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March 09, 2006, 12:34 p.m.

Black Like GOP

Will the Dems lose a reliable constituency this year?

This year, Democrats may lose their iron grip on the black vote. About 90 percent of black Americans vote Democrat, rain or shine. But a growing sense that Democrats take them for granted "” plus several attractive, high-level black Republican candidates who will fight for these votes "” could make November 2006 and 2008 fascinating.

For starters, President Bush's black support grew from 9 percent in 2000 to 11 percent in 2004. That is no landslide, but Bush's black vote improved 22 percent despite his being vilified by the media and Democrats for four long years.

In Ohio, President Bush's support among blacks grew from 9 percent in 2000 to 16 percent in 2004. Given his tight race against Senator John Kerry (D., Mass.), blacks essentially handed President Bush Ohio, and thus a second term. These generally socially conservative blacks showed up to vote to ban gay marriage. Enough voters also supported Bush, a same-sex marriage opponent, to secure him the Buckeye State.

Second, 2006 features well-known, impressive black Republican candidates. Maryland's Lt. Governor, Michael Steele, seeks a U.S. Senate seat this fall, as does Michigan's Keith Butler, a former Detroit city councilman. In Ohio, Secretary of State Ken Blackwell is running for governor. And in Pennsylvania, Republicans on February 11 nominated former Pittsburgh Steeler Lynn Swann as their gubernatorial nominee. Each of these charismatic, well-spoken, black Republicans has a decent shot at victory.

What about their campaign agendas? They all should promote free-market ideas that have helped and will help blacks voters, and remind them how Democrats routinely say, "No!" to such reforms.

On taxes, for instance, President Bush has reduced them every year in office, always over Democratic objections. The result? The economy grew 3.5 percent last year despite the war on terror, sky-high oil prices, and hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and Wilma. For those with lower incomes, the bottom tax rate is now 10 percent rather than 15 percent. Meanwhile, higher-level tax-rate reductions leave more money in black middle-class pockets.

At this writing, the unemployment rate is 4.7 percent, its lowest level since July 2001. The bad news is that black unemployment is 8.9 percent. The good news is that it is down from a 10-percent average under President Clinton.

Meanwhile, with white unemployment at 4.1 percent, there is a 4.8-percent gap between white and black joblessness. That gap averaged 5.5 percent under President Clinton and 6.9 percent over the last 30 years. So, despite howls of Democratic protests, President Bush's tax cuts have helped create the best black-employment picture in a generation.

On Social Security, President Bush tried to bridge the Dividend Divide, the nearly 11-1 asset-ownership gap between white and black households. Voluntary Personal Retirement Accounts would let black individuals and families build nest eggs and bequeath them to their loved ones. This is excellent for black males who, on average, die at age 67.8 after collecting from Social Security for less than a year, while average white males enjoy seven years of benefits. President Bush's proposed accounts offered an alternative to this mess, but Democrats wailed, and his plan died of rejection.

On education, President Clinton vetoed a voucher program for students in Washington, D.C.'s dismal, predominantly black government school system "” twice. President Bush, in contrast, signed that bill into law.

Imagine what would happen if the 2008 Republican presidential nominee could campaign on these issues in inner-city Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, and Philadelphia with fellow Republicans who have been elected statewide and also happen to be black.

In Pennsylvania, which Kerry won by just 128,000 votes, if, say, Rudy Giuliani could stump with Lynn Swann and swing 64,000 more votes than did President Bush, all things being equal, the Keystone State and its 21 electoral votes go GOP. If Swann and Ken Blackwell can double the black vote for their nominee from 10 percent to 20 percent, it's nearly impossible to see how Hillary Clinton wins with neither Pennsylvania nor Ohio.

The best way to get blacks to consider voting Republican is for GOP candidates to ask them this basic question: "What have the Democrats done for you lately?"

"” New York commentator Deroy Murdock is a columnist with the Scripps Howard News.

© MBM

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Originally posted by Black Viking:
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The best way to get blacks to consider voting Republican is for GOP candidates to ask them this basic question: "What have the Democrats done for you lately?"

And I respond with... "What have the Republicans ever done for me, and what do they think they're going to do for me in the future? Roll Eyes


Exactly! I asked a friend of mine (black wanna be conservative) that very question and you know what, he didn't know what in the hell to say. Then I started naming off the things that Democrats have done that have benefited blacks and he was in shock.
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Originally posted by keylargo:
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Originally posted by Black Viking:
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The best way to get blacks to consider voting Republican is for GOP candidates to ask them this basic question: "What have the Democrats done for you lately?"

