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Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks


by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

January 20, 2006 - 3:00 pm ET

(Atlanta, Georgia) The Rev. Al Sharpton told a conference of African American gay leaders Friday that the Bush administration is fostering homophobia in the Black community for his own political gain.

The New York Democrat said that Bush focused on same-sex marriage and traditional fears of gays among Blacks to get re-elected in 2004lwhen he should have been addressing education, health care and jobs.

Speaking in Atlanta at a national conference called by the National Black Justice Coalition, Sharpton said that gay African Americans must engage in dialogue with Black church leaders.

About 150 people from across the country are attending the three day conference aimed at combating homophobia within the Black community.

Sharpton began his speech by saying he grew up in a family that had a gay member. He did not identify that member, but he said that he saw firsthand the bigotry that gay people confront.

Rev. Sharpton recently announced an initiative to vigorously challenge homophobia in the Black Church.

The conference also was told that it is imperative that religious leaders realize and recognize the contributions of the LGBT community and the impact marriage discrimination will have on African American children and families.

According to the 2000 U.S. Census, black same-sex couples earn roughly $2,000 to $9,000 less in median annual household income than black married opposite-sex couples.

Last November many Blacks across the country supported President Bush's re-election over concerns Democrats were too favorable to LGBT issues.

Black church leaders also were instrumental in the advancement of amendments in several states to ban same-sex marriage.

The growing disharmony between Black clergy and gays reached a climax in October when gay African American leader Keith Boykin was prevented from speaking at the Millions More March on the National Mall, despite an invitation from march organizer Louis Farrakhan.

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I just heard this man on our local news say that "some people pick and choose the SINS of others to make use of as a means of isolating them.

We need to look at someone's sin and say THAT'S ALRIGHT BROTHER WE ACCEPT YOU."

So let me get this straight. Though God hates sin, he does not rank one sin over another.

Sharpton just said that homosexuality is sin based on his argument. He is only asking that we ACCEPT PEOPLE'S ACTIVE SIN.

Can you now understand the CULTURAL problems that we have as a people when these clowns are allowed to speak for us?
Black Church Summit
23 Dec 05 12:00 AM EST

SCHEDULE OF EVENTS

Sharpton and Flunder to Headline Black Church Summit on Gay Rights

Focus on Homophobia and Exclusionary Divisiveness

December 20, 2005 - Washington, DC - National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC) will convene a major discussion on lesbian and gay rights among black faith leaders. The two day Summit is to be hosted by First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia and is scheduled for January 20-21, 2006. For a schedule of events, click here.

Former Democratic Presidential candidate Rev. Al Sharpton of New York and City of Refuge Ministries' Bishop Dr. Yvette Flunder, Senior Pastor of the United Church of Christ's City of Refuge Church in San Francisco, California will be featured speakers. Rev. Sharpton recently announced an initiative to vigorously challenge homophobia in the Black Church. This will be his first participation in a meeting that will deal directly with that initiative.

The summit will begin with an opening reception at the Atlanta City Hall Auditorium Thursday evening, January 19th. The reception is open to participants and community leaders. Invited dignitaries for the opening reception include Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin and Ambassador Andrew Young. Conference invitees include Rev. Willie Wilson, Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Peter Gomes.

"These high level discussions are about developing specific strategies that will challenge homophobic attitudes in our nation's black religious institutions-from the seminary to the pulpit," said Dr. Sylvia Rhue, NBJC Director of Religious Affairs and Constituency Development. "Through enlivened and educated discussions about the lives of black gay families, we hope to bring love and spiritually infused enlightenment to our communities of faith, to help them grapple with issues of sexual orientation and the bible."

