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M. Lofton, like his momma, talks too much and has to be told to shut da' hell up! And, he won't help her pay the $5k she owes for her crimes. Pay her M. Lofton, help yo' momma!!



-- Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming --


Bush plotted to bomb Arab TV station Al Jazeera in friendly Qatar but was stopped by Tony Blair, who warned it would create more problems than they could handle.

A memo, No. 10, stamped "Top Secret" records the threat by Chimpy to use "military action" against al-Jazeera, which was accused by the US of fuelling the Iraq insurgency and denounced as "Osama bin Laden's mouthpiece."

The same media outlet had been hit by U.S. bombs in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Those instances were described as accidents / collateral damage.

But, were they?

Though the White House characterized the story as "outlandish", the British government has charged a civilian who leaked the contents of the memo under Britian's Official Secrets Act.

The confluence of events, and the cumulative effect of the responses to the leaked memo, creates the impression that there is absolute truth to the story, despite what this administration would have the public believe.

Racism systematically verifies itself anytime the slave

can only be free by imitating his master.

~ Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin ~
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Originally posted by Fine:
Wow, now this is terrorism & fascism at its supreme best!


More on the story from Counterpunch:
    ...the two men charged under the act [Britain's Officials Secrets Act], Leo O'Connor, 42, the former political researcher for the British ex-Member of Parliament Tony Clarke, and civil servant David Keogh, 49, a former cabinet official, are accused of improperly taking a British government document marked Top Secret, and making a "damaging" disclosure of its contents, the reported Bush remark about his designs on Al Jazeera. The second of those two articles of the Official Secrets Act, under which they are being prosecuted, is the one Lord Goldsmith used to silence the media.

    The secret five-page memo surfaced one Friday afternoon in early June last year in the pigeon-hole of MP Clarke's constituency office. It was instantly obvious this was not campaign literature but a reported private conversation between the two leaders when the US army was engaged in a ferocious, and much criticized, assault on the city of Falluja in Iraq.
Bush is a 30%....he's discredited himself....and that is YOUR community...not THE black community....my mom can walk through her all-black neighborhood at night.....and not get bothered...hell white people can walk through at night.....all black people are not just some nasty azz savage criminals.....so you need to speak about you and yours...something you know that may be f-ked up.....but do not place black people under YOUR umbrella....because many of us aren't shit like you and yours...........
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
Bush is a 30%....he's discredited himself....and that is YOUR community...not THE black community....my mom can walk through her all-black neighborhood at night.....and not get bothered...hell white people can walk through at night.....all black people are not just some nasty azz savage criminals.....so you need to speak about you and yours...something you know that may be f-ked up.....but do not place black people under YOUR umbrella....because many of us aren't shit like you and yours...........


quote:
Originally posted by Kevin41:
ha ha.....I do not worry about ever having to compete against you lofton...i'm out of your league...so there is no sense in me saying anything else...we all know the reality of things....that is why I got off my azz in life....so if I did hate everyone that I lived around...I could just get the f-k out and not shorten my life stewing in my hatred for self and those who look like me.......so think what you like....there are reasons for your behaviors and sordid thoughts...but if you think the shit you say is the sign of an intelligent, normal human being, then keep believing my man....it is you and not me....if you're happy...i'm standing there cheering for ya.......


If I were you, I'd stay within arms reach of any individual to whom I care for, and place plenty of distance between my allies, and any group of losers. Miserable losers love company, and winners want no part of such company!

*******************************

Too bad Black folks continue to jump on the wrong horse, namely the losing faction. President George Bush will go down in history as being a great President. Instead of using common sense, the typical Black middleclass allow their hatred for Caucasians to get the best of them.

In the end the winning Bush Administration, and/or Conservative Democrats won't owe the Black community a damn thing. By and large the typical Black middleclass follow losing liberal Democratic ideology even if it kills off the future posterity of the Black community!

....and the Hispanic community being the fastest growing ethnic group in the U.S., and unlike Black folks, Hispanics are not dominated or controlled by the Democratic Party, lock, stock, and barrel!

The Hispanic community is more balanced between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. The Hispanic community is also more private business oriented, which explains why there are a multitude of Hispanic Republicans, who have chosen to be aligned with the conservative business oriented Republican Party. The Republican Party unlike the Democratic Party, promotes the ideals of free enterprise, business development, and less government influence, social welfare, poverty programs, etc., etc.!

Way to go Black middleclass. Give yourselves a losers pat on the back. I'm so glad Michael Lofton is not in any regard a party to being in on any losing hand. Keep listening to the Empty Purnatas, Isomes, Kevin41s, Merv Dymally, Kevin Ross, no good Reverend Jesse Jackson, Kerosene Waters, etc., etc., and I'm willing to bet the only thing the Black community will meet and greet, and/or hope to look forward to is more poverty!


More likely the Black community is being ignored, kept in poverty, scorned, etc., namely because of the ignorance of the Black community itself!

This negro needs to name communities in particular...because that shit is an affront to black people who come from communities that are not necessarily wealthy....

".......but the people work hard to keep their schit up, crime down and educate the hell out of their kids.....maybe his community and he himself is fucked up....but I'm not carrying the burden of black ness because of his stupid azz and those around him who act likewise....self-hating negroes need to quit making those broad azz generalizations just because THEY comefrom something f-ked up or act that way themselves......my community back in texas is damn near utopic compared to most....but we still do not think we are better than anyone else or try to look down on others who are less fortunate or maybe do not even understand why they do the things they do......but it is funny hearing all this degrading schit come from those who are not squeaky clean or overacheivers themselves....I swear their disdain for black people is a feeble attempt to feel better about who they grew up to be..........." by Kevin41


"I've noticed that many conservative foolios have trouble shutting the hell up and frequently hang around out where no one likes them. The dislike is general, not in a personal sense, considering that they're so whacked out very few try to know them well. But their presence, particularly in cyber settings, and constant interjecting of stale dialogue is an immediate alert to discerning individuals that a mentally imbalanced person, possibly a convicted felon of unstable parents who also had to be incarcerated, is in the vicinity." by Isome, Seconded by Kevin, etc.

