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mirahjay you are so right...he is the last person to speak on something being offensive! Roll Eyes And then he tried to back peddle by saying he wasn't implying anything about the drug use it was about the community org. work-give me a break. Roll Eyes Even if his comment was truely about the community org. work why would he belittle that-someone working directly in our communities not someone sitting up in Washington going to poor cities for photo op's. Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
I'm expecting the menfolk to fall all overthemselves in putting Bob Johnson on blast for failing to support the brotha

Along with Urbansun for his support of Huckabee....

They are gonna come in here and rip bob johnson a new one any minute now........ Cool




1. I don't take Bob Johnson seriously.

2. Do I really need to remind you that Urbansun is the only member of this board who seems to take Huckabee seriously?


You don't see the same groundswell of support for Huckabee in black America that you see for Hillary. If there were, I'd be the very first person in line to rip urbansun a new one. Since there's not, why bother to even go there?
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
Damn whether he supports Obama... He needs his azz kicked just on GP... for saying the bs he did (about a brother).


Bob Johnson needs his azz kicked for a lot of things.



Agreed. Bob, depict blackness in the worst way 24 hours a day, Johnson needs to STFU and Go Sit Down! Occasionally someone like him or Andy Young decide to make some stupid statements IN PUBLIC. WTF is up with that? I don't understand that. Why would these respected brothas diss Obama in the media like that?


RE: Urbansun's position on "I could never vote for Obama because he's for abortion". He seems to be given a pass for this. Why? On the radioshow he was even told "I respect your right to your own position"... The sistas might like a lil of that... Big Grin
Johnson has a right to support someone other than a fellow Black man. It is his attempted character assisnation of Barack that was shameful. Also poorly disguished.

As far as Obama beng pro choice I too am pro choice. tfro
On the the other hand I am againist what amounts to amnesty for the 12+illegal aliens in this country which elected Dems tend to support.

There is really no perfect fit when it ocmes to political candidates.

It often involves selecting the "devil you know" rather than "the angel you've have never met".
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Originally posted by mirahjay:

Johnson has a right to support someone other than a fellow Black man. It is his attempted character assisnation of Barack that was shameful. Also poorly disguished.


agreed. He has the right to support someone other than a fellow black man. Using his clout to slam a fellow black man for the benefit of Hillary was in poor taste and foments a black on black hata mentality.


on a side note, it seems that a number of "prominent black Hillary supporters" are male....interesting... 19 wonder how much bob johnson has donated to the clinton campaign?
Personal choice is personal choice.

We all have that privilege...,and right.

Friends are friends.

We all have them.

In fact, you can pick them.

Friends help friends...often.

Sometimes...sometimes friends belong to the same organizations...members.

Sometimes very, very select organizations.

Bob Johnson tells us he, and Hillary, and William Clinton are friends, and have been for '20 years'.

What Bob Johnson does not tell us is that he, and Bill Clinton belong to an organization that is international in scope...

and is so select kings, and other royalty, receive invitation...and a number have accepted, and belong...such as the king of Saudi Arabia.

Among its members are 'The Bush's', Prime Ministers, 'The Clintons', 'The Saudi Family'...., AND
BOB JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!

It is an organization for those with extraordinary wealth, and extraordinary power.

The Carlyle Group.

Of course, he (Bob Johnson) will say 'Oh, that has no relationship to this.'

RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PEACE

Jim Chester
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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
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Originally posted by Nmaginate:
Damn whether he supports Obama... He needs his azz kicked just on GP... for saying the bs he did (about a brother).


Bob Johnson needs his azz kicked for a lot of things.



Agreed. Bob, depict blackness in the worst way 24 hours a day, Johnson needs to STFU and Go Sit Down! Occasionally someone like him or Andy Young decide to make some stupid statements IN PUBLIC. WTF is up with that? I don't understand that. Why would these respected brothas diss Obama in the media like that?


yeah spank stck
Makes no sense for Johnson cold diss Obama like that. Like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.
I really don't see how he has any room to critisize ANYONE, a man who held in his hands the only national and international media medium for African Americans and Blacks worldwide, yet, chose to only show music videos and videos of young Black women and girls half naked humping like wild animals any time of day or night, and promtly, after illuminating negative stero-types of his own people, sold it to white people.----So, he needs to just shut the hell up, and if African Americans have a problem with anyone, it really should be him and those of us like him.
WTF has Hillary ever done for the Black community? He had the nerve to paint a picture like "Obama has never done anything for the Black community, unlike Hillary." WTF has she or Wild Bill done for us other than attend Black church services when cameras are around? He also supported Hillary's dumbass comment about the 1964 Civil Rights Act being the "fulfillment" of MLK's dream. :roll: Anyone who knows more about MLK than what they learned in high school during Black History Month knows that MLK was deeply unsatisfied by the Civil Rights Act and by 1966 he was talking about how he had grown disillusioned with party politics.
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Anyone who knows more about MLK than what they learned in high school during Black History Month knows that MLK was deeply unsatisfied by the Civil Rights Act and by 1966 he was talking about how he had grown disillusioned with party politics.


EP do you have some quotes and/or references with that information?

All I can find is this:

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"Justice for black people will not flow into society merely from court decisions nor from fountains of political oratory. Nor will a few token change quell all the tempestuous yearning of millions of disadvantaged black people. White America must recognize that justice for black people cannot be achieved without radical changes in the structure of our society. The comfortable, the entrenched, the privileged cannot continue to tremble at the prospect of change in the status quo. When millions of people have been cheated for centuries, restitution is a costly process. Inferior education, poor housing, unemployment, inadequate health care--each is a bitter component of the oppression that has been our heritage. Each will require billions of dollars to correct. Justice so long deferred has accumulated interest and its cost for this society will be substantial in financial as well as human terms. This fact has not been fully grasped, because most of the gains of the past decade were obtained at bargain rates. The desegregation of public facilities cost nothing; neither did the election and appointment of a few black public officials."
Obama Gets Apology from BET Founder Bob Johnson, Endorsement from Respected Senator

Date: Friday, January 18, 2008
By: Associated Press and BlackAmericaWeb.com



Bob Johnson, the controversial founder of BET, apologized Thursday to Sen. Barack Obama for his impromptu remarks four days ago criticizing the Democratic presidential candidate's admitted drug use as a teenager and referring to Obama as Sidney Poitier.

