Oh BTW, I'm not supporting Israel in any of their actions simply because they are morally wrong in their states actions and practices xenophobia. Plain and simple. And the state speaks for the people.
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Originally posted by *Muhammad Cipher*:
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by joeodd:
Hale Hitler rock


Only Neocons and blue dog Democrats equate Judaism with Zionism. That's like equating being white with supporting White Nationalism.

Seriously, just stop embarrassing yourself. This is getting ridiculous.


Don't sweat him. He's a paid troll.


If so, his handler's would need to pay him more so he can practice being more discreet about it...

plus, let him... Moat eats trolls.. and many here can use the diversion to let off steam.. :-)
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Originally posted by joeodd:
I get it, your a Muslim. Ok.......chill. Zionism, Judaism......I don't think those rockets fired from Gaza can really tell the difference.........


Okay, now I know you're a paid troll. You're probably one of those young adults that Zionists are paying to spread misinformation about the 2008-2009 Gaza Conflict.

Israel started the shelling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2...a_conflict#2008_lull

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The agreement required Hamas to end rocket attacks on Israel and to enforce the lull throughout Gaza. In exchange, Hamas expected the blockade to end, commerce in Gaza to resume, and truck shipments to be restored to 2005 levels, which was between 500 and 600 trucks per day. Israel tied easing of the blockade to a reduction in rocket fire and gradually re-opened supply lines and permitted around 90 daily truck shipments to enter Gaza, up from around 70 per day. Hamas criticized Israel for its continued blockade while Israel accused Hamas of continued weapons smuggling via tunnels to Egypt and pointed to continued rocket attacks.

The UN recorded seven IDF violations of the ceasefire between June 20 and June 26, and three violations by Palestinian groups not affiliated with Hamas between June 23 and 26. On December 18, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, reported 185 Israeli violations during the lull period. The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center reported a total of 223 rockets and 139 mortar shells fired from Gaza during the lull, including 20 rockets and 18 mortar shells before November 4. It noted that "Hamas was careful to maintain the ceasefire" until November 4, when the ceasefire was "seriously eroded." Rocket fire decreased by 98 percent in the four and a half months between June 18 and November 4 when compared to the four and a half months preceding the ceasefire. Hamas denied responsibility for the rocket fire during the 'lull'. However, Human Rights Watch reported that while Hamas security forces demonstrated an ability to curb rocket fire, some people detained for firing rockets were summarily released without explanation.


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Maybe the Jews should just accept the rockets and not complain.


Maybe they should stop firing first and they would stop getting hit back. You can't hit people and not expect them to hit back.

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Consider them daily little "surprises"? I mean other countries wouldn't react harshly if their neighbor start shooting rockets into their country. Israel is just being a big Meanie! spank


1) Israel started this particular conflict.
2) The UN has had the Likud party's number (and many Labor party member's numbers) for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Israel

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BTW Hamas wants to drive ALL Jews into the sea. It's in their charter.


Then why haven't they acted on it?

BTW, the goal of Operation Cast Lead was to "make an example of the Palestinians". That was explicitly said.
I know I'm jumping back in a little late and off-topic..but I am thinking that the supreme court appointments and strenghthening the justice dept and civil rights laws will be one thing Obama does for blacks and also ensure that the jobs created from the stimulus will be allocated fairly.....just my though...my question? what is it people would have wanted Obama to do this quick? any specific actions or just speak out on certain issues on behalf of black people in the US? Curious.......
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
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Originally posted by joeodd:
I get it, your a Muslim. Ok.......chill. Zionism, Judaism......I don't think those rockets fired from Gaza can really tell the difference.........


Okay, now I know you're a paid troll. You're probably one of those young adults that Zionists are paying to spread misinformation about the 2008-2009 Gaza Conflict.

Israel started the shelling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2...a_conflict#2008_lull

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The agreement required Hamas to end rocket attacks on Israel and to enforce the lull throughout Gaza. In exchange, Hamas expected the blockade to end, commerce in Gaza to resume, and truck shipments to be restored to 2005 levels, which was between 500 and 600 trucks per day. Israel tied easing of the blockade to a reduction in rocket fire and gradually re-opened supply lines and permitted around 90 daily truck shipments to enter Gaza, up from around 70 per day. Hamas criticized Israel for its continued blockade while Israel accused Hamas of continued weapons smuggling via tunnels to Egypt and pointed to continued rocket attacks.