Can't be a winner if you accept, or hold as being valid the lies of losers, or individuals who accept the lies of losers as being factual. This being said......
...I see these individuals are still at it, meaning trying to discredit President George Bush, while the Black community goes down for the count, behind following foolishness!

This just in:

M. Lofton, like his momma, talks too much and has to be told to shut da' hell up! And, he won't help her pay the $5k she owes for her crimes. Pay her M. Lofton, help yo' momma!!

by Isome

Honor your father and your mother! How true, and the words and actions of an Isome or otherwise are rendered meaningless!

"Honor your father and your mother..." - This commandment is a development when compared to other laws of the Ancient East (for example, the Code of Hammurabi) that do not call for equal respect of the father and the mother."

Something must definitely be amiss with Black people, if the actions of an Isome are typical, a statement that would not only be disrespectful to my Mom, in the event that such a statement ever came out of my mouth, the statement as authored by Isome would also be a bold face lie!

This just adds to the arsenal of material that will be circulated to quash falsehoods, falsehoods that originate from Black people! Thank you Isome, for making my case stronger!

Can't be a winner if you accept, or hold as being valid the lies of losers, or individuals who accept the lies of losers as being factual. This being said......
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"Is it just me, or is Mikey becoming more and more unhinged by the day? " by Empty Purnata

Must be you, and the Black community who are beyond unhinged, a strong example of what not to do, a very poor example of what it means to be a success, etc., more so than any Michael Lofton, any conservative, President Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Larry Elder, and/or the Bush Administration!

The Black community...

vs. President George Bush and/or the Bush Administration!

...again Isome, Kevin41, or otherwise meet a criminal, and criminal meet Isome, Kevin41, and/or otherwise. I'm willing to bet everything I own, that Paul Richards will never be recognized as being a licenced practicing attorney, and/or elected representative again. You reap what you sow. If you expect to be recognized as an elected official, an attorney, preacher, teacher, university professor, and/or otherwise, you must act like one, on and off the clock. Criminal and/or unethical activity can work to your detriment whether the activity takes place during working hours, and/or during your private life.

"M. Lofton, like his momma, talks too much and has to be told to shut da' hell up! And, he won't help her pay the $5k she owes for her crimes. Pay her M. Lofton, help yo' momma!!" by Isome....

......In contrast, I'm willing to bet, Cresia Darcel Green-Davis, 52, guilty on all 14 counts, will definitely pay for her crimes, as opposed to the erroneous information as presented by Isome to infer that my Mom has in any regard proven or known to be criminal. What gives Isome the right to make a statement that the Courts have yet to establish, publish, document, prove, or otherwise where my Mom is a criminal? Liars will say anything.

....to which the court system itself has yet to establish, prove, publish, document and/or otherwise anything legitimate to brand my Dad, Mom, or any other of my immediate family members as being that criminal, felon, etc.

....Mind you, my Dad and Mom have both run for political office, namely because of the void of competent leadership that truly exists within the Black community.

It would be virtually impossible for anyone with any prior criminal history to on one hand be criminal, and/or the other hand run for political office. If nothing else your political opponents would use the slightest skeleton in any proven criminal, immoral, unethical activity, and/or other valid information against any candidate who seeks to hold elected office, to increase their chances of winning the election.

Illegal immigrants, criminals, felons, etc., have a much better chance of running for elected office in a New Orleans, and/or the State of Louisiana, which has a history of corrupt activity, than any Los Angeles County, and/or the State of California, where illegal campaigning activity, accepting bribes, etc., can result in criminal indictment.

It doesn't take much to discredit liars, and losers, because the individuals as mentioned have shown themselves to be liars and/or losers.

Whether or not, I'm an electrician or otherwise would have nothing to do with the fact that it is very evident who's truly being truthful! Any university professor who is also a habitual liar, and/or who chooses to use baseless or unfounded information as being informative is definitely not worth the honor attributed to what it means to be a teacher, be it on the preschool level, grade school level, high school level, and/or through any school of higher education!
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....too bad, neither an Empty Purnata, an Isome, a Kevin41, or otherwise can make erroneous mistatement of facts, a fact.

.....but on another note, a reality that surely fits....

...more likely the Black community's time is up, because the longer that misfits, traitors, liars, criminals, and/or sleazy individuals are praised, the shorter will be the life of the Black community. In the interest of my own survival, and/or others within my circle of relatives, close friends, etc., I have distanced myself from this reality, by disassociating my life from Black people who fit this description to the letter.

Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke is an idiot, a traitor, a university educated fool, unfit to hold elected office, a carpet-bagger, a liar, and many Black people who live in South Central Los Angeles have nicknamed her "Brentwood Burke". This being said that pdf file is nonsense, and the misguided words of an Isome, and the two bit pompous excuse for a university professor Kevin41 are also worthless.

