Black Women Share Their Stories About White Feminists Excluding Them From The Feminist Movement

"I can’t address the injustices I’ve experienced as a woman without addressing the injustices I’ve experienced as a Black person."

 

Recently, we asked Black women of the BuzzFeed Community about their experiences with the feminist movement, and how they've felt excluded from it. Here's what they shared:

 

1. White feminism fails to recognize intersectionality.

"White feminism doesn’t recognize intersectionality and then asks why I as a Black woman do not take up arms in the feminist movement. Yes, I am a feminist. But when I walk into the room, I am confronted first with my being Black. So I’m sorry that making sure there are more women in leadership positions isn’t a leading priority for me. It IS important. No question. But what white feminism fails to realize is my sense of womanhood is intertwined with my Black identity. I can’t address the injustices I’ve experienced as a woman without addressing the injustices I’ve experienced as a Black person."

standingonshoulders

 
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2. Feminism fails to highlight racial disparities in relation to women's issues.

"I’m tired of only addressing white women’s issues in America without also highlighting how much worse it is if you're BIPOC on top of it. Black women are less likely to be believed when reporting sexual assault, and also less likely to come forward. These issues deserve to be shown in media and talked about too."

bonhoevi

 

3. Too often, a Black woman who advocates for herself gets labeled an "angry Black woman."

"Every time I have a professional disagreement with a white woman, I am confronted with weaponized white female tears and labeled an angry Black woman. These women all consider themselves feminists. In my opinion, feminism is just an extension of white supremacy and I am not down for it."

Elizabeth Garner

 

4. Black women are sidelined in movements they've started.

"Black women are continuously put to the side in whatever civil rights movement that they’re a part of, despite being the main supporters, storytellers, and innovators of those movements."

Katie Kennedy

 

5. The feminist movement values white women's tears over Black women's lives.

"Honestly, I've never been a part of any feminist movement because as a Black woman, I know that it doesn't support me. The face of the feminist movement is white. Men get more attention for being a part of it than Black women — the ones who are suffering the most. If feminism is for Black women as well, how come it takes a white woman crying about an issue for the world to notice, and not the Black women who have died from it? It's sad that a movement for women ignores the most vulnerable women."

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Charlotte Gomez / BuzzFeed
 

 

 
 

6. Getting Black women into senior professional positions is not a priority.

"It feels as though white women only want to lift up other white women in breaking through that glass ceiling. One time that sticks in my mind is in a previous job when a new male colleague made wildly inappropriate sexual comments toward me at a work event. I complained to my line manager and was told it would be sorted. Weeks and weeks later, I wondered what had happened, since I had not been contacted by HR and still saw him swanning around all smiley at everyone. Fast-forward to a year later at our work conference party, where he behaved inappropriately again to a couple of my white colleagues — he was shown the door that Monday morning. And yes, the management I complained to were all white women."

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7. The oppression white feminists face is likened to the oppression Black people face.

"I find it incredibly offensive when white feminists try to liken the oppression they face as women to the oppression Black people face. A good example is when James Corden made those jokes about Harvey Weinstein and Rose McGowan and McGowan immediately compared it to being called the n-wordNot only is it offensive to Black women who legitimately get called racial slurs, but you can tell that feminists like that are not actually interested in dismantling racism. They just use it as a comparison for convenience and shock value."

lalibella

 

8. The disparity in mental health is ignored.

"The disparity in mental health can be crushing. Black women are seen as strong, so their feelings and needs in terms of mental health are barely considered. It's something that seems like a compliment but really isn't. Yes, I am strong, but I have moments of weakness and hurting and vulnerability just like any other human. But when I show that, I know it makes others, white folk especially, feel uncomfortable. And having been in therapy with white therapists, I think that sometimes it seems like they give more pity than actual understanding and constructive plans of action. It's all kind of a mess."

alasiamilan

 

9. Healthcare disparities, specifically regarding childbirth, aren't addressed.

"There has yet to be an honest discussion as to why Black women die during childbirthIt is so incredibly hard to plan a future if you know that having kids means you might not live to watch them grow. When women’s health is brought up, it’s only birth control and abortions. While I feel strongly about a woman’s right to choose, WHAT ABOUT MY RIGHT TO LIVE?"

