Well while many outlets are finding ways of celebrating the start of Obamacare and highlighting the stupidity of republicans, here is what his administration is still pushing for. 

 

 

 

 

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"Everything is legal if the government can see you"-  KRS-ONE

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THIS IS DANGEROUS, UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND NO MORE THAN ANOTHER CORPORATE RAID ON AMERICA, AMERICAN LAWS, THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

AMERICANS ARE GOING TO BECOME EVEN MORE DISEASED, WORK FOR LOWER WAGES, HAVE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL AND LEGAL AND CIVIL RIGHT USURPED, AND THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS' DOLLARS WILL ONCE AGAIN BE USED TO BUILD UP THE ECONOMIES OF OTHER NATIONS RATHER THAN THE ECONOMY OF AMERICA'S TO THE DETRIMENT OF EVERYTHING FROM THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, TO INDIVIDUAL AMERICAN CITIZENS. 

 

GOODBYE AMERICA, IT BEEN NICE KNOWING YOU. 

 

[HOW PRESIDENT OBAMA AND ANYONE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION CAN BE A PARTY TO THIS, IF THAT IS TRULY THE CASE, IS BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION; IF PRESIDENT OBAMA DOES NOT VETO THIS, HIS LEGACY WILL BE LEFT IN THE SEWERS OF AMERICA AND THERE WILL NEVER, EVER BE ANOTHER BLACK PRESIDENT IN THIS NATION]. 

It’s over, folks! Current history: this IS what has already happened. It is a whole new era, a once unthinkable world. The US is the worldwide capitol of the Corporateocracy. Hear how other nations but not the US are ready to sign off! Obama serves the rulers. Power rules, of course!  All citizens are permanently demoted. We’re not dead yet as a democracy. A little progress may be made here and there but  make no mistake, there’s a new order putting yet more power into the world-destroying  hands of greedy and irresponsible idiots, our rulers. This is what we must deal with in figuring out how to survive and thrive. Time to face what is.  Keep your thinking hat on.

Originally Posted by sunnubian:

THIS IS DANGEROUS, UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND NO MORE THAN ANOTHER CORPORATE RAID ON AMERICA, AMERICAN LAWS, THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

AMERICANS ARE GOING TO BECOME EVEN MORE DISEASED, WORK FOR LOWER WAGES, HAVE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL AND LEGAL AND CIVIL RIGHT USURPED, AND THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS' DOLLARS WILL ONCE AGAIN BE USED TO BUILD UP THE ECONOMIES OF OTHER NATIONS RATHER THAN THE ECONOMY OF AMERICA'S TO THE DETRIMENT OF EVERYTHING FROM THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, TO INDIVIDUAL AMERICAN CITIZENS. 

 

GOODBYE AMERICA, IT BEEN NICE KNOWING YOU. 

 

[HOW PRESIDENT OBAMA AND ANYONE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION CAN BE A PARTY TO THIS, IF THAT IS TRULY THE CASE, IS BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION; IF PRESIDENT OBAMA DOES NOT VETO THIS, HIS LEGACY WILL BE LEFT IN THE SEWERS OF AMERICA AND THERE WILL NEVER, EVER BE ANOTHER BLACK PRESIDENT IN THIS NATION]. 

From the interview

 

Fast Track is an extraordinary delegation of Congress’s authority. So if we don’t want unsafe food, offshore jobs, SOPA, SOPA, SOPA, limits on Internet freedom, the banksters gettings rolled back into deregulation, we have to make sure that Congress actually maintains its constitutional authority to make sure that before this agreement can be signed, it actually works for us. Fast Track is a delegation of authority. President Obama has asked for it, but it only happens if Congress gives it to him.

 

This is part of the actions and behaviors of this (Obama's) Administration. This is one of many reasons why the old narrative of Obama vs. Do nothing Congress falls flat.  It is HE (Obama) that is asking for it, and it is HE (Obama) that his pushing in favor of these "trade policies". It is the Obama Administration that has doubled down on the secretive interpretations of the Constitution that even members of Congress are forbidden (by the administrations wishes) to discuss or even acknowledge.

 

 

The world has long passed the point where Obama will get a pass based on being a Black man in a white supremacist system. 