Case #C895188 is also of public record, where the defendants being the Los Angeles Unified School District, through the Los Angeles County Counsel have admitted guilt to each every allegation as charged. Since when do the defendants, the defendants being the County of Los Angeles, have the right to demand payment from a plaintiff, when clearly the Los Angeles Unified School District has been proven to be criminal in every way in civil court, as documented by Los Angeles Superior Court case #C895188. The very day that I violate the law by speeding, Felony Hit and Run, or otherwise, to which the government would be the plaintiffs, and I the defendant, to which the government would be responsible for all payment of my criminal violations would be the day that this would be true, meaning it won't happen....

.......the exception being the Black community, where this would be a possibility because the Black middleclass although university educated, either don't know, or don't care as to what they are doing, in that perverted activity is honored, and/or praised by so-called university educated individuals from the Black communty. The Black middleclass who believe falsehoods are the problem, and not the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, and/or the Lofton family.

Plenty of proof exists to prove that Michael Jackson is a Child Molestor, Jesse Jackson is a thief, etc., etc., the Black community just happens to be an ignorant community to which misfits, traitors, and criminals are praised while individuals worthy of praise are kicked to the curb, thrown to the wolves, ignored, subjected to unwarranted character assassination, etc.

This being said, I have no reason to respond to any two bit lying pompous excuse for a university professor, be it in a Kevin41 or otherwise.

...and Internet Technology sure beats the "Hell" out of the old "Snail Mail" method of circulating information!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
....too bad, neither an Empty Purnata, an Isome, a Kevin41, or otherwise can make erroneous mistatement of facts, a fact.

.....but on another note, a reality that surely fits....

...more likely the Black community's time is up, because the longer that misfits, traitors, liars, criminals, and/or sleazy individuals are praised, the shorter will be the life of the Black community. In the interest of my own survival, and/or others within my circle of relatives, close friends, etc., I have distanced myself from this reality, by disassociating my life from Black people who fit this description to the letter.

Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke is an idiot, a traitor, a university educated fool, unfit to hold elected office, a carpet-bagger, a liar, and many Black people who live in South Central Los Angeles have nicknamed her "Brentwood Burke". This being said that pdf file is nonsense, and the misguided words of an Isome, and the two bit pompous excuse for a university professor Kevin41 are also worthless.

Case #C895188 is also of public record, where the defendants being the Los Angeles Unified School District, through the Los Angeles County Counsel have admitted guilt to each every allegation as charged. Since when do the defendants, the defendants being the County of Los Angeles, have the right to demand payment from a plaintiff, when clearly the Los Angeles Unified School District has been proven to be criminal in every way in civil court, as documented by Los Angeles Superior Court case #C895188. The very day that I violate the law by speeding, Felony Hit and Run, or otherwise, to which the government would be the plaintiffs, and I the defendant, to which the government would be responsible for all payment of my criminal violations would be the day that this would be true, meaning it won't happen....

.......the exception being the Black community, where this would be a possibility because the Black middleclass although university educated, either don't know, or don't care as to what they are doing, in that perverted activity is honored, and/or praised by so-called university educated individuals from the Black communty. The Black middleclass who believe falsehoods are the problem, and not the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, and/or the Lofton family.

Plenty of proof exists to prove that Michael Jackson is a Child Molestor, Jesse Jackson is a thief, etc., etc., the Black community just happens to be an ignorant community to which misfits, traitors, and criminals are praised while individuals worthy of praise are kicked to the curb, thrown to the wolves, ignored, subjected to unwarranted character assassination, etc.

This being said, I have no reason to respond to any two bit lying pompous excuse for a university professor, be it in a Kevin41 or otherwise.

...and Internet Technology sure beats the "Hell" out of the old "Snail Mail" method of circulating information!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton


Too bad neither a Michael Lofton nor a Constuctive Feedback can outline a conservative plan for the Black Community that will produce successful progress, when they have ineffective leaders who are hypocrites!
...more likely that Michael Lofton is an idiotic conservative!" by Empty Purnata

......still reaching, but coming up empty as it relates to proving your point.

now as for proving a point.....

"- Here's proof -" by Isome, another misguided soul

Public records:
  • Ms. Ester Lofton: ...IF I CANNOT HOLD MY SUPERVISOR ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RULE OF LAW, THIS DISINGENUOUS, UN-AMERICAN DEMAND FOR $5,000 AND ITS RULINGS AND FURTHERANCE STANDS.

  • SUP. MOLINA: MS. LOFTON, DO YOU WANT TO SUMMARIZE, PLEASE? YOUR TIME IS UP.

  • MS. LOFTON: OKAY. WELL, I URGE YOU TO USE YOUR POWER TO GIVE ME EXTRAORDINARY RELIEF AND I'D LIKE TO LEAVE COPIES OF THIS
    FOR YOU.
pp. 145-147 of the pdf file

...more likely the Black community's time is up, because the longer that misfits, traitors, liars, criminals, and/or sleazy individuals are praised, the shorter will be the life of the Black community. In the interest of my own survival, and/or others within my circle of relatives, close friends, etc., I have distanced myself from this reality, by disassociating my life from Black people who fit this description to the letter.

Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke is an idiot, a traitor, a university educated fool, unfit to hold elected office, a carpet-bagger, a liar, and many Black people who live in South Central Los Angeles have nicknamed her "Brentwood Burke". This being said that pdf file is nonsense, and the misguided words of an Isome, and the two bit pompous excuse for a university professor Kevin41 are also worthless.

Case #C895188 is also of public record, where the defendants being the Los Angeles Unified School District, through the Los Angeles County Counsel have admitted guilt to each every allegation as charged. Since when do the defendants, the defendants being the County of Los Angeles, have the right to demand payment from a plaintiff, when clearly the Los Angeles Unified School District has been proven to be criminal in every way in civil court, as documented by Los Angeles Superior Court case #C895188. The very day that I violate the law by speeding, Felony Hit and Run, or otherwise, to which the government would be the plaintiffs, and I the defendant, to which the government would be responsible for all payment of my criminal violations would be the day that this would be true, meaning it won't happen....