The groundbreaking summit will include two full days of keynote speeches, dialogue, videos, small group discussions and interactive conversations. The Summit is a direct response to anti-marriage proponents pandering to the black church for their own agenda. It is imperative that religious leaders realize and recognize the contributions of the LGBT community and the impact marriage discrimination will have on African American children and families.

http://www.nbjcoalition.org/news/nbjc-convenes-black-church.html
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Originally posted by ricardomath:

by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

According to the 2000 U.S. Census, black same-sex couples earn roughly $2,000 to $9,000 less in median annual household income than black married opposite-sex couples.


Is that going to change if they get married? Is this number a reflection of tax breaks that married people get, and what other variables are there? I have a hard time believing that this income gap is actually caused by being a same-sex couple. The same Census shows white same-sex couples actually have more median income than white heterosexual couples.

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Last November many Blacks across the country supported President Bush's re-election over concerns Democrats were too favorable to LGBT issues.


If this is true, then we deserve what we got. This is another great example of ideological manipulation. It's pretty easy to follow. It works like this...

Politician says, "I need a way to distract these people from the issues (unemployment, healthcare, war, ect.) that actually matter to them. That way I won't have to confront those issues at all."

"I know... I'll convice them that some small, isolated, and reletively powerless group of people are the reason for everything that is wrong with America. If I can convince them that a small (6%) portion of the population is waging some sort of covert shadow war against the very moral fabric of our society, not only will they forget about more important issues, but they will even vote for me so that I can stop this 'scourge'. Why not, it worked last time!"

This strategy has been working against poor white folks for a long time now. This is why there are so many poor white people that keep voting Republican, no matter how badly they keep getting screwed.

This is the first time I know of that this strategy has worked on us. That's more than a little depressing.

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Black church leaders also were instrumental in the advancement of amendments in several states to ban same-sex marriage.


Don't they have anything better to do? Aren't there people out there who could use some spiritual guidence? If their going to spend time advancing amendments they should advance amendments that might actually help their community.

I will never understand why people spend so much time, energy, and effort to oppress others. Especially when those others have nothing to do with them whatsoever.
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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:
CON-FEED, THIS IS A FEDERAL ISSUE, NOT A RELIGIOUS ISSUE.

RESPECT THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. LEAVE YOUR THEOLOGY AT THE DOOR.


You are a GOD damnned FOOL.

Al Sharpton stood in a PULPIT and made these comments.

I WAS COMMENTING ABOU HIS COMMENTS. Where do YOU get this foolish statement from?
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I will never understand why people spend so much time, energy, and effort to oppress others. Especially when those others have nothing to do with them whatsoever:



SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.

THE CONCEPT OF DEFINING WHO CAN MARRY EACH OTHER BASED ON GENDER IS "OPPRESSION"?

I want to marry 2 woman AND a man. All 4 of us want to live in peace and they all want to make use of my jobs healthcare coverage for married partners.

USING YOUR BASIS - why should the 4 of us continue to be OPPRESSED?

Where did the concept of 2 people IN A MARRIAGE come from?

The real problem that You all have is that you are unable to cast anything that looks like JUDGEMENT to you.

So many of you on this board are so used to doing what YOU think is EXPANDING LIBERTIES OF PEOPLE. You can't bring yourself to be accountable for the PROBLEMS that your LIBERAL SOCIAL NORMS create. Instead you begin to say "The government has failed to respond to this increase in problems. THey are at fault" (ie: Not handing out condoms to prevent AIDS, not paying for abortions, not offering needle exchange programs, etc).

You are beside yourself in attempting to have YOUR CULTURE rather than the GOVERNMENT to produce the societal justice that you seek.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
You are a GOD damnned FOOL.

Al Sharpton stood in a PULPIT and made these comments.


I'm not referring to him you goddamned idiot, I was referring to you.

It matters not whether or not your religion or your interpretation of a holy book agrees with the concept of Gay Marriage. What matters is what the Constitution says.

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Where do YOU get this foolish statement from?


What about Seperation of Church and State? The First Amendment.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.

THE CONCEPT OF DEFINING WHO CAN MARRY EACH OTHER BASED ON GENDER IS "OPPRESSION"?


