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Originally posted by telltruth:
Yeah, but, it was Democrats who elected him to the Office of the Senate....and that is people.

You mean his constituants elected him to the Senate. So, the only thing I gather from that, is that his constituants are morons.

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The so-called Rev. Jesse Jackson and company never said a word about this former Klansman....but they did against Senator Trent Lot.

I don't care much for Jackson. But, he doesn't make policy, so I don't have to care much about him either.

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Clinton is a Democrat and he was elected by Democrats which are the people.

Okay.... so what?

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!932-1933 the Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt put forth the New Deal and under that was the Welfare system....that's when Blacks switched political parties from Republican to Democrats. Democrat President Lydon Johnson with his Great Society Program put the icing on the cake for the Black family.

Before you even begin to explain how the Black family was destroyed, you have to convince me that it has been destroyed at all. I become very frustrated with people who throw around sentences like "this or that is destroying the Black family" without quantifying it in any way. I happen to come from a strong Black family that has survived "The New Deal" and the "Great Society Program" (whatever negative effect you think they had).

BTW, what damage do you think these programs did to Black families? Please give an example, rather than spin more rhetoric.

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Sorry, but I am not into "political correctness" that was what they were called before the Democrats invented political correctness.

And why aren't you into political correctness? Is it beyond you to give anyone any respect at all?

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You mean to tell me you haven't heard those people equate their problems with Black Civil Rights.

Yes, I have... but I don't see any problem with it. The Civil Rights Movement was about civil rights. Historically, African Americans have been the most oppressed, but they are not the only oppressed. Oppression is oppression. It is to the betterment of everyone to promote civil justice and equality for everyone. I may never understand how there can be an African American alive today that does not understand that. White folks have an excuse for ingorance of this concept... we do not.

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The USA was attacked Sir....that was an act of war.

Oh, it's as simple as that is it? Well, I'm so glad you are here to straighten the whole thing out for me. Please continue...

Who attacked us?


Here is one of your greatest Black leftwing liberals William Raspberry writing in one of the greatest leftwing newspapers the Washington Post on the subject of Black families www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/24/AR2005072401115.html

Bill Cosby on the Black Family fatherhood.about.com/b/a/097326.htm

I have respect for those kinds of people as long as they don't step on my toes. I see that you feel that those kinds of people have a right to equate their struggle with the Black struggle-Ok if that is the way you feel....you are entitled to your own opinion and I have mine.

Why the USA is in the War Against Terror:

Oct 1983 Marine Barracks Beirut Lebanon 243 Killed

Dec 1988 Pan Am Flt 103 Lockerbie Scotland 244 Killed

Feb 1993 World Trade Center NYC 6 Killed

Jun 1996 Khobar Towers Saudia Arabia 19 Killed

Aug 1998 US Embassies Kenya/Tanzania 224 Killed

Oct 2000 USS Cole Yemen 17 Killed

Sep 2001 World Trade Center NYC 3000+ Killed
Pentagon Washington DC
United Airlines Flt 93

It would be aginst all nature for all the Negroes to be either at the bottom, top, or in between.... We will go where the internal drive carries us like everybody else. It is up to the individual-Zora Neale Hurston

telltruth
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Originally posted by telltruth:
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Originally posted by Black Viking:
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Originally posted by telltruth:
The USA was attacked Sir....that was an act of war.

Oh, it's as simple as that is it? Well, I'm so glad you are here to straighten the whole thing out for me. Please continue...

Who attacked us?



Why the USA is in the War Against Terror:

Oct 1983 Marine Barracks Beirut Lebanon 243 Killed

Dec 1988 Pan Am Flt 103 Lockerbie Scotland 244 Killed

Feb 1993 World Trade Center NYC 6 Killed

Jun 1996 Khobar Towers Saudia Arabia 19 Killed

Aug 1998 US Embassies Kenya/Tanzania 224 Killed

Oct 2000 USS Cole Yemen 17 Killed

Sep 2001 World Trade Center NYC 3000+ Killed
Pentagon Washington DC
United Airlines Flt 93

telltruth

Yes... I'm quite familiar with the reasons for the U.S. being in the "War of Terror".

Now, please answer my question... Who attacked us?
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You can call it tripe if want to....but, what I gave you is documented historical facts-And like I said it doesn't matter to me whether you believe it or not....you can get the facts right on your computer-just google it!


Okay, yes, it is fact that the democratic party of 50 years ago is more akin to the Republican party of today. SO WHAT? We are living in the today.

People change, parties change, agenda change.
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by telltruth:
The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery.

The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery.

President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves.

Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965
(Al Gore's daddy voted against it).

The Republican Party help found the NAACP

Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded, and financed the following:
Morehouse College
Howard University
Spelman College
Shaw Uniersity
Clark University
Samuel Houston College
Atlanta University

The above memtion was all opposed by the Democratic Party. Smile


While all this is true, this has little relevance today. The Republican Party of Lincoln is not the modern day GOP, today's GOP is the Party of Reagan.

The Radical Republicans (TAKE NOTE OF THE WORD "RADICAL") of Lincoln's day were a left-leaning party that supported democratic federalism, more workers' rights, more anti-trust laws, more government crackdown on corruption, government protection of workers, anti-slavery and anti-confederatism. The Party of Lincoln was basically a proto-Social Democrat party in today's terms.

The Southern Democratic party up until FDR supported heavier weight to States' Rights (read: support of state-protected slavery), more laissez-faire economic policies, and less anti-trust laws. They heavily appealed to Confederaes and later Dixiecrats. They were basically a right-wing populist party with Classical Liberal (Neoliberal/Libertarian) economic leanings.

The parties switched when FDR made the agenda of Northern Democrats (who were formally aligned with Radical Republicans) and Progressives the party platform of the Democratic Party. The Republican Party changed beginning with Eisenhower who started introducing more isolationism and protectoratism to party and became what it is today under Nixon culminating in Reagan.

The South had formerly always gone Democrat. They switched over to the Republican Party in the 1960's after the Democratic Party supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and a large majority of the modern-day Republican party's elder leaders were former Dixiecrats.


Hell, the Democrats and Republicans changed just from FDR to Nixon. Under FDR, the Democrats were mainly Social Democrats, Progressives and Keynesians. The Republicans were mainly conservative Keynesians and Paleoconservatives. Under Nixon, the Democrats were Neoliberals and the Republicans were Neoconservatives who supported aggressive anti-Communist foreign policy (they were formerly isolationist).


And let's not forget when Reagan first ran his campaign in 1980, he went to Philadelphia, Mississippi. He could've went to ANY city in the South: Atlanta, Jacksonville, Nashville, MIami, Charlotte, San Antonio...

But no. He had to go to the town, where it's only claim to fame (or infamy) is that Philadelphia, MS is the town where Goodwin, Schwerner and Cheney, the three civil rights workers, were brutally killed trying to register black voters.

Where were the Republicans when the South were lynching us between the Civil War and Civil Rights? Republicans haven't done a damn thing since Reconstruction. In fact, it was a Republican President, Rutherford B. Hayes, was the one who ended Reconstruction, which gave black folks in the south, if not in the entire country, another century of post-slavery, refried hell oppression.

I swear telltruth, I don't know how in the HELL, black men your age (Elder, Hamblin, etc.) who were alive to see that crap, and STILL be naive.
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I swear telltruth, I don't know how in the HELL, black men your age (Elder, Hamblin, etc.) who were alive to see that crap, and STILL be naive.


Huey, you're being very kind if you think TellTruth is only naive. He's surely not who he say he is because no black man can be that damn --------. I'll let you guys fill in the blank.

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