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With the loss of the three decades old US inner city manufacturing sector where once large numbers of black folk where employed, the contemporary shifting of US jobs over seas where labor is cheap by companies like Boeing and Nike and the constant and persistent influx of immigrants from places like Mexico and the Caribbean who are more than happy to work for less, - well, so as long as black high school and college graduations rates remain below 50%, - high black unemployment rates will continue and also remain high.  

 

Would somebody please let the Congressional Black Caucus know that equal focus should be placed on getting black youth educated rather than competing with foreign immigrants for low wage employment!  This is an endeavor that will require the full and complete cooperation and coordination of every black institution in the United States, - including the Church!  For those black folk with College degrees it means that you may have to uproot from your beloved south and head west or north or even Alaska if that is where the jobs are!

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I, too, agree wholeheartedly.

 

However ... unfortunately, it's not just our "youth" for whom proper job-training education is lacking.  There are a LARGE number of Black young adults, in their 20s and early 30s .... with whom this unconscionable "dropout rate" began (a generation or so ago) who are effectively "unemployable" and are part of whom the CBC and others are trying to concentrate their job creation efforts that we should not forget about, as well.

 

Trying to keep "kids" in school is one thing .... trying give 'young adults' - especially young black males - the means by which to earn an "honest living" to support themselves (and any kids/family they may be responsible for) is a whole other dilemma in itself.  And a BIG portion of that high Black unemployment rate reflects this "uneducated", "untrained", and "unemployable" group of already-past-high-school-aged-now-ADULT population.

 

And we really can't afford to let them just "drop off the cliff" ... and only concentrate on those behind them that, as you note, without the proper education, will only end up taking their place. 

 

However ... I do believe that, at least right now, there are options and avenues in place to more easily correct that situation than there is a solution to the dismal overall education system for our kids.

 

I believe our young adults need to be encouraged (by the CBC, you, me, and other Black organizations) to take advantage of NEW job training and self-employment programs being offered in community colleges and vocational schools, through funding and programs that President Obama has put in place.  If he doesn't get re-elected and a Republican takes his place, these opportunities will be the first thing to go under.

 

We NEED to be establishing our OWN businesses and companies (and selling bootleg DVDs on a street corner doesn't count! ) and retraining in new and upcoming technologies (such as "green" renewable energy, construction, and the manufacturing of 21st Century goods) which is already in the works as the new "wave of the future."

 

We can perhaps do a better job of saving our "youth" if we can find productive ways to save some of their "parents" first.    And I believe that that is part of the focus of the CBC's intense concentration on the high rate of "Black employment."  Even if the jobs were there .... we have so many of our people who would not be able to fill them ... due to being unqualified for such positions.

Originally Posted by SeptimusServerus/kraaal:

With the loss of the three decades old US inner city manufacturing sector where once large numbers of black folk where employed, the contemporary shifting of US jobs over seas where labor is cheap by companies like Boeing and Nike and the constant and persistent influx of immigrants from places like Mexico and the Caribbean who are more than happy to work for less, - well, so as long as black high school and college graduations rates remain below 50%, - high black unemployment rates will continue and also remain high.  

 

Would somebody please let the Congressional Black Caucus know that equal focus should be placed on getting black youth educated rather than competing with foreign immigrants for low wage employment!  This is an endeavor that will require the full and complete cooperation and coordination of every black institution in the United States, - including the Church!  For those black folk with College degrees it means that you may have to uproot from your beloved south and head west or north or even Alaska if that is where the jobs are!


The pitiful thing is you actually think the above makes sense.

 

1. Who says that black youth are competing with foreign immigrants? Most black youth do not want a job therefore they are not looking for a job.

 

2. What do you mean by "getting black youth educated"? What does that mean? And when one gets educated what are they to do?

 

3. What is wrong with obtaining low wage employment and then working your way up? Isn't that what many people do?

Originally Posted by MaynardJ:

Has anybody ever considered that business people do not want to hire people from an ethnic group that portrays itself as a bunch of low life degenerates?

 

 

This is corp. amerikkka at it's very best!! (how it 'works' and)

 

The perfect example of a diseased european pathology at it's rancid zenith!! 

 

(take note...)

 

It's FILTH is underwhelming.....

Originally Posted by roarin1:
Originally Posted by MaynardJ:

Has anybody ever considered that business people do not want to hire people from an ethnic group that portrays itself as a bunch of low life degenerates?

 

 

This is corp. amerikkka at it's very best!! (how it 'works' and)

 

The perfect example of a diseased european pathology at it's rancid zenith!! 

