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A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore


To All My Fellow Americans Who Voted for George W. Bush:

On this, the fourth anniversary of 9/11, I'm just curious, how does it feel?

How does it feel to know that the man you elected to lead us after we were attacked went ahead and put a guy in charge of FEMA whose main qualification was that he ran horse shows?

That's right. Horse shows.

I really want to know -- and I ask you this in all sincerity and with all due respect -- how do you feel about the utter contempt Mr. Bush has shown for your safety? C'mon, give me just a moment of honesty. Don't start ranting on about how this disaster in New Orleans was the fault of one of the poorest cities in America. Put aside your hatred of Democrats and liberals and anyone with the last name of Clinton. Just look me in the eye and tell me our President did the right thing after 9/11 by naming a horse show runner as the top man to protect us in case of an emergency or catastrophe.

I want you to put aside your self-affixed label of Republican/conservative/born-again/capitalist/ditto-head/right-winger and just talk to me as an American, on the common ground we both call America.

Are we safer now than before 9/11? When you learn that behind the horse show runner, the #2 and #3 men in charge of emergency preparedness have zero experience in emergency preparedness, do you think we are safer?

When you look at Michael Chertoff, the head of Homeland Security, a man with little experience in national security, do you feel secure?

When men who never served in the military and have never seen young men die in battle send our young people off to war, do you think they know how to conduct a war? Do they know what it means to have your legs blown off for a threat that was never there?

Do you really believe that turning over important government services to private corporations has resulted in better services for the people?

Why do you hate our federal government so much? You have voted for politicians for the past 25 years whose main goal has been to de-fund the federal government. Do you think that cutting federal programs like FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers has been good or bad for America? GOOD OR BAD?

With the nation's debt at an all-time high, do you think tax cuts for the rich are still a good idea? Will you give yours back so hundreds of thousands of homeless in New Orleans can have a home?

Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by how we treat the least among us? Hurricane Katrina came in and blew off the facade that we were a nation with liberty and justice for all. The wind howled and the water rose and what was revealed was that the poor in America shall be left to suffer and die while the President of the United States fiddles and tells them to eat cake.

That's not a joke. The day the hurricane hit and the levees broke, Mr. Bush, John McCain and their rich pals were stuffing themselves with cake. A full day after the levees broke (the same levees whose repair funding he had cut), Mr. Bush was playing a guitar some country singer gave him. All this while New Orleans sank under water.

It would take ANOTHER day before the President would do a flyover in his jumbo jet, peeking out the widow at the misery 2500 feet below him as he flew back to his second home in DC. It would then be TWO MORE DAYS before a trickle of federal aid and troops would arrive. This was no seven minutes in a sitting trance while children read "My Pet Goat" to him. This was FOUR DAYS of doing nothing other than saying "Brownie (FEMA director Michael Brown), you're doing a heck of a job!"

My Republican friends, does it bother you that we are the laughing stock of the world?

And on this sacred day of remembrance, do you think we honor or shame those who died on 9/11/01? If we learned nothing and find ourselves today every bit as vulnerable and unprepared as we were on that bright sunny morning, then did the 3,000 die in vain?

Our vulnerability is not just about dealing with terrorists or natural disasters. We are vulnerable and unsafe because we allow one in eight Americans to live in horrible poverty. We accept an education system where one in six children never graduate and most of those who do can't string a coherent sentence together. The middle class can't pay the mortgage or the hospital bills and 45 million have no health coverage whatsoever.

Are we safe? Do you really feel safe? You can only move so far out and build so many gated communities before the fruit of what you've sown will be crashing through your walls and demanding retribution. Do you really want to wait until that happens? Or is it your hope that if they are left alone long enough to soil themselves and shoot themselves and drown in the filth that fills the street that maybe the problem will somehow go away?

I know you know better. You gave the country and the world a man who wasn't up for the job and all he does is hire people who aren't up for the job. You did this to us, to the world, to the people of New Orleans. Please fix it. Bush is yours. And you know, for our peace and safety and security, this has to be fixed. What do you propose?

I have an idea, and it isn't a horse show.

Yours,
Michael Moore
http://www.michaelmoore.com
mmflint@aol.com

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Originally posted by MBM:

A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

You gave the country and the world a man who wasn't up for the job and all he does is hire people who aren't up for the job. You did this to us, to the world, to the people of New Orleans. Please fix it. Bush is yours. And you know, for our peace and safety and security, this has to be fixed.