asyanyotaw

 
Charlotte Gomez / BuzzFeed
 
 

10. White feminism uses buzzwords like "diversity and inclusion."

"I cringe whenever I hear buzzwords like 'diversity and inclusion.' They're basically used so people can pat themselves on the back for being so 'woke.' How about inviting women of color to join your ranks? Or mentoring us so we can have the same opportunities as you? Or buying from a Black-owned business? In my observation, it's easier for a white feminists to post on Instagram about how they understand the struggles of Black women (no, you don't) instead of taking steps to economically help us get ahead."

icoleman

 

11. Some white feminists participate in virtue signaling but don't offer real support.

"I have seen a lot of virtue signaling from feminist friends on their timelines. You know, the ones who will share a video to show how they support the cause, but will remain silent when a mutual friend posts inflammatory content."

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12. Black women are boxed out of professional opportunities.

"I work in tech, and even though it's male dominated, white women tend to help each other with opportunities in the name of feminism. Meanwhile, women of color are usually excluded. Unless you're the token — then they bring you into their club."

icoleman

 

13. Feminists' "77 cents to the dollar" protest signs don't acknowledge Black women.

"The '77 cents to the dollar' protest signs always infuriate me. It’s 63 cents for us."

thescout

 
Charlotte Gomez / BuzzFeed
 
 

14. Victim advocacy circles take the position of "Believe all women."

"I feel frustrated by aspects of victim advocacy circles that push the message of 'Believe all women.' I love that concept, and I want to love that message completely, but it always makes me think of Emmett Till in such a way that I just can’t fully endorse it. The criminal justice system has been weaponized against my people for a very long time. The message of Black men preying upon white women is propaganda as old as our country. What does that mean for the idea of believing all women, and for me as a Black woman, and for the Black men I love? It’s hard for me to trust white feminists who are content to ignore the nuance of that conversation."

thescout

 

15. Feminism perpetuates Eurocentric beauty standards.

"The most immediate way I feel excluded is through white beauty standards. The feminist movement still largely embraces Eurocentric beauty, and only in queer spaces do I feel that something that’s not able-bodied and white is accepted. There is very little interest in understanding alternative beauty standards, and even when they are, they are performative and still center sexual desirability as the ultimate goal of beauty."

teairas

 

16. "Empowering" movies and TV shows are geared only to white women.

"I want to see more shows about Black women taking the world by storm, WITHOUT a white woman alongside them. I’ve seen the stories of white women fighting 'the man,' and now I want BIPOC to take the lead."

bonhoevi

 

17. Overall, Black women's existence and needs get erased within white feminism.

"At least twice I have been confronted by white women asking me if I am more concerned with women's issues or Black issues, and being asked, 'Do you identify as a Black person or a woman more?' And every time, I have to repeat that I am Black and a woman at all times. There is no choice. And when they have an expectation that I will choose to focus on their concerns of equal pay and not of white supremacy, I have to explain to them that my life, my mother's life, my father's, my nieces', and my nephews' lives are far more important and far more dire than helping them rise to equal footing with white men."

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Charlotte Gomez / BuzzFeed
 
 

18. Black women are labeled sexual objects.

"When Black women express their sexuality and/or wear tight clothing, they're automatically made out to be provocative. The subconscious idea that a Black woman’s body is simply for sex has yet to be addressed and is one of the root causes as to why we aren’t taken seriously in the workplace."

asyanyotaw

 

19. White feminism glorifies the suffragettes.

"I really hate every Election Day when people cover Susan B. Anthony’s grave with 'I Voted' stickers. The suffragettes were often openly racist and prioritized voting for white women over voting for any people of color. Each November, I’m completely frustrated by the lack of awareness that those stickers demonstrate."

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20. Some white feminists only care about causes that affect them personally.

