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Activist: Exterminate White People

Black Raleigh activist says on C-SPAN

By Jon Sanders

October 21, 2005

RALEIGH "” A Raleigh activist and bookstore owner told a panel at Howard University Law School on Oct. 14 that the solution to many of the problems faced by black people is the extermination of "white people off the face of the planet." Dr. Kamau Kambon, who taught Africana Studies 241 in the Spring 2005 semester at North Carolina State University, also said this needs to be done "because white people want to kill us."

Addressing a panel on "Hurricane Katrina Media Coverage," broadcast in its entirety on C-SPAN, Kambon told the audience that white people "have retina scans, they have what they call racial profiling, DNA banks, and they're monitoring our people to try to prevent the one person from coming up with the one idea. And the one idea is, how we are going to exterminate white people because that in my estimation is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve this problem."

Kambon's solution received slight applause in the room, to which he responded, "I don't care whether you clap or not, but I'm saying to you that we need to solve this problem because they are going to kill us."

The course Kambon taught at NCSU in the spring of 2005, Africana Studies (AFS) 241, is listed in NCSU's Registrations and Records as "Introduction to African-American Studies II," a three-credit-hour course described as "Second in a two semester sequence in the interdisciplinary study of sub-Saharan Africa, its arts, culture, and people, and the African-American experience."

A visiting professor at NCSU since 2003, Kambon has also taught AFS 240 at the university. AFS 240 is "African Civilization," described as: "An interdisciplinary study of centers of African civilization from antiquity to the 1960s. Such centers include ancient Egypt, Nubia, Axum, Ghana, Mali, Songhai, Kilwa, Malinda, Sofola, Zinzibar and Monomotapa."

A spokesman for NCSU told Carolina Journal that the school currently has no listing of Kambon as a professor. As of this writing, however, Kambon is listed on the faculty web page for Africana Studies as affiliated faculty.

Prior to his call for genocide against white people, Kambon, who owns Blacknificent Books in Raleigh, told the panel that "we are at war." He said that white people had set up an "international plantation" for blacks, which made "every white person on earth a plantation master." He said that, "You're either supporting white people in their process of death, or you're for African liberation."

He stressed one point in particular. "White people want to kill us. I want you to understand that. They want to kill you," he said. "They want to kill you because that is part of their plan."

Kambon closed his remarks by urging participants and C-SPAN viewers to "get very serious and not be diverted from coming up with a solution to the problem, and the problem on the planet is white people."

Before teaching at NCSU, Kambon was a professor of education at St. Augustine's College in Raleigh, a historically black institution. He was given a Citizen's Award in 1999 by the Triangle's left-wing newspaper, The Independent Weekly. Ironically, Kambon is also an opponent of the death penalty.

Excerpts of Kambon's address may be heard online at the John Locke Foundation's blog site The Locker Room. The full remarks may be found at C-SPAN online (http://www.cspan.com) by searching the recent programs for "Black Media Forum on Image of Black Americans in Mainstream Media."

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Originally posted by MBM:
Activist: Exterminate White People

Kambon's solution received slight applause in the room, to which he responded, "I don't care whether you clap or not, but I'm saying to you that we need to solve this problem because they are going to kill us."

The full remarks may be found at C-SPAN online (http://www.cspan.com) by searching the recent programs for "Black Media Forum on Image of Black Americans in Mainstream Media."


That is some scary stuff to say out loud. I cannot imagine that he doesn't realize the danger of such a public proclamation, but more importantly that whatever his agenda is, it will not be helped by this kind of exposure.

I have said, and will stand by it, that white people are the most violent on the face of the earth when you look at the entirety of their history of pillaging and plundering the world. Yet, advocating the extermination of an entire people is antithetical to a message opposed to their violence.
All I have to say is that what he is saying is true, however, not true for EVERY white person on this planet, but it is true to a certain percentage of whites in America especially, as well as globally. I would not go as far as to advocate some genocide plan against white people in general, but I see nothing wrong with those actually proven to be bent on our destruction and/or genocide being exposed, brought to justice and even 'eliminated' "by any means necessary" if that what it takes to protect ourselves from total destruction and genocide.