The UN recorded seven IDF violations of the ceasefire between June 20 and June 26, and three violations by Palestinian groups not affiliated with Hamas between June 23 and 26. On December 18, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, reported 185 Israeli violations during the lull period. The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center reported a total of 223 rockets and 139 mortar shells fired from Gaza during the lull, including 20 rockets and 18 mortar shells before November 4. It noted that "Hamas was careful to maintain the ceasefire" until November 4, when the ceasefire was "seriously eroded." Rocket fire decreased by 98 percent in the four and a half months between June 18 and November 4 when compared to the four and a half months preceding the ceasefire. Hamas denied responsibility for the rocket fire during the 'lull'. However, Human Rights Watch reported that while Hamas security forces demonstrated an ability to curb rocket fire, some people detained for firing rockets were summarily released without explanation.


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Maybe the Jews should just accept the rockets and not complain.


Maybe they should stop firing first and they would stop getting hit back. You can't hit people and not expect them to hit back.

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Consider them daily little "surprises"? I mean other countries wouldn't react harshly if their neighbor start shooting rockets into their country. Israel is just being a big Meanie! spank


1) Israel started this particular conflict.
2) The UN has had the Likud party's number (and many Labor party member's numbers) for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Israel

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BTW Hamas wants to drive ALL Jews into the sea. It's in their charter.


Then why haven't they acted on it?

BTW, the goal of Operation Cast Lead was to "make an example of the Palestinians". That was explicitly said.


People get paid to Troll? Seriously. I mean I honestly don't try to Troll. And I personally apologize for making that statement. It was incendiary and I deserved to be called on it. I should addressed my disagreement in a more civil manner. So to that person, who I said that to and to any who took offense. I'm sorry.


Now......for real? People get PAID to troll? I'd like to investigate this more.....can you point me to the website where you sign up.....for......research....... Wink
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
I know I'm jumping back in a little late and off-topic..but I am thinking that the supreme court appointments and strenghthening the justice dept and civil rights laws will be one thing Obama does for blacks and also ensure that the jobs created from the stimulus will be allocated fairly.....just my though...my question? what is it people would have wanted Obama to do this quick? any specific actions or just speak out on certain issues on behalf of black people in the US? Curious.......


I honestly don’t see Obama as on the same page with Negro folk. If you take the average mainstream black beliefs in regards to race, America and the like, Obama does not share them in degree, if not kind or he does not vocalize such beliefs while being beholden to white support to maintain power. You conveniently dismissed the WCAR, as well as, his campaign actions of avoiding black issues and issues of race unless forced into a corner. The only thing Obama has single out black folks for is for “constructive criticism”. I recently heard where he singled out Hispanics as being hard hit by something that I cannot remember…..but I thought to myself “aint dat a blip….this Negro cannot single black folks out as being hit hard or in need of more help in degree or kind, but he can do so for Hispanic, Jews and other special interest groups”. Personally, I am tired of this tip toe sh1t. We cannot get special attention or singled out unless it’s for criticism, while other groups get special attention for other plights they are facing. That’s unacceptable. Moreover, I don’t know how many Jewish folks live in America, but it’s not 40 million, which is the number of Negro folk in America. So I don’t know how so few Jews can trump the interest of so many blacks.

Obama is going to fight to preserve the STATUS QUO. Unfortunately, the status quo is that black poverty is 3 times that of whites, black unemployment is twice that of whites, black wealth is 10 times less than whites, black incarceration rates…..etc. Simply preserving policy and creating efforts to help the economy does nothing to address the racial inequality. When did we abdicate the goal of racial equality in America? I know when white folks did…….but when did black folks abdicate that goal? You keep looking to the future in hopes of what Obama MIGHT do, while apologizing for all the opportunities he has had......and did nothing....if not lean to the traditional arguments against black folks.
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
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Originally posted by Kevin41:
I know I'm jumping back in a little late and off-topic..but I am thinking that the supreme court appointments and strenghthening the justice dept and civil rights laws will be one thing Obama does for blacks and also ensure that the jobs created from the stimulus will be allocated fairly.....just my though...my question? what is it people would have wanted Obama to do this quick? any specific actions or just speak out on certain issues on behalf of black people in the US? Curious.......


