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Originally posted by nayo:
Greetings Prophetessofrage,
I am relatively new to this board, and have not posted much, but your topic got my interest, as I just recently experienced this phenomenon of the 'socially' conflicted (to us anyway) bi-racial person.
That is not always the case, that bi-racial people respond in this manner, but, I have run across quite a few who do. And, is your main thesis in this post that the 'Black community' was wrong to want to include these folk?
I will say this, there is nothing more aggravating. I teach at several colleges as an adjunct in my town, and just this past semester, I had the misfortune, but educating experience, to meet a young man, who exemplified the qualites you allude to.
Because he was close to me in age, and was rather handsome,(I can be shallow like that sometimes) I sorta took a liking to him, but because I was the teacher, I kept it on the down-low. Well, this was a speech class, and a variety of topics were presented in my class. My ardor towards him which was high when the semester began, soon cooled, as I found that he was a big (the biggest) fan of Reagan, which is not a 'sin' in and of itself, but, he was also a fan of Bush, did not agree with the concept of 'police-brutality' or over zealous use of force against people of color, which can end in death, is studying to become a police officer, (again nothing wrong with that) and did not want me to bring up any discussions that went against the Iraqi War. I caved in to his wish that 'I' not talk against the war, because he was an enlisted 'man', and I wanted to respect that.
But, damn, he opposed everything that I either supported, or at least was sensitive to that dealt with the 'Black community'. He agreed with most everything that the Caucasian/Mexican students supported, which was usually things against Black Americans, ie. ideological positions on police and aggressiveness in the Black communities, hip-hop, affimative action etc. I was like wtf!
I do'nt want people to agree with me simply because I am the professor, but we did not see eye-to-eye on anything. I mean, even some 'pure' White American' folk understand the complexities of racism and its effects from a sociological perspective, on Black Americans.
Now I know that all bi-racial persons are not like this, but many that I have run into lately are. However, I have also come across a few 'pure' Black Americans who have relatively similar ideologicial and political perspectives. I mean Ward Connerly is 'pure' Black American, and have you seen anything more hideous than him?
Also, what prompted your post?
Hi Nayo, great commentary. What prompted this post is the nerve, and downright gall of the 'white bred' bi-racial batch of which you describe. These are on an all out mission to 'silence Black America' as they are nothing more than 'black haters' looking for sole approval by their white half. I too, have run into such types as you described.
These are as racist as the diabolical white race. The 'colored' type that spawned this group is usually of the right-wing, subjugated, Clarence Thomas, Ward Connelly make-up, or else, the many low-income, troubled black males who white girls flock after, just so they can get impregnated. As one black male described it, 'it's white girls latest fad.' None the less, the offspring becomes nothing more than 'white with dark color' of which they usually despise and use as a weapon against blackness. In other words, they are strictly white bred in ideology, and this is what they adhere to.
These abominable beings are the first to hurl their blackness at blacks. It reminds me of the diabolical white race who proclaim to Indians, 'why my great grandmother was a real Indian princess' and the learned Indian usually deride them by replying, 'there was no such title as 'princess' among our people.'
That's what these half-breed (white bred) ones are like. They'll hurl, 'why my great grandpappy was a lynched slave' or some such nonsense. Such are a walking horror in that it's one thing for a all white diabolical to utter such nonsense as people of color are use to that. However, it is another for some half n' half to utter it, when the truth of the matter is, depending on how recognizable Africoid in appearance they are, if they are caught in a Semi-Valley suburban area at dusk, they are likely to be picked up, jailed, beaten, killed and/or end up like their great-grandpappy, a modern day 'lynched slave.'
Yet, they dare to wear such a arrogant and foolish disposition and hurl it at blacks. They are an abomination, make no mistake about that and they are the reason white's retain power over blacks. These design plans to fight BLACK not WHITE but BLACK advancement.
As so, we must withstand this wretched batch as they are germs, diseased in mentality and must and will be withstood by any means necessary!
As for Ward Connelly here are the 2 posts of which I expressed my views on that...that...that.. well, you know what I mean.
https://www.africanamerica.org/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=60260642&f=40070883&m=60170738https://www.africanamerica.org/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=60260642&f=40070883&m=63170848At any rate, nice conversing with you Nayo. Again, great commentary. Oh, one more thing, with regard to that college crowd, be a mighty force of truth against them because the truth is, that is the ground where much of this ANTI-BLACK ADVANCEMENT rhetoric is being spawned and spewed. I cannot believe the ignorance that is being taught as 'education.'
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JAMES CHESTER: I recognize your comments were to Nayo but I would like to say, it is not a matter of forsaking the mulatto children as I'm all for any mulatto BLACK/CONSCIOUS child such as Halle Berry.
Being a man of great learning, I know you are aware of the old 'one drop' rule that whites once implemented. Truly, you know the 'white-bred' bi-racial children would not be able to claim themselves mixed if whites still had their demonic way.
However, since they don't in that one regard these white bred mixed seeds have declared themselves the 'enemy of the black' and therefore, we are not obligated to teach them anything but where they can go with their white racist mentality.
Now, as said to Nayo, that does not go for the mulatto BLACK/CONSCIOUS children for they have made a choice to walk in pro-black truth. They do not blind themselves to the reality of black and white and therefore are worthy of all acceptation.
However, the fact is, it is not up to blacks to run to them and make them choose, it is up to them to choose to respect blackness and if they do not, then they should be seen as much as the enemy as the diabolical white race (Note:Not including the few fair-minded caucasian people), as well as the Uncle Toms, Aunt Thomasina colored ones who through their action show they are black-self-loathing slaves to whites.
The choice is theirs, they must come humbly unto us, as we don't need to go running after them for anything whatsoever. The righteous, truthful Black faction is too good and noble to have to do that.
[This message was edited by Prophetessofrage on December 30, 2003 at 02:53 PM.]
Good one, Huey, however it doesn't amaze me that the wretched 'Ignant Louses' of the world like to come up with the 'oreo cookie' analogy as they are demented.