 

(take note...)

 

It's FILTH is underwhelming.....


Well that's what happens when you mix homosapien genes with neandertals. (Re: Michael Bradley "Iceman Inheritance") Nearly 40% of them are diagnosed with mental illness, who knows how many are crazy and undiagnosed.  I said all that to say that THEIR scientists say this European pathology is genetically based and unnatural, just like them.

 

I think that the fact that Republicans have been in charge of the country for 20 of those past 30 years, and 30 of the past 40 years has a LOT more to do with the reason why Black people are STILL on the bottom of the American totem pole ... than Obama's mere 2 1/2 years in office. 

 

It's not like he sunk us THAT much lower.  We were already in the toilet, being flushed, and swirling down the hole.

 

True .... He may not have thrown us a life preserver .... but he didn't pull the handle, either. 

ER,

America is NOT a dictatorship. One cannot simply look at the party of the Presidency and say that the party is in control. One has to look at the co-equal branch of government, the congress, as well. That said, the two party system in America has reached the point of diminishing returns overall and in particular for black folks. Black people vote for the Democratic party simply out of civil rights tradition and the fact that the republican party is the greater of two evils. The democratic party has moved closer and closer to where the republican party is in regards to blacks, yet, we still live off the old tradition and hope that the democratic party will deliver much more for blacks than the Republican Party. Hence, the democratic Party has attracted more independent white votes because they were willing to move more to the center in regards to issues relating to blacks, while continuing to get the black vote. The black vote is captive to the two party system because blacks essentialy are not voting for a party, but rather, voting against the republican party and the only way to do that is to vote for the democratic party. This means that the democratic party has to offer nothing to blacks for their vote. The next election the campaign for the black vote, by the Dems, will not be one in which they tell the masses how much they have done for blacks, but rather, how blacks should fear the Republicans and the tea party getting power.

Originally Posted by EbonyRose:

I think that the fact that Republicans have been in charge of the country for 20 of those past 30 years, and 30 of the past 40 years has a LOT more to do with the reason why Black people are STILL on the bottom of the American totem pole ... than Obama's mere 2 1/2 years in office. 

 

It's not like he sunk us THAT much lower.  We were already in the toilet, being flushed, and swirling down the hole.

 

True .... He may not have thrown us a life preserver .... but he didn't pull the handle, either. 

 

 

Here Sis ROSE I totally agree.

 

It wouldv'e taken a much bigger man than Obama to turn the momentum of conservative societal pillaging around. It would've taken a real-life (good old fashioned) 'super-hero'.

 

I'M convinced of that.

 

(has anybody spotted any U.F.O'S or caped crusaders around? Then....Houston has got a serious problem!!)

@ Roarin1 ..... "conservative societal pillaging" ... I can't think of a more PERFECT phrase for what happens during a Republican Administration than THAT!!! 

 

 

@ NTA .... Black people SHOULD be afraid of the election of a Republican/Tea Party government.  In fact, they BETTER be afraid ... VERY afraid!!!    Because the second a Republican president takes that oath, Black people can start kissing their ASSETS goodbye!!    Any financial, economic, societal, educational, civil rights or communal benefits they may own or have gained along the way are going to be the FIRST on the chopping block.  And by the time that Administration is over ... they are going to be left with as LITTLE as is humanly possible for Republicans to take.

 

At only 14% of the population ... and an even smaller percentage of the voting rolls - due to racist disenfranchisement efforts that erode the meager political power that we MIGHT be able to muster - Black people DO NOT - HAVE NEVER - AND NEVER WILL have a strong enough political OFFENSE to be able to control who wins or loses in presidential elections.

 

Therefore, the only intelligent, rational, reasonable, enlightened, and effective thing we CAN do is to DEFEND ourselves from the "conservative societal pillaging" (Thank you, again, Roarin1!!  ) we KNOW is going to be aimed at and dropped on our heads like a lead balloon ... on Day 1 .. and continue to get worse from that day forward!!!

 

 

I THANK GOD Black people aren't as stupid as you think we should be. 

Maybe you have not seen the writing on the wall ER, but the 14 trillion debt, and the 55 trillion debts in unfunded liabilities means that the ERA of great social spending and programs is going to come to an end. America will have to adopt austerity measures as socialistic Europe nations have are doing, the chagrin of the masses.