As far as the mention of the "Katrina" incident, I believe that it was another right wing 'test' of the American public and what they are willing to sit back and watch happen without doing anything about, like protesting, demanding impeachments, revolting against this totalitarian regime that is aligning itself in place in America as we speak - the same way George W. Bush stealing the election, which amounted to the right wing republicans staging a coup in America was testing the response of Americans to mounting attempts toward totalaritorianism in this country, to see of Americans would be able to see for forest for the trees. Of course America failed the first test (the Bush Election coup), but did put up a show of resistence during the 'Katrina' test.

Yet, the so-called "Homeland (i.e., "Fatherland" - sound familiar?) Security test of America seems to be so far above the heads of the average American, primarily because of the lack of knowledge of our own constitution and the science of 'politics' that most Americans cannot even make the connection to our constitution being molested by right wing totalitarian wannabees and the overreaching and in most cases, grossly unnecessary "homeland ('fatherland') security's" blanket of power looming over us all.

As this regime plays on all of our prejudices, ignorances, fears, differences and indifferences, we are too busy drawing lines in the sand to realize that we all may be well on our way to being put in the same position as the "Katrina" victims - no rights, basics needed to live withheld, and at gunpoint no doubt.

All I can say is, NEVER FORGET! (Less we find ourselves or too many of us lulled to sleep while the unthinkable happens all around us).
Ummmm.... Where are the arguments that Whites have not reigned in the extremists/fundamentalists among them?

I think we all know the rest.

The biggest problem with Kambon's pronouncement is that he doesn't have the power of government/society to follow through with what he has concluded. And I don't think the "Not ALL White People" thingy applies.

Again, it's readily apparent that The GOOD Whites haven't done a good enough job of reigning in the extremists among them.

Funny how that type of rhetoric seems to escape people when it comes to statements like this. So once you start reading this, realize that even in Warmongering Rhetoric of "Whites" in the modern era they have not "killed" every person of a given "people" targeted.

So let's keep it real... LOL
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All I have to say is that what he is saying is true, however, not true for EVERY white person on this planet, but it is true to a certain percentage of whites in America especially, as well as globally. I would not go as far as to advocate some genocide plan against white people in general, but I see nothing wrong with those actually proven to be bent on our destruction and/or genocide being exposed, brought to justice and even 'eliminated' "by any means necessary" if that what it takes to protect ourselves from total destruction and genocide.


'eliminated'?

I thought you said you were against the death penalty. Is that because of principle or practice?
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Again, it's readily apparent that The GOOD Whites haven't done a good enough job of reigning in the extremists among them.


The failure of anti-racism is partly due to a failure of those blacks most fervently against white supremacy to form alliances with those whites most ready to battle white racism.

No anti-racist worth his salt should be anything but 100% behind white cats like Tim Wise, or the theoretical frameworks of Adrian Piper.

But I think it is exactly this kind of spouting off that some folks want to try to coattail on. It'll never work. Case in point: Leonard Jeffries. Where is his political movement now? Dead as Elvis.
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Again, it's readily apparent that The GOOD Whites haven't done a good enough job of reigning in the extremists among them.


The failure of anti-racism is partly due to a failure of those blacks most fervently against white supremacy to form alliances with those whites most ready to battle white racism.


So let me get this straight. Racism and white supremacy are black peoples' fault?
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The failure of anti-racism is partly due to a failure of those blacks most fervently against white supremacy to form alliances with those whites most ready to battle white racism.
BULLSHIT!

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No anti-racist worth his salt should be anything but 100% behind white cats like Tim Wise.
Well, seems like quite a few people here are behind Tim Wise, etc. So there is something very wrong with your theory. And perhaps you can tell us what those alliances, when the Tim Wise's are few and far between, are suppose to do, in and of themselves.

Please at least try to make sense when you forward notions which are really an attempt to attack as oppose to provide any type of insight.

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But I think it is exactly this kind of spouting off that some folks want to try to coattail on.
Is this some more of your dumbass Cultural Nationalist ASSumptions?
Where is the Coattail Clauses and statements?

WTF are you talking about?
Leonard Jeffries??? WTF are you talking about?