I honestly don’t see Obama as on the same page with Negro folk. If you take the average mainstream black beliefs in regards to race, America and the like, Obama does not share them in degree, if not kind or he does not vocalize such beliefs while being beholden to white support to maintain power. You conveniently dismissed the WCAR, as well as, his campaign actions of avoiding black issues and issues of race unless forced into a corner. The only thing Obama has single out black folks for is for “constructive criticism”. I recently heard where he singled out Hispanics as being hard hit by something that I cannot remember…..but I thought to myself “aint dat a blip….this Negro cannot single black folks out as being hit hard or in need of more help in degree or kind, but he can do so for Hispanic, Jews and other special interest groups”. Personally, I am tired of this tip toe sh1t. We cannot get special attention or singled out unless it’s for criticism, while other groups get special attention for other plights they are facing. That’s unacceptable. Moreover, I don’t know how many Jewish folks live in America, but it’s not 40 million, which is the number of Negro folk in America. So I don’t know how so few Jews can trump the interest of so many blacks.

Obama is going to fight to preserve the STATUS QUO. Unfortunately, the status quo is that black poverty is 3 times that of whites, black unemployment is twice that of whites, black wealth is 10 times less than whites, black incarceration rates…..etc. Simply preserving policy and creating efforts to help the economy does nothing to address the racial inequality. When did we abdicate the goal of racial equality in America? I know when white folks did…….but when did black folks abdicate that goal? You keep looking to the future in hopes of what Obama MIGHT do, while apologizing for all the opportunities he has had......and did nothing....if not lean to the traditional arguments against black folks.


Yes it's quite the catch 22 isn't it. On one hand he does have an obligation to use his power to do everything he can to help Black Americans. On the other, showing favoritism would be a death sentence for his re-election. For someone with such a thin resume, to run for president so early in his political career, did you really not think that maybe his priorities could be more geared toward his "legacy" and "career" than advancing African American issues. Could it not be that in many ways he views his election as an achievement, that somehow negates much of his responsibility to the Black Community. In other words his ascension should be enough, for it will inspire the masses. Sounds Narcissistic, but every person who runs for that office has to be a bit Narcissistic. Not bashing Obama, just pointing out that he may not be a complete saint. He's only human.
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Originally posted by joeodd:
On one hand he does have an obligation to use his power to do everything he can to help Black Americans.


Why? Confused
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by joeodd:
On one hand he does have an obligation to use his power to do everything he can to help Black Americans.


Why? Confused


Because that's what African Americans who attain power should do. It's what the greatest leaders in our history have done. You can't ask for our support to make history, and then turn around a say that you've done enough by making history. That's just wrong. kind of like this.....off



Great movie, offensive and funny. off
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Originally posted by joeodd:
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by joeodd:
On one hand he does have an obligation to use his power to do everything he can to help Black Americans.


Why? Confused


Because that's what African Americans who attain power should do.

Oh okay. Well, there's a difference between "should do" and "obligated to do". You said *obligated*, hence my question.

Obama never specifically asked African Americans for their vote with a promise of specifically giving something back in return. THAT would have *obligated* him.

He asked ALL Americans to vote for him with a promise to make ALL of America better. Which wouldn't *obligate* him to any one particular group for their specific needs.

Now, what he *should do* and the reasons why is a whole 'nother thing altogether. So, I'll just take that you meant that he should "use his power to do everything he can to help Black Americans" .. and not that he is obligated to.

But, if this is incorrect, please elaborte! Smile

(And preferrably without your self-portrait attached this time!) Razz
Obama is OBLIGATED to those whose votes and support are CONDITIONAL. Hence, ER is correct in that this excludes most black folks. The only condition that blacks are looking for is that the person is not a Republican. Obama can move to the right, on many issues related to blacks, Supreme Court appointments and the like…..and I can almost guarantee that in 2012 at least 85% of the black vote will go to Obama. Negroe folk will still be saying “give him time…..just wait till his next term….when he is a lame duck and has nothing to lose….then he is going to take a stand”…….LOL. Negroes don’t deserve nothing when they don’t demand respect.
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
Obama is OBLIGATED to those whose votes and support are CONDITIONAL. Hence, ER is correct in that this excludes most black folks. The only condition that blacks are looking for is that the person is not a Republican. Obama can move to the right, on many issues related to blacks, Supreme Court appointments and the like…..and I can almost guarantee that in 2012 at least 85% of the black vote will go to Obama. Negroe folk will still be saying “give him time…..just wait till his next term….when he is a lame duck and has nothing to lose….then he is going to take a stand”…….LOL. Negroes don’t deserve nothing when they don’t demand respect.