The really, really, REALLY bad news is that it won't be fixed until January 20, 2009. By that time, we'll all be sharecroppers or begging on the street. Or, the world will be some vast wasteland populated by beetles, cockroaches, and shellfish.

Even if he managed to somehow get himself impeached, look who we have waiting in the wings.
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Oh I don't know. Seems to me the man handled those 4 big hurricane crisis just last summer and we didn't hear a single complaint during those disasters. So the man was capable of handling disasters.
Of course, in those cases, he didn't have a governor who was more interested in protecting her own power than helping people.

Prediction: the political accusations against FEMA and Bush go by the wayside as soon as the taped conversation between Bush and Blanco is played for the public, or for the congress, and a majority of people come to realize what really went on as the actual details come out. 3 of the major players, Red Cross, Salvation Army, and FEMA have already complained that it was Blanco who held them back from coming into the city.

Thats 3 against 0.

We already know that Blanco refused to turn over operations to FEMA before the storm, didn't send her Natl Guard in with any real gusto, and despite pleas from Bush and FEMA to turn over operations to the Feds, stood firm and resented having her power upsurped.

Interesting to note, that for the last several days, Bush is seen with Nagin, and the attitude is cooperative and cordial. While Blanco is nowhere to be seen.

So in the end, in an objective prediction, it will have been just another froth fest attempting to politicize a tragedy, and the democrats will lose this one as they've lost most of their attempts over the last few years. Congressional elections aren't until next year, by then the facts will have come out, and the political gains, if any, will be fractional. If Louisiana's residents have any brains, they'll no relected Blanco, but the state is so corrupt I wouldn't count on that.

But thats just me.......

The good news is that the death tolls were hugely overestimated.
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Oh I don't know. Seems to me the man handled those 4 big hurricane crisis just last summer and we didn't hear a single complaint during those disasters. So the man was capable of handling disasters.

The good news is that the death tolls were hugely overestimated.


None of those hurricanes were a cat.5.....aiming for a city, thats way below sea level.

......And your point is moot, 100 deaths, or 1000 deaths, it doesnt matter, someone should be held accountable.
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Originally posted by jefftec:

Mr MBM,

Level with us, it's not about Bush at all is it?
Could it be his potential successor to the White House?



Ummm, I think the letter is from a different Michael Moore.
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Popcorn,
I used the link provided and the website suggests that it is the same Michael Moore of Fahrenheit 911 fame.


Then why are you asking me? Confused
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Originally posted by jefftec:
sorry:

The link
http://www.michaelmoore.com/



I guess I'm confused. Maybe you could explain your original questions and how they relate to the letter. Are you questioning MBM's purpose in posting the letter or did you believe he wrote it? If it's the first, than the mistake is mine.

Later: Nevermind. If you believed he wrote it, you wouldn't have said "Michael Moore of Fahrenheit 911". Sorry. Still don't understand the questions, though, since MBM didn't write the letter.
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Originally posted by jefftec:
MBM and Popcorn,

sorry for the confusion.
I was aware that MBM posted a letter drafted by Micheal Moore. M.Moore has had a problem with Bush and his politics.
I inquired as to what would have prompted you (MBM) to post his article.


I understand the confusion - particularly since my name is . . . Michael Moore also.

I posted it, as I do many here, as a thought provoker; to incite comment - either support or criticism.
100 deaths, or 1000 deaths, it doesnt matter, someone should be held accountable.

And I do. Her name was Katrina.


Oh, now let me do my mike moore, er eh, mbm, or whoever he is, imitation for ya:

"qty226, you should by ashamed yourself! to say 900 less deaths 'doesn't matter'. Maybe you and michael moo.. um, I mean mbm, or whoever, WANTED more deaths in New Orleans, I mean what other conclusion does one draw from the anger at good news on the one hand, and the dismissiveness of lives not lost on the other"

(yes, I'm kidding. I would never take the regurgitated hatefest at this site all that seriously, the confusion here is truly a sight to behold)
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How does it feel to know that the man you elected to lead us after we were attacked went ahead and put a guy in charge of FEMA whose main qualification was that he ran horse shows?
What is not said is if the experience that Mr Brown had was bereft of any disaster relief/recovery administration procedures.
However, somewhere in this recent tragedy....he was apparently in trouble and in over his head.