"I felt excluded when I'd see my friends in their pink vagina hats head down to protest for women's rights a few years ago, but when I ask them to go to Black Lives Matter protests, they always have something else to do."

kaiyawahl

 

21. And lastly, white feminism has failed to amplify and support the voices of Black women.

"White privilege in feminism is all too real. Women in general are presented as hysterical and overly emotional. True. But when a white woman makes demands, she is supported, even if the demands are hard-earned. My demands as a Black woman are seen as threatening or aggressive. And never mind that I — and my white counterparts — could be calling attention to the same issues (unequal pay, career setbacks due to pregnancy, etc.). White women need to understand the role that race has in the women’s movement, and work to amplify BIPOC voices in the women’s movement and beyond."

standingonshoulders

 
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Will YOUNG people stop writing articles, OP-eds, books, essays, movies, stories, etc., about movements that happened before they were born, from just one meticulously picked cherry out of all the cherries on just one tree out of the hundreds of cherry trees in the orchard.

So, while much of what was written is essentially true, a lot did not happen exactly the way it is being implied, and it was far more complicated than what is asserted. 

PLEASE RESEARCH THE WOMEN'S RIGHTS [FEMINIST] MOVEMENT AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, AND, AFTER THE MARCHING AND PROTESTING AND FIGHTING STOPPED, then come back and rewrite your article.  

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Why dont black women start their own movement?? I always though feminists was another word for lesbian.

Why do black women want to join a white woman's anything?? Have you forgotten what country you're living in?? 

Keep messing with these women, you'll find one of your sons hanging from a tree. Their sliver lipped men are just waiting to kill us all. The more of them I see every day on my TV, the more they look like monkeys.

You're wearing all the white women hair looking ridiculous as hell. Poor Joy doesn't know what the hell to do with hers.

Start your own movement. All you do is give white women the vapors. All their men know how to do is choke the shit out of your sons, brothers, husbands, uncles, fathers, etc......... We're in a country of murderers.

 

 

 

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feminine

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the feminine gender.
a noun or other element in or marking that gender.
 
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During the Women's Rights Movement, male-chauvinist pigs, in an effort to make women turn away from the Women's Rights [Feminist] Movement, churned out an enormous amount of Propaganda to try and paint Liberated women and women who fought for women's rights, as either gay or unfeminine.
 
How do you get 'lesbian' out of "We want equal pay for equal work"? Ending the mythology that men "owned" their women/wives/girlfriends? Demanding an end to domestic violence against women inflicted by their men with impunity? Not discriminating against women in education, training or in the workplace when it came to wages, raises and promotions? Desiring for there to be more women in politics, in local and state government, in Congress, on the Supreme Court? Ending ignorance like blaming victims of rape for being raped? Ending discrimination against women in certain, or any professions normally predominately held by men.  Etc., etc., etc.
 
It actually worked on some women, but the vast majority of women fought back against that blanket stereotype they were trying to ferment to put wedges between the women in the Women's Rights Movement, and between women in general [i.e., DIVIDE AND CONQUER; DIVIDE AND RULE].
 
Luckily, women just stampeded over that false propaganda and continued on with their fight for equality and justice for women.
 
 
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  All I know is.... white women NEVER cared about Black women.  They used to kill our babies cuz of their nasty ass husband would rape us....sometimes right in front of them.  During the Women's Suffage….white whores used Frederick Douglas, Sojourn Truth and Harriet Tubman to promote their cause and promised that they would continue to help us get the right to vote....once them whores got what they wanted?  They dropped us like a hot potato.  All through the Reconstruction and Jim Crow they NEVER said a word....and participated in the cruelty and mistreatment of Black folks.  White feminists are just white women who don't have nothing to do.  They don't raise their kids....their nannies do [they replaced the Black mammy].  They live in plastic surgery.  And always complainin.  Fock them.  We don't need them.  Black women have always been change agents.....every since and before Ida B. Wells.....  White women are nothing but whores.  Look in their history,  Ha!  They don't have one other than lying on their backs waiting for a husband to take care of them.  And Affirmative Action?  They took that from our Black men.  So them heifers, like Michael Jackson say, don't give a fock about us.  Bottom line.  But!