GET A CLUE --> then talk. Don't quote something I've said and then say some dumb shit like you've just did... connecting it to what I've said.

What I said is SELF-EVIDENT! Historically and currently accurate. That's exactly why you said nothing to refute it but instead said some dumbshit about the "Failure Of Anti-Racism."

Now, let's see you quote Tim Wise on Interracial Alliances and coalitions when it comes to Anti-Racism work. Otherwise, STFU!! With your comments as deadly irrelevant as Elvis' pet dog's turd in his backyard.
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So let me get this straight. Racism and white supremacy are black peoples' fault?
That's the recurring theme in the all the rhetoric...


ABOUT TIM WISE and Anti-Racism...
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In terms of fighting for racial equity, what specific things
do you think whites can do?


  • First, recognize that racism is a white problem, and a problem that all whites must address.

    So long as the institutions of society provide us with racial privilege"”however mediated it may be through class and gender divisions among other things"”we have to take it seriously, and not treat it like just another "topic"...

    ...Until [Whites] make racism something we deal with every day"”the way people of color have to whether they like it or not"”very little is going to change... By treating racism like just another issue, while we continue to reap the benefits of a racist system makes us complicit in evil.

  • Second, don't worry so much about interracial alliances and organizing.

    First, organize around racism in the white community; with friends, colleagues, family members, neighbors. I know we all want to work together, and build alliances with people of color, but unless we spend just as much time working on cleaning up our own shit, intraracially, then no long-term alliances are going to last...

  • Third, we have to be accountable to people of color and their communities.

  • Finally, to refuse to collaborate means refusing to give our votes to candidates who don't reflect an anti-racist agenda, or who give short shrift to these issues.

    http://www.lipmagazine.org/articles/featbrasel_75_p.htm

  • But let's really have a sit-down, COBB:
      "i say that there is no difference between the white in white supremacy and the white in whitefolks. speaking of it simply, there's an obvious difference in degree in the racial views of a white supremacist and an ordinary whiteguy. but i'd imagine that whitefolks get very uncomfortable with the association if it was brought to their attention on a regular basis. they might even do something about it. they might fix the 'white problem'."
    I'm assuming you're/you were talking about the same WHITE PROBLEM Tim is/was?



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    I cannot argue the absence of containment of white extremists. I don't think anyone could articulate a credible argument of its existence. The most recent example is that pseudo-Christian millionare Pat Robertson and his call for the assassination of Hugo Chavez.

    Personally, I am just a little taken aback by Kambon's public proclamation.

    On another note: Tim Wise is a rarity, and the first to tell people that white folks are the ones that are needed to put their feet on the collective neck of white supremacists. In his case, I readily defer to D. White man's expertise.
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    Personally, I am just a little taken aback by Kambon's public proclamation.
    Never having heard of the guy, I take it about as serious as I would the proclamations from a white supremacists, the reaction to a racist society notwithstanding.

    That's exactly why I pointed out how powerless he is to carry-out what he is resigned or resolved to call a "solution." Unlike Pat Roberson, he doesn't have such pull or even a semblance of it.

    So it is with white supremacists. But even unlike them, Kambon doesn't have a legion of Skin Heads willing to do his bidding even on the small scale "hate" scene.

    So I take a view that has more to do with the entire context and probabilities/possibilities instead of a knee-jerk response to his statement alone. Hell, wild Black sentiments are nothing new. And certainly most who are Black and Conservative have no room to talk when it comes to wild Black sentiments. Even when it comes to "killing"... BOMB THE GHETTO seems to come to mind that and the White Derived, IMO, Throw-Away People [White Trash-Black Trash] theory.
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    Originally posted by Nmaginate:
    That's exactly why I pointed out how powerless he is to carry-out what he is resigned or resolved to call a "solution." Unlike Pat Roberson, he doesn't have such pull or even a semblance of it.


    ...point very well taken. Pat's coziness with the current administration does make him a barometer of the sentiments of those power. Unlike a relative unknown, like Kambon (I've never heard of him either), who has neither the influence with people in power, nor the support of a large contingency of devotees.

