Lofton take a breath. Your'e attacking me without provocation.

I was actually agreeing with you that there are elected officials in our community of little effect or use. I also agree that the salvation of our community will come from individuals making "right" life choices and the community acting in concert to promote our community.

But I hope you understand that in the end, we are all we have. white folk are NOT going to be our salvation, being white-like (in thought or action) will not be our salvation. The white, Hispanic, and Asian communities are all like the Black community, in that they have individual successes and individual failures. You can't cherry-pick the successes of members of other communities and attribute them to the community at large, while cherry-picking individual failures in the Black community and attribute it to the Black community at large. It is flawed logic. And appears to be self-hating.

By way of friendly suggestion, please:

1) Come to terms with the "wrongs" that were done to you and your family. Understand that those "wrongs" were not committed by the Black community; but rather individuals that happened to be Black.

2) Stop indicting the entire Black community (which by your claim includes you) for the failings of individuals whom happen to by Black. While ignoring the failings of members of every other community. It comes across as self-hatred.

3) Stop making the "when-someone-disagrees-with-me,-they-are-attempting-to-question-my-credibility-and/or-Blackness" leap. They may be questioning or pointing out flaws in your logic or pointing out that your arguments are similar to or the same as racists members of other communities.

This will no doubt unleash a new salvo of unrelated linking and protestations of credibility questioning and/or "script flipping" attempts bang nono; but I'm cool with that. I'll just scan you post for relevance and ignore the rest. tfro

Peace
"Stop indicting the entire Black community (which by your claim includes you) for the failings of individuals whom happen to by Black. While ignoring the failings of members of every other community. It comes across as self-hatred." by Kweli4real

"Now Lofton take a breath. Your'e attacking me without provocation." by Kweli4Real

...and you are making mis-statements of fact without justification. I have not condemned the entire Black community!

More likely these individuals hate themselves. Again, it is you who distorts the reality of it. With regard to the reality of it, Los Angeles Superior Court Case #895188 was not filed against the Black community.

.....now I've specifically named many of the individuals, meaning I have not blamed the entire Black community.

....again be it for praise or condemnation, I have specifically named many of the individuals or organizations, and I'm not about to flip this script


....Well Kweli4Real or anyone else of similar expression, no where does this indict the entire Black community as you have so erroneously proclaimed,

.........and again I'm not about to flip this script!


...more likely these individuals, and the Black middle class who support them hate themselves, because I had nothing to do with this sleaze! Now if this fits you Kweli4Real, then you too hate yourself!

...but Like Usual, the Democrats would prefer to blame the Republican Party for the demise of the Black community, mind you the Democratic Party through an inept self serving elitist bunch of Black elected officials is destroying the Black community!

Sincerely

Michael Lofton
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Michael – you are really ridiculous. I wondered why you were not giving a direct answer to anyone's questions, and after observing your responses to some of the other forums I noticed you just cut and paste the same responses everywhere.

You are obviously no different than the Uncle Toms you complain about. You have no interest in bringing a solution to the problems you rant about, but only wish to tell your personal stories as an excuse to condemn and stereotype other blacks. You sound like someone heavily indoctrinated by white supremacist philosophies. Do you cohabitate with whites?

Just complaining about what is the consequence of blacks being brainwashed to have a Willie Lynch mentality and normal human frailties without bringing forth viable solutions indicates you are a part of the problem. You must acknowledge that anytime someone is hired, that person is only a servant of their employer's interests and whatever they've been trained to do.

Whites are very well organized concerning serving their own interests as demonstrated by the many white supremacist hate groups. It is a wicked from of organization but is still organization, albeit aimed specifically against our people. To me this indicates that the solution to our people is to become organized as well. Our organization should be aimed at neutralizing the impact institutionalized racism has had on our people's psyche as well as mentoring our children, supporting each other, planning, and executing our empowerment.
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Our organization should be aimed at neutralizing the impact institutionalized racism has had on our people's psyche as well as mentoring our children, supporting each other, planning, and executing our empowerment.
by Shemika

Institutional racism is alive and well. It seems that there are two possible responses to it, both of which are represented in this thread. First, one can recognize that IR has impacted our psyche and work to find a remedy; the other is to internalize the brutality and turn it towards those that suffer the same as you.