.......the exception being the Black community, where this would be a possibility because the Black middleclass although university educated, either don't know, or don't care as to what they are doing, in that perverted activity is honored, and/or praised by so-called university educated individuals from the Black communty. The Black middleclass who believe falsehoods are the problem, and not the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, and/or the Lofton family.

Plenty of proof exists to prove that Michael Jackson is a Child Molestor, Jesse Jackson is a thief, etc., etc., the Black community just happens to be an ignorant community to which misfits, traitors, and criminals are praised while individuals worthy of praise are kicked to the curb, thrown to the wolves, ignored, subjected to unwarranted character assassination, etc.

This being said, I have no reason to respond to any two bit lying pompous excuse for a university professor, be it in a Kevin41 or otherwise.

...and Internet Technology sure beats the "Hell" out of the old "Snail Mail" method of circulating information!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
...more likely that Michael Lofton is an idiotic conservative!" by Empty Purnata

......still reaching, but coming up empty as it relates to proving your point.

now as for proving a point.....

- Here's proof -

Public records:
  • Ms. Ester Lofton: ...IF I CANNOT HOLD MY SUPERVISOR ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RULE OF LAW, THIS DISINGENUOUS, UN-AMERICAN DEMAND FOR $5,000 AND ITS RULINGS AND FURTHERANCE STANDS.

  • SUP. MOLINA: MS. LOFTON, DO YOU WANT TO SUMMARIZE, PLEASE? YOUR TIME IS UP.

  • MS. LOFTON: OKAY. WELL, I URGE YOU TO USE YOUR POWER TO GIVE ME EXTRAORDINARY RELIEF AND I'D LIKE TO LEAVE COPIES OF THIS
    FOR YOU.
pp. 145-147 of the pdf file


...more likely the Black community's time is up, because the longer that misfits, traitors, liars, criminals, and/or sleazy individuals are praised, the shorter will be the life of the Black community. In the interest of my own survival, and/or others within my circle of relatives, close friends, etc., I have distanced myself from this reality, by disassociating my life from Black people who fit this description to the letter.

Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke is an idiot, a traitor, a university educated fool, unfit to hold elected office, a carpet-bagger, a liar, and many Black people who live in South Central Los Angeles have nicknamed her "Brentwood Burke". This being said that pdf file is nonsense, and the misguided words of an Isome, and the two bit pompous excuse for a university professor Kevin41 are also worthless.

Case #C895188 is also of public record, where the defendants being the Los Angeles Unified School District, through the Los Angeles County Counsel have admitted guilt to each every allegation as charged. Since when do the defendants, the defendants being the County of Los Angeles, have the right to demand payment from a plaintiff, when clearly the Los Angeles Unified School District has been proven to be criminal in every way in civil court, as documented by Los Angeles Superior Court case #C895188. The very day that I violate the law by speeding, Felony Hit and Run, or otherwise, to which the government would be the plaintiffs, and I the defendant, to which the government would be responsible for all payment of my criminal violations would be the day that this would be true, meaning it won't happen....

.......the exception being the Black community, where this would be a possibility because the Black middleclass although university educated, either don't know, or don't care as to what they are doing, in that perverted activity is honored, and/or praised by so-called university educated individuals from the Black communty. The Black middleclass who believe falsehoods are the problem, and not the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, and/or the Lofton family.

Plenty of proof exists to prove that Michael Jackson is a Child Molestor, Jesse Jackson is a thief, etc., etc., the Black community just happens to be an ignorant community to which misfits, traitors, and criminals are praised while individuals worthy of praise are kicked to the curb, thrown to the wolves, ignored, subjected to unwarranted character assassination, etc.

This being said, I have no reason to respond to any two bit lying pompous excuse for a university professor, be it in a Kevin41 or otherwise.

...and Internet Technology sure beats the "Hell" out of the old "Snail Mail" method of circulating information!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton[/QUOTE]

LOL, Michael Lofton is unleashing his Scorned B*tch Syndrome on me. He has a collective grudge against the Black community for not helping him and his out in their time of need. Well, that does not make up for the fact that he is a liar and is nothing more than a self-hater who places his grudge at NAACP on the Black Community at large!
LOL, Michael Lofton is unleashing his Scorned B*tch Syndrome on me. He has a collective grudge against the Black community for not helping him and his out in their time of need. Well, that does not make up for the fact that he is a liar and is nothing more than a self-hater who places his grudge at NAACP on the Black Community at large! by Empty Purnata

Can't back it up as usual....

..........but that is the value of being truthful, no matter how many times the truth is referenced it is still valid. Perhaps, the Empty Purnata's should be more truthful, so that they won't have to resort to foolishness to support their contentions.

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"- Here's proof -" by Isome, another misguided soul

Public records:
  • Ms. Ester Lofton: ...IF I CANNOT HOLD MY SUPERVISOR ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RULE OF LAW, THIS DISINGENUOUS, UN-AMERICAN DEMAND FOR $5,000 AND ITS RULINGS AND FURTHERANCE STANDS.

  • SUP. MOLINA: MS. LOFTON, DO YOU WANT TO SUMMARIZE, PLEASE? YOUR TIME IS UP.

  • MS. LOFTON: OKAY. WELL, I URGE YOU TO USE YOUR POWER TO GIVE ME EXTRAORDINARY RELIEF AND I'D LIKE TO LEAVE COPIES OF THIS
    FOR YOU.
pp. 145-147 of the pdf file" posted and introduced by Isome, another misguided and misinformed soul.