The truth of the matter is that the Capital in Capitalism is most profoundly controlled by those who favor low wages, low regulation and low taxes, in order that they can convert that capital into profits. In other words, capital is basically in the hands of conservatives and people who favor the Republican Party. The primary working class folks and poor who make up the Democratic Party are dependent upon those with Capital to create jobs. The owners of capital are NOT captive, but those employed by Capitalist are captive. Hence, the nation cannot shift the burden of the national debt to the rich and expect that they will not shift their capital oversees where it has less resistance to profit.


Every action creates an equal and opposite reaction. For every credit there is an offsetting debit. The Democrats know that social and entitlement spending cannot be maintained given the demographic changes and changes in natural resources and the growth of economic powers like China. However, the Democratic Party is not viable unless it defends these social programs because their base will stay home if they compromise these programs. As much as they try to transfer the debt payment to the Rich, the Rich have power and options, like they always have had. The idea that the weak masses can transfer the burden of debt to the Rich and Powerful is really ludicrous. Even if the weak masses succeeded politically the Rich would simply use their power, influence and options to side step the burden and the burden and impact would fall right back on the weak masses.


We need to stop living in “If Land or Ifghanistan”.  We need to stop talking about how all this could be fixed IF the rich paid this or IF the Republican did that. They WILL NOT, for reasons that I mentioned previously. The debt will force smaller government and if not we can expect hyper-inflation as the FED is forced to buy BONDS to keep our government running, by simply printing money from nothing. This is part of the reason that the Democratic Party has jettisoned the struggle for racial equality. The Party has to move to the Center and the “Center” is actually shifting to the Right thanks to the Debt and the Tea party.  Notice how many radical far right people were elected to congress, without an offset of far left people being elected on the other side. The writing is on the wall. We are going to catch hell regardless.  

 

Pretty soon way will be voting for politicans who are in essence DINO (Democrat in name only).

"Originally Posted by MaynardJ:

Has anybody ever considered that business people do not want to hire people from an ethnic group that portrays itself as a bunch of low life degenerates?"

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JACKASS, THE MOVIE

HORDERS

ANIMAL HORDERS

TEMPTATION ISLAND

JERRY SPRINGER

GIRLS GONE WILD

METH WARS

COCK FIGHTING

COPS

THE MAURY SHOW

ETC., ETC.,  

 

 

 

 

Except Austerity Measures aren't working for the European countries either.  Greece, Spain, Ireland, and Italy not to mention England have all adopted Austerity measures which wind up suppressing the actual growth of their economies and thus it's a self-defeating cycle to enforce "austerity" on the people, but not on corporations.

 

One thing the European working stiffs do is PROTEST.  They get in the streets and get vocal about the politicians, but we here in america are not too willing to do that.

I think people, the masses, need to be clear on one particular point about the economic situation in the West.  There is going to be, has to be, a radical reduction in the standard of living of the West. Now, the only issue is how hard we land.


Austerity measure will not return economies to growth and the apex of prosperity. The West will NEVER again enjoy the standard of living that it achieved prior to the Great Recession, on a per capita basis. Austerity measures, at their best, are designed to prevent total economic collapse in the not too distant future.


One has to remember that one cannot perpetually borrow from their future to finance their standard of living in the present. In other words, what happens in the economic model where the present is credited and the future is debited?  It’s akin to a person who has just about reached retirement, who lost their job, but who had accumulated savings to sustain themselves through retirement. If that person does not adopt austerity measures, currently, to reduce their consumption that is now financed from borrowing from retirement funds (their future), when that person finally reaches retirement life will be hell.


 You see the truth is that politicians and the nature of politics in America will almost ensure that the near future will be much worse than the present. Why? It’s because austerity measures are not only unpopular with the masses, but it also reduces economic growth, which will ensure that the incumbent party will be thrown out of office. These austerity measures are needed to control our economic descent and prevent panic and crash. If not, things continue to get out of control which will cause a panic crash. When the public panics, the economic crisis will be much worse than mathematically needed.


Austerity measures, in my opinion, have to reduce growth. Why? The reason being is that our economic growth has to be returned to being a product of earnings, savings and investment…….and not debt. What if your income was steadily declining but your credit limit was steadily rising and you maintained, if not increased, your consumption? Soon, if you did not file bankruptcy, all your earnings would have to go to pay the interest and principle on your debt. You would have nothing to spend on new consumption. As a nation, when there is nothing to spend on new consumption then production collapses followed by employment collapses. Hence, austerity measures are simply reducing deficit spending and yes the impact reduces growth as debt based growth needs to be reduced for solvency of the economy. 


 

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