What's up with the new avatar? Why did you choose it and what is the signifigance of it?

Perhaps you've done so in another thread and if so and you're repeating, I apologize. I've been really busy lately and haven't been able to read much. Smile

But I'd be very interested to know the statement being made by it. Thanks! Smile
 
 BLACK by NATURE, PROUD by CHOICE.
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I actually "stole it" from another chat board. A particular member was making use of it as Noah the African could tell you.

I first saw the picture and was touched by the POWER and the SYMBOLISM of it.

It is a picture of (I assume) an innocent African child who is hungry and unprotected.

The vulture in the background doesn't care about his race, global politics or any violation of the human rights of this child.

To the hungry vulture this HUMAN is nothing but a PIECE OF MEAT that might fill his stomach if the child is not rescued by someone who is able to provide a defense against this predator.

In the back of my mind I think that the AFRICAN-AMERICAN who was stolen away in the past is the only one who can provide for a functional defense for this little boy and millions like him who still live in Africa.

The vulture represents DEATH
The little boy represents the FUTURE of our people
The act of the vulture devouring little boy for death's own desire to survive is self explanitory.


We as African-Americans are so abstracted from their condition that it is unlikely that we will render aid in any meaningful way.


I chose this picture because it touched me deeply.
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I take offense to CF hyjacking that photo. He never said jack about the photo in the other forum. When I touched upon how it impacted me and another REAL brother shared how it affected him, CF did not say Jack slit. The other brother and myself resolved how we NEED to do more and I talked about what I had and am engaged in upon the contenent. Again, he did not say jack slit during that time. Now he comes on here talking about how powerful it has impacted him. Thats BS I do believe. He knew how powerful it impacted me and another brother.....so he decided to hijack the photo so that people on this forum can think that he really cares about black people. I believe he is just using the photo....to try to make some PERSONAL in roads or connections on this forum. I cannot read his mind and I have no proof of what I am saying....but it is my gut intuition that what I say is the truth. If this photo had such a profound affect upon him.....he would have told you step HE PERSONAL was going to do or had done....but NO...his azz only wants to make a political statement. He could not wait until someone asked him about the avatar.....and EBONY you took the bait.

I don't like people playing around with slit like this....If this was person to person I would seriously F'ck somebody up. I love children and the thought of somebody politicizing this really pisses me off.
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
What he didn't tell you is that CON FEED IS the damned vulture...

CON FEED=VULTURE


LOLZ!!

The Vulture is the White Establishment, CON-Feed is the little parasite hanging on the vulture waiting to eat the leftovers.
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
I take offense to CF hyjacking that photo. He never said jack about the photo in the other forum. When I touched upon how it impacted me and another REAL brother shared how it affected him, CF did not say Jack slit. The other brother and myself resolved how we NEED to do more and I talked about what I had and am engaged in upon the contenent. Again, he did not say jack slit during that time. Now he comes on here talking about how powerful it has impacted him. Thats BS I do believe. He knew how powerful it impacted me and another brother.....so he decided to hijack the photo so that people on this forum can think that he really cares about black people. I believe he is just using the photo....to try to make some PERSONAL in roads or connections on this forum. I cannot read his mind and I have no proof of what I am saying....but it is my gut intuition that what I say is the truth. If this photo had such a profound affect upon him.....he would have told you step HE PERSONAL was going to do or had done....but NO...his azz only wants to make a political statement. He could not wait until someone asked him about the avatar.....and EBONY you took the bait.

I don't like people playing around with slit like this....If this was person to person I would seriously F'ck somebody up. I love children and the thought of somebody politicizing this really pisses me off.


I can't blame you and I'm with you 100%.
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CON-Feed is the little parasite hanging on the vulture waiting to eat the leftovers.
More like the micro-organism hanging and licking on the ass-chips...
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
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CON-Feed is the little parasite hanging on the vulture waiting to eat the leftovers.
More like the micro-organism hanging and licking on the ass-chips...


lol
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He never said jack about the photo in the other forum. When I touched upon how it impacted me and another REAL brother shared how it affected him, CF did not say Jack slit.