This also reminds me of another situation with a prospective Sec. of Homeland Security a year or so ago, where he was appointed by the president and then had to walk away from the appointment because of a technicality.

Makes me wonder if they do exact due diligence in the background checks that they do there.
Bush personally isn't doing them. How the writer can blame him for appointing him ...I don't know.
Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by how we treat the least among us? Hurricane Katrina came in and blew off the facade that we were a nation with liberty and justice for all. The wind howled and the water rose and what was revealed was that the poor in America shall be left to suffer and die while the President of the United States fiddles and tells them to eat cake.
That just hits below the belt. The Writer questions the value systems of Bush Supporters...now that's not right.
There are very few places on this planet, if any, that provide support for the poor like the US.
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There are very few places on this planet, if any, that provide support for the poor like the US.
Confused

This complicates your view... your curious perception:
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NOTHING better encapsulates the different attitudes of America and Europe to the poor than a table towards the end of Alberto Alesina's and Edward Glaeser's remarkable book*, due to be published later this month. It compares the prevalence of three beliefs: that the poor are trapped in poverty; that luck determines income; and that the poor are lazy. The first is held by only 29% of Americans but by 60% of citizens of the European Union; the second, by 30% of Americans and 54% of Europeans; and the third, by contrast, by 60% of Americans and 24% of Europeans...

They begin with the observation that America and Europe differ strikingly in their willingness to allow government to redistribute income from rich to poor. Government spending in the United States is about 30% of GDP; in continental Europe, where it includes most health-care spending, it is about 45%. Almost two-thirds of this spending is on welfare...

http://www.economist.com/finance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2498947
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"qty226, you should by ashamed yourself! to say 900 less deaths doesn't matter"



I don't really think this is what qty226 said. These are your words, not hers. What she said was...

"100 deaths, or 1000 deaths, it doesn't matter, someone should be held accountable."

The object of this sentence is 'accountable', that is 'accountability'. Implied is that there must be an accounting for even a single death. She is not comparing numbers here, not comparing deaths. She is saying there is a need for "accountability".

I've asked you before in your posts to try and understand meaning. It's really not that difficult. It seems that the confusion here is yours.
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Originally posted by jefftec:

Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by how we treat the least among us? Hurricane Katrina came in and blew off the facade that we were a nation with liberty and justice for all. The wind howled and the water rose and what was revealed was that the poor in America shall be left to suffer and die while the President of the United States fiddles and tells them to eat cake.
That just hits below the belt. The Writer questions the value systems of Bush Supporters...now that's not right.
There are very few places on this planet, if any, that provide support for the poor like the US.


HUH? Confused Doesn't what's happened in New Orleans severely contradict this contention? SOmething like a quarter of all children in this country live beneath the poverty line. There are plenty of places on this earth that do not allow that to happen.

Beyond that, if Christianity and following the Bible are supposed to be central to how they view the world and operate their lives, then why isn't it fair game to question why they coveniently forget about "the least among us"?
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Originally posted by jefftec:

Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by how we treat the least among us? Hurricane Katrina came in and blew off the facade that we were a nation with liberty and justice for all. The wind howled and the water rose and what was revealed was that the poor in America shall be left to suffer and die while the President of the United States fiddles and tells them to eat cake.
That just hits below the belt. The Writer questions the value systems of Bush Supporters...now that's not right.
There are very few places on this planet, if any, that provide support for the poor like the US.


Why is it not right. Bush supporters favor reduced governmental social spending. Bush supporters favor exploitation of land, resources and people in the name of profit. Bush supporters favor "Wars on [Just about everything]", both figuratively and literally. Bush supporters favor "support for the [world-wide] poor" only if those poor happen to have oil, diamonds, or other items of national interest. [Remember, Bush had to be shamed into providing support to non-oil, non-diamond producing, non-player in the oil rich Middle East, indoneasia after the tsunami.

All of which has led us into the mess we find ourselves, domestically and world-wide.