...more likely the Black community's time is up, because the longer that misfits, traitors, liars, criminals, and/or sleazy individuals are praised, the shorter will be the life of the Black community. In the interest of my own survival, and/or others within my circle of relatives, close friends, etc., I have distanced myself from this reality, by disassociating my life from Black people who fit this description to the letter.

Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke is an idiot, a traitor, a university educated fool, unfit to hold elected office, a carpet-bagger, a liar, and many Black people who live in South Central Los Angeles have nicknamed her "Brentwood Burke". This being said that pdf file is nonsense, and the misguided words of an Isome, and the two bit pompous excuse for a university professor Kevin41 are also worthless.

Case #C895188 is also of public record, where the defendants being the Los Angeles Unified School District, through the Los Angeles County Counsel have admitted guilt to each every allegation as charged. Since when do the defendants, the defendants being the County of Los Angeles, have the right to demand payment from a plaintiff, when clearly the Los Angeles Unified School District has been proven to be criminal in every way in civil court, as documented by Los Angeles Superior Court case #C895188. The very day that I violate the law by speeding, Felony Hit and Run, or otherwise, to which the government would be the plaintiffs, and I the defendant, to which the government would be responsible for all payment of my criminal violations would be the day that this would be true, meaning it won't happen....

.......the exception being the Black community, where this would be a possibility because the Black middleclass although university educated, either don't know, or don't care as to what they are doing, in that perverted activity is honored, and/or praised by so-called university educated individuals from the Black communty. The Black middleclass who believe falsehoods are the problem, and not the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, and/or the Lofton family.

Plenty of proof exists to prove that Michael Jackson is a Child Molestor, Jesse Jackson is a thief, etc., etc., the Black community just happens to be an ignorant community to which misfits, traitors, and criminals are praised while individuals worthy of praise are kicked to the curb, thrown to the wolves, ignored, subjected to unwarranted character assassination, etc.

This being said, I have no reason to respond to any two bit lying pompous excuse for a university professor, be it in a Kevin41 or otherwise.

...and Internet Technology sure beats the "Hell" out of the old "Snail Mail" method of circulating information!

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
A selection of comments received by Aljazeera.net in response to the article Memo:

Bush wanted Aljazeera bombed.

  • Let's wait till the memo surfaces. I am quite sure that there is something to the claims as Mirror has been gagged by the British government. Why the gag order if this story could be dismissed outright by publishing the document in question?
    Estonia

  • When I heard about this yesterday, I dismissed it as soon as I heard the words Daily Mirror. Now, though, they've repressed the story using the Official Secrets Act ... it's clearly true and it sends a shiver down my spine. If the US was the beacon of justice it presents itself as, Bush would resign over this.
    UK

  • Clearly this a complete load of rubbish. I do not exclude that some of the previous "accidents" may not have been accidental. However in this case there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that not even Bush would be stupid enough to go for you guys outside of a war zone and in a friendly country. As for being unbiased, you are no more or less biased than any other news organisation in reporting news from your own cultural perspective, as does the BBC ... but I certainly would not say you have no bias in your reports.
    UK

  • I am delighted to see that there is some press organisation that is not afraid to speak the truth about what this evil America government is doing to pervert freedom and truth.
    UK

  • Whether it is true or not, it is nothing new to me. Because this might have been the top agenda of Bush since Aljazeera started its unbiased coverage on the war. And considering the fact that the US army had already bombed the Baghdad office of Aljazeera martyring Tariq, such barbaric attacks are expected. However I stand by you Aljazeera especially during this time of crisis.
    India

  • If the story is fabricated why have the newspapers now been threatened with prosecution under the Official Secrets Act? As for lies and half truths, this is actually what Bush and Blair took us to war on, and they continue with lies and half truths now as they try to defend they indefensible.
    Switzerland

  • I think the gag order against Mirror has made a statement of its own: the memo is true! I would like to see the memo made public, and both UK and USA to come clean. I feel so sorry for the family of those media personnel who have been killed. Those "accidental deaths" are questionable in the light of this event.
    Australia
The Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com