At the end of this post I would like for Noah to cut and paste the following appology as I have PROVED HIM WRONG. I POSTED A REPY to the picture BEFORE HE DID.

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I Noah want to show that I am not only a man but a "man of character" and say that I have accused Constructive Feedback/Cultural Strategist of not replying to the picture when I did not do enough research that would have shown me that he indeed did respond to the original person who introduced the picture to the members of the chat board.
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Just to set things up a poster named "Big Ree" pubished the photo as his tag line photo.

Here is my EVIDENCE of my response and it's timing:

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Re: Jamie Fox Battles NBC on "All Black Cast&
« Reply #5 on: Jan 24th, 2006, 5:05am »

POWERFUL AND SYMBOLIC IMAGE



The people of New Orleans have little to worry about in comparison.


Noah made his comments in a different thread. I GUESS that since he chose to comment in that particular thread that I was obliged to follow suit and comment over there rather than in the thread that I posted in. I gotcha dude.

A full 7 hours later NOAH responds IN ANOTHER MESSAGE THREAD WITH:

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Re: No need to ask who'll love this Great News
« Reply #8 on: Jan 24th, 2006, 12:14pm »

Big Ree.....The photo in your signature is one of the most painful sights I have seen in a long time. I could hardly stand to look at it. It angers me more than I could ever articulate. It does not anger me that you show the picture....it angers me that such a reality exists when we in the west throw away tons of food a day. I cannot stand to see children suffering.

The number one inhibitor of freedom and the number one dictator on this planet is POVERTY. This nation, in its quest to spread freedom and ride the world of dictators is ignoring the primary dictator and oppressor in the word today in ignoring poverty and the hungry.

That picture just makes every other dang thing being discussed here seem totally irrelevant.



Noah FAILED to do rearch prior to making his claim against me.

He dangled out some rancid meat for the ATTACK LEMMINGS to chew upon and you all BIT. Now your stomachs are hurting and you may die from being SUCKERS.
I still think you're the damned vulture, Knee-Grow. At the very least, you ignorantly support the system that is the vulture. And I said that several days ago - before Noah's post
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

The people of New Orleans have little to worry about in comparison.


Tell that to the families of the 1,327 people who lost their lives.
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Originally posted by MBM:

Tell that to the families of the 1,327 people who lost their lives.

MBM:

I have DETAILED to you the great suffering that is taking place as a result of the Tsunami in Indonesia and the Earthquake in Pakistan.

While you, being American-centric in your concerns can only talk able the grieving Americans who did lose around 1,000 individuals in their natural disaster with the rest of the evacuees being put up in hotels, houses and trailers at government expense..........
the little boy in the photo has no such protection. The people in Pakistan are going to see a significant increase in deaths due to exposure in the winter-time. A canvas tent is no match for the sub-zero temperatures of the mountain regions of Pakistan. Maybe Osama Bin Ladin is close by to offer assistance. The people in Indonesia, more than a year after their natural disaster still have not found permanent housing or a return to normalcy. The have no government that can AFFORD to debate wheter their houses should be rebuilt by first spending billions of dollars on bariers to the powerful water. They live by hand to mouth. "It is what it is".

I maintain that on a relative basis few people in America, regardless of their individual situation have as much to bear as people who live in impoverished countries that lack the infrastructure to provide for their basic needs.

Despite the rhetoric - CAPITALISM did not cause this. The lack of a market that matches needs with production is the issue.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

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Originally posted by MBM:

Tell that to the families of the 1,327 people who lost their lives.

MBM:

I have DETAILED to you the great suffering that is taking place as a result of the Tsunami in Indonesia and the Earthquake in Pakistan.