    I believe it was shown on Faux Newz. That alone is an indication that the inflammatory nature of his message, not the veracity of his ability to make good on its message, motivated its being so publicized.
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    Although I agree it was not so wise to make such a plea to the obvious enemy, and that blacks are in no position to back it up, I agree for the most part with what the professor says. Whites do want to murder blacks to the extent that our population growth or power does not pose a threat to their ability to control and dominate us at will.

    Blacks who attempt to organize are not even focused on black equality; they always have to include every other group, which defeats any real accomplishments. Every other ethnic and racial group or ˜cause' has their own well focused organizations that do not include blacks and others. So how can blacks, who (as a result) are least efficient at looking out for their own well being, afford to fight for everyone else and expect to ever accomplish anything for their own benefit? It won't happen, and all those other groups know that and don't care, nor do they wish to see blacks doing as well as they are. That's why they always infiltrate black efforts with other agendas like pro-homosexuality, to distract them from focusing on and obtaining real black progress.
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    Originally posted by Cobb:
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    All I have to say is that what he is saying is true, however, not true for EVERY white person on this planet, but it is true to a certain percentage of whites in America especially, as well as globally. I would not go as far as to advocate some genocide plan against white people in general, but I see nothing wrong with those actually proven to be bent on our destruction and/or genocide being exposed, brought to justice and even 'eliminated' "by any means necessary" if that what it takes to protect ourselves from total destruction and genocide.


    'eliminated'?

    I thought you said you were against the death penalty. Is that because of principle or practice?

    ________________________________________

    I don't believe in the death penalty, but I do belief in self-defense. For example, if a scientist/government invented a lethel virus that he/she/they intended to inject into Black people in order to commit genocide (or thin out) the Black populations on this planet and the only way to stop this from happening would be to 'eliminate' the source of such a virus, then, would it not be self defense (against germ warfare intended to 'eliminate' Black people from this planet)? Oh, but I forgot, they are already doing that. My bad, bad example.

    But anyway . . . you can't compare a two bit thug to orchestrators of genocide, war and generational destruction of an entire race of people.

    Whatever Tookie may have done, I think that he may be giving himself more credit that is due considering that, as I said, gangs were in America (as well as in Los Angeles) long before Tookie was ever even born. At least he has admitted his wrong doings and is asking for mercy, while others that do more than he could have imagined on a grander scale will not even admit to their wrong doings and still have no remorse for what they have done and are still doing.

    All I'm saying is, if you are going to hate and condem the Tookies of this country, then hate and condem all distroyers; don't give the other a pass, while saving all your venom for only the Black Tookies of the world.
    This whole thing reminds me of the Eddie Murphy's SNL skit:Excuse me... Tyrone Green and his Reaggae Band.
      ........

      Kill the white people
      We're gonna make them hurt
      Kill the white people
      But buy my record first
    Ummm... Where was the flak from that? LOL
      Gonna Get My Shotgun

      "I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see,
      I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.
      When I kill all the whities I see, then whitey he won't bother me,
      I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see."

      SNL skit: Garret Morris
    And yet another Tim Wise reference: << Honky Wanna Cracker? >>
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    Originally posted by MBM:
    He stressed one point in particular. "White people want to kill us. I want you to understand that. They want to kill you," he said. "They want to kill you because that is part of their plan."



    Man, what a clown. For starters, white folks ain't wasting time or effort planning to kill blacks; blacks seem to be doing a good job of killing each other, thank you. Second, should such an extermination plan ever get legs, I believe it would be the black man facing annihilation in the end. Bottom line: whitey has more and bigger guns, and he's a better shot.
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    For starters, white folks ain't wasting time or effort planning to kill blacks... blacks seem to be doing a good job of killing each other, thank you.
    Seems to me he tied the two together. His sentiments were tied to the story he relayed of "brothers dying in the streets" and the occasion was the Katrina aftermath.

    You could at least direct your comments to what was actually said. And it is/was readily apparent that he did not infer that every White individual was actively trying to "kill" anyone... just, for one, not doing anything against those things that do "kill [Blacks et al] slowly"...(the "[slow] processs of death" he talked about)... sorta like the untold thousands of Whites who were silently complicit with Slavery, etc.

