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Has anyone visited the Brown Pride website? For a latino website black topics sure do take up most of their time. Topics like "I bet a nigger killed Yetunde Price" and "niggers didnt invent hip hop" always come up every day. I never participate in any of the discussions because I bet most of the people who post such garbage are just pathetic losers who couldnt say such things to my face so why sink to their level. If latinos have surpassed blacks as the largest minority why are they so threatened? If most of them have never been to Africa why all the hate for black Africans? I find this obssession very disturbing.
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I would like to know why this is a concern. Perhaps it's because I don't live in a area with a large Hispanic pop. But I still doubt that the thoughts of a few represent the whole.

It just kills me how Black people are so forgiving of white folks (no offense Ricardo... or are you "Hispanic"?) but have very thin skin with everyone else on the globe, it seems! (Even other "Africans"/African-Americans) upset

http://www.brownpride.com/

Yeah... Maverick,
You might want to provide a link to the issues in question. I guess I overlooked the FORUM list on the lower left side of the main page. But you're either just trying to stir something up (I won't say as usual) or expecting some kind of wild goose chase by not linking to the content that you are so upset about.

If I remember correctly, this is not the first time you've mentioned this... Are Racists Whites Our Only Enemies?? (or something like that)

I would like to know why we are looking for enemies per se esp. in terms of seeking out their websites. It seems like it has been the other way around here. I don't think anyone has any delusions from their personal experience or common human sense to think that everyone is in love with us.

So, as usual, I'm obliged to ask:
WHAT'S YOUR POINT??

[This message was edited by Nmaginate on September 18, 2003 at 07:35 AM.]
Who says blacks are forgiving of whites? I'm just suprised people who claim to experience racism would turn their anger to people who are in the same boat as them. This is a black site and we rarely concern ourselves with other minorities. Brown Pride is a latino site yet they always talk about blacks. Even when we talk about whites or hispanics no one on this board uses ignorant terms like spic or cracker. Brown Pride, where both blacks and hispanics act ignorant, is beginning to look like a Klan Site.
Nmaginate,

I'll make an analogy. When I man in a Rolls Royce insults your Toyota, you get mad, but I bet you don't get as mad as when somebody in a Toyota or better yet, a Saturn insults your car. Hispanics and Africans are in the same or worse situation than African Americans, yet they tend to insult us unmercifully. I am not excusing our actions, because we do the same thing.

P.S. I not saying that you shouldn't get boiling mad at whites when they insult us either, so don't start. Just trying to help people understand the psychology behind it.
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And it is not on the hip hop board where they mention hip hop as not being black. It is infact on their social issues board.

Maverick,

What don't you understand about citing a source?
And might you have mentioned the Social Issues Board and the actual thread(s) you are concerned with?

Frankly, I'm not concerned. I frankly don't get concerned about "KKK" sites per se either. So, again, WHAT'S YOUR POINT??
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I'm just suprised people who claim to experience racism would turn their anger to people who are in the same boat as them.

I recall that being an argument on the African and African-Americans relations thread(s) here. But you were all about African and African-Americans embracing each other in brotherhood despite animosity... right??

That doesn't seem to be your approach here.
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I'll make an analogy. When I man in a Rolls Royce insults your Toyota, you get mad, but I bet you don't get as mad as when somebody in a Toyota or better yet, a Saturn insults your car. Hispanics and Africans are in the same or worse situation than African Americans, yet they tend to insult us unmercifully. I am not excusing our actions, because we do the same thing.

Sorry...

But I see no use in that psychology. I think I would be more "forgiving" of the Saturn owner or rather more amused... than with the Rolls Royce guy. So, personally, I don't follow you nor do I think it is legitimate to say that since they are no "better" than I am, who are they to say anything.

I'm confused???
Are we implying that there is someone "better" than us then? Better off or whatever.

I don't deal with an inferiority/superiority complex or whatever exist in between. The Rolls Royce guy has to sit his a$$ down and sh!t just like everyone else. So I'm not taking any insult from him any less than an insult from anyone else.

I'm not beholden to the Colored Crabs In The White Man's Bucket thing you seem to be presenting. I don't mean to offend but that what it seems you are saying.

Understand the psychology perhaps...
Legitimize it. NEVER!
I did not ignore your PS.

Was that suppose to stop me or tell me I couldn't voice my opinion?? You voiced yours...
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Also, was I suppose to forget what you have already said on this type of issue??
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Call me an elitist, but I cannot fathom how Africans and Afro Latinos can constantly look us down upon. If you Africans are so superior to US blacks, why is Africa in such a mess?

If you can "understand the psychology" whereby you can have "elitist" ideas vs. Africans/Latinos then I suppose they too can rationalize that they are "superior" in their brand new (or used) Saturn SL perhaps in the same way you do but just from their perspective.

Africans for instance can say we African-Americans live in the richest country on that planet and we're on the bottom... or whatever. Either way I see no use in either psychology. It's petty by any standards. That's what Maverick more or less said about it with respect to Africans and African Americans. I say the same here.