Well, actually, Noah ... it seems like YOUR expectations are higher than the *average* African American ... which is odd because you're supposed to not have any real stake in the matter!!

It seems to me that most Black people are content right now to wait and see what Obama may or may not do before castigating and badmouthing him about any deficiencies that his presidency may brings. Most are willing to give him a chance (read: some time = more than 100 days out of a possible 1,460 (4 yr) or 2,920 (8 yr)) in order to accurately and adequately assess his actions.

You, on the other hand, constantly and consistently decry what he hasn't done, what he's not gonna do, what he can't do, what he won't do, how he hasn't said this or that, or what he has said to somebody else ..... all and anything negative and disparging.

Since 2012 isn't here yet, perhaps the reason he might get 85% of the Black vote is because he will deserve it!! Of course, that thought has never occurred to you ... but, you've got to admit ... without a crystal ball you really don't know for sure, do you?? Confused

I don't think at this point you can accurately judge what *Negros* nor Obama will or won't deserve when all is said and done. However, whatever that is, I think, will definitely be a more intellectually conceived notion than the one you're presenting right now ... because it will be judged upon what has actually happened instead of the pure speculation you're offering up at this point.

Patience is a viture, darlin'! You should getcha some sometimes soon! Smile
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
Obama is OBLIGATED to those whose votes and support are CONDITIONAL. Hence, ER is correct in that this excludes most black folks. The only condition that blacks are looking for is that the person is not a Republican. Obama can move to the right, on many issues related to blacks, Supreme Court appointments and the like…..and I can almost guarantee that in 2012 at least 85% of the black vote will go to Obama. Negroe folk will still be saying “give him time…..just wait till his next term….when he is a lame duck and has nothing to lose….then he is going to take a stand”…….LOL. Negroes don’t deserve nothing when they don’t demand respect.


Well, actually, Noah ... it seems like YOUR expectations are higher than the *average* African American ... which is odd because you're supposed to not have any real stake in the matter!!

It seems to me that most Black people are content right now to wait and see what Obama may or may not do before castigating and badmouthing him about any deficiencies that his presidency may brings. Most are willing to give him a chance (read: some time = more than 100 days out of a possible 1,460 (4 yr) or 2,920 (8 yr)) in order to accurately and adequately assess his actions.

You, on the other hand, constantly and consistently decry what he hasn't done, what he's not gonna do, what he can't do, what he won't do, how he hasn't said this or that, or what he has said to somebody else ..... all and anything negative and disparging.

Since 2012 isn't here yet, perhaps the reason he might get 85% of the Black vote is because he will deserve it!! Of course, that thought has never occurred to you ... but, you've got to admit ... without a crystal ball you really don't know for sure, do you?? Confused

I don't think at this point you can accurately judge what *Negros* nor Obama will or won't deserve when all is said and done. However, whatever that is, I think, will definitely be a more intellectually conceived notion than the one you're presenting right now ... because it will be judged upon what has actually happened instead of the pure speculation you're offering up at this point.

Patience is a viture, darlin'! You should getcha some sometimes soon! Smile


You know that is a lie! Black folks feel Democrats deserve their vote, regardless of what Democrats actually do. It’s not like Negro folks are going to switch parties if a Democrat stinks up the place. It’s just not going to happen. It’s totally disingenuous to argue that we need to “wait and see” LMAO….I say that the Democrats are GUARENTEED 85% of the next election vote…….regardless of what Obama does.

Besides....I have given Obama credit for picking Holder....as well as his position on Credit Cards. Its not like I don't give him credit where I think it is due.
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
Obama is OBLIGATED to those whose votes and support are CONDITIONAL. Hence, ER is correct in that this excludes most black folks. The only condition that blacks are looking for is that the person is not a Republican. Obama can move to the right, on many issues related to blacks, Supreme Court appointments and the like…..and I can almost guarantee that in 2012 at least 85% of the black vote will go to Obama. Negroe folk will still be saying “give him time…..just wait till his next term….when he is a lame duck and has nothing to lose….then he is going to take a stand”…….LOL. Negroes don’t deserve nothing when they don’t demand respect.