    The organizer of the event denounced his statements... FYI. And there is some very fake outrage from people who revere White figures, historical or present, who are actually responsible for mass murder, torture, terror, etc. That was pointed out too... but you will hear nothing but a "dead" silence on that.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46992
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    I can't believe the "ho hum" attitude about these remarks. You can't go around saying "we have to exterminate white people" any more than Bill Bennett can say that aborting all black babies will lower the crime rate.

    Both of those statements are stupid and wrong. I understand why we might "feel" like whitey's trying to get us, but c'mon.

    We can't just accept any dumbshit somebody with a degree or two or three says. Mad
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    Originally posted by Nmaginate:
    Seems to me he tied the two together. His sentiments were tied to the story he relayed of "brothers dying in the streets" and the occasion was the Katrina aftermath.

    You could at least direct your comments to what was actually said... The organizer of the event denounced his statements... FYI. And there is some very fake outrage from people who revere White figures, historical or present, who are actually responsible for mass murder, torture, terror, etc. That was pointed out too... but you will hear nothing but a "dead" silence on that.



    Well, I thank you for pointing that out and I stand corrected... mostly. But the reaction to Kambon was itself nothing compared to the sonic boom heard after Bill Bennett's hypothetical remark about aborting black babies. Even the white master of the "No-Spin Zone" of conservative righteousness, Bill O'Reilly, could only mutter in his interview last week with Sokoni that Kambon's remarks were "unproductive." Gee, Bill, don't be so hard on him. (Hell, I've disparaged employees who spend too much time stepping outside for a smoke break as "unproductive")

    In my opinion, black/white race relations in America have taken a major nose dive over the past decade or two. A race war may indeed be in the offing and it don't take a five-star general to see which side has the overwhelming numbers in its favor. It's a damn shame, but both sides are equally to blame. One side or the other needs to tone down the racial rhetoric and soon. Hopefully, what one new-age philosopher has predicted will come true sooner rather than later:

    "IN THE FUTURE, EVERYBODY WILL SHUT THE FUKK UP FOR 15 MINUTES"

    ...
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    Originally posted by Warren:
    I can't believe the "ho hum" attitude about these remarks. You can't go around saying "we have to exterminate white people" any more than Bill Bennett can say that aborting all black babies will lower the crime rate.

    Both of those statements are stupid and wrong. I understand why we might "feel" like whitey's trying to get us, but c'mon.

    We can't just accept any dumbshit somebody with a degree or two or three says. Mad



    With a denouncement like that, now I see where Nmaginate was coming from.
    Another example of becoming what you hate by doing what has been done to you. Killing only begets killing.

    Thanks Kresge for providing a link to Kambon's speech.

    Kambon sounded much like some of the very same whites who believe in the Jewish Conspiracy who now live in the woods of Montana.

    Kambon's claim to kill white people is just plain fucked. In his world all blacks are slaves and have no control over their lives. How brilliant, this means that you are not responsible for your actions as you are the puppet of the Man if you kill blacks this is good, if kill whites this is good too because it is part of the great conspiracy...

    Now the question is if you decided to follow dumbass'suggestion, how do we determine who is white and who is black.Is skin colour enough? Is it just the pure white folks who get the shiv? Who determines what.

    If a White conspiracy already exists then perhaps Kambon is a powerless, unwitting pawn of the Man by calling for whitey's extermination.
    And we are fools for listening.

    Question who controls C-Span??
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    black/white race relations in America have taken a major nose dive over the past decade or two.

    Confused
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    Another example of becoming what you hate by doing what has been done to you.

    Confused

    With statements like those, a special forum just for those type of off-the-wall, contrary to reality & reason statements will be more than warranted.

    I'm search for the Golden Era of "Race Relations" (as if there has ever been anything that could be called, positively, a [constructive] "RELATIONSHIP") and I'm struggling to find what was "DONE" by Kambon that replicates what "Has Been DONE".

    Hmmm.... First, no roles have been reversed. Black people in the US aren't either the numerical or power majority and, no, there has been no Black imposed White Slavery or forced Segregation or Assimilation, etc. So what are you talking about?