You finally got something straight. Yes, a benefit that is afforded one group of people to the exclusion of another based on race, religion, gender, ethnicity, sexual-orientation, or disability is illegal discimination, and therefore oppression.
BTW, it's also unconstitutional.


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I want to marry 2 woman AND a man. All 4 of us want to live in peace and they all want to make use of my jobs healthcare coverage for married partners.


Healthcare coverage has nothing to do with anything. Insurance companies set their own policies. No one has a constitutional right to healthcare. They should, but they don't.


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USING YOUR BASIS - why should the 4 of us continue to be OPPRESSED?


What does this mean? You make it sound as if the victims of oppression have a choice about being oppressed. I hope that is not what you are saying, because if it is you are totaly unclear on the concept.


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Where did the concept of 2 people IN A MARRIAGE come from?


That's a good question, since it's not that common a practice. Where do you think it came from? The Bible? There are a number of Old Testament figures that had more than one wife, including Noah. That's interesting, since Judeism and Christianity are the only religions that publically denounce polygamy.

But this is about homosexuality, not polygamy. Stay on the topic.

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The real problem that You all have is that you are unable to cast anything that looks like JUDGEMENT to you.


How is that the real problem? It comes right back to you. The real problem that you have is that you are unable to do anything but cast judgment. Who put you in charge? And why wan't I invited to the meeting?

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So many of you on this board are so used to doing what YOU think is EXPANDING LIBERTIES OF PEOPLE.


No, it's called recognizing liberties of people. Expanding gives the impression that we're trying to give them something. Liberties are God given. People like you just fail to recognize that sometimes.


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You can't bring yourself to be accountable for the PROBLEMS that your LIBERAL SOCIAL NORMS create.


What problems are you talking about here? I do mean specifically in regards to gay marriage. Don't go swinging off on a tangent.


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Instead you begin to say "The government has failed to respond to this increase in problems. THey are at fault" (ie: Not handing out condoms to prevent AIDS, not paying for abortions, not offering needle exchange programs, etc).


Sigh... too late.
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
You are a GOD damnned FOOL.

Al Sharpton stood in a PULPIT and made these comments.


I'm not referring to him you goddamned idiot, I was referring to you.

It matters not whether or not your religion or your interpretation of a holy book agrees with the concept of Gay Marriage. What matters is what the Constitution says.

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Where do YOU get this foolish statement from?


What about Seperation of Church and State? The First Amendment.


off Just curious, but did MSNBC actually misspelled Niger Innis's name on purpose/or by accident, or is that Photoshop?
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Originally posted by Huey:
off Just curious, but did MSNBC actually misspelled Niger Innis's name on purpose/or by accident, or is that Photoshop?


LOL, no that's not Photoshop, THAT REALLY HAPPENED. lol

I kid you not, go type in "Nigger Innis" in the search engine, and you'll find articles about that happening live on national TV on MSNBC.

They later apologized and claimed it was an "accident". Yeah, that's a helluva accident......

But, I think Niger Innis deserves it. A Black Republican Strategist? A Black man helping a party plot the exploitation and destruction of his own people........ scream
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As a hetrosexual, married Black man I believe that I am being DISCRIMINATED AGAINST because this oppressive society and culture has me only able to marry one woman.

Please join me in my conquest to allow polygamy in this nation.



* Take ya azz to Utah.....where inbreeding and excessive welfare use is rampant...wonder why the racist azz media and ronald raygun did not promote THEM as the image of the welfare queens?
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Originally posted by Constructive Feedback:
As a hetrosexual, married Black man I believe that I am being DISCRIMINATED AGAINST because this oppressive society and culture has me only able to marry one woman.

Please join me in my conquest to allow polygamy in this nation.


Obviously you weren't paying attention when I gave the legal definition of illegal discrimination. Go back, read my last post, and try again.

Please pay close attention to the "to the exclusion of another" part and then explain how anything you just posted makes any sense at all.
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