Well, actually, Noah ... it seems like YOUR expectations are higher than the *average* African American ... which is odd because you're supposed to not have any real stake in the matter!!

It seems to me that most Black people are content right now to wait and see what Obama may or may not do before castigating and badmouthing him about any deficiencies that his presidency may brings. Most are willing to give him a chance (read: some time = more than 100 days out of a possible 1,460 (4 yr) or 2,920 (8 yr)) in order to accurately and adequately assess his actions.

You, on the other hand, constantly and consistently decry what he hasn't done, what he's not gonna do, what he can't do, what he won't do, how he hasn't said this or that, or what he has said to somebody else ..... all and anything negative and disparging.

Since 2012 isn't here yet, perhaps the reason he might get 85% of the Black vote is because he will deserve it!! Of course, that thought has never occurred to you ... but, you've got to admit ... without a crystal ball you really don't know for sure, do you?? Confused

I don't think at this point you can accurately judge what *Negros* nor Obama will or won't deserve when all is said and done. However, whatever that is, I think, will definitely be a more intellectually conceived notion than the one you're presenting right now ... because it will be judged upon what has actually happened instead of the pure speculation you're offering up at this point.

Patience is a viture, darlin'! You should getcha some sometimes soon! Smile


You know that is a lie! Black folks feel Democrats deserve their vote, regardless of what Democrats actually do. It’s not like Negro folks are going to switch parties if a Democrat stinks up the place. It’s just not going to happen. It’s totally disingenuous to argue that we need to “wait and see” LMAO….I say that the Democrats are GUARENTEED 85% of the next election vote…….regardless of what Obama does.

Besides....I have given Obama credit for picking Holder....as well as his position on Credit Cards. Its not like I don't give him credit where I think it is due.


Noah ... you really need to put those hallucinagenics down .... they are not good for you, and plus, they went out in the 80's!!! Big Grin

Black folks vote for Democrats because THEY HAVE NOBODY ELSE TO VOTE FOR!! And, unlike you, they don't feel compelled to spit on the honor of our ancestors that have suffered and died to secure the right to vote by not not going to the polls and exercising that right!!

Now .. let em type this r-e-a-l s-l-o-w for you so that maybe you'll be able to comprehend ....

There is a 2-party system in this country. Those parties are the Democrats and the Republicans. If one is going to vote, you have to vote for either one of those parties or the other.

The Democratic party sucks. The Republican party sucks worst than the Democrats do. Black people choose the lesser of the only two evils available.

End of story.

Dayum. Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
Obama is OBLIGATED to those whose votes and support are CONDITIONAL. Hence, ER is correct in that this excludes most black folks. The only condition that blacks are looking for is that the person is not a Republican. Obama can move to the right, on many issues related to blacks, Supreme Court appointments and the like…..and I can almost guarantee that in 2012 at least 85% of the black vote will go to Obama. Negroe folk will still be saying “give him time…..just wait till his next term….when he is a lame duck and has nothing to lose….then he is going to take a stand”…….LOL. Negroes don’t deserve nothing when they don’t demand respect.


Well, actually, Noah ... it seems like YOUR expectations are higher than the *average* African American ... which is odd because you're supposed to not have any real stake in the matter!!

It seems to me that most Black people are content right now to wait and see what Obama may or may not do before castigating and badmouthing him about any deficiencies that his presidency may brings. Most are willing to give him a chance (read: some time = more than 100 days out of a possible 1,460 (4 yr) or 2,920 (8 yr)) in order to accurately and adequately assess his actions.

You, on the other hand, constantly and consistently decry what he hasn't done, what he's not gonna do, what he can't do, what he won't do, how he hasn't said this or that, or what he has said to somebody else ..... all and anything negative and disparging.

Since 2012 isn't here yet, perhaps the reason he might get 85% of the Black vote is because he will deserve it!! Of course, that thought has never occurred to you ... but, you've got to admit ... without a crystal ball you really don't know for sure, do you?? Confused

I don't think at this point you can accurately judge what *Negros* nor Obama will or won't deserve when all is said and done. However, whatever that is, I think, will definitely be a more intellectually conceived notion than the one you're presenting right now ... because it will be judged upon what has actually happened instead of the pure speculation you're offering up at this point.