While you, being American-centric in your concerns can only talk able the grieving Americans who did lose around 1,000 individuals in their natural disaster with the rest of the evacuees being put up in hotels, houses and trailers at government expense..........
the little boy in the photo has no such protection. The people in Pakistan are going to see a significant increase in deaths due to exposure in the winter-time. A canvas tent is no match for the sub-zero temperatures of the mountain regions of Pakistan. Maybe Osama Bin Ladin is close by to offer assistance. The people in Indonesia, more than a year after their natural disaster still have not found permanent housing or a return to normalcy. The have no government that can AFFORD to debate wheter their houses should be rebuilt by first spending billions of dollars on bariers to the powerful water. They live by hand to mouth. "It is what it is".

I maintain that on a relative basis few people in America, regardless of their individual situation have as much to bear as people who live in impoverished countries that lack the infrastructure to provide for their basic needs.

Despite the rhetoric - CAPITALISM did not cause this. The lack of a market that matches needs with production is the issue.


Yada yada yada - tell that to the families of the 1,327 people who died as a result of the storm! You can wax poetic all night long about relative this and relative that. That means nothing to folks who lost loved ones. What happened anywhere else in the world is absolutely immaterial to their loss. Is that too difficult for you to grasp? Confused
MBM, we all know that it's not a matter of CON-Feed grasping points you or anyone else makes. His thing is always to disparage and denigrate. Period.

When it came to the pain of those who lost loved ones at the hands of Tookie Williams either directly or by gang violence, CON-Feed feigned as if he had a firm "grasp" and for damn sure wasn't talkin' no relative to this or that shit.
That picture was huge back in the day, during one of the big famines in east Africa back in he 80s or early 90s, either in the Sudan or Somalia, but not in Ethiopia. The story behind the photo is more tragic: this little girl , CF (shows how much of a damn YOU give!) was heading toward relief when she gave out. I don't remember whether the photographer helped her or not (my bet is not), or what happened to her parents. But it was a photo that generated a lot of response back then... for some reason, I remember it as a moving picture. I think the publication I saw it in must have published a sequence of photos showing her walking and then gradually giving out. Or maybe it was just so disturbing, I just remember it wrongly as such...

But I think that anybody who uses it to compare with someone else's misfortune, or make any kind of political statement, is morally bankrupt and totally devoid of any thread of character or human dignity. That was somebody's baby. She had a name, and would be a teenager right now if she didn't die. But for all we know, she died, and her corpse was eaten by a vulture.

Apparently, a new vulture is now picking at her memory, degrading and debasing her even further. I've intentionally ignored this avatar since you put it up, CF. Lucky for you, you don't care what people think about you...
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I've intentionally ignored this avatar since you put it up, CF.
And I don't know why others could not. It's as if they don't know or refuse to believe that CON-Feed is RHETORIC MAN - i.e. the definition of someone who is so "morally bankrupt and totally devoid of any thread of human dignity" that nothing is sacred and everything is to be exploited as feebly as he does.
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But it was a photo that generated a lot of response back then, and I think that anybody who uses it to compare with someone else's misfortune, or make any kind of political statement, is morally bankrupt and totally devoid of any thread of character or human dignity.[quote]

Vox - You live off of COMPARISONS on a daily basis. It is your reference to these GAPS that exist in America that keeps you going.

To you misery is not "relative" until it is one of YOUR "relatives" that is suffering.

Somehow your human compassion only extends to the man made border of America - a land that you will quickly say was STOLEN and the founding based upon ungodly acts. How you have assimilated.

I stand by my claim. You have nothing to stand on.


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I've intentionally ignored this avatar since you put it up, CF. Lucky for you, you don't care what people think about you...


Great. I return the favor of ignoring YOU on a constant basis. Now we are even.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
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He never said jack about the photo in the other forum. When I touched upon how it impacted me and another REAL brother shared how it affected him, CF did not say Jack slit.



At the end of this post I would like for Noah to cut and paste the following appology as I have PROVED HIM WRONG. I POSTED A REPY to the picture BEFORE HE DID.