One must ask themselves, "which is my response?"
Shemika, and/or anyone else of similar expression,

"Just complaining about what is the consequence of blacks being brainwashed to have a Willie Lynch mentality and normal human frailties without bringing forth viable solutions indicates you are a part of the problem. You must acknowledge that anytime someone is hired, that person is only a servant of their employer's interests and whatever they've been trained to do."

Elected officials are elected by the people, and mandated by law to serve the jurisdiction of the community served. The voters are the employer and elected officials are the employees of the people. All elected representatives are mandated by law, and sworn in under oath of office, to work for the people represented. This being said, the response of blaming Caucasians, and "playing the race card", for our own elected officials failure to perform the duty of being an elected office holder is meaningless.

"Just complaining about what is the consequence of blacks being brainwashed to have a Willie Lynch mentality and normal human frailties without bringing forth viable solutions indicates you are a part of the problem!" by Shemika

...any victim of this activity has the right to speak up, challenge, make known, condemn such activity, and if necessary seek redress for such activity. In the best interest of protecting a U.S. citizen's right to be safe and secure in the possession of personal property, real property, the sanctity of a family, and to have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, it would behoove any victim to blow the whistle on this illegal, treasonous, and unwarranted activity, no matter who the perpetrator!

With respect to Black on Black criminal activity, be it capital crimes, breaking up the Black family structure for profit, placing minors including infants on probation, playing games while holding elected office, using false pretenses to hold elected office, no good sacreligious Black preachers stealing from Black people while in the pulpit, or the many atrocities of slavery during the "Reconstruction Era", the Bush Administration, Condoleeza Rice, the Republican Party, Janice Rogers, Larry Elder, Michael Lofton or other conservative minded Blacks, etc., are not responsible for this activity.

Sleaze, greed, incompetence, treason, ignorance, selfishness, hatred of self, etc., are more likely reasons as to the reality of Black on Black criminal acts, and/or wrongdoing.


....with regard to violations of law perpetrated by Caucasians against the Lofton family, a formal civil lawsuit has been filed to hold the defendants accountable for their actions. Filing a civil complaint for violation of law, is a legal remedy or solution to achieve redress.

...The other questions that you seek answers to have already been answered!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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"Tell me, since when was it's the CIA/governments job to flood communites with drugs? Should the government "go down this route"?by sweetwuzzy

Same or similar response:

.....and as long as "Kerosene" Waters and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus play the race card or blame the CIA for illicit drug trafficking, this gives these individuals unworthy of holding elected office an excuse to do nothing for their constituency.

South Central Los Angeles is a community of high unemployment, high criminal activity, high in mortuary businesses, and an unusually high concentration of Churches, ....Heck former movie theatre auditoriums have been used as Church facilities for years. I don't know which is worse, the drug dealers, or the over saturation of religious doctrine, in no good poverty pimping preachers! I will say that do nothing game playing elected officials such as Kerosene Waters and others keep the Black community in poverty, prison, dependent of social welfare, or the frustration of survival drives some Black people to using illicit drugs or other criminal activity.


.....Blame or not the CIA, the Mexican Mafia, are not the primary reason for our own shortcomings as a people.

.........Just like any other business entity or enterprize, a business thrives based upon the strength of its' customer base.

.....As long as Black people choose to go this route, the drug dealers will continue conducting business in our community. Should the young people, adults, etc., turn away from purchasing and using illicit drugs, the drug dealers will not survive.

Be it a legitimate or illigitimate business, without customers, the business opportunity folds, or moves elsewhere where the business climate is conducive to the survival of the business.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton


yes or no... Is it the Job of the CIA/government to intentionally flood any community up with drugs...

Why are you not outraged with the CIA, if all this is true??? I never knew you were a Pusher sympathizer...hmmmm
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yes or no... Is it the Job of the CIA/government to attempt to flood any community up with drugs...


...and in any business should the customer be disrespected the customers will not hesitate to find another source to make that purchase!

Of course not. But here again, be it private business, or a government owned money making business venture, the life of the business is only as good as its' customer base.

....This being said, Black people who choose to kick themselves in the rear end, can only fault themselves. The CIA, the Mexican Mafia, The Crips, the Bloods, etc., etc., did not coerce Black people to take on this very self destructive activity!

Heck, I'm not angry with the CIA, the Mexican Mafia, the Bloods, the Crips, etc.

I would be very angry with myself though if I were ignorant enough to "kick myself in my own rear end with my own size ten shoes", as it relates to my own choice to engage in the use of self destructive to my own best interest illicit drug usage!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
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