Patience is a viture, darlin'! You should getcha some sometimes soon! Smile


You know that is a lie! Black folks feel Democrats deserve their vote, regardless of what Democrats actually do. It’s not like Negro folks are going to switch parties if a Democrat stinks up the place. It’s just not going to happen. It’s totally disingenuous to argue that we need to “wait and see” LMAO….I say that the Democrats are GUARENTEED 85% of the next election vote…….regardless of what Obama does.

Besides....I have given Obama credit for picking Holder....as well as his position on Credit Cards. Its not like I don't give him credit where I think it is due.


Noah ... you really need to put those hallucinagenics down .... they are not good for you, and plus, they went out in the 80's!!! Big Grin

Black folks vote for Democrats because THEY HAVE NOBODY ELSE TO VOTE FOR!! And, unlike you, they don't feel compelled to spit on the honor of our ancestors that have suffered and died to secure the right to vote by not not going to the polls and exercising that right!!

Now .. let em type this r-e-a-l s-l-o-w for you so that maybe you'll be able to comprehend ....

There is a 2-party system in this country. Those parties are the Democrats and the Republicans. If one is going to vote, you have to vote for either one of those parties or the other.

The Democratic party sucks. The Republican party sucks worst than the Democrats do. Black people choose the lesser of the only two evils available.

End of story.

Dayum. Roll Eyes


You can rationalize it and justify it any dang well you please…..the bottom line is that NOTHING you stated negates my point…..which is the FACT that Democrats don’t have to deliver JACK SLIT…because Negroes will keep voting because they don’t want to spit on the face of their ancestors. I don’t think my ancestors were idiots. I am sure my ancestors would want me to leverage the system to maximize the long term interest of black people via exercising their freedom of CHOICE. It’s like our ancestors fight for integration. I don’t interpret our ancestors struggle for integration to mean that I must now forever seek out to sit next to a white person at lunch counters or to send my kids to school to be next to white kids or only ride in the front of the bus….etc. Rather, only an ignorant interpretation of that history would lead to such a conclusion. The common sense, if not intelligent interpretation is the abstract objective of F REEDOM OF CHOICE. The same is true of voting…..they were fighting for the CHOICE and freedom to VOTE, as a means of representing the interest of black people. The goal of the ancestors struggle was to promote the rights and interest of black people. Hence, I believe that continuing to support a political party, without making demands for that support, like all other interest groups do, is the biggest spit in the face our ancestors. Our ancestors were FIGHTERS. This weak azz strategy of supporting a Party…when the party will not support our interest…….is a shame. .
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Originally posted by Noah The African:
Obama is OBLIGATED to those whose votes and support are CONDITIONAL. Hence, ER is correct in that this excludes most black folks. The only condition that blacks are looking for is that the person is not a Republican. Obama can move to the right, on many issues related to blacks, Supreme Court appointments and the like…..and I can almost guarantee that in 2012 at least 85% of the black vote will go to Obama. Negroe folk will still be saying “give him time…..just wait till his next term….when he is a lame duck and has nothing to lose….then he is going to take a stand”…….LOL. Negroes don’t deserve nothing when they don’t demand respect.


Ok for the record I didn't post that........

But the fact is that we are the mistress of the democratic party, and like it or not it's a two party system. When one is out of power, who the group or intrest that is attached to that party is S.O.L as well. That's probably why you see more diversity in politics amung other minorities. It's not because they are all rednecks, but it's just diversifying their stock and making themselves more valuable and harder to get. If the Black vote were split 50/50, our issues would then matter. The two parties care about power, they may care about power because it's a part of their idea of acheiving "the greater good", but still at the end of the day it's about gaining and keeping power. Until we realize this fully, we will never be viable players in this game.........ok I didn't say that either it was the other too....... dance
If the Black vote were split 50/50, our issues would then matter. The two parties care about power, they may care about power because it's a part of their idea of acheiving "the greater good", but still at the end of the day it's about gaining and keeping power.---joeodd

That is a fact!!!

If African Americans had their own party...focused first on the needs of African America...our issues would REEEAAALLLLY matter.

Our vote has always been the focus of the 'two parties'.

When WE focus on OURselves to meet OUR needs, WE will matter.

That confidence will come when we recognize OURselves.

I was once told by the former chairman of a gubernatorial campaign that the issues of African Americans in northeast Pennsylvania are ignored, because they are 'POLITICALLY INSIGNIFICANT'.

IS ANYONE LISTENING?????????


PEACE

Jim Chester

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