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There's something wrong in the head of white people. Plain and simple. We built this country for their pale asses under the crack of the whip and they hate us. All that free pussy and dick, murdering of us and our children and they hate us. If anything, we should shoot every one that steps in our way or doesn't step in our way. They have backs too.

If anyone should HATE it should be US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Take those platinum blonde, straight horse tail wigs off your heads. There's no beauty in that shit!!!! Don't have any hair?? Go bald!!! Looks good on lots of black women.)

@Kocolicious posted:

  All I know is.... white women NEVER cared about Black women.  They used to kill our babies cuz of their nasty ass husband would rape us....sometimes right in front of them.  During the Women's Suffage….white whores used Frederick Douglas, Sojourn Truth and Harriet Tubman to promote their cause and promised that they would continue to help us get the right to vote....once them whores got what they wanted?  They dropped us like a hot potato.  All through the Reconstruction and Jim Crow they NEVER said a word....and participated in the cruelty and mistreatment of Black folks.  White feminists are just white women who don't have nothing to do.  They don't raise their kids....their nannies do [they replaced the Black mammy].  They live in plastic surgery.  And always complainin.  Fock them.  We don't need them.  Black women have always been change agents.....every since and before Ida B. Wells.....  White women are nothing but whores.  Look in their history,  Ha!  They don't have one other than lying on their backs waiting for a husband to take care of them.  And Affirmative Action?  They took that from our Black men.  So them heifers, like Michael Jackson say, don't give a fock about us.  Bottom line.  But!

 

I know that just as much racism inflicted upon Black people in this country was concocted and inflicted by White women as there was/is by White men.

However, during the Women's Right Movement, which coincided with the Civil Rights Movement, ALL women, or women of ALL races were fighting for the same things, regardless to or in spite of their race, class or racial perspective.  

And, yes, many White women, after gaining concessions in the workplace, education, wages and promotions, did soon forget that they [White women] were not the only women in the trenches for Women's Rights.

But, at the same time, there were many that did not forget, and stayed in those trenches helping non-White women who were being left behind.

Sometimes people just do the RIGHT thing, merely because it's the right thing to do, or merely because of the type of person they are, and sometimes those people are White.

The Women's Rights Movement was not unlike ALL 'movements'/revolutions, in that you had some women with an all-for-one, one-for-all perspective, some with an all for herself and what she could get out of it angle, some with an all for her race only thought process, and some with intentions on destroying the movement all together.  

 

@Sista Sunnubian...But, at the same time, there were many that did not forget, and stayed in those trenches helping non-White women who were being left behind.

    Im not talking about them my sista.  That's just 5%.  Im talking about the 95%.  Them  whores...who are now called the Karens of the white world....who made it absolutely difficult for Black people.  The whores who caused all that trouble for the Scottsboro boys and the Emmitt Tills of the world like that trick Amy Cooper. The whores who have their legs gapped in the men's locker room waiting for our athletes so that they can  snatch them away from Black culture,.  Not only athletes, but entertainers...any Black man who gonna make some money-those whores are right there.  And are even there for the Black radicals, like the Black Panthers-look back you'll see nothing but white girls with Afros surrounding them.  Ha!  They were only after the swinging pendulum....they didn't care about Black folks.  In my opinion?  I call it taking from the Black community.  I don't give a fock.  Fock them whores.  They know who they are.  They have done NOTHING for us.  Not a goddamn thang.  But!  

 

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The MAJESTIC Black Pendulum. How that sucker has put so many of our boys and men in the grave and in the Human Zoo. White women get tired of those god damned mushrooms. Look at a black man in tight pants and look at a white man in tight pants. With black men, there's not an ounce of doubt; with white men, they look like girls. No bounce to the ounce. That's why they're mad at our men. Our men have rhythm and they can p.o.u.n.d. The only rhythm white men have is when they're doing River Dance. Other than that, Oh Well!!!!!

That's why Orange Bongo's mad at the fabulous President Obama!!! President Obama is beauty. Trump's a shriveled Mushroom with fat everywhere there's not orange. Those circled white eyes are so owl-like. Only thing, the eyes look so much better on the owl. A MAJESTIC bird, he is.

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