Spinning victory down

By Mark Steyn, Published December 5, 2005

Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut Democrat, came out with a big statement on Iraq last week. Did you hear about it? Probably not. Everyone was still raving about his fellow Democrat, Pennsylvania Rep. Jack Murtha, whose carefully nuanced position on Iraq is: We're all doomed unless we pull out by next Tuesday. (I quote from memory.)
Also the U.S. Army is "broken," "worn out" and "living hand-to-mouth." If by military readers' reaction to his remarks is anything to go by, Mr. Murtha should be grateful they're still bogged down in Iraq and not in the congressional parking lot.
It's almost acceptable in polite society to disagree with Mr. Murtha, but only if you do so after a big 20-minute tongue bath about what "a fine man" he is (as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said) or what "a good man" he is (as Vice President Dick Cheney called him) or what "a fine man, a good man" he is (as President Bush phrased it). Nobody says that about Mr. Lieberman, especially those on his own side.
While the media were eager to promote Mr. Murtha as Earth's most incisively insightful military expert, this Joe Lieberman evidently is a nobody no one need pay any attention. Here's why. His big Iraq piece was headlined "Our troops must stay."
And who wants to hear that? Not the media and certainly not Mr. Lieberman's colleagues in the Defeaticrat Party. It must be awful lonely being Joe Lieberman in the Democratic Party these days. Every time he switches on the news there's John Kerry sonorously droning out his latest pretzel of a position.
Insofar as I understand it, Mr. Kerry is not calling for a firm 100 percent fixed date of withdrawal -- like, say, Feb. 4, 2 p.m.; meet at Baghdad bus station with two pieces of carry-on. Don't worry, it's not like flying coach on American Airlines, you could change the date without a surcharge. But Mr. Kerry drones we need to "set benchmarks" for the "transfer of authority."
Actually, the administration for two years has set dates for the return of sovereignty, for electing a national assembly, for approving a constitution, etc., and has met them all.
And all during those same two years, Mr. Kerry and his fellow Democrats have huffed that these dates were far too premature, the Iraqis aren't in a position to take over, hold an election, whatever. The Defeaticrats were against the benchmarks before they were for them.
These sad, hollow men may yet get their way: They may persuade the American people a remarkable victory in the Middle East is in fact a humiliating defeat. It would be an incredible achievement. Peter Worthington, Canadian columnist and veteran of World War II and Korea, likes to say there's no such thing as an unpopular won war. The Democrat-media alliance are determined to make Iraq an exception.
In 11 days, Iraqis will participate in the most open political contest in Middle East history. They're building the region's freest society and only truly federal system.
In three-quarters of the country, life has never been better. There's an economic boom in the Shi'ite south and a tourist boom in the Kurdish north, and, while the only thing going boom in the Sunni Triangle are the suicide bombers, there were fewer of those in November than in the previous seven months.
Meanwhile, Iraq's experiment in Arab liberty has had ripple effects beyond its borders, pushing the Syrians most of the way out of Lebanon, and in Syria itself significantly weakening Baby Assad's regime. Saad Eddin Ibrahim, who has spent years as a beleaguered democracy advocate in Egypt, told The Washington Post's Jim Hoagland the other day that, though he opposed the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq, he had to admit it had "unfrozen the Middle East, just as Napoleon's 1798 expedition did. Elections in Iraq force the theocrats and autocrats to put democracy on the agenda, even if only to fight against us. Look, neither Napoleon nor President Bush could impregnate the region with political change. But they were able to be the midwives."
The Egyptians get it, so do the Iraqis, Lebanese, Jordanians and Syrians. The choice is never between a risky action and the status quo -- i.e., leaving Saddam in power, United Nations sanctions, U.S. forces sitting on his borders.
The stability fetishists in the State Department and the European Union fail to understand there is no status quo: Things are always moving in some direction. And, if you leave a dictator and his psychotic sons in business, and his Oil-for-Food scam up and running, and his nuclear research and development in place, chances are they're moving in his direction.
Toppling Saddam was worthwhile in and of itself. Toppling Saddam and trying to "midwife" (in Mr. Ibrahim's word) a free society would be worth doing even if it failed. But, as it happens, I don't believe it will fail, not just because of Mr. Bush but because enough Iraqis -- Shi'ites, Kurds and even significant numbers of Sunnis -- are determined it won't fail.
And here's where the scale of the Bush gamble becomes clear. Islam and "the West" have a long history. And, without rehashing the last millennium and a half, the Muslim conquest of Europe and then the Crusades and the fall of Andalusia, if you take out a map of the world and look at the rise of the European empires you notice a curious thing: The imperial powers for the most part simply bypassed the Islamic world. They made Africa and South Asia and Latin America and everywhere else seats of European power, but they left the Middle East alone. And, even when they eventually got their hands on the region, after World War I, they made no serious attempt to reform the neighborhood. We live with the consequences of that today.
So President Bush has chosen to embark on a project every other great power of the last half-millennium has shrunk from: transformation of the Middle East. You can argue its merits, but once that is under way it is preposterous to suggest we need to have it all wrapped up by Jan. 24. The Defeaticrats' loss of proportion is unworthy of a serious political party in the world's only superpower. In next week's election, the Iraqi people will shame them yet again.

Mark Steyn is the senior contributing editor for Hollinger Inc. Publications, senior North American columnist for Britain's Telegraph Group, North American editor for the Spectator, and a nationally syndicated columnist.


© Mark Steyn, 2005

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The big black book of horrors

Rebecca Weisser, December 03, 2005

WITH the trial of Saddam Hussein under way, those in the God-damn-America camp find themselves uncomfortably wedged. Should they justify their opposition to the war by downplaying Saddam's crimes while sheeting home blame for the present turmoil to the US and its allies? Or do they opt for the defence of moral equivalence, conceding that Saddam was indeed a monster but those US presidents who once backed his regime, including George H.W. Bush, are the real monsters.

The best riposte to this warped analysis is a scholarly and sober 700-page volume recently published in France, of all places. Le Livre Noir de Saddam Hussein (The Black Book of Saddam Hussein) is a robust denunciation of Saddam's regime that does not fall into the trap of viewing everything in Iraq through a US-centric prism. The writers - Arabs, Americans, Germans, French and Iranian - have produced the most comprehensive work to date on the former Iraqi president's war crimes, assembling a mass of evidence that makes the anti-intervention arguments redundant.

"The first weapon of mass destruction was Saddam Hussein," writes Bernard Kouchner, who has been observing atrocities in Iraq since he led the first Medecins Sans Frontieres mission there in 1974. "Preserving the memory of the arbitrary arrests that Saddam's police conducted every morning, the horrible and humiliating torture, the organised rapes, the arbitrary executions and the prisons full of innocent people is not just a duty. Without that one cannot understand either what Saddam's dictatorship was or the urgent necessity to remove him."

The obsession of many journalists and commentators with the fruitless hunt for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons has meant much of the evidence of Saddam's atrocities in liberated Iraq has been under-reported. Sinje Caren Stoyke, a German archeologist and president of Archeologists for Human Rights, catalogues 288 mass graves, a list that is already out of date with the discovery of fresh sites every week.