So, I think his questioning of Bush supporters' value system is appropriate.
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Bush supporters are not a monolith. There are plenty of people who voted for Bush because they agree with him on what they consider to be key issues, not because they endorse his entire line of thinking or everything he intends to do. I can't get down with this letter at all.
by Frenchy

I'm sorry, my friend, but what are you talking about. Bush has not been secretive in his abhorrence of the poor. His policies in the preceeding 4 years clearly pointed out his administrations position. Any vote for this administration in 2004, signalled an approval of his policies that have gotten us to the sad state we find ourselves in.
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Originally posted by Frenchy:

Bush supporters are not a monolith. There are plenty of people who voted for Bush because they agree with him on what they consider to be key issues, not because they endorse his entire line of thinking or everything he intends to do. I can't get down with this letter at all.


What in the letter do you disagree with?
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Bush has not been secretive in his abhorrence of the poor. His policies in the preceeding 4 years clearly pointed out his administrations position. Any vote for this administration in 2004, signalled an approval of his policies that have gotten us to the sad state we find ourselves in.


Come on, Kweli4Real. Casting a vote for one of the major candidates today is about choosing the lesser of two evils. Most people who go to the polls do so to vote for the candidate that meshes with what they consider to be the most important issues. For some that is abortion. For some that is the economy. For some that is military spending. For others it is religion. You take the good with the bad. A have quite a few friends who are staunchly against the Death Penalty, as am I. They cast their vote in 2000 for Gore, though he did not feel the same way. You could not go on to accurately categorize them as being supporters of the Death Penalty because of the way they voted. This is but one issue. The same can be said for many others.
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What in the letter do you disagree with?


It just reeks of all that "Red State"/"Blue State" bullshit of making sweeping generalizations about people. It's not accurate.


Friend, what, that Moore wrote, was not - in your opinion - accurate? Are you letting who wrote the piece and, perhaps, the way it was written, impact your perception of what was written? I'll go back and read it again, but my memory suggests that generalizations were not made, but specific accusations about Bush decisions and policy.

I could be wrong though . . .
Let's examine what was written:

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How does it feel to know that the man you elected to lead us after we were attacked went ahead and put a guy in charge of FEMA whose main qualification was that he ran horse shows?


This is true.

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Just look me in the eye and tell me our President did the right thing after 9/11 by naming a horse show runner as the top man to protect us in case of an emergency or catastrophe.


Seems like a fair question to me.


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Are we safer now than before 9/11? When you learn that behind the horse show runner, the #2 and #3 men in charge of emergency preparedness have zero experience in emergency preparedness, do you think we are safer?


Again, isn't this a fair question? Would you appoint someone as a manager of McDonald's who didn't know anything about flipping burgers?


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When men who never served in the military and have never seen young men die in battle send our young people off to war, do you think they know how to conduct a war? Do they know what it means to have your legs blown off for a threat that was never there?


You have to admit that the fact that Colin Powell, the only one inside the Bush administration with combat/military experience, was the most vocal about being cautious in our escapade into Iraq might not be a complete coincidence.

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Do you really believe that turning over important government services to private corporations has resulted in better services for the people?


As we know, Halliburton has defrauded the government on a number of occassions and to the extent of millions of millions of dollars. Fair question here?

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Do you think that cutting federal programs like FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers has been good or bad for America? GOOD OR BAD?


While provocative, in light of Katrina isn't this also a good and fair question?

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With the nation's debt at an all-time high, do you think tax cuts for the rich are still a good idea? Will you give yours back so hundreds of thousands of homeless in New Orleans can have a home?


Laced with sarcasm perhaps, but an honest question about Bush's view on taxation and whether it makes sense for an America that sometimes needs its government to do things.

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Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by how we treat the least among us?


I am certainly curious about the apparent extraordinary contradicition here.

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My Republican friends, does it bother you that we are the laughing stock of the world?


You have to admit, it is rather funny that we excepted $1 million from Bangladesh - one of the poorest countries on Earth.

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If we learned nothing and find ourselves today every bit as vulnerable and unprepared as we were on that bright sunny morning, then did the 3,000 die in vain? [/qwuote]

Again, seesms a fair question about the impact of 9/11 and how Bush has chosen to lead and prepare us for the next catastrophe.

[quote]We are vulnerable and unsafe because we allow one in eight Americans to live in horrible poverty. We accept an education system where one in six children never graduate and most of those who do can't string a coherent sentence together. The middle class can't pay the mortgage or the hospital bills and 45 million have no health coverage whatsoever.