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I Noah want to show that I am not only a man but a "man of character" and say that I have accused Constructive Feedback/Cultural Strategist of not replying to the picture when I did not do enough research that would have shown me that he indeed did respond to the original person who introduced the picture to the members of the chat board.
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Just to set things up a poster named "Big Ree" pubished the photo as his tag line photo.

Here is my EVIDENCE of my response and it's timing:

quote:

Re: Jamie Fox Battles NBC on "All Black Cast&
« Reply #5 on: Jan 24th, 2006, 5:05am »

POWERFUL AND SYMBOLIC IMAGE



The people of New Orleans have little to worry about in comparison.


Noah made his comments in a different thread. I GUESS that since he chose to comment in that particular thread that I was obliged to follow suit and comment over there rather than in the thread that I posted in. I gotcha dude.

A full 7 hours later NOAH responds IN ANOTHER MESSAGE THREAD WITH:

quote:

Re: No need to ask who'll love this Great News
« Reply #8 on: Jan 24th, 2006, 12:14pm »

Big Ree.....The photo in your signature is one of the most painful sights I have seen in a long time. I could hardly stand to look at it. It angers me more than I could ever articulate. It does not anger me that you show the picture....it angers me that such a reality exists when we in the west throw away tons of food a day. I cannot stand to see children suffering.

The number one inhibitor of freedom and the number one dictator on this planet is POVERTY. This nation, in its quest to spread freedom and ride the world of dictators is ignoring the primary dictator and oppressor in the word today in ignoring poverty and the hungry.

That picture just makes every other dang thing being discussed here seem totally irrelevant.



Noah FAILED to do rearch prior to making his claim against me.

He dangled out some rancid meat for the ATTACK LEMMINGS to chew upon and you all BIT. Now your stomachs are hurting and you may die from being SUCKERS.



I am not apologizing for jax slit! I would if you posted something that warrents an apology. You have posted likely close to a millions words in your many debates on other and this forum combined. You have taken tht time to articulate in detail how you feel about black leadership...how you feel about liberalism....how you defend conservatism and bush in essays that have hurdreds of words. Yet....all you can say in regards to that photo is to say it is a powerful image? How come you could not articulate the details of how powerful this picture WAS to you to the same degree you communicate to everyone how powerful conservatism or your hate for liberalism and black leadership is? You are just a phoney. If anything....that comment you made hurts your case more because it shows evidence of politics by juxtaposing the suffering of that child against the suffering of people in New Orleans....as if the people of NO should be thankful that the lost their lively hood and some even their lives. You are a sorry azz piece of work.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

Vox - You live off of COMPARISONS on a daily basis. It is your reference to these GAPS that exist in America that keeps you going.

To you misery is not "relative" until it is one of YOUR "relatives" that is suffering.

Somehow your human compassion only extends to the man made border of America - a land that you will quickly say was STOLEN and the founding based upon ungodly acts. How you have assimilated.



You don't know a single thing about me, you mother fucking idiot. And at this point, all you NEED to know is that you can [edited to say] eff off. [end of edit] You bitch ass piece of shit.

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I return the favor of ignoring YOU on a constant basis. Now we are even.


Whatever! It's not like you could ever effectively rebut me--- ever, not even once! So you're doing yourself a favor by making it official!
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Originally posted by Vox:
That picture was huge back in the day, during one of the big famines in east Africa back in he 80s or early 90s, either in the Sudan or Somalia, but not in Ethiopia. The story behind the photo is more tragic: this little girl , CF (shows how much of a damn YOU give!) was heading toward relief when she gave out. I don't remember whether the photographer helped her or not (my bet is not), or what happened to her parents. But it was a photo that generated a lot of response back then... for some reason, I remember it as a moving picture. I think the publication I saw it in must have published a sequence of photos showing her walking and then gradually giving out. Or maybe it was just so disturbing, I just remember it wrongly as such...

But I think that anybody who uses it to compare with someone else's misfortune, or make any kind of political statement, is morally bankrupt and totally devoid of any thread of character or human dignity. That was somebody's baby. She had a name, and would be a teenager right now if she didn't die. But for all we know, she died, and her corpse was eaten by a vulture.