"There is no secret about these mass graves," Stoyke writes. "Military convoys crossed towns, full of civilian prisoners, and returned empty. People living near execution sites heard the cries of men, women and children. They heard shots followed by silence."

Stoyke estimates one million people are missing in Iraq, presumed dead, leaving families with the dreadful task of finding and identifying the remains of their loved ones.

Abdullah Mohammed Hussein was a soldier fighting in the mountains when Iraqi troops took the Kurdish village of Sedar and deported three-quarters of the inhabitants, including his mother, his wife and their seven children. They were taken to a concentration camp at Topzawa and from there some were taken to an execution ground near the archeological site of Hatra, south of Mosul. The remains of 192 people have been found, 123 women and children and 69 men, among them Abdullah's wife and three of their children. There is no trace of his mother and the other four children. They were victims of the genocidal Anfal campaign, which sought to exterminate the Kurds.

Between February and September 1988, 100,000 to 180,000 Kurds died or disappeared. The bombing of the Kurdish village of Halabja with chemical weapons including mustard gas, tabun, sarin and VX on March 16, 1988, which killed 3000 to 5000 civilians, was the most publicised of these atrocities because it occurred near the Iranian border and Iranian troops were able to penetrate with the assistance of Kurds, filming and photographing the victims.

Halabja was not an isolated case however. Saddam used chemical weapons at least 60 times against Kurdish villages during Anfal.

And Kurds were not the only victims of Saddam, who ordered the arrest of numerous Shi'ites. Saadoun Kassab, an engineer who helped build Abu Ghraib in 1957, a prison that was designed to hold 4000 prisoners, was later to be held there for a year. He told Chris Kutschera, the book's editor: "When I was imprisoned in Abu Ghraib in 1985, there were 48,500 prisoners. I was imprisoned for eight months in a space 1mx1.5m, a box. I was sometimes in there for a fortnight without going outside. I wanted to be interrogated to get outside, to see daylight and human beings. All that because I said hello to Saad Saleh Jaber [son of a former Shi'ite prime minister from the time of the monarchy]. I saw people die."

Abdoul Hadi al-Hakim, a Shi'ite, was arrested with 90 members of his family on May 10, 1983, and was detained for eight years without being charged or tried. The youngest Hakim detained was only 14. His father and two brothers, together with 13 other relatives, were executed within the first weeks of detention. He and the rest were held in Abu Ghraib, 22 in a cell that measured 4mx6m. There was no running water and a hole in the corner served as a toilet. Recounting his detention in the book, Abdoul al-Hakim says: "The worst moments? It was all terrible, but the worst was the fear of being executed. Each time we heard the lock turn we were silent; it could be the moment to leave, for me, for another. I am angry with those who mix the crimes of the Americans with those of Saddam when they are not comparable."

The repression of the Shi'ites included the forced deportation of Iraqi Shi'ites into Iran, which started when the Baathists seized power. At least 40,000 were deported in a first wave in 1969-71 and a second wave of at least 60,000 were deported nine years later. Deportations continued throughout the 1980s. At the time of the fall of Saddam, 200,000 Iraqis were living in Iran, one-quarter Kurds and three-quarters Arab Shi'ites. Of these exiles, 50,000 were living in refugee camps in great poverty.

The extermination of the Marsh Arabs, an ancient population that had been living in the marshlands of Mesopotamia, took place between 1991 and 2003. Of a population of 400,000 Arabs living in the marshes of southern Iraq 30 years ago, there are today only 83,000; 11,000 fled to Baghdad and are living there in great poverty and 80,000 have fled to Iran. Thousands were murdered by Iraqi soldiers and the marshes were drained, bringing famine and illness to those that remained.

The brutal repression of the Shi'ite uprising after the 1991 Gulf War resulted in another 300,000 deaths, most of them civilians.

In Saddam's Iraq no one, not even the dictator's closest relatives and collaborators, was safe. Tariq Ali Saleh, a former Iraqi judge and the president of the Iraqi Jurists Association, writes that during the reign of the Baath party from 1968 to 2003, the security services arrested and imprisoned people without charging them, with no access to a lawyer or contact with their family. Everyone was targeted, including women and children. Torture was systematically used to secure confessions including beating, burning, ripping out finger nails, rape, electric shocks, acid baths and deprivation of sleep, food or water.

Then there were the victims of Saddam's three devastating wars. It is estimated that more than one million people in both countries died during the Iran-Iraq conflict which has been compared by Kutschera to World WarI with its trench warfare and colossal loss of human life. The enormous cost of the Iran-Iraq war inspired Saddam to invade Kuwait to seize its assets and Saddam's refusal to comply with the UN resolutions obliging him to disarm finally led to Iraq's invasion and his downfall.

For Kouchner, these murders need to be set out one by one, in all their horror, describing their nature and affirming that which is too often forgotten: Saddam was one of the worst tyrants in history and it was urgent to rid the Iraqi people of him.

Kouchner, who was France's health minister until he was picked by UN secretary-general Kofi Annan as his special representative for Kosovo, had hoped that a united international community might be able to bring down Saddam in the way that resolute action by the international community liberated that country. He felt bitterly ashamed when the French veto in the Security Council divided the international community and made it impossible to bring about a united front to bring down the dictator. "Was there a worse way of duping those who hoped for so much from us?" he writes.

It seems surprising that such a robust denunciation of Saddam should come from France and even more so that many of the contributors of this scholarly work would be considered to be left of centre.

