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We all know that blacks 'adopted' Christianity. We also know that Christianity is the religion of our anti-black oppressors.

What I would like to know is, how is it that we were bamboozled into thinking that NOI is pro-black, and that muslims share OUR agenda?

I've read many different perspectives on African History, and they all point to one fact. Muslims DO NOT share a pro-black agenda. Muslims OPPRESSED the true indigenous blacks FIRST. They ransacked Egypt, Ethiopia, Sudan, Ancient Ghana, Mahli... just to name a few; sometimes with promises of riches; but most times by 'holy' FORCE. In doing so even they created their own 'his'story. Still today I believe they lay claim to contributing to the creation and advancement of north central, and most of west Africa.

The deceit of these two oppressive religions knows know limits or boundaries. I'm struggling these days, because I'm beginning to think they ARE the BLACK stumbling blocks.

No one finds it curious the two 'great' leaders of African-Americans held on to their respective oppressive doctrines with religous fervor, and were killed by mere pawns, that shared their religous values and beliefs?

I tread lightly, because I don't want this to be confused with some sort of 'man-made' conspiricacy. This is bigger than man, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
THAT TYPE OF HONESTY IS BELOW MY PAYGRADE.
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two things turned me off...

1. NOI is a new, fresh, pro-black religion, independent of Arabian Islam

2. Arabians are black.

I stopped reading at the second piece of b.s.

It all sounds like seductive rhetoric to me.

1. oh baby, I'm not like them other guys, I'm real, I'm here for you baby

2. you from Brooklyn! oh snap, I'm from Brooklyn too! I see we gone have a lot in common.

That's what I gathered from those two statements, just bout' made me throw this damn laptop.

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Sorry bout' the frustration, but I don't like being played.
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Originally posted by HeruStar:
two things turned me off...

1. NOI is a new, fresh, pro-black religion, independent of Arabian Islam

2. Arabians are black.

I stopped reading at the second piece of b.s.

It all sounds like seductive rhetoric to me.

1. oh baby, I'm not like them other guys, I'm real, I'm here for you baby

2. you from Brooklyn! oh snap, I'm from Brooklyn too! I see we gone have a lot in common.

That's what I gathered from those two statements, just bout' made me throw this damn laptop.

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Sorry bout' the frustration, but I don't like being played.


lol

it'll be alright, Heru tfro
Wow, I missed ths thread. Heru Star, the jihadists who came to Yurobaland are the ones who caused the fall of the empire and the subsequent mass enslavement of the largest ethnic group in Africa(and also to be transported into the diaspora). They were the straw that broke the camels back...and made paved the way for the European invaders.

Once again, I will not call you Jesus Star anymore...
I may have mislead my intentions... I'll just be frank.

If blacks are going to identify Christianity with oppression and african religous intolerance, then they need to show the same judgement towards Islamic faith. NOI are just as much religous pimps than any other Evangelical faith.

Any faith that uses members to support the ministry and not a ministry that supports its members, is guilty of religous prostitution, and drug trafficking.

"For a small fee, we can give you some temporary relief, and make you take your mind off the struggle, and for no additional charge we'll 'direct' you where you need to go, because with so many members we can't possibly help you along the way"

Placebo drugs of any kind are morally, spiritually, and therefore religously criminal.
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Originally posted by HeruStar:
I may have mislead my intentions... I'll just be frank.

If blacks are going to identify Christianity with oppression and african religous intolerance, then they need to show the same judgement towards Islamic faith. NOI are just as much religous pimps than any other Evangelical faith.

Any faith that uses members to support the ministry and not a ministry that supports its members, is guilty of religous prostitution, and drug trafficking.

"For a small fee, we can give you some temporary relief, and make you take your mind off the struggle, and for no additional charge we'll 'direct' you where you need to go, because with so many members we can't possibly help you along the way"

Placebo drugs of any kind are morally, spiritually, and therefore religously criminal.


The difference is with the NOI you get something for your money.
Muslim is a religion, Islam is a sector, Arab is a culture. Black is a race which used to be a glorified heritage with it's own religion, within it's own sector, with it's own culture.

and you're not a whore unless you're an evangelist minion running the same half-cocked nonsense, your uninformed minister may be running.
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Originally posted by HeruStar:
Muslim is a religion, Islam is a sector, Arab is a culture. Black is a race which used to be a glorified heritage with it's own religion, within it's own sector, with it's own culture.

and you're not a whore unless you're an evangelist minion running the same half-cocked nonsense, your uninformed minister may be running.


Hmmmmmm..... I see...

Thanks for the clarification of your views....



V
1. Muslim is a sect of Islam. (i.e. the NOI call themselves black muslims)

2. Islam is a branch off from the Ancient Egyptian Religions as is Christianity and Judaism. Yes, Islam is a type of philosophical principle.

3. Arab is a culture.

4. Black is a culture.

We are "all" in the same human race.

Yes, Islam is a religion of oppression--just like Christianity.

The proof is gathered in the Arab Slave trade and continues today where Arabs/Islamics still practice slavery over blacks in the Sudan.
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Islam is a principle.....

Muslim is a person who follows the principle...

The way it has been accepted in society is to equate the term with its various expressions in culture throughout history.... and typically, only the negatives...

thus, why it is associated with oppression and little is understood regarding the reasons why those of us who consider ourselves Muslim see absolutely no correlation to the oppressive acts done in its name...

the term is only studied historically and not philosophically..... and thus the disconnect of those who accept the term and reject the people who promote it and those who accept only this version....

same as acts of pedophilia and murder done in the name of Ra... said with a hetep at the end....

most believers understand the difference... it is those who promote their own path that tear down the paths of others to uplift and justify their existence...

I will speak no more in this thread.... because I do not like arguing with people who've made up their mind.... it's futile and a non-productive waste of time.... I've only spoken to clarify.... and this is generally the only time I speak on matters where people vent their frustrations against Islam..... just to clarify a point or two every now and then.....

and those with whom it resonates... so be it... and those with whom it does not....

May Allah bless you...


Peace,
Virtue
This thread was made mainly for the Malcolm X generation. I like to call myself a Christian. So again, I state the purpose of this thread. You can not change thousands of years of oppression; Muslims and Christians have oppressed blacks. It is morally and intellectually irresponsible for a Muslim to mock or ridicule a black that follows Christianity when MUSLIMS THREW THE DEATH STRIKE to black civilization, and black culture.

It's funny how muslims are the one's screaming "WHITE-washed", when they "MUSLIM/ARAB-washed" a thriving civilization.

So if I choose Christianity, another religion that was mildly oppressive in Africa, don't come at me with no half-cocked retarded theories of me worshipping a 'white porcelain god'. Don't pretend as if Muslims had black cultivation as their original agenda. Maybe, just maybe today they might care about blacks a little. But that's a totally different agenda from where it started. Arab's were not screaming out 'BLACK POWER'. Blacks were!

So if their agenda has changed, then the name should change.
As a matter of fact, you still don't here any
Arab's screaming BLACK POWER today. This is another case of blacks assimilating to and claiming a culture/existence that was not their own. Christianity is guilty of the same thing except we don't pretend like Christianity is solely about black upliftment. We know that God really doesn't have a racial preference.

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