 

Hugo Chavez words on Obama's disappointment are worth looking up.  He, along with others, have set the stage for pushing back successfully against what people call "corporatism"

  I cannot imagine all this stuff will be authorized by America...especially the Congress allowing it.  I don't understand "SOPA is something Obama ask for...only if Congress gives it to him."  That does NOT make sense.  I have to progress this information first before I say anymore. It's a whole lot to consider and I want to make absolutely sure I comprehend everything said clearly.   But!

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  I cannot imagine all this stuff will be authorized by America...especially the Congress allowing it.  I don't understand "SOPA is something Obama ask for...only if Congress gives it to him."  That does NOT make sense.  I have to progress this information first before I say anymore. It's a whole lot to consider and I want to make absolutely sure I comprehend everything said clearly.   But!


Yes, I'm trying to locate information that really links President Obama, specifically, to any of this in the first place or that proves he even possesses any authority to do anything about it. 

 

SOPA has to do with our politicians colluding, again, with corporate America, to gain control over the Internet and Internet Freedom, under the guised of things like "copyright" infringement, etc.  It would be their way of controlling Information and the sharing and disclosure of Information.

 

It is incredible that the majority of American's cannot see or don't give a damn about what is really being done to do to this country, that America is at War with dirty politicians and fake patriots that are more than willing to sell America out to corporate America and a chosen few of the 1%.

 

America's politicians, legislators, Congress and the Supreme Court, have America on an auction block, being sold to the highest bidder.

Last edited by sunnubian
Originally Posted by sunnubian:
Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  I cannot imagine all this stuff will be authorized by America...especially the Congress allowing it.  I don't understand "SOPA is something Obama ask for...only if Congress gives it to him."  That does NOT make sense.  I have to progress this information first before I say anymore. It's a whole lot to consider and I want to make absolutely sure I comprehend everything said clearly.   But!


Yes, I'm trying to locate information are really links President Obama, specifically, to any of this in the first place or that proves he even possesses any authority to do anything about it. 

 

SOPA has to do with our politicians colluding, again, with corporate America, to gain control over the Internet and Internet Freedom, under the guised of things like "copyright" infringement, etc.  It would be their way of controlling Information and the sharing and disclosure of Information.

 

 

This is not about a "law" being debated or passed as suggest by the White House.  This is apart of a "trade agreement" where the laws are changed pursuant to the conditions of the trade agreement. 

 

I'd suggest Koko reviewing the clip again...Obama isn't asking for SOPA, he is requesting "fast track" which is itself an end run around congressional authority.  SOPA, among other things, is contained in a trade agreement (TPP).  He pushes the package that contains SOPA and it cannot be argued that he is unaware of its contents when its his administration that is requiring Congress members (who actually have constitutional authority in this matter) to NOT DISCLOSE what the administration allows them to see.

 

If you're looking to understand Obama's view on this, you need to look at his statements and attitude towards trade and his actions even before he was elected. 

 

His administration isn't pushing for this behind his back, he is the spokesperson for it. 

@Muhammad Cipher...By now you should know my name is spelled Koco,  In addition, I've already indicated what I have to do in this matter. Nothing more need to be said.  .

Originally Posted by sunnubian:
 
Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  I cannot imagine all this stuff will be authorized by America...especially the Congress allowing it.  I don't understand "SOPA is something Obama ask for...only if Congress gives it to him."  That does NOT make sense.  I have to progress this information first before I say anymore. It's a whole lot to consider and I want to make absolutely sure I comprehend everything said clearly.   But!


Yes, I'm trying to locate information are really links President Obama, specifically, to any of this in the first place or that proves he even possesses any authority to do anything about it. 

 

SOPA has to do with our politicians colluding, again, with corporate America, to gain control over the Internet and Internet Freedom, under the guised of things like "copyright" infringement, etc.  It would be their way of controlling Information and the sharing and disclosure of Information.

 

It is incredible that the majority of American's cannot see or don't give a damn about what is really being done to do to this country, that America is at War with dirty politicians and fake patriots that are more than willing to sell America out to corporate America and a chosen few of the 1%.