Apparently, a new vulture is now picking at her memory, degrading and debasing her even further. I've intentionally ignored this avatar since you put it up, CF. Lucky for you, you don't care what people think about you...



Vox, thanks for the background concerning this picture, it really touched me. I do agree with you, anyone that uses this photo to make a political statement,etc. takes the focus or interest away from HER...........and no matter what, its wrong.

CF, youre a grown man, you really should know better. We all care for everyone suffering.......everyones life, no matter whom, is precious. Lost of life, is never easy for anyone, anywhere.

I really dont read your posts/threads, because im not really into politics. You are, and thats cool........but politics, like everything else, has its place.

Lets not take our focus away from this baby, in the picture. Frown
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
What he didn't tell you is that CON FEED IS the damned vulture...

CON FEED=VULTURE



HAHA! You did'nt miss a beat. That was on time!!! tfro
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:I chose this picture because it touched me deeply.


If this picture had touched you deeply you never would have used it... Dick. td6
CF ... thank you for answering my question in such a thought out and detailed manner. Smile I had no knowledge of any other posting or talk about it ... and didn't realize I was "baiting" you by asking it. I was really just curious! Roll Eyes I won't go into what I think about your reasoning or your personal statement in putting it up, because that never really was the purpose. My philosophy has always been to each his own! Smile But, again, thanks for the explanation.

It definitely is a very moving picture.

Vox ... I really appreciate the history behind that picture. It makes it an even more intense photograph. I can only hope the photographer did the right thing. Frown If not, that would make him/her a lower animal than the vulture.

qty226 ... tfro

Let's not, indeed.
Anyone remember CON-Feed's last avatar? It was of some random idiots standing with picket signs that read "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "America is doomed" and other crap.

I wager that he was trying to say that those people represent the views of anyone who is not a Conservative or not a Bush/war-supporter.
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et....all you can say in regards to that photo is to say it is a powerful image?


So now I am supposed to FOLLOW YOUR LEAD and make a post because YOU made one?

I guess you MISSED my words above WHEN I WAS ASKED A DIRECT QUESTION ON THE PICTURE?

Noah - The bottom line is I am NEVER going to satisfy you. My goal is NOT to satisfy you. You believe that you have an exclusive lock on Blackness.

If only you could prove this IN THE STREETS where it counts. These pile on attacks by the lemmings on this board is hardly an viable assult on me.

You and others don't like my attacks on the principles that YOU stand for. You are not used to people challenging you to PROVE the worth of that which you stand for. If I have to receive knive cuts in the processes of aggitating you (see MBM's Fredrick Douglas quote) then it is the price that I have to pay to get those who are FUNDAMENTALISTS to change from POPULARITY to EFFECTIVENESS.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
If only you could prove this IN THE STREETS where it counts. These pile on attacks by the lemmings on this board is hardly an viable assult on me.

You and others don't like my attacks on the principles that YOU stand for. You are not used to people challenging you to PROVE the worth of that which you stand for.


CF, who is Tim Berners-Lee?

You come on here with bogus information, twisted logic, and dubious intentions....throwing that stuff around like it's going out of style..

You shouldn't be surprised when people "pile on" pointing out all the bullshit in your posts. No one individual could dig through all that crap on their own. You'd have to be a walking encyclopedia. A tax expert, an economics expert, etc etc.

COME CORRECT AND THEN MAYBE YOU'LL GET DIFFERENT TREATMENT

Go ahead..Say you don't care what we think of you... Then if that's really the case, your b*tch azz needs to stop complaining about how you get treated on these boards.
Your Azz sets up a "debate" and then proceeds to BS your way through.

Muthafucka, you're the FUNDAMENTALIST. You're the one who rigidly maintains your beliefs inspite of the evidence or arguments against it ...How many times have your so-called "facts" been debunked for ALL to see? Yet you keep coming back like a Jehovah's Witness spreading your bogus "Gospel"...
In fact, if I were in YOUR shoes, I'd be too embarrassed to come back the very next day and post this crap. You either have balls the size of bazookas (in which case I'd check my prostate if I were you) or a brain the size of a pea (in which case there's not a lot you can do).