Obviously this uncovers the guts of American politics, where one party - essentially - doesn't give a shit about the rest of Americans and is only out to line its pockets. I agree that the above is a problem.

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Or is it your hope that if they are left alone long enough to soil themselves and shoot themselves and drown in the filth that fills the street that maybe the problem will somehow go away?


This is a profound question that Americans should ponder as we allow people all over the world and all over our country to wallow in abject poverty.
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Originally posted by Frenchy:
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Bush has not been secretive in his abhorrence of the poor. His policies in the preceeding 4 years clearly pointed out his administrations position. Any vote for this administration in 2004, signalled an approval of his policies that have gotten us to the sad state we find ourselves in.


Come on, Kweli4Real. Casting a vote for one of the major candidates today is about choosing the lesser of two evils. Most people who go to the polls do so to vote for the candidate that meshes with what they consider to be the most important issues. For some that is abortion. For some that is the economy. For some that is military spending. For others it is religion. You take the good with the bad. A have quite a few friends who are staunchly against the Death Penalty, as am I. They cast their vote in 2000 for Gore, though he did not feel the same way. You could not go on to accurately categorize them as being supporters of the Death Penalty because of the way they voted. This is but one issue. The same can be said for many others.


**So you telling me people are soooo fucking dumb that they will forgo their own economic benefits and the economic condition of the country just to impose THEIR value systems on others? Boy I see why W ended up their leader.....Dumb and Dumber.....americans need to concentrate on what affects THEM personally and let people do whatever the f-k they want to in terms of abortions, gay marriage, not praying, etc.......those are personal value systems and should not be dictated to people by others not even related to their lives in any way......dumbazz single issue people.....I had this stupid white girl at the office talk that abortion schit...and when I showed her how the people she support do not even support equal pay for women and expanding of domestic abuse laws to protect her azz......she just sat there with this lost azz look on her face.......geesh...
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Originally posted by JanesT:

The good news is that the death tolls were hugely overestimated.



Indeed. How extraordinarily insensitive and crass.

Is there such a thing as good news about death? If your child or relative was among the 250 that have been reported dead, would it be comforting and good news because the death toll was hugely overestimated?

The number 10,000 was just an arbitrary figure, a fiction that some uninformed politico pulled out of the air. It was a fantasy from the start because no one could know the real count. It was for the media or perhaps self-serving so that later someone could say, "Wow, the death toll was hugely overestimated".

And isn't it civilized to be able to talk about the dead as numbers. They're not individual people anymore. They're been dehumanized, counted, quantified into a nice neat sum.

In this world we live in, a single death means nothing to the disconnected. We've become so inured to death. But one death is too many if the dead person happens to be a family member, or someone you care about. It's too many considering all the lost possibilities, lost hope and joy. It's too many considering the loss to the family, to the community, perhaps to the world.
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**So you telling me people are soooo fucking dumb that they will forgo their own economic benefits and the economic condition of the country just to impose THEIR value systems on others? Boy I see why W ended up their leader.....Dumb and Dumber.....americans need to concentrate on what affects THEM personally and let people do whatever the f-k they want to in terms of abortions, gay marriage, not praying, etc.......

I had this stupid white girl at the office talk that abortion schit...and when I showed her how the people she support do not even support equal pay for women and expanding of domestic abuse laws to protect her azz......she just sat there with this lost azz look on her face.......geesh...


That's some story. Almost everybody in my office voted for Kerry; I almost feel like I'm missing something by not having these same types of encounters with these damn people. I really want to ask not some staunch right winger, but just the average American white person, how could you support this guy?? And screw Katrina; I've been wondering on this question for years.
Vox,

you haven't witnessed anything until you come across the black right-wingers (oxymoron) in person. They always start off with the anti-affirmative action spill and then follow it up with that black people are lazy and cause "their " own problems bullshit....when I get through with em..........they never have schit to say to or around me again...which is all I ask for......... Mad
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Vox,

you haven't witnessed anything until you come across the black right-wingers (oxymoron) in person. They always start off with the anti-affirmative action spill and then follow it up with that black people are lazy and cause "their " own problems bullshit....when I get through with em..........they never have schit to say to or around me again...which is all I ask for......... Mad


Oh c'mon K41 - you need to stop drinking the kool-aid from the liberal trough! Think for yourself. Stop being controlled by the liberal jack-leg no good Democrats! bs

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