[This message was edited by Nmaginate on September 18, 2003 at 09:38 AM.]
Nmag next time you see any of my posts please ignore them. You call me an instigator but you seem to be the one who tries to provoke others e.g Sarge. I agree with peace between blacks and latinos but what I want to understand is why are blacks the targets on Brown Pride when blacks as far as I know haven't oppressed hispanics. A lot of them claim to hate the way blacks act or speak but there has got to be more to it than that.
I feel ya Nmaginate,

I wouldn't give a f-k if i got along with anyone if i had to compromise my values and be a lackey-azz, inferior feeling negro who needs acceptance in order to be validated by others....and as so far as that brown pride bullschit....I don't want to banter like a biitch hiding behind a keyboard.....let them come to me personally and express themselves.....and we'll see how it goes....funny how people will say anything to brothers over the net but tiptoe real politely in person for the most part.....and also, they carefully pick which brothers they are going to try that BS with.......
Since I am the only other person who responded to this thread, you must me talking to me. I try to be civil to whoever I am conversating with, even if we don't agree. I said what I said on the other thread and i am done with it, because you misinterpreted what i said and did not try to understand what I was saying.

Usually, I will let it slide when people who talk a lot of shit hiding behind a computer screen, because any man can be brave when you don't have to look a man in the eye, but I am goint to take you up on your offer.

Kevin41, send me a private message so we can set up a time to meet face to face. If you really want to back up what you say, then it shouldn't be a problem for you to come on down to Virginia and talk about our differences. . . or ANY other method you choose. yeah, I haven't matured to the point where I can brush off insults, ever online.

You can see then how much of a coward I am then.
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and as so far as that brown pride bullschit....I don't want to banter like a biitch hiding behind a keyboard.....let them come to me personally and express themselves.....and we'll see how it goes....funny how people will say anything to brothers over the net but tiptoe real politely in person... - KEVIN 41

Whatzgoingon...

Are you having problems understanding what you read? What are you getting worked up about?

I think he's clearly talking about the Hispanics in question there.
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maverick:
...And Kevin 41 I'm not trying to start an arguement but I hope you arent calling me an inferior feeling negro.

Kevin41:
Not at all maverick....implying and insinuating is for cowards......I say what I have to say directly, therefore the individual i'm talking to does not get caught up in the interpretation.

What makes you feel like KEVIN called you a coward or anything else?

I would venture to say he's speaking in general. And from knowing him or rather what he post about along with his answer to Maverick including his statement that said that if he's talking to a certain individual he will do it DIRECTLY then I wonder how it is that you got offended. I mean... do you not read posts and the surrounding post for context or what?

I might see how you might have wondered who he was talking about when he first posted but his response to Maverick should squashed all that.

Anyway...
Think whatever you want to think... lol
I was speaking in general about the website and its posters, but if anyone wants to push up like that, i'm down......hell i'm from texas and i've lived in LA....I know how to navigate through or around the self-destructive behavior blacks portray...I am trying my damnest to be a highly educated intellectual black man in america and help uplift my people without compromising values or dignity...but i can put the books down and clearly demonstrate adaptive behavior. so whatzgoingon, I do not imply or insinuate, thats for cowards and those who do not know how to express themselves.....if I were talking to you, there would be no doubt in your mind that I was........... and as so far as the method, I let the other person dictate what my behavior needs to be....my words carry enough strength...so i do not have to resort to the methods those who have no emotional stability do. But as I said earlier, i can adapt.......Nmaginate, thanks for straightening that out..................
I do see your point Nmaginate, and I am not above admitting when I am wrong.

That is what tends to happen when you read into things with too much emotion. You tend to lose rationality and it is exactly what I accused others of doing.

I was already a little upset from the other thread, and I took what Kevin41 said as a veiled threat to me.

Kevin41, I apologize.
It's important to note that there are many different groups commonally referred to as "Hispanic". They include in part, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Columbians, El Salvadorians,
Cubans, Dominicans. Some of these groups believe it or not do not even wish to be called Hispanic!

They are not unified. Remember they hail from different parts of the world, with the common link of speaking Spanish. While it may be true tht they are now the largest minority within the US, they by no means have the same agenda.


I do believe and realize that many of them do not readily embrace "us" nor feel they have to.
They poisiton themselves as not being or identifying with Blacks. As Richard Pryor said about Mexicans in particular, "you guys get to pass for white". On my last job I was tight with a lady who was Puerto Rican. They in particular (in my experience) had lifestlyes and experiences that mirror our own.

Mexicans are much different.For instance, my community has a large Mexican population.Whenever there is a election, I have never, ever seen a poster in a Mexican business or home for a AA candidate. They only campaign for white candidates and of course, increasingly a Hispanic.

I think we AA's should concentrate on empowering, improving,educating ourselves and RAISING our children. We should perhaps keep our eye on what is happening on their and other communites (also learn Spanish!) but not be so consumed or distracted by what they are doing as to not take care of our own.

For instance the average Hispanic family's income is larger than that of a AA's. This in part is due to the fact that AA "households" are more likely than not to be a single female with kids. Even if the Mexican couple are only making $8 a hour it is still two incomes.

We in the AA community despite being heavily Christian seem to have no problem with all of this out of wedlock birth rates. We seem not to notice that this more often than not, means a young adult hood of struggle.Perhaps a entire life time. Asians on the other hand spend their 18-23 year lives attending college. At 25 they are not saddled with a felony conviction, or two three babies to feed and clothe.Why don't we caution and allow OUR kids to complete the progress of teenager to young adult not saddled with truly adult responsibilites of children? But,I digress.

I hate to say this but I don't think we can count on Hispanics to carry or include us as they advance THEIR platform based on their increased presence. They are too worried about promoting immigration and ESL programs.

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