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I think the brother raises a good point. What is the purpose of saying that someone is the first 'black' anything unless that blackness has a direct and positive impact on the black condition in America?

To be elected president it necessitates that one appeal and maintain a base that is composed of a majority. Therefore it is only logical to assume that a 'black' president or a 'women' president would pander to the interest of those who are their funders and primary constituents. The power people are mostly white men, and although women make up a large base, would it significantly shift towards a woman because the woman is a woman?

So in the final analysis I would argue that the real benefit of having a first 'black' president would only be cosmetic and superficial as the position necessitates a pandering to the white base anyway.
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Originally posted by hungry4more:
Barak Obama, the only AA Senator is charismatic, smart, funny, compassionate and seems to have lots of fans in Middle America.

Could Barak Obama be the first black U.S. President?



I believe Obama could win. It really depends on the other candidate though. I think being raised by his white mother, will allow some white Americans to feel more connected to him, also. He seems moderate as well, which will make him an attractive president. He is young and attractive for a politician, so yes-- he could win.

What hurts candidates, the most is the bashing. Obama has done drugs in the past, but I can't thik of anything that Republicans can tear him down with. He doesn't have much of a record.
hungry4more ...

I wasn't sure how to vote ... there were 2 different questions there! Big Grin

I do believe that Obama could be the first Black president. And I do believe that the U.S. will have one ... sooner or later. And probably later. I really don't think we're ready just yet. But, eventually, yes.

Dell Gines ...

I believe that as we (Black people) find our place in this society (which we haven't always had) being a "first" is important in the context of where we've been, where we are, and where we're going. This country is 230 years old and Barak Obama is only the 5th Senator to be elected to Congress, three of which have been in the last 40 years. Contrary to popular (Conservative) belief, we are not equal participants here. While there may be more opportunities for us than there used to be, there is still not equal opportunity.

The first time there is a Black somebody for anything there is a direct and positive impact on the Black community because it shows one more barrier previously erected against us falling down. We are still experiencing the first Black family members to graduate from college in this country. It may not benefit you personally, but it is another one in the "village" who is making good.

It would be one thing if we were still having "firsts" because we were just now becoming capable of doing these things, just learning how to run Fortune 500 companies, to be judges, to be Senators or astronauts or college graduates. But, we are still having "firsts" because we are just now winning a 200+ year battle against oppression and racism that kept us from being the "first" a long time ago.
Ebony, to me, we are past the point of accepting secondary or tertiary cosmetic benefits of claiming someone is the 'first'.

I can acknowledge that there would be psychic benefits of having a 'black' president, but once you get past that what do get?

The purpose of power is to use power for a purpose, when it comes to black folks would having a black president yield black power or would that black president simply be one of the 'capital hill gang'?
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Originally posted by Dell Gines:
Ebony, to me, we are past the point of accepting secondary or tertiary cosmetic benefits of claiming someone is the 'first'.

I can acknowledge that there would be psychic benefits of having a 'black' president, but once you get past that what do get?

The purpose of power is to use power for a purpose, when it comes to black folks would having a black president yield black power or would that black president simply be one of the 'capital hill gang'?

Exactly what I was thinking. As Public Enemy asserts in Welcome to the Terrordome,
"Every brother ain't a brother cause a color
Just as well could be undercover"
I think he would be the frist Black prez. But I do think he would be like everyone else. But would appove alot of low income areas. Him being half Kanyan gives him in appeal to the rest of the world. And being half White would really get him the white vote here in America. But one thing that some Black Americans don't understand is. America will never have a pro Black president. Obama be eqaul to everyone. Not just Blacks. I think why we haven't had a Black President yet is because. To many times we want one that is purely Pro Black. We forget that a President is for everyone not just us. I know most White Presidents don't stand for everyone. But they usally have to give up that pro white thinking. When it comes to world issues sometimes. Because the rest of the world isn't going to understand what the hell their talking about. To many time White Presidents try to use pro white thinking. It always back fires.

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