"I'm writing to apologize to you and your family personally for the un-called-for comments I made at a recent Clinton event," Johnson said in a statement. "In my zeal to support Senator Clinton, I made some very inappropriate remarks, for which I am truly sorry. I hope that you will accept this apology. Good luck on the campaign trail."

Obama spokesman Bill Burton responded Thursday, saying, "Obama accepts the apology. We're going to leave it at that."

But some black political observers said Johnson's apology fell short.

"A letter isn't enough, it should be a public apology, with a handshake and a hug," Charles Ellison, chief editor and senior fellow for Blackpolicy.org, told BlackAmericaWeb.com Thursday.

"That was raw and just wrong on Johnson's part," Ellison said. "Who is he to talk, considering his network set the standard for glorifying certain types of behavior in the community, including drug and street gangster, hustler and pimp culture?"

"Given the impact of drug addiction, drug trading, disproportionate drug sentencing and alcoholism in the African-American community, the last thing any of us -- including Bob Johnson –- should be doing is criticizing any brother or sister who actually beat their addiction," he said.

Ellison said many black Americans have friends, family, co-workers and people in their neighborhoods who suffer daily from addictions and should praise those overcame their problems.

"Obama's personal story is serious inspiration to all -- to have been on the brink of addiction abyss and breakdown, yet get to this point where he's a U.S. senator and running for president," Ellison said.

"So many lost brothers and sisters out there we've seen; so much talent and potential gone to waste due to substance abuse; so many lives lost. Johnson should be apologizing to more than just Obama," he added.

"I think what Johnson did was despicable," one black political strategist told BlackAmericaWeb.com Thursday. "But then again, it was consistent with his narrow thought process and vision ... with BET showing videos with scantily-dressed women. This is who our black kids have looked up to."

However, Traci Blunt, a spokeswoman for the Clinton campaign, said Johnson apparently has been forgiven for his now-infamous remarks.

"Mr. Johnson is supporter of the campaign and we take him at his word," Blunt told BlackAmericaWeb.com Thursday.

According to CNN, when asked Tuesday at a Las Vegas debate about Johnson's comments, Clinton distanced herself from his remarks, saying, "Well, Bob has put out a statement saying what he was trying to say and what he thought he had said. And we accept him on his word on that."

But when asked whether Johnson's comments were out of bounds, Clinton said, "Yes, they were. And he has said that."

Four days ago, Johnson also seemed to hint at Obama's acknowledged youthful drug use, an issue that led another Clinton campaign official to resign. Johnson later denied that was the case.

Johnson, the nation's first black billionaire and founder of the BET cable television network, said Obama's campaign had acted dishonestly and had distorted Clinton's remarks about Martin Luther King Jr.

Clinton was quoted just before the New Hampshire primary as saying King's dream of racial equality was realized only when President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Some black leaders have criticized that remark as suggesting Johnson deserved more credit than the slain civil rights leader for the passage and enactment of major civil rights legislation.

While introducing Clinton at Columbia College on last week, Johnson criticized Obama's camp which started the firestorm.

"That kind of campaign behavior would not be reasonable with me for a guy who says 'I want to be a reasonable, likable, Sidney Poitier,'" said Johnson, owner of the NBA's Charlotte Bobcats. He commented after Clinton said in a televised interview Sunday that she hoped the campaign would not be about race.

And Johnson added: "To me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues, when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood -- I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in his book -- when they have been involved," Johnson said.

Initially, the Obama campaign did not accept Johnson's explanation.

"His tortured explanation doesn't hold up against his original statement. And it's troubling that neither the campaign nor Sen. Clinton -- who was there as the remark was made -- is willing to condemn it as they did when another prominent supporter recently said a similar thing," said Burton, the Obama spokesman, at the time.

Last month, top Clinton adviser Bill Shaheen resigned from the campaign after suggesting Democrats should be wary of nominating Obama because his past drug use could be used against him in the campaign.

Obama supporter "I.S." Leevy Johnson, a former South Carolina state legislator, said it was "offensive" that Clinton stood by during Johnson's "personal, divisive attack on Barack Obama."

"For someone who decries the politics of personal destruction, she should've immediately denounced these attacks on the spot," Johnson said in a statement issued by Obama's campaign.

Earlier Thursday, Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, endorsed Obama.

"We need a president who can reintroduce America to the world and actually reintroduce America to ourselves," Leahy (D-Vt.) said in a conference call with reporters. "I believe Barack Obama is the best person to do that."

Leahy's endorsement gives Obama eight among Democratic senators, compared to 11 for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Many Democratic senators have held off on public endorsements in the presidential race, in part because there were at one time four Democratic senators and a former one in the race.

More endorsements could follow now that Sens. Christopher Dodd and Joseph Biden have dropped out, though the Democratic field remains crowded with senators: Obama, Clinton and former Sen. John Edwards are still in the race.

Leahy, 67, was elected to the Senate in the post-Watergate class of 1974 and presides over the committee's hearings on nominations to the Supreme Court and the Justice Department. A former state prosecutor, he also established his panel's first subcommittee on human rights and is an avid advocate for a worldwide ban on land mines.

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