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I voted "Yes... it's just an excuse to have a party". That's my view and I agree with that statement "Here's celebrating 200 years of white man's independence!"

America's "freedom" is largely freedom from the rule of another superpower and the freedom to replace Britain as the world colonial power. That's what much of our "freedom" is these days. And of course the "freedom" for us to go along with it and have to pay for it out of our pockets.

I'll do backflips for joy the day "Freedom" truly means something in America. The day it truly means what it implies along with it: Responsibility, Justice, Equality, and Democracy.

"Freedom without equality or democracy is an illusion. It is but freedom for those on top to abuse those beneath." --Me
I voted yes ... party, too! Smile

I use it as a day to bring my family together (everybody's off work) feed them real good, play with the neices and nephews.

I "celebrate" family. The words "Independence" and "America" together give me the shivers. ek And whatever "freedom" I might enjoy, it's not like America freely gave it to me ... it had to be taken by those before for me with America kicking and screaming all the way to the Supreme Court before unleashing it! nono

And (as usual) the Native Americans have it right! tfro
The party option is the closest to how I view it. But it's not accurate to either say that I do celebrate the 4th, because I don't. I do, however, "observe" it via family gatherings (reunions) that happen on the 4th.

Seems to me, only complete abstinence and resistance to it would constitute not "celebrating" it. I don't actually "party" though.

Also, the customary things (read: fireworks) may mean that I have "celebrated" but I don't fly no flags.
I don't celebrate the 4th of July because I feel it would be hypocrital for me to do so. I can have people over and BBQ any day and have a great party.

As we know, our ancestors were still slaves in this country on the original independence day, so what do we have to celebrate? Celebrating the liberation of a culture so brutal that they raped, mutilated, and bred my ancestors as though they were chattle does not sound logical to me, nor do I think I am honoring their strength, courage, and determinaition that we would one day be liberated ourselves. I wonder how many Sisters were raped and Brothers beaten and/or mutilated because of the festive atmosphere that was in the air on the first Independence Day.

I observe Juneteenth as our liberation. I really don't understand the logic of celebrating an event that made our oppressors more powerfull because they no longer had any one to answer to How many non-Blacks observe the day of our liberation? I don't know the answer, but I believe ghe figjure would be quite low.

I don't understand the reason or logic behind African Americans celebrating the liberation of our oppressors. Could someone break it down for me please? Thanks.
I'll do backflips for joy the day "Freedom" truly means something in America. The day it truly means what it implies along with it: Responsibility, Justice, Equality, and Democracy.---Empty Purnata

I voted the 'party' option as well.

I was going to say 'it is sort of like the thing with the flag', but it isn't.

With the flag, allegiance resonates with me. With the '4th', nothing about it resonates with me.

I can see the (voluntary though unappreciated) investment of my father in the flag.

I fully recognize the negatives represented in the flag as well.

While that saddens me, I prefer to focus on the legacy of my parents rather than deny that expression of hope and expectation.

Even with that perspective, I was never able to fly the flag until I matured enough to create a flag expressed my uniqueness as an American, an American of unknown African ancestry.

I now fly the flag, but only in the presence of our flag.

The '4th' reminds me of the concious decision of the colonials was to insistently not sustain, but to embrace slavery.

Slavery was what made a successful revolution viable.

That is not a reason for celebration.


Jim Chester

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