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    Now the question is if you decided to follow dumbass'suggestion, how do we determine who is white and who is black. Is skin colour enough? Is it just the pure white folks who get the shiv? Who determines what.
    Dude, you are Slippin' Into Darkness. Now, I'll say something a little off, but true. Your statement is about as warranted as Kambon's. Point being, for a number of reasons (some of which have been expressed in this thread), there is NO QUESTION. There is no "large contingency of devotees" or [significantly] small ones. Otherwise this would not be news.

    And I'd be damned if I haven't heard of Kambon or his invisible minions DOING anything on that order...

    And with people drawing ridiculous Moral Equivalences ("both sides are equally to blame"; "You can't go around saying "we have to exterminate white people" any more than Bill Bennett can say...") complete devoid of an actual reference to the history of What Has Been Done... Well, let's just say those types of RACE MANAGEMENT perspectives are "unproductive."
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    MBM:

    Please tell us WHAT YOUR VIEWS ON THE MAN'S STATEMENT? (you being the one who started the thread)

    Were they inappropriate in your view OR in light of the history of the killing that WHITE PEOPLE have done in the past THEIR OFFSPRING should suffer such a fate?
    Your Question Asking Privileges.... are REVOKED!!!

    You can either respond to this thread, posting your views, first (and actually talk about the actual "fate" White people ARE subjected to and reasonably will after such a statement), or you can STFU!!

    Your options are clear. A person posting a thread and especially a moderator need not comment on a subject (that's in the news) to post it. There is no such duty or obligation. And considering how you don't honor any such duty or obligation with respect to things you post, present and promote... then the last thing that should ever come out of your cyber-mouth is a question directed to someone else with the expectation that they should or have to answer something you posed.


    I GOT YOUR WOLF TICKETS!
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    Now the question is if you decided to follow dumbass'suggestion, how do we determine who is white and who is black. Is skin colour enough? Is it just the pure white folks who get the shiv? Who determines what.

    Dude, you are Slippin' Into Darkness. Now, I'll say something a little off, but true. Your statement is about as warranted as Kambon's. Point being, for a number of reasons (some of which have been expressed in this thread), there is NO QUESTION. There is no "large contingency of devotees" or [significantly] small ones. Otherwise this would not be news.

    And I'd be damned if I haven't heard of Kambon or his invisible minions DOING anything on that order...

    After many years of watching the wickedness of man, I do not take for granted that folks will see that which is evil. It is up to everyone to point to the devil and say "That be some evil shit!!" or we run the risk of some dumbass saying hey I don't think he's so bad. The devil just has some bad press. The advocacy of genocide must be denounced as every turn or we put our families and selves at risk of extermination.
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    The advocacy of genocide must be denounced as every turn or we put our families and selves at risk of extermination.
    Please spare me the selective outrage...

    There are white supremacists, no doubt, talking about Race Wars and mass genocide on the daily yet there are few if any people pointing out every individual who has voiced such sentiments. So, again, please spare me.

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    if you decided to follow dumbass'suggestion
    The point was and still is... that no one here took Kambon's words as a suggestion or license to commit genocide or violence. So, again, your comments were UNWARRANTED. And they for sure were not words that highlighted some great impending evil. You figured this gave you an opportunity to wax stupidly and you seized it.

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    how do we determine who is white and who is black. Is skin colour enough?
    Like I said, SLIPPIN' INTO DARKNESS! Funny how for someone who wants to feign outrage over the comments you have no problem entertaining the idea. Entertaining it enough to consider who would "qualify"...

    AMAZING...
    Nmaginate

    Please save me the sand box analysis of my intent.

    Clearly you did not understand the point I was trying to make re who qualifies because you were too busy waiting to find someone to criticize in order to make yourself appear smarter than you really are. Good job give youself a pat on the back tfro

    I really hope I was able to raise your self-importance as clearly you are wanting.

    It is my right to denounce that which I think is clearly wrong.

    So how about focusing on the topic and not on breaking down those who want to participate regardless of writing style?
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    I really hope I was able to raise your self-importance as clearly you are wanting.