While Australian anti-war protesters have lauded France's obdurate opposition to the war, Le Livre Noir de Saddam Hussein charts the sorry history of France's slavish support for Saddam, from Right and Left, for 30 years, a relationship that was fundamentally based on the trade of Iraqi oil for French missiles, fighter jets and nuclear technology.

French President Jacques Chirac's friendship with Saddam goes back to the '70s when he was prime minister under president Valery Giscard d'Estaing. When Saddam came to France, he spent a private weekend with Chirac in Provence, and on another visit Chirac went to the airport to meet his "personal friend" for whom he felt respect and affection.

The only rupture in this idyll was the invasion of Kuwait, when France joined the UN coalition to restore Kuwaiti sovereignty. But in the 15 years after the Iran-Iraq war, France worked energetically to lift sanctions and normalise relations with Iraq and with Saddam to restore a lucrative trading partner.

Determined to keep Saddam in power, the French never once denounced the dictator. Yet far from preventing war, the French veto in the Security Council facilitated it. In the absence of a UN resolution authorising force against Saddam, the only possibility was a US-led coalition.

The French, like all those who opposed the war, have implicitly or explicitly argued that although Saddam had his unsavoury side, he was no worse than the leaders in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria and Egypt, or farther afield in Zimbabwe, Burma, North Korea and China.

For the French and for many opponents of the war, the argument proffered was that without Saddam there would be chaos in Iraq. One French diplomat is cited as saying: "The opposition doesn't exist. The situation in Iraq won't change for a certain amount of time. If Saddam Hussein disappears, it's the regime that will be swept away and there will be federal anarchy."

People who took this view feel vindicated by every setback the new regime in Iraq confronts and the attacks of suicide bombers.

Far from glossing over the difficulties in rebuilding Iraq, the book documents the extent to which this was inevitable after 35 years of a brutal dictatorship in which Saddam ruthlessly eliminated civil structures, political opponents and those within his party he viewed as a threat.

The repressive system put in place by Saddam was impregnable from within. There was no democratic solution to Saddam's dictatorship.: no popular movement, no insurrection could have overthrown him, as the Kurds and Shi'ites found out through bloody experience.

"The American war was perhaps not a good solution for getting rid of the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein. But, as this book shows, after 35 years of a dictatorship of exceptional violence, which has destroyed Iraqi civil society and created millions of victims, there wasn't a good solution," Kutschera writes.

Saddam and seven co-defendants are charged with ordering the killing of more than 140 people from the mainly Shi'ite Muslim town of Dujail, north of Baghdad, after an attempt on Saddam's life there in 1982.

Rebecca Weisser is a former Australian diplomat and specialist in Francophone affairs.
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Bombing Al Jazeera -


    ...more devastating than the direct resistance US forces encountered in Falluja was the effect the story of the local defense of the city and the US killing of civilians was having on the broader Iraqi population. A handful of unembedded journalists, most prominently from Al Jazeera, were providing the world with independent, eyewitness accounts. Al Jazeera's camera crew was also uploading video of the devastation for all the world, including Iraqis, to see. Inspired by the defense of Falluja and outraged by the US onslaught, smaller uprisings broke out across Iraq, as members of the Iraqi police and army abandoned their posts, some joining the resistance.

    Faced with a public relations disaster, US officials did what they do best--they attacked the messenger. On April 11, with the unembedded reporters exposing the reality of the siege of Falluja, senior military spokesperson Mark Kimmitt declared, "The stations that are showing Americans intentionally killing women and children are not legitimate news sources. That is propaganda, and that is lies." A few days later, on April 15, Rumsfeld echoed those remarks calling Al Jazeera "vicious."

    It was the very next day, according to the Daily Mirror, that Bush told Blair of his plan. "He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere," a source told the Mirror. "Blair replied that would cause a big problem. There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do--and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."...
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This being said, I have no reason to respond to any two bit lying pompous excuse for a university professor, be it in a Kevin41 or otherwise.


From my last class Lofton....and now you wonder why it doesn't matter what a lying azz dysfunctional criminal on a work release prgram with the city thinks...of me...or in general..


**Kevin,

Here is my final exam paper. I have thoroughly enjoyed the class, you are a great instructor, I hope to enjoy another one of your classes in the future. If you are ever in NM, stop in...... Smile

**Mr. Harris,

Thank you for such an interesting class and all of your knowledge!
Ammy


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Thank You for asking / provoking many interesting DQ's & responses. I learned much in this class; and I took notice and appreciated the depth of the presentations you offered. Compared to the other instructors I've had, you are very good. If your time permits, there are some comments at the end of my evaluation form that I hope will have value as you assess LT "D."

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It has been a pleasure to learn from you.
I have found your lectures and power point presentations especially helpful. While the readings have been difficult for me to grasp at times, I do feel I have learned a great deal from this course. Thank you for the chance to learn from you.
Take care and best wishes in your future endeavors!
Mike

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Thanks again, Kevin, especially for your kind words about our program, and congratulations on an excellent Peer Review. We hope this record of your outstanding performance is now something you can take even greater pride in.



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Kevin is a very amiable and highly interactive facilitator. It is apparent that he has a passion for the course topics, as well as sharing his knowledge and experiences with his students. His weekly feedback was comprehensive, but it appeared by the notification to the class that Week Three feedback was one day late, as that notification was posted on Day 1 of Week 5.



**Well Lofton....that is from the school and the students....two bit? I do not even want to see your reviews or evaluations........what you say proves that you are a really ignorant person.....and I do not have to prove shit to you....but I want you see how your feeble cracks at my second profession stems from your hatred of black people and life in general...so go suck an egg.....a fertile one..... lol

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