And I respond with... "What have the Republicans ever done for me, and what do they think they're going to do for me in the future? Roll Eyes


Exactly! I asked a friend of mine (black wanna be conservative) that very question and you know what, he didn't know what in the hell to say. Then I started naming off the things that Democrats have done that have benefited blacks and he was in shock.

That's the funny thing about wanna be's...

They usually haven't done their homework.
The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery.

The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery.

President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves.

Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965
(Al Gore's daddy voted against it).

The Republican Party help found the NAACP

Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded, and financed the following:
Morehouse College
Howard University
Spelman College
Shaw Uniersity
Clark University
Samuel Houston College
Atlanta University

The above memtion was all opposed by the Democratic Party. Smile
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Originally posted by telltruth:
The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery.

The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery.

President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves.

Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965
(Al Gore's daddy voted against it).

The Republican Party help found the NAACP

Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded, and financed the following:
Morehouse College
Howard University
Spelman College
Shaw Uniersity
Clark University
Samuel Houston College
Atlanta University

The above memtion was all opposed by the Democratic Party. Smile

I won't deny any of the above, Mr. Telltruth.

Now, if you would be so kind, please give me an example of something the Republican Party has done for me, during my lifetime, that would earn them my current, living, and breathing vote. Smile
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The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery.

The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery.

President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves.

Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965
(Al Gore's daddy voted against it).

The Republican Party help found the NAACP

Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded, and financed the following:
Morehouse College
Howard University
Spelman College
Shaw Uniersity
Clark University
Samuel Houston College
Atlanta University

The above memtion was all opposed by the Democratic Party.
The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery.

The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery.

President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves.

Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965
(Al Gore's daddy voted against it).

The Republican Party help found the NAACP

Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded, and financed the following:
Morehouse College
Howard University
Spelman College
Shaw Uniersity
Clark University
Samuel Houston College
Atlanta University

The above memtion was all opposed by the Democratic Party.

TELLTRUTH----While this may or may not be true please don't be fooled brother. If you look at it's history you'll understand that this is not the same republican party as they were then. Republicans of today are the old Dixiecrates who as we all know were against civil rights ( this means you TellTruth). The party is one of the deep south mantality and have adopted the thinking of Jesse Helms, Strom Thurman, Trent Lot. Please know this is not the same party!!!
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Originally posted by telltruth:
The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery.

The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery.

President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves.

Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965
(Al Gore's daddy voted against it).

The Republican Party help found the NAACP

Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded, and financed the following:
Morehouse College
Howard University
Spelman College
Shaw Uniersity
Clark University
Samuel Houston College
Atlanta University

The above memtion was all opposed by the Democratic Party. Smile


The Democrats of today are the Republicans of the pre-FDR, New Deal era. You know this. Those bedsheet-wearing, redneck Dixiecrats left the Democratic party after the New Deal to join the Republicans you see today. I guess they felt right at home with the Republikkkans.

Tell the truth, Mr. "Telltruth."
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Originally posted by telltruth:
The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery.

The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery.

President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves.

Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960.

Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965
(Al Gore's daddy voted against it).

The Republican Party help found the NAACP

Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded, and financed the following:
Morehouse College
Howard University
Spelman College
Shaw Uniersity
Clark University
Samuel Houston College
Atlanta University

The above memtion was all opposed by the Democratic Party. Smile


And [if you believe the Christian mythology of Eden] there once was a time when man [woman] was without sin. My, how times have changed.

Now Tell the Truth, Telltruth, You don't really believe that your argument holds any weight outside of the Republican National Committee Thinktank that first promoted the argument, do you?
In Ohio, President Bush's support among blacks grew from 9 percent in 2000 to 16 percent in 2004. Given his tight race against Senator John Kerry (D., Mass.), blacks essentially handed President Bush Ohio, and thus a second term. These generally socially conservative blacks showed up to vote to ban gay marriage. Enough voters also supported Bush, a same-sex marriage opponent, to secure him the Buckeye State.



MBM--- A lot of black folks to my surprise bought into the propaganda of the republican party. These people who essentially gave bush a second term got caught up in the none sense of Gay Marriage and other issues that doesn't really affect the black community. These people should be asking and voting to better educate their kids, the unemployment in our communities, homeless, how our kids are being herded into jails at alarming numbers. We let ourselves get side tracked by issues that don't affect us negatively from day to day. Who feels threaten by gay marriage? I don't know many blacks who are. We should vote on issues that matter to the masses. Black people shouldn't be so easily swaged by side shows. Vote for things that matter.