 

America's politicians, legislators, Congress and the Supreme Court, have America on an auction block, being sold to the highest bidder.

 

Congress's not being able to "disclose" any of this information or that the present administration or any entity in American being able to even make a deal that actually changes American Law in total secret, in and of itself is Unconstitutional in the first place. 

 

Congress or American Legislators cannot make secret laws or enact legislation that is not public information in the first place, and there is no way in hell Congress or any Legislator should be signing off on ANYTHING they do not know the contents of.  So, these claims of not being able to speak of ANYTHING that affects or changes or rescinds American Law(s) is no more than a LIE that the American public is being told and America's corporate-owned "main-stream" media has not intention of investigating on behalf of the American people or the welfare of the entire nation. 

 

This explains Congress's lack of involvement, and it says a LOT that Republicans have not been using this to crucify President Obama.   

 

 

Fast Track

 

An Undemocratic Path to Unfair “Trade”

Fast Track was an extreme and rarely-used procedure that empowered executive branch negotiators advised by large corporations to skirt Congress and the public and use “trade” agreements to rewrite policies that affect our daily lives – from the stability of our jobs to the safety of our food. Past “trade” deals rammed through Congress under Fast Track have empowered foreign corporations to attack domestic health and environmental policies, enabled pharmaceutical firms to raise medicine prices, and equipped banks with a tool to roll back financial regulation.

 

Under the U.S. Constitution, Congress is supposed to write the laws and set trade policy. For 200 years, these key checks and balances helped ensure that no one branch of government had too much power. But, over the last few decades, presidents have seized those congressional powers using the Fast Track mechanism.
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Fast Track has only been used 16 times in the history of our nation, often to enact the most controversial of “trade” pacts, such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the establishment of the World Trade Organization (WTO). Meanwhile, hundreds of less controversial U.S. trade agreements have been implemented without resort to Fast Track, showing that the extraordinary procedure is not needed to approve trade agreements.

Fast Track allowed the executive branch to unilaterally select partner countries for “trade” pacts, decide the agreements’ contents, and then negotiate and sign the agreements — all before Congress had a vote on the matter. Normal congressional committee processes were forbidden, meaning that the executive branch was empowered to write lengthy legislation on its own with no review or amendments. These executive-authored bills altered wide swaths of U.S. law unrelated to trade – food safety, immigration visas, energy policy, medicine patents and more – to conform our domestic policies to each agreement’s requirements. And, remarkably, Fast Track let the executive branch control Congress’ voting schedule. Unlike any other legislation, both the House and Senate were required to vote on a Fast Tracked trade agreement within 90 days of the White House submitting it. No floor amendments were allowed and debate was limited.

Because Fast Track’s dramatic shift in the balance of powers between branches of the U.S. government occurred via an arcane procedural mechanism, it obtained little scrutiny – until recently. Its use by Democratic and Republican presidents alike to seize Congress’ constitutional prerogatives, “diplomatically legislate” non-trade policy, and preempt state policy, has made it increasingly controversial.

A president cannot obtain Fast Track empowerment without a vote of Congress. President Clinton, renowned for trade expansion, only had Fast Track authority for two of his eight years in office due to congressional opposition. The last time Congress authorized Fast Track was in 2002, with a 3:30 am vote before a congressional recess in which the antiquated mechanism was approved by just three votes. Since 2007, Congress has refused to authorize this extreme procedure, even after its proponents tried to escape Fast Track’s bad reputation by renaming it “Trade Promotion Authority.”

As a candidate, President Obama said he would replace this anti-democratic process. But now he is asking Congress to grant him Fast Track’s extraordinary authority – in part to try to overcome growing public and congressional opposition to his controversial Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and Trans-Atlantic Free Trade Agreement (TAFTA) deals. To prevent an expansion of this unfair “trade” model, Congress must not allow the executive branch to once again gain Fast Track’s undemocratic powers.

 

. . . to be continued . . .

 

. . . Continued . . .

 

 

 

What is the History of Fast Track?

 

For over 60 years, the Congress and the President have recognized that  the  negotiations and implementation of trade agreements require special  cooperation.  In the aftermath of the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 and  the  Depression, both the Congress and the President recognized that only by  working  closely together could trade barriers be torn down and markets opened to  U.S.  goods.  This new attitude was first reflected in the Reciprocal Trade  Agreements of 1934, and has remained part of U.S. trade law ever since.