I find it EXTREMELY interesting that the ONE time you're sure enough of your facts to insist on setting the record straight is in this little tiff with Noah... And this has NADA to do with your so-called Principles....
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You believe that you have an exclusive lock on Blackness.
(*whisper*__________ BULLSHIT!!! __________ *whisper*)


Dude, new material. That shit is so worn out.
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You and others don't like my attacks on the principles that YOU stand for. You are not used to people challenging you to PROVE the worth of that which you stand for.
There you go PROJECTING again.

Every challenge to the RHETORIC and paper-thin "principles" you espouse results in your PUNKING OUT!! Whether you're used to be challenged or not is not the issue. One thing is for sure, you never met the challenge. You prefer to RUN, wiggle, WEASEL, obfuscate, DIVE INTO SOME DIVERSIONARY Rat Hole... anything but actually met the challenges to your weak ass, bankrupt and bullshit ideas. So, yes. This is another STFU Moment for you.

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If I have to receive knive cuts in the processes of aggitating you... then it is the price that I have to pay to get those who are FUNDAMENTALISTS to change from POPULARITY to EFFECTIVENESS.
(*whisper*__________ BULLSHIT!!! __________ *whisper*)

FUCK THE RHETORIC, Con-Feed. Demonstrate the EFFECTIVENESS of what you espouse, show how evertything you stand for outstrips everything you attack and STOP YOUR SELF-HATRED!!!

Remember, you said:
"I have "power" and influence over myself and my family."

Now, tell us HOW EFFECTIVE your "agitation" could ever be when you have forwarded that the extent and degree of your "power" to CHANGE anything or anyone involves only those in your most direct and personal social circles and connections?

See...? Here's where your PUNK ASS gets caught up in your own RHETORIC, even your own unprovoked, trying to dance around ever demonstrating the EFFECTIVENESS of your views RHETORIC...

Not only did you pronounced that you ONLY had "power and influence" OVER YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY (which doesn't apply to Noah or anyone else here but you) but you was clear in saying:
"You can judge me on that which I have influence over in my domain."

Needless to say, you didn't (and can't) declare AA.org or any forum/message board (outside of your lonely ass blog) as "your domain."

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It is not my tone that they seek to change. IT IS MY THOUGHTS.
As noted, you like to PROJECT your thoughts, motives, intent, etc. onto others. You are the only one with the expressed and intended objective of "changing thoughts". Yours is nothing but another form of a FALSE CONSENSUS.

Because you know your feeble ass wishes you could "change" other people's thoughts and because you know how feeble and illogical your ideas are and how they can't withstand logical scrutiny, you try to project your petty motivations ontto others, those who expose your weak-ass reasoning and bankrupt rationales.

But you know I always have YOUR WOLF TICKETS well-in-hand.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

If I have to receive knive cuts in the processes of aggitating you...



Who the hell do you think you are? Some self-appointed martyr to the conservative cause with all the answers? Here's a news flash for you, CF. They don't need you and they don't want you. If you show-up, they'll ask you to use the service elevator.

I've been away for awhile and I ran headlong into your new avatar before I found this discussion.

At first sight, I thought it was a photo used in your post. It took several seconds to realize that it was your avatar.

The image is appalling and offensive, as appalling and offensive as your utilitarian compassion and mindless justification for its use.

Your sudden and convenient concern for the suffering in the world is touching, and I'm sure sincere. This from someone who defends the forty-year embargo of Cuba, the use of capital punishment, and dismisses the suffering in NO as a small concern.

The use of this image also illustrates your stupidity. The impact of the picture diminishes anything you have to say, as the reader's eyes are drawn to the image.

Add hypocrisy to the list of descriptive words used here to describe your character, or lack of. Black Viking worded it more succinctly.

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