Also, If you believe all those positive things you mentioned regarding Bush and the repugs are true then I surely want to interest you in a bridge. Nothing these guys say or put forward is true or accurate. The say one thing but usually the opposite is true. We're winning in Iraq you know.......
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Originally posted by alonzo:
MBM--- A lot of black folks to my surprise bought into the propaganda of the republican party. These people who essentially gave bush a second term got caught up in the none sense of Gay Marriage and other issues that doesn't really affect the black community. These people should be asking and voting to better educate their kids, the unemployment in our communities, homeless, how our kids are being herded into jails at alarming numbers. We let ourselves get side tracked by issues that don't affect us negatively from day to day. Who feels threaten by gay marriage? I don't know many blacks who are. We should vote on issues that matter to the masses. Black people shouldn't be so easily swaged by side shows. Vote for things that matter.

I absolutely agree. Homosexuals only represent 6% of the population. They are not a threat to anyone, in any way.

However, I do believe that the oppression of them is very significant. It is an accurate reflection of our values in this day and age, as well as our values throughout history.

We need to get over this... and focus on things that actually matter.

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Also, If you believe all those positive things you mentioned regarding Bush and the repugs are true then I surely want to interest you in a bridge. Nothing these guys say or put forward is true or accurate. The say one thing but usually the opposite is true. We're winning in Iraq you know.......

I think you're projecting a little here. MBM posted an article written by someone else. There was no commentary. It's not fair to assume he agrees with the position.
why do we argue over the Democratic and Republican party. Neither has been helpful to the situation we as Africans in America face. One takes us for granted and other just takes us. We need to seriously start thinking about our political identification. Why keep accepting the 12am knock in the middle of the night. They promise and promise shyt but never deliver
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Originally posted by ZAKAR:

why do we argue over the Democratic and Republican party. Neither has been helpful to the situation we as Africans in America face. One takes us for granted and other just takes us. We need to seriously start thinking about our political identification. Why keep accepting the 12am knock in the middle of the night. They promise and promise shyt but never deliver


Brother, we live in a society that is controlled politically by the two parties. We can either choose to try to maximize our leverage and influence within that system, or we can choose other extra-political options to build a better life for ourselves. If you choose the latter, what would you suggest we do to move our community forward?
thats why so many people get frustrated with voting. That lesser of the two evils arguement, but we always end up with nothing but broken promises. I suggest we start our own party and vote our intrest. Sure our candidate may not win the presidency, but we could win some local elections and use that leverage to influence state and national elections.I just believe we have to something other than put all our faith in the dam Democratic or Republican party. To be honest the way politics is set up now, they way these two parties act is simply to perpetuate the same ole status quo. You basically have two elites , the Republican or conservative elites vs the liberal elites. Given this fact we have to start building from the grassroots level. I really believe we need a third party so that we can dictate our intrest and strategize with our best intrest at heart instead of being a sideshow agenda for the White liberal.
I'm sorry people, but I identify with neither Political Party Democratic or Republican. I only give you the the true "FACTS". On the contrary, what has the "democrats" done for Black people besides, invent the KKK, all the lynching from 1866 until the 1960's, blocking Civil Rights Acts since the 1800's and keep electing Senator Robert Byrd (Dem) a known KKK leader up until he was 40 years old and still serving in the Senate. I don't hear anything from any so called Black Leader. The Republicans have done nothing other than what I have memtioned....but the Democrats have done absolutely nothing unless you want to count the ghettos of New York city, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, Detroit, New Orleans etc. as a plus. No Hard feelings I hope-just giving the hard cold facts and not my opinion! Wink
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Originally posted by telltruth:

No Hard feelings I hope-just giving the hard cold facts and not my opinion! Wink


Sorry - you explicitly misrepresent the facts when you compare 19th and early 20th century Democrats and Republicans with today's bunch. As has been established, the political affiliations of parties pretty much flip-flopped in the last century. The facts are that conservatives have been against anything remotely in favor of expanding rights and opportunity for African Americans. They have been expressely against any legal or social equality in this country. Conservatives have been the outspoken enemy of anyone who cares about equality and justice and human rights and environmental rights not just here in America, but around the world.

Those, my friend, are the facts. Why anyone of African descent, or not a part of the American 'landed elite', would support the current Republican conservative agenda is absolutely beyond me.

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