In recent years, as tariffs became less of an obstacle to trade, and as  many of  our trading partners sought to protect their domestic markets by erecting  non-tariff barriers, the scope of trade negotiations broadened.  The Ford  Administration and Congress created fast track to accommodate this  broader  trade agenda.  It was first engaged in the Trade Act of 1974 to deal with  the  Tokyo Round negotiations called for in the General Agreement on Trade and  Tariffs (GATT).  Fast track procedures for approving trade agreements  have been  renewed by Congress in 1979, 1984, 1988, 1991 and most recently in 1993.   As a  result, presidents have had fast track negotiating authority continuously  from  January 1975 until April 1994, with a brief hiatus for eight months in 1988.

 

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Campaign for America's Future          /          By Dave Johnson

Multinationals Are Plotting to Steamroll What's Left of Our Democracy to Make Huge Profits

         

We've got to stop the Trans-Pacific Partnership that's being drawn up in Washington before it becomes law.

     

 
 
 
         
 

The giant multinationals are pushing a trade deal that will literally let them bypass our laws. This deal is called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and it is coming at us in the next few months. The corporations are trying to switch this gravy-train onto the “Fast Track.” For them this deal is the light at the end of the tunnel of democracy and self-government that has been trying to reign them in. We need to get this runaway train back on the rails or We thePeople will be begging for scraps thrown from the caboose. Call your Senators and Representative  today and let them know that people are paying attention and oppose “Fast Track trade authority.”

Fast Track

President Obama’s US Trade Representative (USTR) and lobbyists for the giant multinationals are asking Congress to yield its  Constitutionally-mandated obligation to carefully review and amend the upcoming Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement. They want Congress to give the administration “Fast Track” “trade-promotion” authority (TPA) so they can get the deal done ASAP. ASAP in this case means literally in the next few months.

Politico has the story inside their story  USTR headed to Japan to attack auto trade barriers,

[The US trade representative's] trip comes as the Obama administration hustles to make a major trade deal with Japan and 10 other Pacific Rim countries happen by the end of this year.

… The Obama administration needs Congress to approve “fast-track” authority guaranteeing that TPP would get a vote without amendments …. The administration has a short window of opportunity before campaigning revs up for the 2014 election, making it a near-impossible environment to get such a massive trade deal done.

Giant Multinational Corporations Hope To Push This Through

If TPP passes  it will override American law. Again: we will not be able to pass laws that reign in the corporations. We will not be able to protect our jobs and wages because, as we have seen, companies can just close a factory and move your job to a country that pays very little, doesn’t protect the environment, and doesn’t let working people do anything about it. Of course the giant companies want these agreements — they let them tell us that if we ask for decent wages or benefits they will fire us and move our job out of the country.

Right now because of trade agreements already in effect we are not allowed to make laws  even putting information like “dolphin safe” on tuna can labelsEl Salvador is being sued by a Canadian mining company for  trying to require environmental permits, because of a similar trade agreement. This is what these trade agreements mean to our ability to reign in the giant corporations.

The giant, multinational corporations and their business groups are hopeful that they can push this through. The Financial Times explains, in  Obama’s ‘fast-track’ trade push faces congressional delays,

Corporate lobbyists, who have been pushing for a quick and uncontroversial approval of TPA  [Fast Track], say they are still confident the talks will be successful.

“We are seeing signs of good support and momentum for TPA legislation in Congress and from the administration,” said David Thomas, vice-president for trade policy at the Business Roundtable, representing big blue-chip companies.

They Will Push It Through Like The Iraq War Was Pushed Through

So here is what is coming —  soon. Lobbyists for the giant multinationals have been working behind the scenes to slip Fast Track through their friends in Congress. They will argue that the usual process Congress holding hearings, getting everyone’s viewpoint and hearing everyone’s concerns, then amending as needed and carefully considering the bill before a vote (also known as “representative democracy&rdquo will just get in the way of getting this done. They will want as much of this done behind the scenes because regular people will naturally be upset about our Congress handing over their authority like this. 