    It is my right to denounce that which I think is clearly wrong.
    And, though I'm still searching... I see no restrictions on my "right" to comment on things presented here.

    And my criticism wasn't about your style... it was about your LACK of substance.

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    Another example of becoming what you hate by doing what has been done to you.
    What act, resembling what "HAS BEEN DONE" [one thing requiring specification/definition], was DONE? What ACT symbolize this "becoming what you hate" idea you came up with?

    And, also [another thing requiring specifics/defintion], what is the "HATED" thing/being that the subject has "become"?

    It's just that simple. Identify that stuff and then demonstrate how that stuff is "equivalent"... as you clearly suggested. And... ummm... I've long since "focused on the topic." But since you wanted to say something you obviously can't sustain, I'm focusing on what you said, since you don't seem to have a grasp of the topic.

    Yes! It's my overriding sense of self-importance. For some reason, I kinda of like it when people say things that Add Up. Imagine that...
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    Originally posted by Faheem:
    This all makes me think of Eddie Murphy on SNL....

    KILL THE WHITE PEOPLE!!

    haha...



    Makes me think of when Jay Leno said:

    KILL ALL THE NIGGAS!

    Wait... he couldn't have said that! If he did he would have been led away to the gallows and executed!

    The post-modern unwritten rule: Blacks can make any racial slurs they want against whites. Whites must suffer opprobrium and even death for making the slighest racial slur against blacks.
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    Originally posted by EgbertSouse:

    The post-modern unwritten rule: Blacks can make any racial slurs they want against whites. Whites must suffer opprobrium and even death for making the slighest racial slur against blacks.


    Do you think that the context for a white person saying that is the same as for a black person ES?
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    Originally posted by EgbertSouse:

    Makes me think of when Jay Leno said:

    KILL ALL THE NIGGAS!

    Wait... he couldn't have said that! If he did he would have been led away to the gallows and executed!

    The post-modern unwritten rule: Blacks can make any racial slurs they want against whites. Whites must suffer opprobrium and even death for making the slighest racial slur against blacks.


    Maybe because it was both socially acceptable and the law to dehumanize, slur, disrespect blacks at all times of the day, bomb their churches, kill/rape/maim their children, especially boys because they're considered as men after 10 years of age or older (e.g. Emmett Till) and be acquitted for their murders, due to white skin privilege.
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    Originally posted by MBM:
    Do you think that the context for a white person saying that is the same as for a black person ES?


    MBM,

    That's a tricky question. When Eddie Murphy espouses killing all whites during an SNL skit, the majority of reasonable viewers of any race realize, although he's pushing the envelope a bit, he's still kidding. I remember one old SNL skit back in the late 70s with Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor in which Chase used the n-word several times. I don't recall any black backlash then. Folks knew it was satire.

    On the other hand, when the likes of Kambon called for the extermination of whites in front of a college audience, I believe not too many whites chuckled. As I imagine not many blacks would if the imperial wizard of the klan (or whatever he's called) sought the extermination of blacks.

    I think, as you said, it boils down to context.
    quote:
    Originally posted by Huey:
    Maybe because it was both socially acceptable and the law to dehumanize, slur, disrespect blacks at all times of the day, bomb their churches, kill/rape/maim their children, especially boys because they're considered as men after 10 years of age or older (e.g. Emmett Till) and be acquitted for their murders, due to white skin privilege.



    Yeah, and maybe today it's socially acceptable and the law for the likes of a black O.J. Simpson to murder two white people in cold blood and be acquitted due to his wealth, brown skin privilege and the need for payback.

    (P.S. - Please don't respond with that shaggy crap about whites needing to "get over" the O.J. murders. When blacks get over the death of Emmett "I shoulda been whistling Dixie" Till, I'm sure whitey will oblige and stop bringing up O.J.)
    Context always plays a part.

    Humour is an avenue that is sometimes used to introduce rather unsavoury ideas.

    such as "Nmaginate can't add" Wink
    (some will get it, others may not)

    The problem is not everyone has the same level or sense of humour. Or a sense of the ironic.

    Humour also softens the sting of criticism about certain issues and people tend to be more receptive to the ideas than if they were preached at by a pompous windbag.

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