If the multinationals get Fast Track pushed through there will still be a vote in Congress, but it will be rushed. That vote will occur after the corporate machine has cranked up a full-scale, mega-million-dollar PR push. It will become “conventional wisdom” among all of the “Serious People” that free-trade agreement “create jobs.” People worried about the agreement’s effect on jobs and wages, etc. will be marginalized, called luddites and dirty hippies who are “against progress” and are “killing jobs” and all the things working people have been called as other “free trade” agreements have been pushed through.

But these stakeholders have turned out to be right about these free trade agreements. Look at the results of past trade agreements — massive job loss, stagnant and falling wages, entire regions (think Detroit, Cleveland, Flint, etc.) devastated and look at the resulting inequality with the 1% now receiving all of the gains from the economy! (Last Year’s Korea-US free trade agreement  has already cost 40,000 jobs and increased our trade deficit by $5.8 billion.)

From what we know about TPP (it is still secret, even though they want it passed within months) it looks to be more of the same.

Rigged Negotiating Process

The process for negotiating TPP has been rigged from the start. It has been negotiated in secret by corporate-interest with other stakeholders excluded. (Government employees involved move to high-paying corporate positions once the agreement is completed.) More than 600 representatives of corporate-interest groups have been “advising” while representatives of labor, human rights, civil justice, consumer, environmental and other stakeholder groups have been kept away from the negotiating table. Congress has also been kept out and has not yet seen the agreement. This is a rigged process that is designed to reach a conclusion  in the interests of the giant corporations and  not taking into account the interest of environmental, labor, human rights and other stakeholders who will be affected by the results.

Call Your Senators And Representative!

Call your member of Congress and both of your Senators and tell them not to yield Congress’ authority to “Fast Track.” Do this today.

We can not tolerate Fast Track after the way this agreement has been negotiated. Don’t let Congress put itself in the position of no see, no amend, no time to think it through, all while a huge corporate PR campaign is underway. With Fast Track Congress will not be able to make changes and will have no time to think about the consequences.

Corporations are supposed to be subject to the laws that We, the People make. The current trade-agreement process is the other way around. It sets up a situation where democracy is a competitive disadvantage, because things like good wages and environmental laws are a “cost.” It sets up a process of negotiations between corporate interests that sits above our laws, limiting what we can do about it. These trade agreements get democracy out of the way. “Fast Track” gets democracy out of the way so they can ram these agreements through. Don’t let them get away with this.

 

 

 

  Through a lot of research yesterday....I think I understand.  However, the jury is still out on whether or not I agree with the expected consensus.  The way it sounds to me or how the scare tactic is....if we don't block this our laws in the way they we live our lives will be jeopardized.  That's a whole lot considering other things we have to take in account. So I'ma gonna process more info until I come to a conclusion regarding this.  All too often a sudden so-call leak always has Americans up in a roar before they even know the jest of it.  This type of propaganda is typical for distraction.  And we have this shutdown and all.  And since this isn't new news per se.  It's been around a long time now...,.I'm gonna just take it all in for a moment.  And then respond.  Cuz somethin' is NOT smelling too right.  But! 

Originally Posted by Kocolicious:

  Through a lot of research yesterday....I think I understand.  However, the jury is still out on whether or not I agree with the expected consensus.  The way it sounds to me or how the scare tactic is....if we don't block this our laws in the way they we live our lives will be jeopardized.  That's a whole lot considering other things we have to take in account. So I'ma gonna process more info until I come to a conclusion regarding this.  All too often a sudden so-call leak always has Americans up in a roar before they even know the jest of it.  This type of propaganda is typical for distraction.  And we have this shutdown and all.  And since this isn't new news per se.  It's been around a long time now...,.I'm gonna just take it all in for a moment.  And then respond.  Cuz somethin' is NOT smelling too right.  But! 


From the information I'm reading like what's posted above, and considering that it is progressives that are out there sounding the alarm against TPP, and specifically, since right-wing republicans are not trying to hang President Obama with his endorsement/push for TPP, [which that alone, is scary enough], I think that I am leaning toward President Obama being about to sign away America's remaining workforce and protections of what little check and balances we have left.

 

I'm still pondering. 

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